Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

arhur12

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I really didn't want this discussion to turn into a personal fight bc imagine if there are insiders lurking here they'd be laughing at us on their throne made of dust. While we reunited here bc we agreed on this thread's subject, I realized that not a lot of different members are gathering here(im not classifying the right and wrong type of persons and I can't describe them all lol): those who refuse to call themselves fans even between themselves, those who admit they are still fans, those who take their opinions for facts esp. if more than one person agrees with it, tho there's a chance it might true or false but still this opinion will get developped and taken as truth and imo, there are certain things we can discuss but briefly bc obviously, some of them might undermine the wickedness of the industry and can cause cognitive dissonance and again the understimation of how evil this industry is.

We also agree that the performers are puppets, but how can we know if after they became consenting adults they are still adhering to this industry's principle? We don't, we only try to guess and unless we are completely sure, we can't use these theories as receipts to prove that this industry is nowhere as innocent as it is shown and that it has, like every other industry supposedly, a bad as well as a good side (tho it has been already proven and we don't need further proof but if the discussion is going to be kept, we might as well only talk abt those who make the puppets act).


Why talking abt companies is more important?
1.While they are subjected to an agenda as well, they are the one that are directly controlling those who are put in front and those who are the reason (the image they put on display) of the obsession of millions of people, the obsession that is problematic.

2.We know how mainstream media has been painting a big part of the truth as conspiracy theories that only crazy and delusional people believe in(im not saying that every single thing that is called a conspiracy theory is to be unconspiracied and believed), also some kids and teenagers are sadly kinda fed up of their parents telling them to stop obsessing and that it won't benefit them and then u have their favs that come and say "do what u want" "ur free" "ignore the haters" and then any advice will be taken as an insult to their freedom.
So telling someone who is a fan that ur fav or bias is deceiving you, they won't believe u even if u reach the moon (well in some cases some are open for discussion but im talking abt those who are under their influence), bc the way they perceive those artists as their best friend is taped within them. Yeah so talking with a someone in a way that they might understand is way more productive (of course im not saying that the artists aren't playing a role at all but yknow we should begin with logic).

Those were suggestions.

Anyway I wont make it any longer and sorry for the bold font i couldn't remove it.
yes exactly. western celebs seem to be aware and actively promoting the agenda so i would also conclude that so are kcelebs. no one is better than the other, they all played a role. the only difference i would say between the western celebs and idols is that western celebs dont have crazy rigid contracts like kidols have. western celebs can date can do drugs etc party in public etc, whilst its much more stricter for idols. so whilst they r all under the same influence and serve the same purpose, idols are not going to be as truthful or direct as westerners. plus they only show us what they want us to see as fans and as viewers, their vlives (normally theres a manager or someone in the room behind the camera), their variety shows, interviews - theyre all either scripted or edited so we only see and know what they allow. so i agree with you they may seem normal and innocent during their promotions etc but with the knowledge and info we all have we know better than to believe them.

yes i agree again lol. the main point was that everyone is responsible and no one is better than the other bc every celeb and every idol are involved in dark things.
I also think that some of them are indoctrinated so much they don't realize that what they are doing is wrong I mean look around us there are so many people nowadays who support all of these stupid movements when an idol or a celebrity does something satanic fans glorify them instead of criticizing them we were talking about internet war performance earlier I have seen shawols praise sh1nee for being COURAGEOUS enough to do that performance they use it to brag about there favs its insane like if we go back to 10-20 years these things were actively discouraged when Britney came out with Baby one more time she faced so much backlash from conservative parents while nowadays we have parents who are trying to raise gender fluid children and most of these people are regular citizens just like us with no connections to the occult so maybe some of these celebs are just indoctrinated so much especially the ones who have been in this game since they were children that they honestly believe they are doing something right by supporting these satanic agendas
 

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I also think that some of them are indoctrinated so much they don't realize that what they are doing is wrong I mean look around us there are so many people nowadays who support all of these stupid movements when an idol or a celebrity does something satanic fans glorify them instead of criticizing them we were talking about internet war performance earlier I have seen shawols praise sh1nee for being COURAGEOUS enough to do that performance they use it to brag about there favs its insane like if we go back to 10-20 years these things were actively discouraged when Britney came out with Baby one more time she faced so much backlash from conservative parents while nowadays we have parents who are trying to raise gender fluid children and most of these people are regular citizens just like us with no connections to the occult so maybe some of these celebs are just indoctrinated so much especially the ones who have been in this game since they were children that they honestly believe they are doing something right by supporting these satanic agendas
thats the goal the elites want. I was literally talking one time about how bt5 glorify and worship satan and someone responded to me by saying "respect their religion". They are brainwashed to the point they don't even realize all these agendas are being pushed.:confused:
 

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I also think that some of them are indoctrinated so much they don't realize that what they are doing is wrong I mean look around us there are so many people nowadays who support all of these stupid movements when an idol or a celebrity does something satanic fans glorify them instead of criticizing them we were talking about internet war performance earlier I have seen shawols praise sh1nee for being COURAGEOUS enough to do that performance they use it to brag about there favs its insane like if we go back to 10-20 years these things were actively discouraged when Britney came out with Baby one more time she faced so much backlash from conservative parents while nowadays we have parents who are trying to raise gender fluid children and most of these people are regular citizens just like us with no connections to the occult so maybe some of these celebs are just indoctrinated so much especially the ones who have been in this game since they were children that they honestly believe they are doing something right by supporting these satanic agendas
thats the goal the elites want. I was literally talking one time about how bt5 glorify and worship satan and someone responded to me by saying "respect their religion". They are brainwashed to the point they don't even realize all these agendas are being pushed.:confused:
i dont know what else could explain this obsessive behaviour some fans possess . . . its so sad that theyre blinded by the charms (literally) of the idols. but it gets to a point where they r beyond ur help especially if u try and open their eyes or correct them on their behaviours and they refuse to listen
 

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Yeah they were all grooming him the whole concept of sh1nee being his baby sitters was fake they were training him to become a slave of this satanic industry


Explain this to me and I will accept that j0nghyun was a pure person
on 0:15 he does the one eye also this is a teaser for his solo concert X-inspiration so it's not related to sh1nee j0nghyun had a lot of control over his solo work also you said he was tired of l5m but l5m is listed as an executive producer for Base his debut album
this is his solo mv he used the same symbolism as t@emin he is tied just like T@emin is in various of his mvs he wears a mask again like t@emin his makeup is adrogynous he has black and white duality going on at 2:36 you can see checkered pattern on the stairs also j0nghyun was the first 5m artist to be allowed to collaborate with people outside of his agency he was given complete freedom over his career he wrote 90% of his own songs and was producer of his albums and 5m allowed him to promote on music shows unlike Chanyeol who's self produced album was given nothing j0nghyun was also part of 5m the ballad he was not as mistreated as everyone believes also 5m paid dust to f(x) and sulli after her death but they paid money to shiny foundation and also held a memorial for j0nghyun after his death. sulli was way more mistreated than j0nghyun but no one talks about her 5m she was constantly bullied by knetz and sasaengs but 5m did not do anything for her and they erased her and her group after her death like they never existed
I will put in discussions the opinions that i had after i read Cocktail lyrics.Wth.I am very bad to understand men lol
 

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i had this video open in my taskbar (i have a lot of random sites sitting there opened) but i was clearing my taskbar and saw that i had this video open.


about half way through i realised i had seen it before but its a good reminder to the shady things music producers do behind the doors when producing the music. and this is just about rock music.
 

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This is so creepy I almost got scared watching this they aren't even hiding it anymore :eek:
No wonder he had a hiatus in the past due to anxiety.In the live performance he is creepy too.
 
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Yeah they were all grooming him the whole concept of sh1nee being his baby sitters was fake they were training him to become a slave of this satanic industry


Explain this to me and I will accept that j0nghyun was a pure person
on 0:15 he does the one eye also this is a teaser for his solo concert X-inspiration so it's not related to sh1nee j0nghyun had a lot of control over his solo work also you said he was tired of l5m but l5m is listed as an executive producer for Base his debut album
this is his solo mv he used the same symbolism as t@emin he is tied just like T@emin is in various of his mvs he wears a mask again like t@emin his makeup is adrogynous he has black and white duality going on at 2:36 you can see checkered pattern on the stairs also j0nghyun was the first 5m artist to be allowed to collaborate with people outside of his agency he was given complete freedom over his career he wrote 90% of his own songs and was producer of his albums and 5m allowed him to promote on music shows unlike Chanyeol who's self produced album was given nothing j0nghyun was also part of 5m the ballad he was not as mistreated as everyone believes also 5m paid dust to f(x) and sulli after her death but they paid money to shiny foundation and also held a memorial for j0nghyun after his death. sulli was way more mistreated than j0nghyun but no one talks about her 5m she was constantly bullied by knetz and sasaengs but 5m did not do anything for her and they erased her and her group after her death like they never existed



Yeah they were all grooming him the whole concept of sh1nee being his baby sitters was fake they were training him to become a slave of this satanic industry


Explain this to me and I will accept that j0nghyun was a pure person
on 0:15 he does the one eye also this is a teaser for his solo concert X-inspiration so it's not related to sh1nee j0nghyun had a lot of control over his solo work also you said he was tired of l5m but l5m is listed as an executive producer for Base his debut album
this is his solo mv he used the same symbolism as t@emin he is tied just like T@emin is in various of his mvs he wears a mask again like t@emin his makeup is adrogynous he has black and white duality going on at 2:36 you can see checkered pattern on the stairs also j0nghyun was the first 5m artist to be allowed to collaborate with people outside of his agency he was given complete freedom over his career he wrote 90% of his own songs and was producer of his albums and 5m allowed him to promote on music shows unlike Chanyeol who's self produced album was given nothing j0nghyun was also part of 5m the ballad he was not as mistreated as everyone believes also 5m paid dust to f(x) and sulli after her death but they paid money to shiny foundation and also held a memorial for j0nghyun after his death. sulli was way more mistreated than j0nghyun but no one talks about her 5m she was constantly bullied by knetz and sasaengs but 5m did not do anything for her and they erased her and her group after her death like they never existed

Hi, I'm back.
First of all, I would like to clarify thing that I don't believe in MK Ultra. Not saying it doesn't exist, but I don't believe that a magnificent creation like a human is completely helpless under its control. Cuz God created us with intelligence, to be able to distinguish between right and wrong deeds, so he'll hold us all together for punishing and rewarding each one for what they deserve. So, does it make sense that a mortal creation could possibly ever be powerful than his immortal creator...?!

I read articles about how these celebrities got involved into such cults. Since most of them were coming from poor families, they blindly signed their contracts for change their measurable lives. Then, after they got into the industry, they realized the fatal mistake they've done but unfortunately after it was too late. MK Ultra is including drugs, sexual practices, and more disgusting things that anyone could imagine. But hey, aren't these practices being done already by ordinary people?!

My point is the fact that the goodness or badness of someone does actually come from within, not from outside. MK Ultra is just making the badness even worst, that's why -in my opinion- there were people though all the horrible torture and mutilations they've been through, they still mangaged to break out free and lived normally. As a matter of fact, there are some K idols who had bad reputation even before their training days.

As for the reason why I'm targetting the rest of SHINEE members, is due to the fact they were witnessing everything behind the closed doors but still chose to renew their contracts as if JJONG wasn't existed at all. Shinhwa, JYJ, and even a junior group Got7 were able to restart their careers elsewhere. So, what excuses SHINee have to justify their attitude?!

SM didn't give Jonghyun that freedom because they wanted to, they did because they had to and that's what all those arguments between the two were about, he didn't like to have all that symbols in his MVs either but he had to satisfied with his exclusive free space he got until he finally get rid of his contract restriction. But eventually, as soon as his wings were ready to fly away... BOOM!

And please, don't be fooled by that foundation. It's said that it's meant to help all celebrities to improve their mental health. But the fact is that Sulli and Hara along with four/five young actors has passed away after. So, what kind of help was that...?

Speaking of Sulli, F(x) group had been neglected by sm long before Jjong's incident. And if I'm not mistaken, they had been so even before Jessica dispanded from SNSD in 2014. Poor Sulli was tortured mentally, after a very long time of hiatus she got to be active on social media which apparently didn't please some fanatic netizens who left aggressive and sexual comments under her posts. She asked SM for legal actions but they mostly deliberately ignored her shouting for help in preparation for the next stage. Her mental had more than enough of suffering all that pressure, so all what SM had to do at this point was just adding the final straw by forcing her to attend that show where she had to read the haters comments loudly in front of cameras.


As someone here claimed earlier, I never knew Jjong.
But you know what...?
I haven't been in this thread for so long, but I noticed that there is no page I move through without reading some comments; such as: "may God protect them", "may God guide them", "let's pray for their freedom" and such...
Consciously or unconsiously, we all feel sympathy for them, though everything we know they might have done. So are we more merciful than the most merciful God who's kind to his creations than a mother to her own child...?

SORRY FOR TAKING UP SO MUCH.
AND IF YOU STILL HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK. ♡♡
 
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