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Hahah. Hey. Everyone is open to their opinions. I'm just trying to clarify things in these forums. I feel like it for sure is something that happens at birth. It just. Is that way. It was for me. But that's not me saying I don't see how this trans thing is being pushed. And that's what bothers me. There are people like me who have to deal with it every day. And have been. And then people who use this "trend" to generate negative things.
 

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incognito:

let me be straightforward, since you are asking for comments:

i morally dont agree with your lifestyle, but i will defend your right to do as you please. i dont think you should be discriminated against (nor should anyone), but you should not get any special privileges over anyone. if you did, that would simply breed resentment among those who dont have them. everyone should be on an equal footing.

lastly, with respect to kids, i am vehemently against children being indoctrinated into any gender politics or any kind of sexual inclination prior to the age of puberty (13). kids need to be kids. after that, if they wish to be whatever, they have that right.
 

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incognito:

let me be straightforward, since you are asking for comments:

i morally dont agree with your lifestyle, but i will defend your right to do as you please. i dont think you should be discriminated against (nor should anyone), but you should not get any special privileges over anyone. if you did, that would simply breed resentment among those who dont have them. everyone should be on an equal footing.

lastly, with respect to kids, i am vehemently against children being indoctrinated into any gender politics or any kind of sexual inclination prior to the age of puberty (13). kids need to be kids. after that, if they wish to be whatever, they have that right.
Hear, Hear.
 

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Dissociated in the womb maybe. And that would mean they are born like that. Carl Jung theorized that archetypes were the origins of sexual orientation. And that's much deeper than having a shattered persona. These are the unconscious images that define who were are, and how we interact with the world around us.

Jung would probably call it a complex. And he said sometimes people have complexes, and sometimes complexes have us. Like I'm pretty sure I had a God complex in the womb. That's pretty deep stuff. There are no outside sources to blame at this depth. There are no outside sources for me to blame for being a straight male. It's an archetype. It has me, I don't have it.
 

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I also like how the people who like to stir things up have nothing to say.
This comment seemingly means that you are familiar with posters here, which seems a bit of an odd thing to me with you being sort of new. If you want or expect those who like to stir things up to participate as you say in said comment, then you seem to be inviting controversy or whatever else. Just saying. In the end, this is probably not them best place to ask such questions and it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks here. Some will certainly not want to comment at all which is quite natural.
 

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Okay. I am not saying hey let's go talk to children and make them like me. Kids have a mind. Thoughts do occur to them. When I was a kid I thought "yeah this isn't like everyone else" I knew the difference between someone being straight (my friends) and me. When I got older I realized what was happening. I am gay. And I don't identify with my gender
 

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Also, no. I haven't had any kind of traumatic experience. This is just how I've always felt.

What makes me feel this way? Well I don't entirely know how to explain. It's just the fact that as a woman. As I got older I tried to hide the fact I am. Big shirts. Cut my hair. Etc.
 

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This comment seemingly means that you are familiar with posters here, which seems a bit of an odd thing to me with you being sort of new. If you want or expect those who like to stir things up to participate as you say in said comment, then you seem to be inviting controversy or whatever else. Just saying. In the end, this is probably not them best place to ask such questions and it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks here. Some will certainly not want to comment at all which is quite natural.

After I posed this. I knew I made a mistake. Which is why I corrected myself. I am human. I get heated some times. But I specifically posted this for people to ask questions. And understand.
 

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Where I am from in the U.S. there are plenty of females who play the butch role and live happily in doing so. Many want to play the man role like my cousins partner, but they do not transition. I really think the things you are describing need professional council and not board chatter. I honestly think that would be your best course of action. By asking some here who have stringent beliefs due to morals and religious beliefs which would only further your personal tail spin with their responses, it is likely best to seek professional advice as to worries, hang ups and or personal self loathing of the way you were born. It truly seems to bother you and therefore you need someone to talk to, but again, the advice you seek here will not fulfill your needs or provide you with long term solutions. FWIW, we all have something we do not like about ourselves but we put it into perspective.
 
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Are you serious? lol. I have moments of unhapinness but. I'm not so hurt that I need therapy lol
 

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Where I am from there are plenty of females who play the butch role and live happily in doing so. Many want to play the man role like my cousins partner, but they do not transition. I really think the things you are describing need professional council and not board chatter. I honestly think that would be your best course of action. By asking some here who have stringent beliefs due to morals and religious beliefs which would only further your personal tail spin with their responses, it is likely best to seek professional advice as to worries, hang ups and or personal self loathing of the way you were born. It truly seems to bother you and therefore you need someone to talk to, but again, the advice you seek here will not fulfill your needs or provide you with long term solutions. FWIW, we all have something we do not like about ourselves but we put it into perspective.
Where are you from
 

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Are you serious? lol. I have moments of unhapinness but. I'm not so hurt that I need therapy lol
There is certainly a chance I am reading the situation wrong and yes, I was serious in my suggestion. But you are questioning many who have no idea what is up with you save your comments. I don't think there are many here in a similar situation as yours, thus their inability to answer questions or offer advice. You even seemed to get peeved when some would not participate in the conversation, so... anyhow, I am glad you feel you are not so hurt as to needing therapy to deal with things. As for my family feeling any certain way, I am not sure what you are talking about in that I did not discuss their thinking or beliefs.
 

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Before I continue I want to say that I completely, 100%, support non-discrimination of LGBTQ people. I am, myself, a woman who considers myself genderqueer (taking elements of both genders), but I identify mainly as a woman. I'm married to a man. I have sex with my husband, but I also find women attractive.

We are who we are, and I don't think anyone has a right to harming or discriminating against someone for their gender identity or sexual orientation. That's a basic principle of life - live and let live.

I do, however, find it fascinating that it is so common. I often wonder if there is a link between the level of pollution we've put into the earth and the rise in LGBTQ. There are some studies that show men have lower testosterone than generations in the past. And in women, PCOS is becoming a common disorder due to obesity. This disorder, PCOS, causes higher testosterone in women.

If you look at evolution and the biological way of life, it makes absolutely no sense to not want to procreate. One of the biggest instincts we (and all life on earth) have is to procreate and create a new generation. Something is short-circuiting that instinctual pull.

I don't want to conclude that people are turning gay because of pollution, because that would be incredibly insensitive, but there is some evidence that environmental pollution changes the endocrine system. It also would suggest that we could turn people straight by just upping their hormone levels, which has been shown to be 100% false. So who knows. Maybe we've been this way for centuries but just now we are no longer afraid to be killed or ostracized for it. :)
 
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