Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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seriously, why are you angry? I didn't want to start an argument, I am just saying my opinion, yes I don't believe they are friend, more like staged to me, take it easy.
I’m not angry. You can believe they aren’t friends but you still have to acknowledge that the two of them were known to have connections with one another. All I am saying is that with accusations like this, it all needs to be 100% accurate. Your statements could confuse people if they didn’t know any better and this is already a topic that not many people will believe in, so you should make sure all the information is accurate.

It’s not because I’m angry but because the entire truth needs to be discussed.
 
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I want to apologize for me blowing my lid at the accusations of Nayeon being a "tranny". It hit a nerve for many reasons (I am not a fan of calling transgendered people trannies, for one), but especially so because I've seen many pieces of "evidence" that someone is trans and it always, always boils down to "this isn't what a REAL woman looks like", which is incredibly insulting bc their idea of what a real woman looks like is so far from the truth it's laughable. And it hits home with me, because a lot of these supposed giveaways are things that I have. I am a "cis" woman, I don't have excess testosterone, my hormones are all normal, but I have a prominent adam's apple, sort of wide shoulders, the voice of a 12 year old boy, bony hands, not much going on in the boob region, I'm not tall but I am above average in height for girls in my country, and I'm 3/4 Thai. I say that because a lot of Thai girls, to be perfectly honest, look manly/like feminine men in drag. The makeup trends popular in Thailand don't help it either, it's very caked on. We are not men, these are just the faces our genetics have given us. I was bullied a lot for that in my teen years.
I have nothing to do with the whole discussion, I just want to say that it's okay to disagree with one's opinion but we have to be careful with the word choice. I was in an argument with you too, like a couple of pages ago, and there you said you're 1/2 Korean, here you said you're 3/4 Thai, Idk but the math just doesn't add up. It doesn't matter anyway. Just don't let anything triggers you personally.

I said that it's very difficult to understand for sure what Kpop groups are under elite control because of the concept of idols.
I have doubts, i have nothing certain, i don't see a triangle and think "illuminati confirmed", i do my research, i don't think they are satanist because Jin winked once because of his contact lens.
The Blood Sweat&Tears music video is as far as i know the ONLY video they have that is considered in here with some symbolism but the concept of the song and MV is good vs evil , and it's a quite popular theme, i don't know why you all believe only a "elite puppet" could use that theme.
The real question is do you all believe all Kpop is into accult?
The fact that there is occult and cospirocy don't meant they are all into it.
I think it's interesting to point out the "symbolism" but also what it would make them probably not into the elite.
Because if it's enough a butterfly tshirt to call them satanist or a wink or a V sign then everyone is.
I understand it's more fun for same people to "throw stones" at popular groups and to judge with moral high , but this doesn't mean that the baseless claims are true.
Hi Mintea, it's not just BST that gives away the occult symbolism, and even if it's really just BST, that doesn't eliminate BTS' involvement in the whole occult stuff. When we analyze this kind of thing, it's not wise to point our fingers at everyone, but it's not wise either to eliminate one of them just because we think they're not involved, especially if they're part of the mainstream Kpop. We have to see it with an open mind. The fact that you say it's just another popular theme, shows that this kind of stuff has been accepted by the general public. Please take into consideration that it's indeed the elite's goal to normalize and popularize all the occult symbolism so it will be accepted by us. I'm not biased towards anyone on this matter, I'm not into male groups and it's been so long since I actually liked anyone from the Kpop scene.

To be honest, I feel like we are being ridiculed by the elites right now. Even the all-seeing-eye symbol is being treated as "just a trend", just like how they do it with the Belluminati commercial, and every "awaken" person is being called "a man in the tin foil hat" or a conspiracy freak. They are not afraid that we're uncovering their secrets anymore, because they know that some will believe it and some will not. Some will be attracted and some will run away. They know we will fight because of this, and we will never uncover the real secrets anyway because they're hiding them so well. The so-called truth that we see and we think we know now is just the tip of an iceberg.

All we can do is assume, it's true. However, this kind of assumption isn't completely baseless when we actually try to match it with all the clues they have given us. Some of the earliest posts about BTS here contained analyses based on credible sources (the most credible sources would be the elite's own literature and media). A lot of symbols don't just show up because they're trends, I know saying that the V or peace sign is a part of the occult symbolism and it always means that way sounds a bit paranoid or far-fetched, but that doesn't take away the truth that it is indeed a part of the occult symbolism.

Does the fact that Kim Jong Un likes to hide his one hand beneath his coat mean his hand always feel cold? Yeah probably when we see it through the normal/general public lenses but here we are seeing it from another perspective, so we can conclude that he probably is part of Freemason. Wait, doesn't Freemasonry only exist in liberalist countries (and not communist)? Sometimes we think that we know everything, but we just don't know. What you see here isn't always what you get. The purpose of this thread is to see things from different perspectives and to (sometimes) make crazy assumptions, again, that are not completely baseless.

I saw video who the uploader said the coffin looks too light, I don't know, I also wished if RanFan can came and we could ask him about faking his death, I just haven't thought of it while he was there :(
I don't think he faked his death, simply for the reason that he had no control over his own career, let alone his own life. This may sound harsh, but knowing the culture of his company, it just doesn't make sense. Otherwise, it would be a waste to throw the celebration of death (aka the Olympics) and the whole symbolism they have been throwing out lately through their female artists, not to mention the signs shown even before his death. His MV "Shinin" also showed us that he was owned by the elite and they were the one who took control of his life, even until his death.

RanFan told us that when Jh was found, he was tied up and there were 3 men involved or something like that. It's just impossible for him to flee scene and fake his death. In order to do that, he should had had the support of his company, which clearly isn't the case here. It would had been easier for him to quit being a celebrity rather than faking his own death, but then again it's hard to quit when you already knew too much and you had been targeted since a long time. It's comforting to convince ourselves that he's still alive somewhere, but I've read too many theories about Hitler being alive somewhere in the 2000s to say that we better consider the obvious/legit clues that are already being served in front of us rather than looking for alternatives.
 
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I want to apologize for me blowing my lid at the accusations of Nayeon being a "tranny". It hit a nerve for many reasons (I am not a fan of calling transgendered people trannies, for one), but especially so because I've seen many pieces of "evidence" that someone is trans and it always, always boils down to "this isn't what a REAL woman looks like", which is incredibly insulting bc their idea of what a real woman looks like is so far from the truth it's laughable. And it hits home with me, because a lot of these supposed giveaways are things that I have. I am a "cis" woman, I don't have excess testosterone, my hormones are all normal, but I have a prominent adam's apple, sort of wide shoulders, the voice of a 12 year old boy, bony hands, not much going on in the boob region, I'm not tall but I am above average in height for girls in my country, and I'm 3/4 Thai. I say that because a lot of Thai girls, to be perfectly honest, look manly/like feminine men in drag. The makeup trends popular in Thailand don't help it either, it's very caked on. We are not men, these are just the faces our genetics have given us. I was bullied a lot for that in my teen years.
I appreciate your apology for this. I'd like to apologize as well for calling you out with a rather strong tone but I did so because I sought the best for this thread's objective of exposing the elite's evil agenda and would not want to be sidetracked by unnecessary diversion, esp in the form of conflict with other readers of the thread. I'm sorry if this issue is a triggering point for you and that you have been bullied because of your features. As pointed out by Lee in the post above mine, it is completely ok for us to disagree but we don't need to call out any names/flame someone over the disagreement.

I also agree that it is almost impossible to tell if an individual is tranny or not by simply relying on some arbitrary qualifiers like how many transvestigators present their cases. Not to mention the fact that their hypothesis, at least in the videos I've watched, begins with assuming that ALL celebs are trannies. I mean, that's just taking things too far out of reach. At this point, what we can do is only speculate. However, it is also true that transgenderism (more accurately using transgenderism towards androgyny) is part of the elite's agenda and so it should find a place for discussion in this thread.
 

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Guys, I have a question to you. Henry released a music video named "Monster" last month. As I watched it I noticed a really strange picture.image.jpg
This reminded me of a BEAST album that was released a few years ago.image.jpg
Actually I don't understand, why these half robot - half human creatures always dissolve in many pieces.
Maybe someone also noticed this symbold somewhere and has an idea what it could mean?
 

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Guys just wanted to know your opinion. What do you think about John Cena being fan of BTS? Doesn't that seem to be odd? I mean I know that he can like their music etc but it seems so weird that guy like John Cena would listen to kpop boysband.
 

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Guys just wanted to know your opinion. What do you think about John Cena being fan of BTS? Doesn't that seem to be odd? I mean I know that he can like their music etc but it seems so weird that guy like John Cena would listen to kpop boysband.
Not really he really like jhopes mixtape and thats probably his bias he could just like something without and satanic/illuminati relations you know anyway he joined the fandom:)
 

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I have nothing to do with the whole discussion, I just want to say that it's okay to disagree with one's opinion but we have to be careful with the word choice. I was in an argument with you too, like a couple of pages ago, and there you said you're 1/2 Korean, here you said you're 3/4 Thai, Idk but the math just doesn't add up. It doesn't matter anyway. Just don't let anything triggers you personally.



Hi Mintea, it's not just BST that gives away the occult symbolism, and even if it's really just BST, that doesn't eliminate BTS' involvement in the whole occult stuff. When we analyze this kind of thing, it's not wise to point our fingers at everyone, but it's not wise either to eliminate one of them just because we think they're not involved, especially if they're part of the mainstream Kpop. We have to see it with an open mind. The fact that you say it's just another popular theme, shows that this kind of stuff has been accepted by the general public. Please take into consideration that it's indeed the elite's goal to normalize and popularize all the occult symbolism so it will be accepted by us. I'm not biased towards anyone on this matter, I'm not into male groups and it's been so long since I actually liked anyone from the Kpop scene.

To be honest, I feel like we are being ridiculed by the elites right now. Even the all-seeing-eye symbol is being treated as "just a trend", just like how they do it with the Belluminati commercial, and every "awaken" person is being called "a man in the tin foil hat" or a conspiracy freak. They are not afraid that we're uncovering their secrets anymore, because they know that some will believe it and some will not. Some will be attracted and some will run away. They know we will fight because of this, and we will never uncover the real secrets anyway because they're hiding them so well. The so-called truth that we see and we think we know now is just the tip of an iceberg.

All we can do is assume, it's true. However, this kind of assumption isn't completely baseless when we actually try to match it with all the clues they have given us. Some of the earliest posts about BTS here contained analyses based on credible sources (the most credible sources would be the elite's own literature and media). A lot of symbols don't just show up because they're trends, I know saying that the V or peace sign is a part of the occult symbolism and it always means that way sounds a bit paranoid or far-fetched, but that doesn't take away the truth that it is indeed a part of the occult symbolism.

Does the fact that Kim Jong Un likes to hide his one hand beneath his coat mean his hand always feel cold? Yeah probably when we see it through the normal/general public lenses but here we are seeing it from another perspective, so we can conclude that he probably is part of Freemason. Wait, doesn't Freemasonry only exist in liberalist countries (and not communist)? Sometimes we think that we know everything, but we just don't know. What you see here isn't always what you get. The purpose of this thread is to see things from different perspectives and to (sometimes) make crazy assumptions, again, that are not completely baseless.



I don't think he faked his death, simply for the reason that he had no control over his own career, let alone his own life. This may sound harsh, but knowing the culture of his company, it just doesn't make sense. Otherwise, it would be a waste to throw the celebration of death (aka the Olympics) and the whole symbolism they have been throwing out lately through their female artists, not to mention the signs shown even before his death. His MV "Shinin" also showed us that he was owned by the elite and they were the one who took control of his life, even until his death.

RanFan told us that when Jh was found, he was tied up and there were 3 men involved or something like that. It's just impossible for him to flee scene and fake his death. In order to do that, he should had had the support of his company, which clearly isn't the case here. It would had been easier for him to quit being a celebrity rather than faking his own death, but then again it's hard to quit when you already knew too much and you had been targeted since a long time. It's comforting to convince ourselves that he's still alive somewhere, but I've read too many theories about Hitler being alive somewhere in the 2000s to say that we better consider the obvious/legit clues that are already being served in front of us rather than looking for alternatives.
First about Hitler, I watch his speech video and yeah, I must admit that he's really good at public speaking. I mean, he had this kind of aura which makes him become very influential. I feel it. Yes, I've been read some theories too about his death and well, I think we will never know what's going on actually even if these theories are true because we're not there at the first place. If it's true that he and his wife Eva Braun were died in German, do elites grasp control of it? They know.

We're all living in this kind of time and we started from knowing nothing of these. To be honest yeah, it's kind of more peaceful when I do not know all of these things but soon after I know many lies from the pit and they could twisted it many times too even if we know it as they like, I should admit that this century is dangerous yet tragic as well.
Born in end times huh? That's me.
Still, there's a hope that all craziness will be end one day. They're not gonna reign forever.

By the way lee, I translated more part from an article referring to those Korean Illuminati cards through Google translate. I see a part that says :
"Even if you know everything, you can't do anything."

Nah, we're expose them, pray and maybe so on so nope, we can still do something even though it seems useless. Just like what you said, some will believe, some will not. Well, at least there are some who will believe and still believe on this.

If we're only know the tip of iceberg then they're such a darkweb. About Jonghyun, along with another, all of them will paid the price that they've been sacrificed in the end. Just wait until their time comes.
 
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Does the fact that Kim Jong Un likes to hide his one hand beneath his coat mean his hand always feel cold? Yeah probably when we see it through the normal/general public lenses but here we are seeing it from another perspective, so we can conclude that he probably is part of Freemason. Wait, doesn't Freemasonry only exist in liberalist countries (and not communist)? Sometimes we think that we know everything, but we just don't know. What you see here isn't always what you get. The purpose of this thread is to see things from different perspectives and to (sometimes) make crazy assumptions, again, that are not completely baseless..
North Korea is actually a cia created state and they are defiantly a pawn of NWO.
Their logo is very similar to that of Freemasonry
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it same style, and the red star actually is the all seeing eye

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The all seeing eye is watching over their puppet Kim Jong un, who is groomed in Switzerland, the headquarter of the illuminati.
Kim Jong Un is a freemason and probably an Mk Ultra, I watched a video before long time on that, he was even shown Micky and other Disney figures in North Korea, we all know that Disney is used for MK ultra.
There is also old news I have seen it that the Japanese military has tracked a USA plane going in North Korea and they said there is military equipment that was tracked by them and they asked USA for explanation for that, USA has told them something like keep this secret or else they threatened Japan
 
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I don't think he faked his death, simply for the reason that he had no control over his own career, let alone his own life. This may sound harsh, but knowing the culture of his company, it just doesn't make sense. Otherwise, it would be a waste to throw the celebration of death (aka the Olympics) and the whole symbolism they have been throwing out lately through their female artists, not to mention the signs shown even before his death. His MV "Shinin" also showed us that he was owned by the elite and they were the one who took control of his life, even until his death.

RanFan told us that when Jh was found, he was tied up and there were 3 men involved or something like that. It's just impossible for him to flee scene and fake his death. In order to do that, he should had had the support of his company, which clearly isn't the case here. It would had been easier for him to quit being a celebrity rather than faking his own death, but then again it's hard to quit when you already knew too much and you had been targeted since a long time. It's comforting to convince ourselves that he's still alive somewhere, but I've read too many theories about Hitler being alive somewhere in the 2000s to say that we better consider the obvious/legit clues that are already being served in front of us rather than looking for alternatives.
yeah I was thinking definitely if he faked his death its not his choice, it is what the illuminati has planned or his company, what made me suspecting this thing is that many of the 27 club has faked their death like kurt cobain.

"According to Cobain's biography, Heavier Than Heaven, Cobain's sister said that, as a child, Cobain talked about wanting to join the club."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kiribl...house-joins-unfortunate-27-club/#384cac77429f
I found this to be weird and suspicious, why would someone have desire to join the club? what is the advantage that we don't know?
any way, I thought hitler didn't really dead in 1945, I read that he actually was dead in Argentina later and I found that article convincing, it was long time I read it, I forget what they said.
The illuminati definitely has faked some of the death that people thought were really dead, but for us the average people, we can't knows for sure who was faked their death and who was really dead.
Someone also think Jonghyun faked his death, I posted before but may be if you haven't seen, it made me suspicious actually, but there is no way for us to know for sure unless we have contact with insider
 
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People made up rumors that his family didnt want him dissected and think thats the reason they didnt want autopsy done...that makes no sense
because I know south korean's burn bodies of deceased instead of burying most of the time..which is inhumane..so if they planned on burning him they should have no problem with an autopsy which is better than being burned.Post-mortem is important its the only way to know what the cause is and if foul-play happened
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/12/jonghyuns-family-decides-not-to-have-an-autopsy
Burning is not inhumane, it is Buddhist burial rites, plus Jonghyun family is christian, so they won't use Buddhist burial rites and thats understandable, but not having autopsy is alarming that something is not right, it mean either he is killed or faked his death
 

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I did post in the previous one to you why I am suspecting that he could be faked his death, so check that out, its about club 27 some of them were faked their death like Jim Morrison and Kurt Cobain
But why do you think he faked his death? What would be the reason? Sex scandal? Drug scandal? Something so bad that could damage SM and Shinee reputation? People don't fake deaths just to disappear. If he didn't want to be idol anymore he could just make goodbye album and quit with singing just like for example Dongho from U-KISS did. I know that you are a fan and want him to be alive but I don't think he faked his death.
 

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But why do you think he faked his death? What would be the reason? Sex scandal? Drug scandal? Something so bad that could damage SM and Shinee reputation? People don't fake deaths just to disappear. If he didn't want to be idol anymore he could just make goodbye album and quit with singing just like for example Dongho from U-KISS did. I know that you are a fan and want him to be alive but I don't think he faked his death.
I believe something more than that. Something that forbidden for him to tell to the public.I believe that he might have depression due to music as he said that he felt that he is not good enough,but i think there might be something else that cause him depressed so much that trigger him.If you see him in his last concert,he looked so distressed.Its like something botherd and scared him so much.Something that he kept inside which is very serious and he cannot tell anyone.If you read from previous post,there are so many speculation including about Illuminati/occult things.Some of comments that i read from yt and allkpop said that he was murdered.At first i don't want to believe it until i join this forum and people here also discuss the same thing that he was murdered.Tbh,i rather think he died because of commit suicide.If he was really murdered,i think it's really too much and cruel,wonder what he might think at time of his death :'(
 

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Guys just wanted to know your opinion. What do you think about John Cena being fan of BTS? Doesn't that seem to be odd? I mean I know that he can like their music etc but it seems so weird that guy like John Cena would listen to kpop boysband.
From the video I saw of him talking about it, it sounds like he posted a pic of hope without knowing who it was just cause he liked it, i mean, his whole instagram is random. And then army freaked out, and then he listened to bts and the mixtape lol and now he's like "yeah ok i'm in" when asked if he's part of the army.
 
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