Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

Hon33

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Sorry for interrupting your conversation, but I couldn't help myself from replying your comment.
You said "having a sex relationship before marriage isn't a big thing"? If is it so, then why do you think a global satanic organization such as illuminati considers "sex" as a basic practice of their rituals?

Riligiouns aren't soccer teams you have to be fanatic of one of them, they are simply rules guide us to make right decisions and help us to get through bad times in our life, that's why you find "sex before marriage" in most of these religiouns as a forbidden action which is why illuminati strives to erase any riligious aspect in the world so they can spread their filthy practices freely with no single obstacle in their way.

I agree with you that sex is a natural need for any creature in the world, but we surpass all the creatures by our great intelligence so we aren't supposed to have sex as randomly as wild animals do because we are far more significant than that.

If Chen was going to marry her any way, then why didn't he before sleeping with her? Don't you conclude some key point from this question?
Absolutely, I see what you are saying.
For many religions, sex outside of marriage is unacceptable. However, if this couple don’t necessarily follow a particular religion, then they may not see the need to stick to the rule. There may be all kinds of reasons why he didn’t marry her before having sex. In the past, fans have reacted angrily to idols having relationships. He may have felt that as long as he was in Exo, he would not be able to marry. Further, he probably thought it wouldn’t be ideal to marry before going off to complete his military service. The average age in South Korea for a man to marry is 31. That’s quite high compared to some other cultures. I would imagine it’s maybe quite unusual to get married at a younger age. in fact, many South Koreans today are choosing not to marry at all.
These are all reasons why he may not have wanted to marry yet or didn’t think it acceptable to.
It might not be ideal to have sex outside marriage, but I don’t think it’s unusual at his age that he did. Within a loving, consensual relationship sex isn’t wrong or filthy. It is a perfectly natural expression of a couple's feelings for each other. This may be the only sexual partner he has ever had, or it may not be. We don’t know that.
Yes, it’s good to discourage sexual immorality but we also have to be careful to teach people that it isn’t something wrong or dirty. Wanting to have that kind of relationship at his age, is perfectly normal. In any other culture he may well have been married already.
It’s unfair to expect these idols to remain single for their fans. Everyone needs friendships and love in their lives. He shouldn’t have to hide that out if fear of what his fans may think.
 

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In what way am I derailing the thread?
Oh and while we’re on the subject of stupid, you don’t even know the correct definition of adultery!
In many sects of Christianity, she's right. Having premarital sex is considered adultery because you're taking that away from your future husband, unless you end up marrying the person you first had sex with. So, no, she's not wrong, nor is she stupid.
 

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In many sects of Christianity, she's right. Having premarital sex is considered adultery because you're taking that away from your future husband, unless you end up marrying the person you first had sex with. So, no, she's not wrong, nor is she stupid.
Well I’m sorry. In terms of Christian teaching it is not adultery - no matter who has taught her or you it is. Adultery occurs when a a married person has relations with another person (married or otherwise) WHILE they are married. That is the definition of adultery. Any other teaching is incorrect.
Scripture does nevertheless teach that sex should take place within marriage.
If this guy has no religious belief then he will not necessarily agree with that teaching, do for him it won’t matter.
I mean let’s face it, what is the point on anyone here worrying about the morality of having sex before marriage when you’re willing to take part in immoral acts such as speculating that people carry out for example, human sacrifice with absolutely no evidence. You do understand that in God’s eyes, a sin is a sin?
You are all guilty of hypocrisy, at the very least!
 
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I think Jongdae are no more in EXO

I was talking about him existing the group in other website, and the white Ifans bashed me hardly, called me all kind of names lol, let them now deal with this,...I like seeing them so pissed..they believe Korea is there property lol..Kfans will teach them a lesson
 

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I think Jongdae are no more in EXO

I was talking about him existing the group in other website, and the white Ifans bashed me hardly, called me all kind of names lol, let them now deal with this,...I like seeing them so pissed..they believe Korea is there property lol..Kfans will teach them a lesson
Just so I know what you mean, do you think she should leave? I’m not arguing, I’m just asking what you think.
 

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Guys, please, this is not a political or a religious (per se) thread, so let's try to keep our views on those matters as neutral as possible. In my opinion, pre marital sex is perfectly fine (within reason) and there is no reason for people to demonize it, since it's as natural as the rest of bodily functions. Of course there is a spiritual aspect to it, but not everyone is religious/spiritual. But I don't follow any organized religion so that's only my point of view. Of course there would be different views on this and they must all be respected in the same way but let's respect them equally without pushing our opinions on others. I am glad that so many people here, who have totally different backgrounds, came on to this site to discuss further their concerns, but it would be better to stick to the subject, which is kp0p, just my 2 cents.
 
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Do you believe he has let his fans down?
Sorry I distract your reply to her... But I don't think he has let his fans down... I mean, the fans are too hyperbolic to love him. He is human and needs to love someone else... Not just thinking about his fans... He has his life too, but the fans are mad because he is getting married with someone... I just think like that
 

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^^ I agree pre martial sex occurs all the time. It's normal not satanic lol.

Also I don't think he let his fans down but, apparently in Korea they think so. The culture is very strict especially with idols so I think to them he let them down. But to many ifans they're happy for him because he is old and should be able to marry and have children.
 

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^^ I agree pre martial sex occurs all the time. It's normal not satanic lol.

Also I don't think he let his fans down but, apparently in Korea they think so. The culture is very strict especially with idols so I think to them he let them down. But to many ifans they're happy for him because he is old and should be able to marry and have children.
Do you think it’s just the Korean fans who are displeased with him or Kpop fans in general? I have seen positive and negative comments on Twitter, for example, but most have been positive. I too think he deserves to be happy.
I am curious if any of you mould my mind answering, how his plans to marry his girlfriend and raise the baby together fit into the overall idea of agenda of the illuminati, for example. Is this what you would expect of him?
 

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^^ I agree pre martial sex occurs all the time. It's normal not satanic lol.

Also I don't think he let his fans down but, apparently in Korea they think so. The culture is very strict especially with idols so I think to them he let them down. But to many ifans they're happy for him because he is old and should be able to marry and have children.
Concerning the religion, yes, I definitely agree, since I believe that organized religion in general was made specifically for oppressing and manipulating people (especially women) in order for them not to reach the true divination (not a fact, just my opinion). So sex, is just one of those means of oppression.

About Chen, I think it's clear that is a shotgun wedding, since unfortunately there is little to no sex education in Korea. Koreans also tend to vilify the act of sex and don't use protection most of the time. Also, women who get pregnant outside of marriage tend to be frowned upon and that leads to thousands of abortions per year. Ex0 is an active and popular group and I think that maybe Chen had the intentions to marry that girl some day (just not now) but the pregnancy came up. Reading translated korean comments, I saw that Koreans acknowledge the fact that most kp0p idols are dirty and fake, so plenty of them were praising him for taking the responsibility, that is a good thing at least. I sincerely hope it will work for him, and I wish him the best. I am just curious as to what this will bring for the rest of the group, economically speaking.
 
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Concerning the religion, yes, I definitely agree, since I believe that organized religion in general was made specifically for oppressing and manipulating people (especially women) in order for them not to reach the true divination (not a fact, just my opinion). So sex, is just one of those means of oppression.

About Chen, I think it's clear that is a shotgut wedding, since unfortunately there is little to no sex education in Korea. Koreans also tend to vilify the act of sex and don't use protection most of the time. Also, women who get pregnant outside of marriage tend to be frowned upon and that leads to thousands of abortions per year. Ex0 is an active and popular group and I think that Chen had the intentions to marry that girl some day (just not now) but the pregnancy came up. Reading translated korean comments, I saw that Koreans acknowledge the fact that most kp0p idols are dirty and fake, so plenty of them were praising him for taking the responsibility, that is a good thing at least. I sincerely hope it will work for him, and I wish him the best. I am just curious as to what this will bring for the rest of the group, economically speaking.
One last question if you don’t mind - although I suppose I could google it. In the part of the UK I live in, abortion is only being made legal for the first time. Many people are deeply opposed to it.
Is it legal in Korea?
 

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One last question if you don’t mind - although I suppose I could google it. In the part of the UK I live in, abortion is only being made legal for the first time. Many people are deeply opposed to it.
Is it legal in Korea?
If I remember correctly, abortion was made legal only last year. Until then, there were hundreds of illegal clinics where women used to secretly find refuge in. So, technically it was illegal but they had found the way to bypass the law, and I find it extremely sad that so many women risked their lives because of that. But now, they want to revise and ban this abortion law again. Instead of teaching the youth about the importance of protection, they ban abortions, it's so hypocritical and, not to mention, terrifying to say the least.
 

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Thank you for that information.

Yes, I’m not in favour of abortion - particularly not as a form of contraception. However, I do maintain that if women are going to seek abortions, then the government have to make sure they put the laws in place to protect the best interests of mothers and babies who are going to go ahead and have them, one way or another.
I live in a country with an exceptionally high rate of teen pregnancy. There is no point in countries such as Korea trying to hide the problem by banning abortion.As you say, they should be more proactive in addressing the actual problem.
 

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Thank you for that information.

Yes, I’m not in favour of abortion - particularly not as a form of contraception. However, I do maintain that if women are going to seek abortions, then the government have to make sure they put the laws in place to protect the best interests of mothers and babies who are going to go ahead and have them, one way or another.
I live in a country with an exceptionally high rate of teen pregnancy. There is no point in countries such as Korea trying to hide the problem by banning abortion.As you say, they should be more proactive in addressing the actual problem.
No problem.
Yes, I don't stand for abortion as a form for contraception either, that would be a reckless behavior, but I definitely support that a woman must have every right to their own body, so the choice of abortion is one of those rights and contraception can guarantee you that much sometimes.

I think there are plenty of reasons why Korea is in such a bad place right now. First of all,most korean people are against marriage nowadays or many of them couldn't even afford one. They lead very hectic lives also and they have serious troubles with communicating with the different sex. Moreover, in many cases, marriage in Korea is viewed as an act which should be solely done in order for people to have children and look good for others,it doesn't matter whether they are happy or not. There is also an unwritten rule that after marriage, korean men visit prostitutes(who are myriads in Korea) and that is a given, they even take pride in that and don't even consider it as cheating. The wife knows in many cases but does not do anything. So to sum it up, this is mostly a social problem and strongly relates to abortions. If Korea does not change its mentality on many things/becomes more liberal, and if they don't legally create safe spaces for women in such patriarchal and misogynistic society, abortions will still take place at the same speed and this country cannot afford this to happen anymore, as their birth rates are extremely low.
 
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Do you think it’s just the Korean fans who are displeased with him or Kpop fans in general? I have seen positive and negative comments on Twitter, for example, but most have been positive. I too think he deserves to be happy.
I am curious if any of you mould my mind answering, how his plans to marry his girlfriend and raise the baby together fit into the overall idea of agenda of the illuminati, for example. Is this what you would expect of him?
You asked good question..and I tell you how it fit illuminati agenda though I believe like 99% wont agree with me..any way, it's clearly intended to be made that it's cool and very good role model for his fans and youth in Korea to further have child wedlock...Korean still disagree having child before marriage and before military..the illuminati doing that bcz they wanted to change that..they try to glamorize it but I am happy seeing so many koreans opposing that my country fans shamefully shamed me..deeply disappointed them..I told them if there family aware what they are doing online..they would immediately take the laptop from them..any way they are brainwashed by the satanic media..they are young teenagers.. but I am very worried for the next generation.. it sound like in not so far having sex in public would be ok..any way, this world is going to apocalypse soon..its end time...probably very unpopular opinion but who cares any way
 
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