I want to apologize for me blowing my lid at the accusations of Nayeon being a "tranny". It hit a nerve for many reasons (I am not a fan of calling transgendered people trannies, for one), but especially so because I've seen many pieces of "evidence" that someone is trans and it always, always boils down to "this isn't what a REAL woman looks like", which is incredibly insulting bc their idea of what a real woman looks like is so far from the truth it's laughable. And it hits home with me, because a lot of these supposed giveaways are things that I have. I am a "cis" woman, I don't have excess testosterone, my hormones are all normal, but I have a prominent adam's apple, sort of wide shoulders, the voice of a 12 year old boy, bony hands, not much going on in the boob region, I'm not tall but I am above average in height for girls in my country, and I'm 3/4 Thai. I say that because a lot of Thai girls, to be perfectly honest, look manly/like feminine men in drag. The makeup trends popular in Thailand don't help it either, it's very caked on. We are not men, these are just the faces our genetics have given us. I was bullied a lot for that in my teen years.
I have nothing to do with the whole discussion, I just want to say that it's okay to disagree with one's opinion but we have to be careful with the word choice. I was in an argument with you too, like a couple of pages ago, and there you said you're 1/2 Korean, here you said you're 3/4 Thai, Idk but the math just doesn't add up. It doesn't matter anyway. Just don't let anything triggers you personally.
I said that it's very difficult to understand for sure what Kpop groups are under elite control because of the concept of idols.
I have doubts, i have nothing certain, i don't see a triangle and think "illuminati confirmed", i do my research, i don't think they are satanist because Jin winked once because of his contact lens.
The Blood Sweat&Tears music video is as far as i know the ONLY video they have that is considered in here with some symbolism but the concept of the song and MV is good vs evil , and it's a quite popular theme, i don't know why you all believe only a "elite puppet" could use that theme.
The real question is do you all believe all Kpop is into accult?
The fact that there is occult and cospirocy don't meant they are all into it.
I think it's interesting to point out the "symbolism" but also what it would make them probably not into the elite.
Because if it's enough a butterfly tshirt to call them satanist or a wink or a V sign then everyone is.
I understand it's more fun for same people to "throw stones" at popular groups and to judge with moral high , but this doesn't mean that the baseless claims are true.
Hi Mintea, it's not just BST that gives away the occult symbolism, and even if it's really just BST, that doesn't eliminate BTS' involvement in the whole occult stuff. When we analyze this kind of thing, it's not wise to point our fingers at everyone, but it's not wise either to eliminate one of them just because we think they're not involved, especially if they're part of the mainstream Kpop. We have to see it with an open mind. The fact that you say it's just another popular theme, shows that this kind of stuff has been accepted by the general public. Please take into consideration that it's indeed the elite's goal to normalize and popularize all the occult symbolism so it will be accepted by us. I'm not biased towards anyone on this matter, I'm not into male groups and it's been so long since I actually liked anyone from the Kpop scene.
To be honest, I feel like we are being ridiculed by the elites right now. Even the all-seeing-eye symbol is being treated as "just a trend", just like how they do it with the Belluminati commercial, and every "awaken" person is being called "a man in the tin foil hat" or a conspiracy freak. They are not afraid that we're uncovering their secrets anymore, because they know that some will believe it and some will not. Some will be attracted and some will run away. They know we will fight because of this, and we will never uncover the real secrets anyway because they're hiding them so well. The so-called truth that we see and we think we know now is just the tip of an iceberg.
All we can do is assume, it's true. However, this kind of assumption isn't completely baseless when we actually try to match it with all the clues they have given us. Some of the earliest posts about BTS here contained analyses based on credible sources (the most credible sources would be the elite's own literature and media). A lot of symbols don't just show up because they're trends, I know saying that the V or peace sign is a part of the occult symbolism and it always means that way sounds a bit paranoid or far-fetched, but that doesn't take away the truth that it is indeed a part of the occult symbolism.
Does the fact that Kim Jong Un likes to hide his one hand beneath his coat mean his hand always feel cold? Yeah probably when we see it through the normal/general public lenses but here we are seeing it from another perspective, so we can conclude that he probably is part of Freemason. Wait, doesn't Freemasonry only exist in liberalist countries (and not communist)? Sometimes we think that we know everything, but we just don't know. What you see here isn't always what you get. The purpose of this thread is to see things from different perspectives and to (sometimes) make crazy assumptions, again, that are not completely baseless.
I saw video who the uploader said the coffin looks too light, I don't know, I also wished if RanFan can came and we could ask him about faking his death, I just haven't thought of it while he was there
I don't think he faked his death, simply for the reason that he had no control over his own career, let alone his own life. This may sound harsh, but knowing the culture of his company, it just doesn't make sense. Otherwise, it would be a waste to throw the celebration of death (aka the Olympics) and the whole symbolism they have been throwing out lately through their female artists, not to mention the signs shown even before his death. His MV "Shinin" also showed us that he was owned by the elite and they were the one who took control of his life, even until his death.
RanFan told us that when Jh was found, he was tied up and there were 3 men involved or something like that. It's just impossible for him to flee scene and fake his death. In order to do that, he should had had the support of his company, which clearly isn't the case here. It would had been easier for him to quit being a celebrity rather than faking his own death, but then again it's hard to quit when you already knew too much and you had been targeted since a long time. It's comforting to convince ourselves that he's still alive somewhere, but I've read too many theories about Hitler being alive somewhere in the 2000s to say that we better consider the obvious/legit clues that are already being served in front of us rather than looking for alternatives.