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I posted some sasaeng information on another post that said he's a player and not humble at all. He has a sweet bunny reputation among his fans but he's not sweet. None of them are sweet people. There's something similar in my culture. You can see a person's character on their face. They have such a hard and depraved look on their faces. I wonder how Armys see them needing protection. Their fans need protection from the group. Their natural gifts were used to glorify evil. It makes sense that they would lose their God given gifts.
all of them are not humble , there's some artists that have success and still remain humble
 

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i recommend watching the full video, but 11:10 onwards was very interesting
While some of the things in this seem a little exaggerated I agree with the jewelry and lyrics part I don't understand why they wear cross jewelry when they are not christian and the lyrics are wierd as well at first I did not understand what they were talking about but now I think they may be talking about a celestial/astronomical event to mark something big

Cause I-I-I'm in the stars tonight
So watch me bring the fire and set the night alight
they are in the stars and they are bringing fire down to the earth and they are talking about singing and dancing through the night they are gathering a large crowd could be referring to a ritual like some kind of a pagan festival to celebrate some celestial event in this.
 

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While some of the things in this seem a little exaggerated I agree with the jewelry and lyrics part I don't understand why they wear cross jewelry when they are not christian and the lyrics are wierd as well at first I did not understand what they were talking about but now I think they may be talking about a celestial/astronomical event to mark something big

Cause I-I-I'm in the stars tonight
So watch me bring the fire and set the night alight
they are in the stars and they are bringing fire down to the earth and they are talking about singing and dancing through the night they are gathering a large crowd could be referring to a ritual like some kind of a pagan festival to celebrate some celestial event in this.
i believe s/he said they are mocking jesus with that and she would make a video on j1m1n being the "christ figure" in the group, hence why he always wears the cross jewelry
what i also found interesting was that in her other video she suspects that jh0pe/ namj00n are the handlers in the group... and i remember the members would say that jh0pe is the scariest when he's angry or something like that....
 

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Cause I-I-I'm in the stars tonight
So watch me bring the fire and set the night alight
they are in the stars and they are bringing fire down to the earth and they are talking about singing and dancing through the night they are gathering a large crowd could be referring to a ritual like some kind of a pagan festival to celebrate some celestial event in this.
yeah, that part also reminds me in the butter lyrics where they say:

Side step, right, left to my beat
High like the moon, rock with me, baby
Know that I got that heat

they are both the chorus's in the songs, so first in dynam1te they mention stars, and now here they mention the moon... and i believe moon/sun/star worship has to do with satan...
and they say in dynam1te "so watch me bring the fire and set the night alight" and here they say "know that I got that heat" ....
 

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i believe s/he said they are mocking jesus with that and she would make a video on j1m1n being the "christ figure" in the group, hence why he always wears the cross jewelry
what i also found interesting was that in her other video she suspects that jh0pe/ namj00n are the handlers in the group... and i remember the members would say that jh0pe is the scariest when he's angry or something like that....
J1m1n represents the baphomet figure in their group remember satan loves the masculine and feminine energy balance thing and yeah jhope and Rm feel like handlers to me as well
 

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J1m1n represents the baphomet figure in their group remember satan loves the masculine and feminine energy balance thing and yeah jhope and Rm feel like handlers to me as well
wow makes sense cause he's the most androgynous looking... and i've recently been starting to think he might really be a secret transgender. Reminds me of txt ye0njun cause he's the one they use the most to push the androgynous agenda and in the storyline he is the boy with the horns, just like the baphomet. I also suspect him to be a secret transgender because of some traits, including him having no adam's apple...
 

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wow makes sense cause he's the most androgynous looking... and i've recently been starting to think he might really be a secret transgender. Reminds me of txt ye0njun cause he's the one they use the most to push the androgynous agenda and in the storyline he is the boy with the horns, just like the baphomet. I also suspect him to be a secret transgender because of some traits, including him having no adam's apple...
yes he could I find it strange how his appearance and personality suddenly had a massive change between 2015-16 when they debuted he used to be the masculine one with the most muscles but fast forward to 2016 he looked like a literal woman maybe he went through harmonal transitioning or something
 
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Bt5 don't work as hard as they claim they have been promoting in America since 2017 they should have been fluent in English by now but they still rely on RM for communications superm hyung line couldn't speak English when they debuted in 2019 but ba3k and ta3m have shown so much improvement since then ba3k recently explained something to a fan/someone entirely in English ta3m has done full vlives in English and actively tries to communicate with fans in his broken English and they do that while actively doing their og group and solo activities while bt5 still are almost at the same level as 2018 if they work so hard why don't we see any improvement from them same with j1m1n's singing everyone in bt5 says he works hard still he has shown no improvement
They don't have to bother. Armys will eviscerate anyone who makes fun or talks about their poor English skills. Even Rm, who's fluent, struggles when he's not in America for awhile. He didn't learn English from Friends. He went to Australia for a student exchange. Jn went too, but I'm surprised he's less fluent. Sg and Jh understand English. When Rm was insulting their English, Sg told the host he liked the show and watches regularly. They don't get along that well, is what I've heard.
 
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While some of the things in this seem a little exaggerated I agree with the jewelry and lyrics part I don't understand why they wear cross jewelry when they are not christian and the lyrics are wierd as well at first I did not understand what they were talking about but now I think they may be talking about a celestial/astronomical event to mark something big

Cause I-I-I'm in the stars tonight
So watch me bring the fire and set the night alight
they are in the stars and they are bringing fire down to the earth and they are talking about singing and dancing through the night they are gathering a large crowd could be referring to a ritual like some kind of a pagan festival to celebrate some celestial event in this.
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Lucifer is called the morning star and connected with the planet Venus.
 
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yes he could I find it strange how his appearance and personality suddenly had a massive change between 2015-16 when they debuted he used to be the masculine one with the most muscles but fast forward to 2016 he looked like a literal woman maybe he went through harmonal transitioning or something
There's a theory that Jm is ftm. He hangs out with very androgynous idol friends like Taemin. It shows on his appearance. The same way that Jk has become more feminine. They used to be so masculine. Now they look like girls.
 

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There's a theory that Jm is ftm. He hangs out with very androgynous idol friends like Taemin. It shows on his appearance. The same way that Jk has become more feminine. They used to be so masculine. Now they look like girls.
well in T@emin's case it was basically 5m mistreating him and forcing him to crossdress in his teens I don't think he is trans because he said he doesn't like being misgendered and actively rebelled against that image atleast up until press it era (5m did the same with heechul of suju who wholeheartedly accepted that image) and even now he doesn't look that feminine to me but j1m1n he literally looks like a woman in some of their mvs like I have seen army's compile videos of normal straight men reacting to j1m1n and some of them mistake him for a woman that is not normal and yeah JK is looking more and more feminine since last year.
 

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I did some research on bt5 and I have realized why they were the ones chosen for worldwide success firstly a brief introduction

If we look at modern trends in hollywood and basically media in every country we can see their are some basic themes they are trying to propagate
1- The concept of self love and freedom (this one is self explanatory but I will just say that self love leads to arrogance and pride which got luc1fer out of heaven)
2- That their is good in evil and evil in good (There seems to be a trend of depicting the morally good people in a bad light and bad boys or bad girls as the heroes or good people in movies and literature villians are portrayed as sympathetic people and we literally have teenagers rooting for mass murderers and criminals just because they have been given a sob story)
3- The rejection of traditional religion and God (So many times we have seen the evil priest or the mad religious leader traditional religion is depicted as being constrictive and binding something you have to break free from)
Bt5's discography contains all three of these concepts

Their love yourself series depicted the concept of self love and freedom their Wings Era discussed the concept of the good and evil concept and rejection of traditional religions and God
Firstly Rm their leader is an athiest he has commit blasphemy against God with his song God's Rap their breakthrough happened after BST which was based on Demian a novel inspired by nietzche who was famous for being one of the biggest enemies of traditional religion
Blood sweat and tears is about them saying that if you want to reach self realization if you want to reach the "Truth" you have to taste temptation which is exactly what luc1fer did. The book Demian is based on the Idea that the Jewish God is not the true depiction of God and that God has both good and bad sides and the "bird has to break from its egg to reach the truth" this concept is so satanic because first of all this is exactly what luc1fer did in genesis he helped Adam and Eve break free from their eggs their "corruption free innocent selves" also by saying that God has both good and evil sides they are basically telling their fans that they should embrace this duality of good and evil when God asks to fight against it in his book all members of bt5 are depicted as being enlightened having their eyes open after they commit different sins in the Mv also the book Demian portrays traditional religion as being a bad thing which is another agenda promoted by satan.
Their next big blasphemous move was the map of the soul series this was based on carl jung's book and theory of individuation. Carl jung was known to be in the occult and alchemy so you can see where all their inspirations are coming from.
The map of the soul series is based on the concept of finding oneself through self realization process (which does not include God and is about breaking free from society's constraints) and one thing that particularly caught my interest was this and I am going to just copy paste it from wikipedia to save time
1- Anima and animus ( masculine feminine duality) Jung identified the archetypal anima as being the unconscious feminine component of men and the archetypal animus as the unconscious masculine component in women he said and he said that men or women who subscribe to gender roles have not realized their inner anima or animus.
The individuation process is shown in their On mv which is blasphemous as well because of the depiction of V on a cross similiar to the Christ and Rm representing Prophet Noah A.S and they basically reiterating the concept they presented in blood sweat and tears by saying that we should accept our real selves hidden beneath the masks.
So basically my theory is that bt5 were chosen because they are aware and believe in the occultic concepts spread by people like Carl Jung and nietzsche they are different from other idols because even if other idols are doing satanic stuff they are most likely unaware and do not believe in this stuff while bt5 believe in the occult and satanic agenda that's why they were the ones chosen by the elite out of all the groups.
 
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well in T@emin's case it was basically 5m mistreating him and forcing him to crossdress in his teens I don't think he is trans because he said he doesn't like being misgendered and actively rebelled against that image atleast up until press it era (5m did the same with heechul of suju who wholeheartedly accepted that image) and even now he doesn't look that feminine to me but j1m1n he literally looks like a woman in some of their mvs like I have seen army's compile videos of normal straight men reacting to j1m1n and some of them mistake him for a woman that is not normal and yeah JK is looking more and more feminine since last year.
It's a trend for people to be seduced and deceived by the same gender, but not realize it in the beginning. He looks very feminine. Has he taken hormones or did something to achieve a feminine body? That doesn't come naturally unless they're built that way or do surgery and hormones. How did Taemin break free of the trans agenda?
I did some research on bt5 and I have realized why they were the ones chosen for worldwide success firstly a brief introduction

If we look at modern trends in hollywood and basically media in every country we can see their are some basic themes they are trying to propagate
1- The concept of self love and freedom (this one is self explanatory but I will just say that self love leads to arrogance and pride which got luc1fer out of heaven)
2- That their is good in evil and evil in good (There seems to be a trend of depicting the morally good people in a bad light and bad boys or bad girls as the heroes or good people in movies and literature villians are portrayed as sympathetic people and we literally have teenagers rooting for mass murderers and criminals just because they have been given a sob story)
3- The rejection of traditional religion and God (So many times we have seen the evil priest or the mad religious leader traditional religion is depicted as being constrictive and binding something you have to break free from)
Bt5's discography contains all three of these concepts

Their love yourself series depicted the concept of self love and freedom their Wings Era discussed the concept of the good and evil concept and rejection of traditional religions and God
Firstly Rm their leader is an athiest he has commit blasphemy against God with his song God's Rap their breakthrough happened after BST which was based on Demian a novel inspired by nietzche who was famous for being one of the biggest enemies of traditional religion
Blood sweat and tears is about them saying that if you want to reach self realization if you want to reach the "Truth" you have to taste temptation which is exactly what luc1fer did. The book Demian is based on the Idea that the Jewish God is not the true depiction of God and that God has both good and bad sides and the "bird has to break from its egg to reach the truth" this concept is so satanic because first of all this is exactly what luc1fer did in genesis he helped Adam and Eve break free from their eggs their "corruption free innocent selves" also by saying that God has both good and evil sides they are basically telling their fans that they should embrace this duality of good and evil when God asks to fight against it in his book all members of bt5 are depicted as being enlightened having their eyes open after they commit different sins in the Mv also the book Demian portrays traditional religion as being a bad thing which is another agenda promoted by satan.
Their next big blasphemous move was the map of the soul series this was based on carl jung's book and theory of individuation. Carl jung was known to be in the occult and alchemy so you can see where all their inspirations are coming from.
The map of the soul series is based on the concept of finding oneself through self realization process (which does not include God and is about breaking free from society's constraints) and one thing that particularly caught my interest was this and I am going to just copy paste it from wikipedia to save time
1- Anima and animus ( masculine feminine duality) Jung identified the archetypal anima as being the unconscious feminine component of men and the archetypal animus as the unconscious masculine component in women he said and he said that men or women who subscribe to gender roles have not realized their inner anima or animus.
The individuation process is shown in their On mv which is blasphemous as well because of the depiction of V on a cross similiar to the Christ and Rm representing Prophet Noah A.S and they basically reiterating the concept they presented in blood sweat and tears by saying that we should accept our real selves hidden beneath the masks.
So basically my theory is that bt5 were chosen because they are aware and believe in the occultic concepts spread by people like Carl Jung and nietzsche they are different from other idols because even if other idols are doing satanic stuff they are most likely unaware and do not believe in this stuff while bt5 believe in the occult and satanic agenda that's why they were the ones chosen by the elite out of all the groups.
I enjoyed this analysis. Do you think they're really aware or initiated? The handlers could know but the maknae might not know. I think Jk, Rm and Jh know what they're doing. This era is about being openly satanic. They have primed Armys to accept their satanic behavior. My mind is always blown by how many religious people embrace them or ship members together. Are you Muslim? Can you please explain why so many muslims embrace them? I've seen Christians explain why they're fans. A Muslim girl hacked their social media. I assumed parents wouldn't let their kids get involved with that.
 

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Fujiko posted a link on the MK-Ultra project:
And in the same site:
OCCULTISM | SAVE THE CHILDREN! (wordpress.com)
They make a reference to cannibalism. I thought back to BTS's IDOL clip:
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I just noticed that the moon is yellow. On the outside the moon represents the mother, and the yellow one: Lucifer. Additionally, J-Hope wears a yellow bunny-themed sweater. Which makes me think that the Chibi version they released, Suga just has the apple, which Snow White eats, the apple that Snow White (V) in one of their parody eats ,. The seven dwarfs represent the different planets. Outside the apple, represents the pulpit (it is the fruit of the passion, of the sexual act).

Which underlines once again, that Jin will be the next victim, and probably soon, given what I saw. Finally, for the moment, I would say, that if they want a sacrifice, it will be the first.

In the background has two branches, that of the tree of Jin (the human) and those of the other BTS (the rabbits), which have a tree of their own. For Jin at the end of the cycle, the other members, at the beginning of the cycle.
The tree represents the victim, the person. I discovered it, by the illustration, that made the victim that I met. He pictured himself as a tree. Victim of the 'game of death', where he was to throw arrows and an ax at him, as we can see in lots of clips. And here is an illustration that perfectly represents this term cannibalism:
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I have seen that on several occasions that it gives them powers.

The same goes for sex, which they practice. I read on a site of an alchemist, that he practiced it, to increase his powers, thanks to the reconnection of energies.
 
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It's a trend for people to be seduced and deceived by the same gender, but not realize it in the beginning. He looks very feminine. Has he taken hormones or did something to achieve a feminine body? That doesn't come naturally unless they're built that way or do surgery and hormones. How did Taemin break free of the trans agenda?

I enjoyed this analysis. Do you think they're really aware or initiated? The handlers could know but the maknae might not know. I think Jk, Rm and Jh know what they're doing. This era is about being openly satanic. They have primed Armys to accept their satanic behavior. My mind is always blown by how many religious people embrace them or ship members together. Are you Muslim? Can you please explain why so many muslims embrace them? I've seen Christians explain why they're fans. A Muslim girl hacked their social media. I assumed parents wouldn't let their kids get involved with that.
Yes I am a Muslim and I have also read some of the bible I have one copy of it at home and about muslims loving bts well technically alot of Muslims and by alot I mean actually 60-70% of the entire Muslim population does not know anything about islam beyond fasting and praying our religion is very strict regarding blasphemy against God or any of the Prophets A.S (Real Muslims do not tolerate anyone mocking Jesus Christ either) and LGBTQ agenda but in the last 10-20 years our govts have also started to spread this satanic stuff you see in the west and since most Muslim countries are poor people think you have to imitate the west to be successful so you have alot of young people who do not believe in traditional religious teachings and actually sell their soul to spread satanic agenda for some fame and money so all of these so called Muslims supporting bt5 are basically those teenagers who hate traditional family structure believe in feminism, LGBTQ agenda and want to imitate the western countries.

About T@emin I mainly follow his group so I know a lot about him I think he is just playing an image 5m has the habit of assigning images and roles to their idols and t@emin is the flower boy of the group he just enlisted last week as an active duty soldier so he probably has a strong body despite his looks (alot of more manly looking idols than him like suh0 and baekhyun enlisted in public service which is for those who have weak body or some physical health issues) and he has way more stamina then jk, j1m1n he is almost never injured or sick like them on his solo or group tours and almost works 10x times harder than them and that on a 1 meal a day diet so I don't think he is ftm though I would reccomend watching his want mv he portrayed luc1fer in that one it's based on the story of Adam, eve and Satan (he is an open catholic) and I think his portrayal of luc1fer is quite accurate in appearance and with lyrics talking about slowly teasing us, temptation of sin and satan, relying on self control to save ourselves from temptation.

I can't say anything about the maknae line and j1n but the rap line definitely knows what they are doing and jk might actually know too since he is very close to Rm but the point is their inspiration comes from people in the occult and those who are against God and traditional religion so they are more sinister than other kpop idols.
 
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