OK...Not quite right according to Andy "never missed a meal" Wood ?
The Lord of lords is the living God and so to treat Him as Lord is mandatory.
Agreed. Wonder how many are willing right now to give up their worldly possessions and temporary wealth to follow Chris Who, as He prophesied, would have to be here now.Luke 18 18Then a certain ruler asked Him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
19“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone. 20You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not bear false witness, honor your father and mother.’ ”
21“All these have I kept from my youth,” he said.
22On hearing this, Jesus told him, “You still lack one thing: Sell everything you own and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.”
No, the Gentiles (foreigners) are those who are not ISRAELITES.The gentiles are those who are not jews.
The British ARE Israelites, and the British kings and queens ARE descended from the line of David, through Judah, and can trace their lineage back from England through Scotland and Ireland, back to Jerusalem.Ge.Allenby and the brits are not jews and so are gentiles.
Exactly. 1260 years to the day before the British Israelites liberated Jerusalem from the Turkish Edomite Muslims is 657 AD, when the Muslims moved into Jerusalem and began construction of their mosque on the Temple Mount.It's interesting to note that 1260 years is about the time span of muslim rule in Jerusalem.
No, it is a historical fact.That is propaganda.
Jesus told His Disciples that when they saw the "Fig-Tree" put forth new shoots/leaves in the LAND of Israel (1948) that it would mark His Return. Jesus did NOT say the people Israel (the Israelites) would return. That's why the fake Jews call themselves "Israelis". They know they are not true Israelites.Jews are back just as foretold by Jesus.
Perhaps the irony is it was the AshkeNAZIS (counterfeit Jews) that fought under Hitler in WW2, murdering both their own and Christians, but more of the latter than the former.Now one day after jewish independence day the arab armies attacked the newborn state and lost. The hope of the world was that the arabs would be successful and so finalise the final solution begun by Hitler and the nazis... but Isarel was still standing. A handful of Holocaust survivors beat the arab armies... again and again and again....
It is Jesus Christ who paid the price for our sins who has the authority and power to forgive sins.OK...
In the interests of reasoned discussion, is there a Christian minister you find yourself in unity with who expresses your position in such a way others can engage with? Would you put yourself in John McArthurs camp on the “Lordship Salvation” question?
No, the Gentiles (foreigners) are those who are not ISRAELITES.
I love those verses, but the one thing they never acknowledged is, a born again believer receives the Holy Spirit that he himself experiences. That is a permanent possession. no doubt that we struggle with the flesh, Paul makes that clear in Romans Chapter 7, but He gives the glories answer of those born of the Holy Spirit. There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, Romans Chapter 8. Those who add works plus Jesus Christ have never meet the Lord personally. I know I am secure, but I never feel worthy.
Very well put Sir. I believe it's essentially boiled down to this. Most people need to "feel worthy" to be accounted righteously. Thus adding themself into the works of the Holy Spirit. If they want to work for their salvation, the Holy Spirit have no choice but respect their free will and they will be judge according to their works which will be hopelessness. I'm the same way as you, met the Lord personally and never feel worthy to be saved. Praised the Lord for His MercyThose who add works plus Jesus Christ have never meet the Lord personally. I know I am secure, but I never feel worthy.
Amen.Very well put Sir. I believe it's essentially boiled down to this. Most people need to "feel worthy" to be accounted righteously. Thus adding themself into the works of the Holy Spirit. If they want to work for their salvation, the Holy Spirit have no choice but respect their free will and they will be judge according to their works which will be hopelessness. I'm the same way as you, met the Lord personally and never feel worthy to be saved. Praised the Lord for His Mercy
You've got to understand the correlation between grace and works. One doesn't cancel out the other. We are saved by grace but that doesn't mean we break the law (Romans 6:1-2). When we have salvation, we love God. We are supposed to love Him with all our hearts, minds and souls. So when we love God like that we are obedient to Him.I love those verses, but the one thing they never acknowledged is, a born again believer receives the Holy Spirit that he himself experiences. That is a permanent possession. no doubt that we struggle with the flesh, Paul makes that clear in Romans Chapter 7, but He gives the glories answer of those born of the Holy Spirit. There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, Romans Chapter 8. Those who add works plus Jesus Christ have never meet the Lord personally. I know I am secure, but I never feel worthy.
This article is basically preaching osas. I will put parts of the article in quotes.Works And Fruits: Untangling The Gospel From Everything Else
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It is increasingly hard to have a conversation about the good works of the believer, because in these last days the enemy has twisted works and fruits all up in the message of the cross. More often than not, the sound preaching of the true gospel is replaced by the cacophony of false gospel teaching and doctrines of demons who teach that works are involved in the salvation process, or that works are guaranteed evidence someone is truly saved. This is error.
A great article:-
Scripture is clear that we are saved unto good works, just not by them. But good works are important and commanded for the believer, so how do we encourage one another unto good works in a culture filled with popular teachers and preachers who have presented a false, sneaky, works-ridden gospel...www.unsealed.org
This is not biblical. Once we are born again we still have free will. Just because we were once saved doesn’t mean we can’t turn from God later, in the same way that a couple who once loved each other enough to marry later made choices that led to divorce. Jesus told the parable of the sower in which He compared a man sowing seed to the effect that God’s Word has on our hearts. He said, “But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles” (Matthew 13:20-21). People can “fall away” from God through choice, pressure, carelessness etc. Though God draws us to Himself and will do everything He can to keep us close to Him, He won’t force us to stay. But those who do stay close to God live happier, more confident lives than those who don’t.After you’ve been born again, your salvation is assured because, remember, you have become a child of God that cannot sin. You have become the righteousness of God. (2 Cor. 5:21) However, your flesh was not born again. Your flesh still sins. Jesus did not save your flesh and your flesh will not inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Cor. 15:50) Your flesh does not have eternal life, but YOU do. This is why your flesh will die or be changed in the twinkling of an eye. Corruption will put on incorruption, mortality will put on immortality, and you’ll get a glorified body to go with the new nature that is born of the Spirit. (1 Cor. 15:50-58)
Until that happens, you need to consider yourself dead to sin, because you are a born again child of God walking around in a carcass that is unprofitable and has no good thing in it.
If we change our minds and go back to a life of sin which can happen as the above scripture says, then our eternal destination changes unless we repent our sin and go back to submitting and obeying God. Our names can be taken out of the book of life as I posted in the previous post. Being born again is definitely not a one time event, not according to God's Word.(John 6:63, Rom. 6:10-12, Rom. 7:18)
What happens AFTER you’re born again determines many things, both earthly and heavenly, but has no bearing on your eternal destination. But to avoid error, you must understand the distinction between being born and living out your life. This seems like stating the obvious, I know, but there are many teaching a false gospel message that tells otherwise. Being born is a one-time event. Living your life is a lifelong event that can only happen AFTER you are born. And you cannot do anything to help yourself be “more born.” You cannot become “more saved.” You being born again is “not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” (John 1:13)
How can any Christian say this when its the direct opposite of what the Bible teaches? How can anyone have eternal life while wilfully sinning? While breaking God's commandments? If Sin dwells in your flesh, it is you!So after you’re born again, you can take any questions or doubts about your salvation and eternal security off the table because 1) your flesh is the part that sins (1 John 1:8-10) and Jesus didn’t die for your flesh, but 2) He did die for you and once you’re a born again child of God, you cannot sin, (1 John 3:9, NKJV) which means you cannot die. Sin dwells in your flesh, but this is not YOU. (Rom. 7:17-20) His seed remains in you (1 John 3:9, NKJV) and He is not going to dig His seed back out of you. You have passed from death to life. (John 5:24) You are IN CHRIST. (Col. 3:2-4) You can KNOW that you have eternal life (1 John 5:10-13) and can move on into actually living an eternally-secure-forever life.
Do good works prove that someone has truly been born again?
When God’s Spirit comes into a person’s life then it inevitably produces the fruit of a good character. Their lives will shift in the direction of “love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control” (Galatians 5:22-23). When we are saved we love Christ and want to do His will. He said, "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love" (John 15:10). It starts from the heart that Christ sits in then we see the works outwardly. No one who is saved can have faith and not works. You have to have both unless they die immediately after they were saved like the thief on the cross.No. (2 Cor. 11:14-15, Matt. 7:21-23)
Can someone who professes faith in Christ’s death and resurrection not have visible “fruit,” and yet be truly saved? Yes, because fruit is not a requirement or guarantee of salvation. (Eph. 2:8-9, Titus 3:5) Eternal life is a guarantee of salvation. Fruit happens when a believer abides in the vine, keeps His commandments and becomes a disciple. (John 15:1-17) Sadly, not everyone does this.
Can a saved person with a growing relationship with God not have fruit? If a Christian is not growing in Christ they are in spiritual decline. When we first come to Christ we are new born again Christians. But like babies, we must grow. “But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ” (2 Peter 3:18). Peter says we grow in grace and knowledge.
Aren’t we supposed to look for the fruits in someone’s life to know if they are really saved?
Is this the only scripture that talks about fruits in people's lives? Paul talks about the fruits of the spirit and I posted this scripture above. That does not refer to false prophets or doctrine. "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law" (Galatians 5:22-23). When our lives are transformed by God we are obedient to Him. We obey His commandments naturally with no problem and we bear the fruit of the Spirit. That is works.
Can an unsaved person be loving, faithful, and kind, and exhibit many good fruits?
True. Unsaved people can do good works but what is the difference between their good works and those of a saved person? Well for one, they don't have faith. The Bible tells us we can't please God without faith. Secondly their works are not the fruit of the Spirit. We all have the capacity to do good whether we are saved or not, but are we doing good works because we love God? Are these works the fruit of the Spirit? If we do works from any other motive, its unacceptable.Yes. Many philanthropists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, activists, and Mother Teresa types abound in more good works than some Christians. My thought is that many of them are trying to justify themselves (prove their goodness without trusting the righteousness of Christ) and thus abound in good deeds.
Can a saved person fail at all of that?
How can a saved person fail at having good fruit? Salvation is a gift of God but we do good because we are saved. We cannot fail and we will have the proof of God's power working in us. We will have the fruit of the Spirit. God's plan for those who are saved and love Him is clear, “For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them” (Ephesians 2:10).Yes.
Now that we are born again, should we have good works? Should we walk in holiness? Should we purify ourselves and, with the help of the Holy Spirit who indwells us, walk in the Spirit, deny the flesh, and forsake sin?
YES and YES and YES x infinity! (2 Cor. 5:14-15, Rom. 12:1-2, 1 Cor. 6:12-20, 1 John 3:2-4)
True, we have to choose to obey and submit to Him because of our free will.
This is not from the Word of God. Believing is not enough. James 2:19 says, "You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!" Believing is important but we have to have more or we are not any different to the demons are we? Peter sums up the process of growing to spiritual maturity in 2 Peter 1:3-11.The only command that affects our salvation is to believe the gospel.
Agree but its important to understand that works and fruits of the Spirit are the same thing and when we are saved and grow in Christ they are the outer signs of our faith.
Why not quote all the surrounding verses??? Clearly you are blind to the truth and cannot understand scripture in it full context. Jesus will say "depart from me" to those who bring works to Him thinking that's what going to save them. And OBVIOUSLY the WILL of the Father is NOT prophesied/cast out devils/wonderful works in his name. So I wonder what exactly is the WILL OF THE FATHER? Hmmm...Many of then will be shocked when Jesus says to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!" Matthew 7:23.
So now I'm not quoting all scripture but its okay for you to completely ignore all scripture that makes it clear osas is not biblical?Why not quote all the surrounding verses??? Clearly you are blind to the truth and cannot understand scripture in it full context. Jesus will say "depart from me" to those who bring works to Him thinking that's what going to save them. And OBVIOUSLY the WILL of the Father is NOT prophesied/cast out devils/wonderful works in his name. So I wonder what exactly is the WILL OF THE FATHER? Hmmm...
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? (WORKS) and in thy name have cast out devils? (WORKS) and in thy name done many (WONDERFUL WORKS?) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Matthew 7:21-23 KJVA
This is not about me. Its not a contest on whose a better Christian either. This is about the truth of God's Word. As Christians we have to preach the truth of God's Word no matter what. The truth is not popular and is rejected by most Christians too. We are not supposed to mix truth and error.Since you are preaching work base salvation. Let me ask how many soul have you brought to the Lord? Have you done enough to enter the gate of heaven? Do you personally believe you can lose your salvation in the future? yes YOU.
Yes. David's sins were wilful. He planned his sins. He planned to have Bathsheba as his wife and in order to do that, he had her husband killed. And he did not repent until the prophet Nathan pointed out his sin. If David had died without repenting, he would not have been saved. When David understood the gravity of his sin, he had enough grief and guilt to last a lifetime. His sorrow led him to write Psalms 51 in which he pleads for a clean heart and the restoration of his relationship with God.Always meant to ask you this about King David's salvation progress. Did he got saved earlier in him life, and then lost it when he commit adultery/murder, and then got it back after he repented?