Would you date a broke man?

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Dtrizzle2091

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Yes I do understand how systemic oppression works. I also understand that anything MACRO starts at the MICRO. Emulating your oppressors and taking on the traits you don’t like in them for yourself... what does that make you? My ideal world will never exist and you have about zero goddamn clue what it would even look like cuz you don’t know me. Right?

I’m a sell out for what? Being a strong woman who is capable and willing to take care of myself? Who chooses her partners (or really just partner) based on what we had in common and could build together rather then on the shitty hand he was dealt in life in compared to mine? If you don’t like the mirror being reflected back on you then don’t start conversations that you had to know would recieve the responses you got.

And yeah, I prefer men’s company. Sorry, not sorry. Women for some reason tend to be catty Passive aggressive and vindictive. I don’t have patience for it.


where the hell do you live that the minimum wage is 15$/hour and rent isn’t Atleast $1500 per month?
It’s called living within your means. Getting roommates. Not living in a two bedroom by yourself on minimum wage and saving your money.

Ps. I think you’re a pompous idiot. I really do. Don’t talk to me unless you fall from that high horse you’re on.
 

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My ideal world will never exist and you have about zero goddamn clue what it would even look like cuz you don’t know me. Right?
You also don't have a clue about what my ideal partner would look like since you don't know me either, right?

I’m a sell out for what? Being a strong woman who is capable and willing to take care of myself? Who chooses her partners (or really just partner) based on what we had in common and could build together rather then on the shitty hand he was dealt in life in compared to mine?
Posting on a forum where it's a majority (anti feminist) men that women are "catty, passive agressive and vindictive" (so clihé) and actively defending men makes you a sellout who's looking for brownie points from men.

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I mean.. that’s what women ask for isnt it? To be judged for who they are. Not their vaginas or bra size.
My problem is that you're implying that women should follow some code of conduct and hold ourselves to a higher standard and as a result men (the collective of men) will treat us as human beings. That if we love and respect our oppressor enough they will finally start reciprocate that love and respect and will stop seeing you as "a vagina and a bra size". That's stockholm syndrom, not liberation. Women aren't going to magically nice their way out of their oppressed position. Honestly I often see that attitude in pickemes like you who love their oppressors. As a woman, I'm constantly navigating spaces that weren't designed for me or my benefit. Not that you can't succeed if you are a woman but claiming that men and women are equal is just untrue. Men have been objectifying/raping/abusing women and girls for as long as they've been on earth.
 
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Come one, you're not that stupid. You understand damn well how systemic oppression works. You know women don't have the power to systemically oppress men or objectify them. You want to keep believeing in your ideal world where men and women are equal because you're a sellout, period.
You've admitted yourself you prefere men to women, so you're probably one of these pickmes who care more about coddling male ego than anything.
Im guessing that you also believe that no one can be racist towards white people too :) . Oppression changes as society progresses, at this point everyone in America is going, their just trying to ruin the male gender.

its sad actually
 

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You also don't have a clue about what my ideal partner would look like since you don't know me either, right?


Posting on a forum where it's a majority (anti feminist) men that women are "catty, passive agressive and vindictive" (so clihé) and actively defending men makes you a sellout who's looking for brownie points from men.

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I must say since I've seen a lot of misconceptions about teenage girls sleeping with older men. They(teenage girls) know what their doing from what I've seen , we are taught to stay way from older guys but they continue. Teenagers aren't stupid, their strategic, the guy will be in trouble then they will be assumed to be the victim.


Sure the guy is creepy for knowing her age and still sleeping with her which he should be jailed for but if there was consent then why is it labelled as r*pe. If she says "Yes" without being forced to then what?

Nobody deserves to be sexualy assaulted.
And also contrary to popular belief by feminists, you dress for other people, if you didn't you would walk out the way you are once you wake up. You obviously don't want to be seen as dirty. Now clothes define your character or what kind o person you are.

It determines your place in society. In all honesty teenage girls wear revealing clothes to attract boys to them and to impress their friends(, that's why they banned fun days from my school and strictly placed uniform.)sad....but true

Men aren't dogs who just want sex, they are humans too who have feelings. Just because you've had a plethera of instances with bad men doesn't make them all bad. Maybe it might just be you.....most of the time you are what you attract. The way you dress attracts a particular audience, the way you speak, walk and carry yourself attracts a particular audience.

If you dress in a short skirt you will obviously attract sex-driven guys. If you dress modestly you will attract more respectable dudes. Now there are acceptiins here too but that's just the majority.
 

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I personally think the financial stress is not worth it. I would rather stay alone and fend for myself than be with someone who's broke or earns less than I do. And besides from you, other people didn't give anecdotal evidence but rather emotional diatribes about assuming that a relationship where a man is higher earning is inevitably about exchanging sex for money. As if hetero dating was always like prostitution. Which it was, or is? because at the end of the day it's about exchanging the same things though, so it's really not that different. Or maybe times are changing slowly. But for a long time, women had no other choice to survive (they weren't allowed to work) than sell their body to a man=the socially acceptable form of prostiution which we call marriage. Or sell her body to several men, which was called as it is and was deemd degrading, then and now. It's a bleak picture but that's what it was (and still is in many different countries). Money has always been used as a way to keep women below men in society. Men have more access to high paying jobs. Navigating a male-dominated field is still very new for women, because until recently we were still relegated to subordinate jobs or being a housewife. Men having easier access to money, it makes sense that they should be the providers, until women are on an equal playing field.
One thing I noticed is there seems to be an anti-feminist (I don't really like to call myself a feminist because I don't want to be associated with white feminsts but I identify with feminism as a concept for female advencement) sentiment that's really pervasive on the VC forums, because they follow everything VC says. And since VC said feminism is bad, they will believe it without a second thought. But here is the thing, these radical women empowerement movement will never reach enough momentum to actually change anything because not enough women are joigning them. (At the end of the day, women can get raped, abused and harassed, they still want to believe the majority of men are intrinsically good.)
Prostituation= the occupation of sexual intercourse with someone for payment.

Marriage= a recognized union between two partners in a relationship.

How are these two different things, meaning the same thing to you?Not to mention that there are people who get married and don't even have sex.

Men get raped, abused and etc yet its barely even reported on the news. Remember Johnny Depp? People laughed at him for being abused yet when the wife came out she was celebrated.

It would be easier if both genders acknowledged their priveledges in society, specifically in America.
 

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Men get raped, abused and etc yet its barely even reported on the news.
They mostly get raped and abused by other men.
Men get raped, abused and etc yet its barely even reported on the news. Remember Johnny Depp? People laughed at him for being abused yet when the wife came out she was celebrated.
Jhonny Depp is listed at 5'9 and his wife was shorter and smaller than him. He could have easily overpowered her had she tried to hit him. I don't know for sure but it's more likely he was the abuser. He's an actor with much more money and a longer career than his wife, he could have easily paid the media for the smear campaign against his ex wife since her career has ended, while his is still thriving.
It would be easier if both genders acknowledged their priveledges in society, specifically in America.
You need to educate yourself on feminism. You don't come accross as really aware.
 
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They mostly get raped and abused by other men.
There are young boys who get raped and sexually assaulted by their aunts, even through male celebrities they discuss this and its brushed of which further shows the double standards. Even Chrissy Teigen is a p***phile. Its split equally honestly, its just that men are reported more.


Jhonny Depp is listed at 5'9 and his wife was shorter and smaller than him. He could have easily overpowered her had she tried to hit him. I don't know for sure but it's more likely he was the abuser. He's an actor with much more money and a longer career than his wife, he could have easily paid the media for the smear campaign against his ex wife since her career has ended, while his is still thrivi
So you have no sympathy for him? Just because someone is big doesn't mean they can't be overpowered, that's basic logic even in fights. The assumption was that his build was masculine yet she still abused him.

She took a dump on the bed even....that's rather gross
You need to educate yourself on feminism. You don't come off as really aware.
Feminisim is the advocacy of womens rights on equal grounds that both genders are equal.

You even said Johnny Depps wife was smaller than him. Male bodies are superior, they were built to protect, once you as a women equate yourself to being equal to a man then you can't complain when you don't get time off at work for being pregnant or get treated like a man.

Both genders aren't equal, we have different roles in life, men are providers, women are caregivers.

Now I do believe that if I put in the same amount of work at a work like a man we should be treated and paid equally. But my role as a female is different from a male and I can't and won't try to be a male.
 

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There are young boys who get raped and sexually assaulted by their aunts, even through male celebrities they discuss this and its brushed of which further shows the double standards. Even Chrissy Teigen is a p***phile. Its split equally honestly, its just that men are reported more.
Men and boys mostly get raped by men. Even amongst priests, there are tons of sexual assault cases in the catholic chuch where men r*pe underage boys. Men have proven time and time again that they cannot be trusted around underage boys and girls because of their predatory nature.
Every other day on reddit there posts like this : https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/ip5xds (the original poster said she deleted it because her brother saw it).


So you have no sympathy for him?
I don't have sympathy for abusers.
Both genders aren't equal, we have different roles in life, men are providers, women are caregivers.
If you claim that women are below men no wonder you don't identify with feminism.
Now I do believe that if I put in the same amount of work at a work like a man we should be treated and paid equally. But my role as a female is different from a male and I can't and won't try to be a male.
On one hand you say that women aren't equal to men (implying that women are below) but then go on and say that it's not fair if women aren't paid equally? You have to be consistent.
 
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Would you date a man who isn't financially well off or earns less than you do?
I'd prefer to date a "broke" man, if he's broke for the right reasons :). I'd be happy living in a shack with a husband and our children, so long as it was safe. I'm never happier than walking in free, local parks. "High living" is coffee and drugstore perfume.
 
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Hard work. In short bursts, and at prices I set, because I'm no sucker for wage slavery.

If you're good at what you do and you don't slack off, money just happens.

(And I'm definitely not wealthy anymore, but I can say I'm comfortable.
That's something to aspire to! Beyond a certain threshold (roof over head, warmth, water, food), an increase in material wealth no longer correlates with an increase in happiness.
 
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Hi guys hope everyone is well :)

Yes I have dated someone who was broke.I earned more than him too.He lost his job and I supported him throughout it all.I Paid rent,food well basically for everything.

He then found a new job and I thought things would get better but they actually got worse.He ended up finding a new girlfriend at his work place and stopped paying attention to me(Not engaging with me at all even though we were staying together) he got her pregnant too.Then one day when I got back from work he had packed everything and left me with an empty apartment:)

Dating a broke man comes with consequences but remember not all men are the same.Girls just be careful...
 

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I think the concept of being "broke" is a bit misleading. Basically someone can be poor, but not be overleveraged. And someone can be rich, and completely over-leveraged. In that sense, true wealth is measured by how much a person can spend on a day to day basis. Not by their yearly income.

If a dude makes 200k a year but spends 200k a year. That dude is "broke".
 

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Hi guys hope everyone is well :)

Yes I have dated someone who was broke.I earned more than him too.He lost his job and I supported him throughout it all.I Paid rent,food well basically for everything.

He then found a new job and I thought things would get better but they actually got worse.He ended up finding a new girlfriend at his work place and stopped paying attention to me(Not engaging with me at all even though we were staying together) he got her pregnant too.Then one day when I got back from work he had packed everything and left me with an empty apartment:)

Dating a broke man comes with consequences but remember not all men are the same.Girls just be careful...
jeez, broke and disrespectful. A terrible combo.
I'm sorry he did this to you.
 

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If a dude makes 200k a year but spends 200k a year. That dude is "broke".
ok but no one here said the opposite... whether soemone is broke because they have a shitty job, no job at all or because they aren't smart with their money, it's the same result...smh.
 
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ok but no one here said the opposite... whether soemone is broke because they have a shitty job, no job at all or because they aren't smart with their money, it's the same result...smh.
I think his point is just that someone who's responsible with money should be a better partner than someone who has a lot but who's wasteful. I'd tend to agree. I've known some hippie/punk couples that seemed pretty happy...they didn't have much, but they had just enough. The rest was just about sharing effort in finding resources... sharing tasks and responsibilities created a similar strain, even with money only minimally involved, so I think working well as a team towards shared goals and survival is what makes the difference. Anyway, I'm sure you realize money isn't the only resource, and it could apply to any other shared resources, but I think people are sticking to a money centric paradigm because of the word "broke" in the title. That was kinda my initial reaction too. (Don't tell that guy who thinks I'm a communist that I've hung out with people who lived in communes lol)
 

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ok but no one here said the opposite... whether soemone is broke because they have a shitty job, no job at all or because they aren't smart with their money, it's the same result...smh.
You implied in your original question that a man should be "well off". As in, has a high yearly income. You didn't ask about dating someone who was "smart" with money.
 

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Topic title- Would you date a broke man?
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Or, from another angle, would a man date a broke woman?
Speaking personally I would without batting an eye, because my soppy protective instinct would kick in and I'd want to look after her. And if she was a bit fed up and lonely so much the better because my soppy instinct would then be firing on all cylinders..:)

 
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