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  1. Golden Age

    Britons Rage Over Robinson Arrest As Mass Protests Break Out Worldwide

    @Eshu: "A single contempt of court conviction is enough to warrant jail time under U.K. law. This was his charge, and why he was arrested and jailed. Legally, his prior suspended sentence/court order has nothing to do with whether it is a jailable offense to document that a trial is taking...
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    They Killed Christ Not

    @Red Sky at Morning "If i were to cross the Atlantic and I was on board a cruise liner, I could, in my imagination, spot some great folk who also wanted to go to America in an inflatable rowing boat. I would be genuinely torn because on the one hand, I would have so much more in common with...
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    Britons Rage Over Robinson Arrest As Mass Protests Break Out Worldwide

    @Eshu I've noticed something else about your post that is both disturbing and demagogic. In addition to misstating the law and confusing different legal jurisdictions, you seem to be questioning the right of UK courts to issue Contempt of Court verdicts in cases where you don't know the...
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    Britons Rage Over Robinson Arrest As Mass Protests Break Out Worldwide

    @Eshu: "I wasn't questioning the legality of Robinson's arrest, just your description of the circumstances. Words have specific meanings, and thanks for conceding the point I was making" You're confusing yourself and potentially misleading others on these forums. I wrote that "Tommy was...
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    Britons Rage Over Robinson Arrest As Mass Protests Break Out Worldwide

    @Eshu: "You specifically said his court order, as in Robinson's. You very clearly were referring to the existing [suspended] sentence of his original contempt of court conviction rather than the gag order placed on the trial that Robinson was reporting on. This new charge/conviction had little...
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    Britons Rage Over Robinson Arrest As Mass Protests Break Out Worldwide

    @The Zone: "Yeah, you caused me to rethink some things instead of taking it at face value. If you are from the UK, how would you describe the current state of England? It comes off better from those who actually live there" Its a sprawling and nebulous question. What would you like to...
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    Britons Rage Over Robinson Arrest As Mass Protests Break Out Worldwide

    @Eshu: "Incorrect. He was arrested and jailed for the same reason he was initially arrested: Contempt of court. That he broke the terms of his suspended sentence has little bearing on whether it is against the law for journalists to document a public trial, and in the UK, this can be against...
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    They Killed Christ Not

    @Forever Light The Arabic language is very important in understanding the narrative/s in the Quran. There is no way that 'Isa' can be transliterated as Jesus or Christ. The narratives themselves differ regarding the birth and death of Jesus (Bible) and Isa (Quran). Therefore, to assume...
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    They Killed Christ Not

    @Forever Light It may not be sensible for Christians to be using Islamic texts to validate the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Christ. My understanding is that the character of 'Isa Ibn Maryam' can't be transliterated as Christ, (or Jesus for that matter). The Islamic texts also refer to the...
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    They Killed Christ Not

    @Red Sky at Morning I'm more inclined to accept that man sins because he is not perfect, which, is the traditional position of most practicing Jews. To not sin would render humanity perfect and vitiate free will. For that reason, I find the idea of original sin not only at odds with the Mosaic...
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    They Killed Christ Not

    @Forever Light Original sin was developed by St Augustine of Hippo (13 November 354 – 28 August 430) and woven into the 'backstory' of Christ. The First Church in Jerusalem (of the apostles of of Christ) never taught this doctrine as it would have been utterly alien to what they may have...
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    They Killed Christ Not

    @TokiEl: "Lol somebody been conversing with the devil ?" Kindly play the ball and stop kicking my shins please, T'El ... !?
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    They Killed Christ Not

    @Forever Light The world is, indeed, an imperfect place. Nevertheless, it is Christian doctrine to acknowledge 'the father' as fully God and 'the son' as fully man but (somehow) they are fully fused into one being!? So why would Christ be saying things like this: John 20:17 Jesus saith unto...
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    They Killed Christ Not

    @Forever Light: ".. it is IMPOSSIBLE for humans to kill Christ (the Spirit Being/Soul, that is also known as "The Word" of God" I accept the premise of what you're saying. However, that premise applies to every human being, i.e. we are all composed of a spirit/soul (transcendent form) and of...
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    Is there a difference between the way Jews and Christians understand "Zionism"?

    @elsbet: "Astrologers---> Sabian symbols." Yes and through Pico De Mirandola, Marsilio Ficino, Giordano Bruno, Francis Bacon and Isaac Newton they influenced the Renaissance and laid the foundations of the modern world.
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    The Shriners....

    @Kais_1: "why else would they use the word islam? if islam really is a moon cult...then maybe that's why!" The Rev Jim Jones of the 'Peoples Temple' used an interpretation of Christianity that resulted in the Jonestown Massacre. Yet, I'm sure you'll agree that his views weren't reflective of...
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    Libertarian becomes first openly p***phile candidate

    Shouldn't the advocates of 'free speech' be championing the cause of these libertarians !? Freedom isn't always pretty by extolling traditional conservative family values. Sometimes, it comes in a very ugly form. But to be intellectually consistent, speech and lifestyles should be free for...
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    Is there a difference between the way Jews and Christians understand "Zionism"?

    @Thunderian: "I heard -- I think from Missler -- that the tradition is that the magi were part of an order that had been trained by Daniel. They weren't wizards. They were students of the word of God. That's how they knew the prophecies. Moses prophesied in Numbers 24, there shall come a...
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    Christian community

    @SkepticCat I admire anyone that is prepared to radically alter their way of life and go to live in other parts of the world. Whether that is motivated by religious convictions or otherwise. But if the motivation of your wanderlust is the desire to 'save souls', why not start with where...
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    Multiculturalism

    @Violette Much depends on how you define 'multiculturalism'. If you're using the word as an adjective to describe the variety of ethnicities and religions in a place like London, it makes sense. However, if you mean the presence of a myriad of cultures competing for influence in British...
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