Fatal Stabbing In Portland - White Supremacy And Islamaphobia

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I've been trying to find out the exact details of the attack, and I haven't found them. It all happened within 10 minutes, and it happened at 4:30. This leads me to believe this was predestined. Because the symbolism is very obvious. 1 meaning God. 4+3 = 7 meaning 7 levels of consciousness. 7 levels of heaven\hell, pick your myth. Plus it happened on a train. Um, hello?
Predestined by whom? And I don't mean the Almighty!
 

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Come on, now. We all have our triggers-this is why we have the flaming happening in the Muslim vs. Christian threads. She was not here for the recent mud slinging.
Sometimes it's best to turn the other cheek. It's ok to defend you faith but the bickering just gets old. There isn't anything in this world that will convert me to Islam, their point of view is so different it's just really not worth the argument because they're not going to change their mind. I was told Adam and Eve didn't sin so since then I don't even try to engage in those conversations.
 

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Come on, now. We all have our triggers-this is why we have the flaming happening in the Muslim vs. Christian threads. She was not here for the recent mud slinging.
But she and her kind certainly laid the seeds for the constant bickering. There are other ignorant individuals on this board that ruin discussions but I won't name them because I don't think they themselves know how illogical inept they really are.
 

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Sometimes it's best to turn the other cheek. It's ok to defend you faith but the bickering just gets old. There isn't anything in this world that will convert me to Islam, their point of view is so different it's just really not worth the argument because they're not going to change their mind. I was told Adam and Eve didn't sin so since then I don't even try to engage in those conversations.
Who told you Adam and Eve didn't sin? All humans sin that's why we're humans. But they way Muslims look at sin and the way Christians look at sin is fundamentally different. There's a reason why I converted to Islam ;)
 

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Who told you Adam and Eve didn't sin? All humans sin that's why we're humans. But they way Muslims look at sin and the way Christians look at sin is fundamentally different. There's a reason why I converted to Islam ;)
God is formless, he said it was an error not sin. I agree that humans are sinful
 

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lol idk. I don't want to speculate that much about the unseen. But maybe a cultist, or some satanic wizard. Mk Ultra brainwashing with demonology?

Here is something of interest:
https://nodisinfo.com/
And:
(video of Mike Cernovich call-in show; caller has personal experience with Portland stabber@ 53:28 min.)
 
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God is formless, he said it was an error not sin. I agree that humans are sinful
What's the difference between an error and a sin?

Just so you know I believe that humans have the capacity to sin just as they have the capacity, not to sin but it doesn't mean I believe they gravitate towards sin.

This is the News section so just ignore everything I said because I don't want to turn every section into a religious one. If you're still interested in this topic you can make a thread and I'll see you there or you can always pm me.

Peace be upon you.
 

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I never said terrorism was apart of Islam. Maybe you've misunderstood me but I don't think Muslims are terrorists. I think making a thread about some psycho killing people and then saying he's one your guys is dumb. It's the same as saying ISIS is the same as you and other Muslims in this forum. People were scared of Irish terrorists in the 80s I think? That's before my time but I remember learning about it. the point is that anyone can be a terrorist if they choose to be regardless of their ethnicity, culture, or religion.
I agree completely @Violette and thank you for noticing.. that was the whole point of the thread - that maybe someone would notice how incredibly dumb it actually is
 
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Ugh..

Look, lots of speculation about my motives here and my ONLY MOTIVE was to show how incredibly stupid it is to assume all people who claim a religion and do stupid horrible things are actually representative of the religion they claim to represent.

This guys facebook clearly shows him celebrating Christmas - which is a Christian holiday like it or not - and calling himself a fundamentalist.

Blaming Christianity for what he did is completely asinine. He is technically a Christian terrorist though since both words accurately describe who he is. Just as blaming Islam for these psychopathic terrorist murderers is completely asinine. The same way christians can disavow this guy - and we can all say yeah ok no problem this guy sucks he can hold the blame himself or with his KKK MASTERS (kkk = cult like isis which perverts a religion to recruit vulnerable angry young men) - muslims should be able to disavow the evil people who they feel don't represent their own beliefs and religions.

I was hoping by having their own religion in the spotlight the same way muslims have been here ad nauseum over the last few months some people might wake up and see why their words and posts cause offense and distress. Apparantly that's not going to happen. Worth a shot.

The men who died trying to stand up to this scumbag are ACTUAL representatives of whatever faith they follow and honestly even if their atheists imo actual representatives of what followers of any faith should be.
 

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well put
Ugh..

Look, lots of speculation about my motives here and my ONLY MOTIVE was to show how incredibly stupid it is to assume all people hi claim a religion and do stupid horrible things are actually representative of the religion they claim to represent.

This guys facebook clearly shows him celebrating Christmas - which is a Christian holiday like it or not - and calling himself a fundamentalist.

Blaming Christianity for what he did is completely asinine. He is technically a Christian terrorist though since both words accurately describe who he is. Just as blaming Islam for these psychopathic terrorist murderers is completely asinine. The same way christians can disavow this guy - and we can all say yeah ok no problem this guy sucks he can hold the blame himself or with his KKK MASTERS (kkk = cult like isis which perverts a religion to recruit vulnerable angry young men) - muslims should be able to disavow the evil people who they feel don't represent their own beliefs and religions.

I was hoping by having their own religion in the spotlight the same way muslims have been here ad nauseous over the last few months some people might wake up and see why their words and posts cause offense and distress. Apparantly that's not going to happen. Worth a shot.

The men who died trying to stand up to this scumbag are ACTUAL representatives of whatever faith they follow and honestly even if their atheists imo actual representatives of what followers of any faith should be.
 
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Every time I posted about my beliefs when I first started posting not long ago Godisformless would constantly come after beliefs which I found pretty annoying.
Well, i am sorry. I just delivered a message just as my username suggests. My apologies if you felt annoyed.

There's Only One Truth Though.
 
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I was told Adam and Eve didn't sin so since then I don't even try to engage in those conversations.
But they didn't sin. You only believe that they did because you were taught about the original ''sin'' and Jesus coming to save us all.

You can't know that for sure since there are people who are defending them while you're dishonoring them. At least leave room for doubt.
 
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It's ok, I know you mean well. There's just nothing that will change my core beliefs
And i never intended to change anyone's beliefs. We're on a forum. Everybody's pretty much anonymous here.

I just say what i think and believe without wanting to offend anybody. The truth's just the truth. There's none like unto God Almighty.
 
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I can't compel anybody into becoming like me. You are free. You have the choice.

I am not existing on my own now, am i? Everything's being Maintained in existence by The Almighty Creator at each and every moment.

It's pretty much understandable that we're all here to help each other at least towards truth and patience. I can only be honest and truthful.
 

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But they didn't sin. You only believe that they did because you were taught about the original ''sin'' and Jesus coming to save us all.

You can't know that for sure since there are people who are defending them while you're dishonoring them. At least leave room for doubt.
They disobeyed explicit directions from God. That's sin. It's not like the directions were unclear.
 
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They disobeyed explicit directions from God. That's sin. It's not like the directions were unclear.
It was due to simple error. It was their first mistake. And Satan got to Adam through Eve. We are no better than them Chosen ones.

It's not like you have proof of it being a sin whereas i'm saying they only erred. It was meant to be that way since we have to be tested too.
 
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They disobeyed explicit directions from God. That's sin. It's not like the directions were unclear.
Only God Can Judge. I prefer leaving it all up to Him. And if that helps my case, i desire that they may be forgiven at least.

And God Almighty Certainly Knows Best.
 
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