Not everyone who saith unto me Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;

KingKanti · Mar 4, 2020

but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Matt 7:21)

I’m an old member from the 2009 version of Vigilant Citizen forums. Shout out to my brother in Christ Daciple! Hope all has been well with everyone. Something I wanted to really share with those of us who profess the name Christ Jesus as our Lord. This is something that the Lord really etched into me that I couldn’t shake. There will be many who call Jesus Christ their Lord but are not doing the will of His/Our Father in heaven for their/our lives. We must seek to do His will for our lives to make it. It’s not an easy topic but the walk with Jesus Christ is hard and difficult,He says we must strive to enter in at the narrow and strait gate for many will come to Him in that day from the north south east and west and will not be able to enter in. I had to ask our Father in heaven what His will was for me seriously because I don’t want to play around and I don’t intend to Lord myself over you my brethren in Christ but I believe it is a wise thing to seek the Lord on this matter for your life and salvation individually. We must work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. God bless you and Jesus Christ loves you and will see you through, let’s keep one another in prayer for we can do all things through Jesus Christ who strengthens us!!!!

floss · Mar 4, 2020

If every believer pray and ask the Father for His will, then mostly likely we will have different answers. Instead, we need to use the word of God to lay out His will.

“For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:38-40‬ ‭KJV‬‬

AspiringSoul · Mar 4, 2020

i thought anyone who professes that Jesus iz me lord n saviour is saved?

Thunderian · Mar 5, 2020

AspiringSoul said:
i thought anyone who professes that Jesus iz me lord n saviour is saved?

They are.

Rom 10:9

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Believeth unto righteousness means that we are saved by our faith in the fact that Jesus Christ died for our sins. God saves us because of our faith. Nothing else we ever do can count toward -- or against -- our salvation.

Eph 2:8

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:9

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

We are eternally saved the moment we believe, and our filthy flesh is cut away from the new man, who is in Christ. The Holy Spirit lives in our new man, sealing our souls permanently.

Jhn 14:16

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Jhn 14:17

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

By scripture, there is no act, or work, by which we can gain salvation. So it must stand that there is no work by which we can lose salvation, either. This is reinforced by the gift of the Holy Spirit, who seals us forever unto redemption. There is no way we can break the seal of the Holy Spirit. We cannot lose our salvation.

Any other teaching about salvation is ignorant, at best, and deceptive at worst. I know you don't care about this, but it's important, and can't be repeated enough. Once we are saved, we belong to Jesus Christ, and he never lets us go.

phipps · Mar 5, 2020

@KingKanti

Exactly. We have to do God's will which is to obey Him or we won't be saved. The gift of salvation is free but the Bible says there are conditions to be saved and one of them is obedience/doing God's will. God does not promise eternal life to those who merely make a profession of faith, are church members or are baptized, but rather to those who do His will, which is revealed in Scripture. The kind of obedience God wants of us is only possible through Him. Anyone who says different is lying and preaching a gospel not of God.

And it doesn't matter how sincere these people are, Paul was sincere and zealous when he persecuted Christians before his conversion, but he was also wrong (Acts 22:3-4; 26:9–11). The truth of God matters very much. Sincerity on its own is not and never will be enough.

You're right we have to seek the Lord to reveal the truth on this matter to us all.

Red Sky at Morning · Mar 5, 2020

@KingKanti

Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

My questions -

In what day will that be?

Who will the Lord be addressing?

Who will be calling Jesus “Lord”?

phipps · Mar 5, 2020

Thunderian said:
They are.

Rom 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Believeth unto righteousness means that we are saved by our faith in the fact that Jesus Christ died for our sins. God saves us because of our faith. Nothing else we ever do can count toward -- or against -- our salvation.

Eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

We are eternally saved the moment we believe, and our filthy flesh is cut away from the new man, who is in Christ. The Holy Spirit lives in our new man, sealing our souls permanently.

Jhn 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Jhn 14:17
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

By scripture, there is no act, or work, by which we can gain salvation. So it must stand that there is no work by which we can lose salvation, either. This is reinforced by the gift of the Holy Spirit, who seals us forever unto redemption. There is no way we can break the seal of the Holy Spirit. We cannot lose our salvation.

Any other teaching about salvation is ignorant, at best, and deceptive at worst. I know you don't care about this, but it's important, and can't be repeated enough. Once we are saved, we belong to Jesus Christ, and he never lets us go.

According to Scripture (as you've pointed out), we all need salvation because we have all sinned. Salvation is a gift from God that we receive by grace. Jesus took the punishment for our sins upon Himself so we could be saved. We can never add anything to what Jesus did for us on the cross. This saving grace is wonderful news. But does it free us from obedience to God’s law? No. In fact, grace establishes the law.

Romans 3:31, "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law."

Being saved by grace does not mean that we can disobey God and if we do get away with it. If I break the law (sin) and I am caught and taken to court, and the evidence brought before the judge (Jesus) proves I am guilty beyond reasonable doubt but he pardons me anyway (grace), does that mean its okay for me to go on and break the law again after that? No! In fact the judge will probably say something like, "I am giving you a second chance. Don't do it again. Sort your life out and stop breaking the law or next time you could end up in prison." That is what Paul is saying. Just because we are saved by grace does not mean we can go on to break the law.

So it is by grace that we are saved, delivered from sin, justified, restored, and sanctified. On one hand, grace sets right our relationship with God. On the other hand, the law tells us what sin is so that we may avoid it by the grace of God. A true conversion will fill the heart with gratitude and the restored person will want to live in harmony with the law of God.

To choose Christ is to choose obedience. We accept the gift of salvation and submit to Him and all that He asks of us which is to do His will. “If you love Me, keep My commandments. He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.” (John 14:15, 21).

Salvation is more than just accepting Christ as our personal Saviour (that is a start). Jesus Himself demonstrated this while He was here on earth and made it clear that we must obey with His Words too. Are you going to reject them all?

We need to accept that salvation is an inherently complex subject and there is more to it that what your false doctrine says. It is a subject that we'll study eternally. Its a subject that is a lot more interconnected than we often make it out to be. Salvation involves, Obedience, Love, The grace of God, Faith in Jesus, The Faith OF Jesus, Repentance and various other things that I have not mentioned. They all come together to be part of the equation of salvation.

Biblically salvation will never be about always being saved regardless of what we do. As long as the law still stands (and Jesus said it does and He too obeyed it), we will have to obey God's commandments. If we don't, we won't make it. There is no such thing in the Bible as anyone's sin being excused just because they once accepted Christ's free gift of salvation. They have to obey as Christ did.

“Faith without works is dead” (James 2:20).

Thunderian · Mar 5, 2020

phipps said:
According to Scripture (as you've pointed out), we all need salvation because we have all sinned. Salvation is a gift from God that we receive by grace. Jesus took the punishment for our sins upon Himself so we could be saved. We can never add anything to what Jesus did for us on the cross. This saving grace is wonderful news. But does it free us from obedience to God’s law? No. In fact, grace establishes the law.

Romans 3:31, "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law."

Being saved by grace does not mean that we can disobey God and if we do get away with it. If I break the law (sin) and I am caught and taken to court, and the evidence brought before the judge (Jesus) proves I am guilty beyond reasonable doubt but he pardons me anyway (grace), does that mean its okay for me to go on and break the law again after that? No! In fact the judge will probably say something like, "I am giving you a second chance. Don't do it again. Sort your life out and stop breaking the law or next time you could end up in prison." That is what Paul is saying. Just because we are saved by grace does not mean we can go on to break the law.

So it is by grace that we are saved, delivered from sin, justified, restored, and sanctified. On one hand, grace sets right our relationship with God. On the other hand, the law tells us what sin is so that we may avoid it by the grace of God. A true conversion will fill the heart with gratitude and the restored person will want to live in harmony with the law of God.

To choose Christ is to choose obedience. We accept the gift of salvation and submit to Him and all that He asks of us which is to do His will. “If you love Me, keep My commandments. He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.” (John 14:15, 21).

Salvation is more than just accepting Christ as our personal Saviour (that is a start). Jesus Himself demonstrated this while He was here on earth and made it clear that we must obey with His Words too. Are you going to reject them all?

We need to accept that salvation is an inherently complex subject and there is more to it that what your false doctrine says. It is a subject that we'll study eternally. Its a subject that is a lot more interconnected than we often make it out to be. Salvation involves, Obedience, Love, The grace of God, Faith in Jesus, The Faith OF Jesus, Repentance and various other things that I have not mentioned. They all come together to be part of the equation of salvation.

Biblically salvation will never be about always being saved regardless of what we do. As long as the law still stands (and Jesus said it does and He too obeyed it), we will have to obey God's commandments. If we don't, we won't make it. There is no such thing in the Bible as anyone's sin being excused just because they once accepted Christ's free gift of salvation. They have to obey as Christ did.

“Faith without works is dead” (James 2:20).

So if a person is not perfect, they lose their salvation?

Douglas Summers · Mar 5, 2020

phipps said:
Romans 3:31, "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law."

We establish the Law by letting the law do what it was intended to do, and that was to condemn sin in sinful man. The law was never a means to salvation, it was a law of condemnation. For without the law, I was not convicted of sin. But in Christ Jesus, we are not under the penalty of sin condemned by the Law. The law was brought by Moses, but Grace and Truth by Jesus Christ....There is no man that can keep the law except Jesus Christ. So, I am not lawless, but under the law of Christ, for if I claim the law, then Christ is no avail to me. But now the New Covenant, the law is written in my heart, and that law is to love the Lord thy God with all your heart, mind and soul and your neighbor as the same. 1 Cor. Chapter 13. Read it, it says, what ever deeds I do in the flesh are unprofitable, unless it is done in love. You can not confuse Law with Grace, They are opposites.

Red Sky at Morning · Mar 5, 2020

Red Sky at Morning said:
@KingKanti

Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

My questions -

In what day will that be?

Who will the Lord be addressing?

Who will be calling Jesus “Lord”?

Perhaps a clue to the above?

AspiringSoul · Mar 6, 2020

Thunderian said:
They are.

Rom 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Believeth unto righteousness means that we are saved by our faith in the fact that Jesus Christ died for our sins. God saves us because of our faith. Nothing else we ever do can count toward -- or against -- our salvation.

Eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

We are eternally saved the moment we believe, and our filthy flesh is cut away from the new man, who is in Christ. The Holy Spirit lives in our new man, sealing our souls permanently.

Jhn 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Jhn 14:17
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

By scripture, there is no act, or work, by which we can gain salvation. So it must stand that there is no work by which we can lose salvation, either. This is reinforced by the gift of the Holy Spirit, who seals us forever unto redemption. There is no way we can break the seal of the Holy Spirit. We cannot lose our salvation.

Any other teaching about salvation is ignorant, at best, and deceptive at worst. I know you don't care about this, but it's important, and can't be repeated enough. Once we are saved, we belong to Jesus Christ, and he never lets us go.

When Paul wrote the epistle to the Romans, he wasn't talking to you. Different time, different church, different context.

Jesus made it very clear when he said 'not everyone who comes to me saying 'lord lord' will be saved.

My argument is that if you have the incorrect belief concerning him, then you are not connected to him as per Paul's teachings and hence Jesus saying 'i will say to them 'get away from me, i never KNEW you' '

so let's look at the things you quoted

Rom 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

-where it says Lord Jesus' here is offensive, it should say 'lord Jesus' because he is adoni, not Adonai, as per Psalm 110 which Jesus quoted. So each time a christian says 'LORD Jesus' whilst thinking the word Lord means God, he/she is comitting disbelief and cannot be connected with Jesus.
-God has raised him from the dead....and yet you believe he is God. In fact chapters like Isaiah 53 connected with this theme even call him God's SERVANT/ABD.
Yet most christians have this idea of 'we are sons not slaves' but do not understand how this comes about. This sonship only comes about when a person overcomes their personal Self and unites with the universal Self, that is...the LOGOS itself. Yet most christians dont even know what Logos means, it's origins etc..and hence they do not know what Jesus represents as it's incarnation.
So for example the concept of God's Immanence...implies that God is Immanent in ALL things, hence the Logos which represents Universal consciousness, has to represent the Immanence of God. Jesus as the incarnation of the Logos, becomes the embodiment of God's Immanence. Yet he isn't God. It means God is in him, but he is not God. God is in all things..and that too is something both Jesus and Paul highlighted when Jesus said 'make your eye single' (ie to see God in ALL) and 'to the pure all things are pure'.
Furthermore, Jesus is not equal to the Transcendent Father. it is the Father, the Essence manifest on the macrocosmic level and microcosmic level that animates and gives power to all things..hence Jesus is also 'nothing' in that sense..and again it's something Jesus highlights when he says 'The son can do NOTHING' and 'not even the Son knows the last hour' (not the exact words).
The trinitarian doctrine is a foolish doctrine that appeared centuries later, it is effectively a piss poor interpretation of concepts these people did not understand the way the original authors had. Remember, Plotinus had his version of the trinity (which btw i accept) and that influence St Augustine which led to the church later adopting it in their own manner.
Literalism is the problem, even in islam we have literalists of both kinds, we have the right wing puritanical wahabi and we have the left wing absolutely warped false sufis. Judaism was the same, it had sadducees and pharisees. Christianity is under the influence of literalists who took mystical concepts and turned them literal.
for example look at John 1:1 it has 2 different contradictory statements. one is logical, the other is mystical. The christians base their belief on the mystical part of this...yet turn it into a literal statement. only the logical statements are literal. The mystical ones arent literal. For example, if you can perceive God's Immanence in a tree, that doesnt mean the tree is literally God.
If your fundamental beliefs are wrong, then it explains why Jesus will reject many who believe in him, otherwise it's contradictory.

Thunderian · Mar 6, 2020

AspiringSoul said:
When Paul wrote the epistle to the Romans, he wasn't talking to you. Different time, different church, different context.

Jesus made it very clear when he said 'not everyone who comes to me saying 'lord lord' will be saved.

My argument is that if you have the incorrect belief concerning him, then you are not connected to him as per Paul's teachings and hence Jesus saying 'i will say to them 'get away from me, i never KNEW you' '

so let's look at the things you quoted

Rom 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

-where it says Lord Jesus' here is offensive, it should say 'lord Jesus' because he is adoni, not Adonai, as per Psalm 110 which Jesus quoted. So each time a christian says 'LORD Jesus' whilst thinking the word Lord means God, he/she is comitting disbelief and cannot be connected with Jesus.
-God has raised him from the dead....and yet you believe he is God. In fact chapters like Isaiah 53 connected with this theme even call him God's SERVANT/ABD.
Yet most christians have this idea of 'we are sons not slaves' but do not understand how this comes about. This sonship only comes about when a person overcomes their personal Self and unites with the universal Self, that is...the LOGOS itself. Yet most christians dont even know what Logos means, it's origins etc..and hence they do not know what Jesus represents as it's incarnation.
So for example the concept of God's Immanence...implies that God is Immanent in ALL things, hence the Logos which represents Universal consciousness, has to represent the Immanence of God. Jesus as the incarnation of the Logos, becomes the embodiment of God's Immanence. Yet he isn't God. It means God is in him, but he is not God. God is in all things..and that too is something both Jesus and Paul highlighted when Jesus said 'make your eye single' (ie to see God in ALL) and 'to the pure all things are pure'.
Furthermore, Jesus is not equal to the Transcendent Father. it is the Father, the Essence manifest on the macrocosmic level and microcosmic level that animates and gives power to all things..hence Jesus is also 'nothing' in that sense..and again it's something Jesus highlights when he says 'The son can do NOTHING' and 'not even the Son knows the last hour' (not the exact words).
The trinitarian doctrine is a foolish doctrine that appeared centuries later, it is effectively a piss poor interpretation of concepts these people did not understand the way the original authors had. Remember, Plotinus had his version of the trinity (which btw i accept) and that influence St Augustine which led to the church later adopting it in their own manner.
Literalism is the problem, even in islam we have literalists of both kinds, we have the right wing puritanical wahabi and we have the left wing absolutely warped false sufis. Judaism was the same, it had sadducees and pharisees. Christianity is under the influence of literalists who took mystical concepts and turned them literal.
for example look at John 1:1 it has 2 different contradictory statements. one is logical, the other is mystical. The christians base their belief on the mystical part of this...yet turn it into a literal statement. only the logical statements are literal. The mystical ones arent literal. For example, if you can perceive God's Immanence in a tree, that doesnt mean the tree is literally God.
If your fundamental beliefs are wrong, then it explains why Jesus will reject many who believe in him, otherwise it's contradictory.

lol no

Kung Fu · Mar 6, 2020

AspiringSoul said:
i thought anyone who professes that Jesus iz me lord n saviour is saved?

The verse in the OP says one thing and then Thunderian posts verses saying another thing lol.

Are these Christians saved or not saved. Talk about confusing.

Lisa · Mar 6, 2020

Kung Fu said:
The verse in the OP says one thing and then Thunderian posts verses saying another thing lol.

Are these Christians saved or not saved. Talk about confusing.

How many good works does the muslim need to be saved?

Thunderian · Mar 6, 2020

Kung Fu said:
The verse in the OP says one thing and then Thunderian posts verses saying another thing lol.

Are these Christians saved or not saved. Talk about confusing.

You must know there is a disagreement between Christians who believe that the Bible teaches that salvation is once and for all time, and those who think that you can swing in and out of grace, like a Catholic priest on Fire Island.

Serveto · Mar 6, 2020

Kung Fu said:
The verse in the OP says one thing and then Thunderian posts verses saying another thing lol.

Are these Christians saved or not saved. Talk about confusing.

Furthermore, once they are saved are they always saved? As a careful reading of this thread {click here} will show, practically every vocal Christian on this board is deceived except @Lisa

. I could name names and their doctrinal deceptions, according to her litmus test, but I won't. They know who they are (and so, I suspect, does she).

Warning! Out of context:

"that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine ..."
Ephesians 4:14, KJV

I am starting to think that I might have been an Ephesian in one of my possible if not probable past lives. Whenever I read these seemingly endless discussions between and among sola scriptura Bible believers concerning such issues as "grace vs. law or grace and law" and "once saved always saved (or not)," I get tossed to and fro by winds of what prove to be, ironically, for the most part Pauline doctrines.

For instance, I read Christian A's argument and I think, "yes, that sounds right." And then I read his or her detractor, Christian B's, with a diametrically opposite view, and I think, "yes, that sounds right." I would guess, and only a guess it is, that it is probably from such internal, conflicting and apparently irreconcilable chatter as this that George Orwell devised the concept of "doublethink," secularized it, and incorporated it into his famous novel, Nineteen Eighty-Four.

Thunderian · Mar 6, 2020

If we don’t gain salvation by works, how do we keep it by works?

Galatians 3:3 (KJV)
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

floss · Mar 6, 2020

ETERNAL life can be lost, must be the most ridiculous thing people believe. If one can lose something that is ETERNAL, it must simply mean they never had it.

"I used to have eternal life 10 years ago but due to my great sins, I no longer have eternal life"

Red Sky at Morning · Mar 6, 2020

Serveto said:
Furthermore, once they are saved are they always saved? As a careful reading of this thread {click here} will show, practically every vocal Christian on this board is deceived except @Lisa . I could name names and their doctrinal deceptions, according to her litmus test, but I won't. They know who they are (and so, I suspect, does she).

Warning! Out of context:

"that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine ..."
Ephesians 4:14, KJV

I am starting to think that I might have been an Ephesian in one of my possible if not probable past lives. Whenever I read these seemingly endless discussions between and among sola scriptura Bible believers concerning such issues as "grace vs. law or grace and law" and "once saved always saved (or not)," I get tossed to and fro by winds of what prove to be, ironically, for the most part Pauline doctrines.

For instance, I read Christian A's argument and I think, "yes, that sounds right." And then I read his or her detractor, Christian B's, with a diametrically opposite view, and I think, "yes, that sounds right." I would guess, and only a guess it is, that it is probably from such internal, conflicting and apparently irreconcilable chatter as this that George Orwell devised the concept of "doublethink," secularized it, and incorporated it into his famous novel, Nineteen Eighty-Four.

I think in truth @Serveto the question alluded to in the OP is rather like attending a university and being primarily concerned with the idea of whether a student who does no work and lives at the bar will still be awarded a degree!!!

We are here for more than that, which is why I think Paul penned these words in Philippians 3...

12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. 13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

In the university context, I read this as being rather like saying “forgetting past failed papers, I press on to try to gain first class honours”.

People drive particularly badly when they keep their eyes fixed on the rear-view mirror!

Serveto · Mar 6, 2020

Thunderian said:
You must know there is a disagreement between Christians who believe that the Bible teaches that salvation is once and for all time, and those who think that you can swing in and out of grace, like a Catholic priest on Fire Island.

I'm still lol. That is as insightful as it is funny!

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