When Religion And Conspiracy Theories Collide.

Lurking009 said:

The alleged question seems more akin to 'Watch this stupidly long video about animal abuse and then explain why you all haven't stopped beating your dogs yet. Why do you continue to abuse harmless animals?!? Let's see you squirm your way out of it - ha ha ha.".

The OP is an accusation, not a question. I have no clue what you expect from anyone... and your nasty attitude has guaranteed that I won't be participating. Have fun, though!

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Bye bye (waves)

Awoken2 said:

It's only shills and trolls that keep gaslighting me in this manner.

Why are you on this forum trying to convince everybody that all posters here are genuine?

You have seen for yourself how all social media platforms have been effectively shut down with military style censorship for the purposes of exposing anything which is going on in this world. What makes you think forums such as this would be allowed to openly question this obscene paradigm which is being created? Do you honestly expect people to believe that there are no shills and trolls working daily on this forum?

If so it is you that is deluded not me.

The OP question was simple.

Why do the people who do nothing but post OT bible passages here not appear on ANY threads discussing the very conspiracy that their faith is propagating?

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Because some of the people you think are shills are trolls at best. While there are shills out there and here on occasion, it is not a prevalent thing unless there is mass persuasion involved. Planting little seeds is not worth those kinds of people's time.

Seriously man, I know this forum is full of fakes and sock accounts. Ask around, I am a pro at sniffing them out. Some posters have three and four accounts and you have seen how banned people come back to haunt and deceive the place.

But, I am really not a shill. I have one single account and always have and used the same name at all the VC forums. I detest sock accounts, the games that come with them and the dishonesty. That is the straight-up truth.

But man, you get defensive and kind of rude with people quickly and that is why you attract some who are probably trying to get a rise out of you. I just think you need to lighten up a bit. I really do not think people are out to get you here or stop you from sharing. Look, I know I cracked on you one time for posting non stop about videos. I just got tired of seeing them referenced to everything and said something you can't seem to get past. So, I think I have traced the problem back to that point. You bristled, imagine that, and this whatever it is started.

So, moving past that, you are good at breaking down music videos. There is a compliment. But some of us have been here a long time and we have discussed things long ago that repeat on the forum. We are not newbies and learning the basics and when you call some ignorant, it is ignorant itself to do so.

I suppose it does not matter what I say but this was a version of an olive branch provided you can let go of some of that paranoia.

The Zone said:

Because some of the people you think are shills are trolls at best. While there are shills out there and here on occasion, it is not a prevalent thing unless there is mass persuasion involved. Planting little seeds is not worth those kinds of people's time.

Seriously man, I know this forum is full of fakes and sock accounts. Ask around, I am a pro at sniffing them out. Some posters have three and four accounts and you have seen how banned people come back to haunt and deceive the place.

But, I am really not a shill. I have one single account and always have and used the same name at all the VC forums. I detest sock accounts, the games that come with them and the dishonesty. That is the straight-up truth.

But man, you get defensive and kind of rude with people quickly and that is why you attract some who are probably trying to get a rise out of you. I just think you need to lighten up a bit. I really do not think people are out to get you here or stop you from sharing. Look, I know I cracked on you one time for posting non stop about videos. I just got tired of seeing them referenced to everything and said something you can't seem to get past. So, I think I have traced the problem back to that point. You bristled, imagine that, and this whatever it is started.

So, moving past that, you are good at breaking down old videos. There is a compliment. But some of us have been here a long time and we have discussed things long ago that repeat on the forum. We are not newbies and learning the basics.

I suppose it does not matter what I say but this was a version of an olive branch provided you can let go of some of that paranoia.

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...I ain't changing my avatar though...lol

Ok then in very simple terms.

Why do a large number of posters on this forum all want to talk about the nasty car crash that they are going to be involved in and at the same time try and ridicule people who are trying to point out that somebody's outside tampering with the breaks on the car?

It reminds me of this video.


The video in the OP makes it clear that there are plans being made to kill 6.5 billion people. THIS IS QUITE A SERIOUS MATTER which has got absolutely nothing to do with any God.

This can be avoided if people wake up and realise that it's the machinations of psycopaths who plan on ending this world as we know it...not no God.

Awoken2 said:

Ok then in very simple terms.

Why do a large number of posters on this forum all want to talk about the nasty car crash that they are going to be involved in and at the same time try and ridicule people who are trying to point out that somebody's outside tampering with the breaks on the car?

It reminds me of this video.

The video makes it clear that there are plans being made to kill 6.5 billion people. THIS IS QUITE A SERIOUS MATTER which has got absolutely nothing to do with any God.

This can be avoided if people wake up and realise that it's the machinations of psycopaths who plan on ending this world as we know it...not no God.

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Which posters are you actually referring to? I thought the whole point of this forum was to discuss topics of conspiracy so I'm a little confused by this OP tbh.

Robin said:

Which posters are you actually referring to?

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I'm referring to the posters who come here to post endless bible passages in as many threads as they can. Have you not noticed them Robin?

If all they want to do is spew out bible passages why don't they do it on some religious forum rather than a conspiracy forum?

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I'm referring to the posters who come here to post endless bible passages in as many threads as they can. Have you not noticed them Robin?

If all they want to do is spew out bible passages why don't they do it on some religious forum rather than a conspiracy forum?

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The only one I've seen really do that is Lisa . . . And I have her on ignore so no I haven't really been seeing it too much lol. To be fair most religious posters usually hash it out in the religious section (I think). At least from what I see but I'm not a long-time user so I wouldnt really be all that familiar. I was more interested in who rejects all talk of conspiracy theories -because that taking place on a platform like VC would just be absolutely ridiculous.

Robin said:

To be fair most religious posters usually hash it out in the religious section (I think). At least from what I see but I'm not a long-time user so I wouldnt really be all that familiar. I was more interested in who rejects all talk of conspiracy theories -because that taking place on a platform like VC would just be absolutely ridiculous.

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Well the thing is Robin the reason I created this thread was to try and ascertain why all the religions posters here have absolutely no input whatsoever in threads such as the NWO, 5G, Vaccines, Transhumanism, transgender agenda, Georgia guidstones, freemasonry, RSA, satanic elements of the pop industry.

If you take notice that each time a post is made on any of the given topics there then follows a deluge of religious posts to make these important topics not visible it appears to me that the bible bashers are purposefully trying to divert attention from the biggest conspiracy of all.

As I type this 3 out of the last 5 latest posts are religious.

P.s. Lisa has been reported more times than a serial flasher but she still comes here every day trying to spread her faith/filth. Makes me wonder, it really does.

Awoken2 said:

The video in the OP makes it clear that there are plans being made to kill 6.5 billion people. THIS IS QUITE A SERIOUS MATTER which has got absolutely nothing to do with any God.

This can be avoided if people wake up and realise that it's the machinations of psycopaths who plan on ending this world as we know it...not no God.

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How do you know that those plans to kill 6.5 billion people is real? And how do you know that God has nothing to do with it...or let’s put it this way, doesn’t know it might happen?

It seems like you made this thread not to have a discussion but to cry out against people who have a worldview different than yours. You want those people to answer but you don’t. You want to revile them but you don’t want them to defend themselves and certainly not with scripture. Which given their belief in God..might include scripture as a defense.

You then hate that I came into your thread but your focus seems to be me now..which is a bit bizarre. That you seem focused on me in particular when you barely talk to me is a bit strange to me, I rarely interact with you, why all the hate?

Last but not least, why do you want answers from me if you won’t take anything I say seriously? I can’t believe that you work with damaged kids because you seem quite damaged yourself.

Awoken2 said:

Well the thing is Robin the reason I created this thread was to try and ascertain why all the religions posters here have absolutely no input whatsoever in threads such as the NWO, 5G, Vaccines, Transhumanism, transgender agenda, Georgia guidstones, freemasonry, RSA, satanic elements of the pop industry.

If you take notice that each time a post is made on any of the given topics there then follows a deluge of religious posts to make these important topics not visible it appears to me that the bible bashers are purposefully trying to divert attention from the biggest conspiracy of all.

As I type this 3 out of the last 5 latest posts are religious.

P.s. Lisa has been reported more times than a serial flasher but she still comes here every day trying to spread her faith/filth. Makes me wonder, it really does.

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Okay, now we are getting somewhere...this makes more sense. I can't answer for the other Christians on this forum, only for myself. I do not personally engage deeply in the discussions on the topics you listed above because I don't feel I have much to add to the discussion. I read all the topics to stay informed and for the most part are open to the idea that there is varying degreees of truth behind most of these conspiracy theories.

My motive for posting in the religious topics is because I actually have a different prespective then what is usually being posted. It baffles me that Christian's can come to a conspiracy forum and buy into the idea that main-stream media, main-stream entertainment, main-stream government, main-stream education, and main-stream corporations are all influenced by or part of conspiracies to distort or withhold the truth and enlsave mankind, yet when it comes to main-stream religion, they can't even contemplate that institutional religion has distorted the truth about Jesus or that main-stream Christianity could possibly be part of the conspriacy against mankind.
The argument that God supernaturally protects "the Church" and his "truth" from being influenced by conspiracies is quite laughable, as the evidence of the countless denominations and sects of Christianity that can't agree on even basic theology and doctrines proves otherwise.

The biggest proof of institutional Christiantiy being part of the conspiracy is that Jesus spoke very specifically against a hierarchical form of leadership amongst believers, yet every single institutional denomination and sect of Christianity is built on the same top-down structure of authority that the rest of society is built on. Most Christian's would claim that Jesus is the head of their organized expression of the church, yet in America, 99% of those churches are 501c3 organizations that make them entities of the State and under the full authority and jurisdiction of the Federal Government. How can Jesus be the head of an entity created and owned by the State?

Once this fact is accepted and fully understood, it becomes clear to see that the organized, instituional church has been part of the grand conspiracy since the day the first "believer" claimed to have "spirtiual authority" over another believer. Jesus said to "call no man your father", yet during the first generation of the church men were already claiming to be "spiritual fathers" over other believers. It all went downhill pretty fast from there. Yet Christian's who believe in conspiracies in every other realm of society, continue to embrace and defend the doctrines and dogma's that they have been indoctrinated with by mainstream, top down authority, hierachical, institutionalized religion. Go figure...

Folks, truthfully there are no secrets, only lack of awareness. I’ve repeated this over and over on these forums, sorry for sounding like a broken record at times. To the three satanists here who are posing as Christians and using neuro linguistic programming, I see you, but I’m not naming names. (That would be petty and inauthentic, and as long as I am standing in authenticity their psychic attacks cannot reach me.)

Faker He-Man said:

Folks, truthfully there are no secrets, only lack of awareness. I’ve repeated this over and over on these forums, sorry for sounding like a broken record at times. To the three satanists here who are posing as Christians and using neuro linguistic programming, I see you, but I’m not naming names. (That would be petty and inauthentic, and as long as I am standing in authenticity their psychic attacks cannot reach me.)

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So, you do see the neuro-linguistic programming in those peeps! There are a lot of parlor tricks in play as well and some darn serious paranoia being played upon.

A conspiracy forum is not going to attract your garden variety of religious types.

If I am a therapist, I am going to leave a stack of business cards in here.

The Zone said:

So, you do see the neuro-linguistic programming in those peeps! There are a lot of parlor tricks in play as well and some darn serious paranoia being played upon.

A conspiracy forum is not going to attract your garden variety of religious types.

If I am a therapist, I am going to leave a stack of business cards in here.

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Through the clever use of language and rapport to implant subconscious hypnotic suggestions, the goal is to subtly steer the conscious energy of the sincere religious person away from serving their inner spirit and toward the opposing energies of negative ego desires, such as the self-serving energies of expectation, entitlement, and ill will toward non-believers. The more hateful and destructive ideas found within religion are used in this way to trick people into conjuring dark forces instead of following their own genuine heart-based intentions.

Todd said:

I believe the overall message is not that conspiracy theories are not real, but that we should not fear them, if we put our trust in God.

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So if that is the case does this mean we should not fear being wiped out by psychopaths as long as we believe what's written in the Old Testament which tells us we are going to get wiped out by God?

Bit of a lose lose situation isn't it?

Awoken2 said:

So if that is the case does this mean we should not fear being wiped out by psychopaths as long as we believe what's written in the Old Testament which tells us we are going to get wiped out by God?

Bit of a lose lose situation isn't it?

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Where does the OT say God is going to wipe out those who put their trust in him?

The message of the Bible (when not interpreted with extreme literalism) is that if you put your trust in God and follow his guidance, he will take care of you. If you don't trust God and you ignore his guidance then your results may vary.

It doesn't matter what the psychopaths do, because I consider it all joy when various trials may come upon me, because I know if I ask God for wisdom and follow his guidance the trials and tribulations will bring me to spiritual maturity in God. (James chapter 1)

Todd said:

Where does the OT say God is going to wipe out those who put their trust in him?

The message of the Bible (when not interpreted with extreme literalism) is that if you put your trust in God and follow his guidance, he will take care of you. If you don't trust God and you ignore his guidance then your results may vary.

It doesn't matter what the psychopaths do, because I consider it all joy when various trials may come upon me, because I know if I ask God for wisdom and follow his guidance the trials and tribulations will bring me to spiritual maturity in God. (James chapter 1)

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I'm sorry Todd but I don't buy it.

Is God protecting you from this right now because you believe in the bible?


Are you not drinking the same flouridated water as non believers? Are you not breathing in the heavy metals that we are all breathing in? Are you not eating the same genetically modified foods as the atheists? Are you immune from 5G radiation with your armour of God?

Sorry I just don't understand what you mean.

agree. seems like the majority of people on these boards regurgitate bible verses to prove a "point" which makes them looking ridiculous, especially on a conspiracy site, seeing that they have fallen victim to one of the greatest conspiracies of all time.

Im not knocking religion at all. awakwenng and spiritulism are (IMO) the main points of living this particular life. but hiding behind organized doctrine wont help you grow. or maybe it will. what do i know?

ill watch the video wheni get a chance.

MP3D said:

agree. seems like the majority of people on these boards regurgitate bible verses to prove a "point" which makes them looking ridiculous, especially on a conspiracy site, seeing that they have fallen victim to one of the greatest conspiracies of all time.

Im not knocking religion at all. awakwenng and spiritulism are (IMO) the main points of living this particular life. but hiding behind organized doctrine wont help you grow. or maybe it will. what do i know?

ill watch the video wheni get a chance.

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I don’t think its to prove a point, but to talk about where truth comes from. It must come from somewhere..

Your truth is written in stone in Georgia @Lisa . Just because you are too dumb to recognise that it doesn't invalidate it as a cold hard fact. If you had the mental capacity to watch more than 5 mins of anything in one go you may one day learn something new.

....I won't hold my breath.

Awoken2 said:

I'm sorry Todd but I don't buy it.

Is God protecting you from this right now because you believe in the bible?

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Are you not drinking the same flouridated water as non believers? Are you not breathing in the heavy metals that we are all breathing in? Are you not eating the same genetically modified foods as the atheists? Are you immune from 5G radiation with your armour of God?

Sorry I just don't understand what you mean.

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Fair enough. I'll try to clarify...

God doesn't protect me or bless me or do anything because I "believe" the Bible. Believing is worthless if one doesn't act and apply the guidance of God to their life. God blesses me when I follow his guidance and live according to his commandments as summed up by Jesus (Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind and love your neighbor as yourself). Faith without works is dead! In the same way simply "believing" conspiracy theories is useless if one doesn't know how to apply or act on the belief that conspiracy theories are real.

The wages of sin is death. We live in a fallen world. The Bible is clear that we will all die physically. Yes all those things you listed can contribute to my physical demise, but even if they were not fostered on me by the Elite, I would still die because I live in fallen world.

Do I loose sleep over the things you have listed? No, because I know that I am in God's hands. Whether I die of old age, flouridated water, heavy metals, GMO foods, or 5G radiation it really makes little difference. I would rather spend my energy seeking God and his ways and then worry in futility about the physical pollution the NWO is bombarding me. I could spend my whole life trying to combat the physical evils the NWO is attacking me with and have nothing to show for it when I die. Instead, I will spend my life persevering and overcoming various trials, having patience and the fruit of the Spirit born within me so that in the ages to come I may attain the crown of life. (James 1:12)

I have the peace of God that surpasses all understanding and by the grace of God I have had the privelege of blessing others and helping them find their path to peace with God also.

Do you really have hope that you can combat and defeat the conspiracies of the NWO? Does discussing and pulling the veil off the conspiracies of the NWO bring you peace? If it does, then I am happy for you. I tried in vain for years to expose it with little to no impact on actually changing anything or anyone. (I started researching the illuminati the old fashioned way, in a library, before the internet was a readily available resource) However I have seen multiple lives transformed and blessed by actually following the spiritual guidance and commands of God as found in the bible.