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phipps
Paul wrote, "And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption" (Ephesians 4:30). The scriptures were inspired by the Holy Spirit. "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost" (2 Peter 1:21).
Todd
Todd
Peter was talking about propehcy of the Old Testemant. We do not need anything other than what Christ taught. Peter, James and John never spoke contrary to or added to what Jesus taught them. You can claim that Paul did not preach anything different than Paul, but anyone with any common sense who actually lines up Paul's teaching next to Jesus' teaching can see that is not so.
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phipps
So Peter, James and John were used and inspired by the Holy spirit but not Paul? Do you see how you pick and choose what you want about God? You don't believe Jesus is God either even though the Bible is clear on that subject. Peter, James and John attest to that in their writings. If God chose Paul who are you to question His decision? You don't believe the whole Bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit either.
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phipps
You pick and choose what suits you and discard the rest of the Bible that doesn't. You believe what Jesus said about the Holy Spirit but can a created being send the Holy spirit who is God to come in His stead after He's gone back to heaven? Really who is lacking common sense between the two of us here? You discard the word of God that doesn't suit your beliefs instead of praying for understanding.
Todd
Todd
Peter, James and John did not change or add to what Jesus taught. I do not take anything that Peter, James or John wrote if it contradicts what Jesus taught. The only picking and choosing I do is to maintain consistentcy with what God spoke through the prophets of the OT and Jesus . To do that I must reject much of what Paul taught. Paul did write some things that were compatible with Jesus but much of it didn't.
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phipps
God does not make mistakes. He does not contradict Himself and His word is proof of that unless one doesn't understand it. Paul was a man who persecuted Christians and on the Damascus road He met Christ who changed his heart. He chose Paul for a special work and the Bible and Paul's writings tell us about them. You don't believe this as written in the Bible, you don't believe God either.
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phipps
Paul did not change what Jesus taught or contradict Him. "The only picking and choosing I do is to maintain consistentcy with what God spoke through the prophets of the OT and Jesus." The Old testament prophesied Christ and some of the prophecies said He was God, Jesus said He was God too as did the apostles, and you reject that too. Its about what suits your doctrine. God saying it doesn't make a difference to you.
Todd
Todd
I believe what God said through his prophets alone! An Apostle is not the same thing as a prophet. An apostle is a sent one and only repeats what the prophet said. Aaron is an old testemant example of an Aposle. He only repeated what the propeht Moses said. Paul did not simply repeat what Jesus said. This proves that the "Jesus" that Paul claimed spoke to him was not the same Jesus that came in the flesh.
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phipps
I'm going to bed now. I pray that you ask God for understanding about Jesus being God and of Paul's writings. You did not answered my question about doubting God. You know you do by saying what you do against Paul. You either accept God's choices and words or you don't. There is no middle ground where you decide what you want. Goodnight and God bless.
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phipps
It is about God and what He asks of us, not what we believe through our own understanding. Did Jesus ever say the prophets are more important than the apostles? The Old and New Testaments are just as important as each other. What the writers of the New Testament wrote is just as import as the Old Testament. Remember Jesus never wrote a word in the New Testament. God chose the apostles to preach the gospel worldwide.
Todd
Todd
Yes, Jesus did says the prophets were more important than the apostles. Jesus never once said the Apostles would receive new revelation. He only stated that they would be reminded by the Holy Spirit of what he himself said in the flesh. Jesus gave many warings of who to believe and listen to. Unfortunately Paul fits many of the warnings Jesus gave.
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phipps
Either you believe the New Testament writers who wrote about Christ or you don't. Of course some of them witnessed a lot of the things they wrote about but others experienced Christ in different ways. Paul spoke to Him. What matters is that through them we learn about Christ. Revelation is all about Jesus and is just as important as the prophecies in the OT especially for us living in the last days.
Todd
Todd
Who are you to tell me what I believe or don't? There is a whole world of Christians who believe what Christ spoke and don't believe everything Paul wrote. Why did Jesus make warnings not to believe everyone who claimed to be his? Every word of God is confirmed out of the mouth of two or three witnesses. I see a lot in Paul's writing not confirmed anywhere else in the Bible.
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phipps
Where does Jesus say the prophets were more important than the apostles? Can you prove it through scripture please? Some apostles were prophets too. Paul was a prophet and there was John the Revelator. You are dead wrong about Paul and therefore wrong about God who chose him. One of the ways the Holy Spirit works is through people. He uses them for God's purpose which is to preach the gospel worldwide.
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phipps
There is no middle ground in the Bible. You decided that Paul's writings are against Christ's teachings. You decided that Jesus isn't God contrary to what the Bible says. It doesn't matter what other Christians believe or think. Its what God's word says (all of it) which you are clearly against. Paul also warned about people lying just like Jesus did. The apostles did not lie! So yeah you doubt God and don't believe.
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