Why Is Mgtow Growing?

Devin said:

i just don't get how someone managed to get into a fight with god is formless i mean he's pretty mild

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Well, thank you Devin.

At least you are one grateful person. God Bless

God_Is_Formless said:

Who said i wanted to be invited by them?

Seriously, you ladies assume too many things. And i'm not angry or hurtful or whatever. I just say the truth as best as i can.

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You said hell I wasn't invited by them

lol I'm not assuming I'm reading your posts

Anyway I think I'll just exit this and watch from the sidelines since I'm not a 'real muslim' according to you

Peace

And instead of apologising for calling me a weak Muslim he decides to like my comments

Classy.

oh wow i thought GIF was christian! hard to keep up with you all

Devin said:

go back through this entire thread HE DID NOT POST. YOU HAVE HIM MISTAKEN WITH SOMEONE ELSE. unless you are proposing that he deleted them?

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I'm going to go look now.. I thought he was the op. If not I do actually sincerely apologize but my comments were meant for The op.

And..

I stand corrected. OP's name starts with an H as well and I made a mistake. So I apologize @heyyor @Devin

heyyor said:

This sounds like an extreme example of shitthatdidnthappen.txt and the majority of this page of the thread has made me realize that way too many people on a truthseeking forum base their "truth" of an issue more on overly emotional reactions to things they don't like hearing, biases based on limited anecdotes, and immature irrationality due to personal experiences than they do due to critical and reasoned thinking based on actual research, factual statistics, historical social trends. Sad

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I know some people who have done the same thing. Definitely happens more often than people think. Men can be just as manipulative, if not more so when it comes to money, than women. There just hasn't been a lot of balance in studying this phenomenon because men have been writing the history books and dominating positions of authority until recently.

Things like this still happen; however, there are a lot more resources for women to educate themselves with when they do. This is the difference, and it is something to be grateful for and recognize, but it doesn't whitewash the reality that it does still happen.

justjess said:

And..

I stand corrected. OP's name starts with an H as well and I made a mistake. So I apologize @heyyor @Devin

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I almost did the same thing. They are both new. Their names both start with an H. They both seem to have the same opinion towards the subject.

rainerann said:

I almost did the same thing. They are both new. Their names both start with an H. They both seem to have the same opinion towards the subject.

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lol.. well calling me a liar off the bat certainly didn't help.

God_Is_Formless said:

I just say the truth as best as i can.

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The truth ≠ murder

rainerann said:

I almost did the same thing. They are both new. Their names both start with an H. They both seem to have the same opinion towards the subject.

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New? I joined a couple days before you. Same opinion towards the subject? What do you base that on?

This thread! Drama queens alert. Note to all that people will have differing opinions and nobody wants a world where we all think the same. We have discourse, calling posters out and all the stuff that makes for a drama-fest at work again. Leave emotion at the door and discuss, please. Way too much bashing over the head by folks to think like me or else... BTW, VC can handle posters on his own and needs nobody saying poster A and B are the same, etc beyond hints. Just because someone has differing views does not make them a former poster in hiding....although they are probably lurking

mecca said:

The truth ≠ murder

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Our perceptions differ.

May God Guide us all.

heyyor said:

New? I joined a couple days before you. Same opinion towards the subject? What do you base that on?

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I remember you being around and don't think you're playing the silly multiple posting personalities game.

heyyor said:

New? I joined a couple days before you. Same opinion towards the subject? What do you base that on?

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I only noticed your post count, not the day you joined and in your response that I replied to as well, you said that the statement wasn't true because it was based on emotion which is an argument that the MGTOW movement makes, am I correct? Women making baseless comments about men? MGTOW is what the opening post is about as well yes? Your comment seemed in line with this. I actually quoted the comment that I based this on as well and responded to it, so you should be able to access the post easily.

It was easy to confuse the two of you. I wasn't saying you were opening poster, just that it was easy to confuse you with the opening poster, which is what happened in fact.

Your name is Heyyor, the opening poster is Hero123 and you both have under a hundred posts. It would be easy to confuse the two. Not a big deal.

The Zone said:

I remember you being around and don't think you're playing the silly multiple posting personalities game.

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Did someone accuse him of being someone else and I missed it?

All I was referencing was my initial response to him where I confused him with the op because both were H names

Mgtow is just another fucked up form of identity politics. They are just creating dividing lines, and trying to carve out "territory". It's a primitive response, probably an archetype. Call it the scorned man. And I'm not saying these are bad guys, but they are unhealthy in the brain. The archetype has them, they are detached from their self.

A healthy mind moves on. Takes their losses, and doesn't hold a grudge. Because a healthy minded person knows their true self worth. They know nobody else's projection can change that. And there are groups that promote this kind of mentality, but we sorry folks. We are considered the occult.

rainerann said:

I only noticed your post count, not the day you joined and in your response that I replied to as well, you said that the statement wasn't true because it was based on emotion which is an argument that the MGTOW movement makes, am I correct? Women making baseless comments about men? MGTOW is what the opening post is about as well yes? Your comment seemed in line with this. I actually quoted the comment that I based this on as well and responded to it, so you should be able to access the post easily.

It was easy to confuse the two of you. I wasn't saying you were opening poster, just that it was easy to confuse you with the opening poster, which is what happened in fact.

Your name is Heyyor, the opening poster is Hero123 and you both have under a hundred posts. It would be easy to confuse the two. Not a big deal.

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What the heck man, I just wrote a long ass post and it got erased by accident.
Anyway, here goes another attempt at a big ol' wall o text: when I talked about emotional arguments I was talking about the tone of this thread in general when I skipped to the last page of it after reading most of the first page. I made that comment because it seemed that's all that was being offered in people's posts, I wasn't referring to anyone's gender or taking sides, though I guess it seemed that way to some people cuz I singled out JustJess's post, cuz it just seemed the most extreme example at the time.
All I really know about MGTOW is that they're dudes who've decided that relationships with women are too risky, so they have decided to shun any romantic entanglements and live without them. I couldn't imagine doing this myself. I love women, and being with them, as well as pursuing relations with them, whether short or long term.
I guess I would agree that family and divorce court is weighted more in favor of women, and some forms of feminism aren't healthy for harmonious relations between the sexes, but I don't see any benefit in just giving up on one of life's greatest pleasures because modern society is ill and corrupt in a lot of ways. In fact, I think it should serve as a prod to try to build better personal relations in one's own life. You may not be able to change society on a large scale, but you can change the micro society around you by building bonds with people you may come to love and who can come to be loyal friends/lovers/partners. Things will never get better by being bitterly antisocial and holding grudges, especially if that grudge is a life long one that is so large as to encompass the entire opposite sex.
And in the spirit of this: I apologize to JustJess for singling her out, I will gift her some likes as recompense, as well as some flirtatious banter if the situation is appropriate

I am in the same boat. I love women to no end. I saw part of this thread and certain posts and mixed up things I had seen elsewhere or on other threads. My comments were in no way about MGTOW but a general way in which some "at times" post.