Spiritual Warfare: The Battle of the Messages

shankara

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"Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you."
(James 5:1-6)


Hope nobody here works for a multinational corporation...
 

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"Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you...

”Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

Hope nobody here works for a multinational corporation...
I find this one very interesting as it suggests the financial elites many think are engineering a “last days” scenario to fit their NWO plans will themselves weep and mourn in the global economic collapse that will come on the world in the “time of Jacob’s Trouble”.
 

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I find this one very interesting as it suggests the financial elites many think are engineering a “last days” scenario to fit their NWO plans will themselves weep and mourn in the global economic collapse that will come on the world in the “time of Jacob’s Trouble”.
There are levels of elites... some high level elites and some low level elites and some in between elites.

The uber elites have planned this end game for decades... and God has seen and said it a long time ago.
 

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There are levels of elites... some high level elites and some low level elites and some in between elites.

The uber elites have planned this end game for decades... and God has seen and said it a long time ago.
As I read it, their ascent to the pinnacle is brief as Satan doesn’t believe in coalition international government...

Revelation 17:12

“And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”
 

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As I read it, their ascent to the pinnacle is brief as Satan doesn’t believe in coalition international government...

Revelation 17:12

“And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”
A prophetic hour is probably not so long... but i bet it's so short because of the return of the King.
 

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... I'd like to think that if there is a God whose existence is the very definition of absolute truth, that the path to fellowship with Him would not be muddled by endless debate and confusion and trick doors. I'd like to think it would be simple enough that even the most illiterate, uneducated and philosophically-disinclined mind could find it.
I agree with this, and we can. Faith works within people in many ways. One might see the Almighty in mathematics, another by overcoming a horrible disease. We're all on our own path in a way. Most who identify with a set religion aren't very "religious", but there is a belief in values and goodness.

Anyone who says that theology, philosophy, and early Christian history are irrelevant to faith in God as a Christian do not know themselves. The irony is that the specific doctrines/christology of Jesus descending from heaven, the word/logos made flesh, atonement for original sin, resurrection from death to return to "heaven", etc. are gnostic concepts espoused by Paul, in Johannine works, and by other Gnostic sects, many decades after Jesus lived. I think the more esoteric writings can distort the message among the unstudied. To say "Jesus is the Son of God" without prerequisite knowledge of the mindset of Jewish/Hellenic theologians of that era, who debated/originated such ideas within their paradigm, is absurd.

My problem with Christianity is that it's based more on the descriptive ruminations of Paul than the words of Jesus; that people seem more devoted to Paul's romantic, convoluted christology, than God the Holy One.

I recognize there are positive elements of the Church and am glad that Europeans have at least some form of theism, but man it is flawed. We're setting our standard dreadfully low. Warping the story to make Jesus into God (when we know he worshiped the Father), born of a virgin, achieving physical immortality, has psychologically impacted us the last 2000 years. I don't mean just the brutality and p***philia of the RCC, or Protestants who owned slaves in America.

What we're witnessing is an example of mass cognitive dissonance regarding day-to-day life and our own sense of inner strength. The Supreme God becoming a man is so impossible for the average person to conceive- it creates a wall between us and our innate connection to God (that Jesus worked to ignite). Someone says, "well I wasn't born of a virgin, and only he is Godly... I'm just a sinner". There's an inherent disconnect I see that's hard to describe. The culture is schizophrenic. There's no wisdom, sensitivity. They box themselves in this abstract idea of God as an image from Revelation, Jesus literally descending from heaven. Every allegorical phrase and exhortation is taught as literal truth, it's insane. Instead of promoting cultivation of our own spiritual awareness it seems like the church is stuck in neutral. They're trapped by the past. The schizm between Catholic and Protestant is a curse and evidence of deep rooted instability.

Criticism of popular Christianity doesn't take away from the divinity of Jesus. He was the awaited Messiah and recognized the light of God within. The ancient message that Jesus preached is to remember God. Treat others like you'd like to be treated. Fast and pray. Be the son/daughter of God that YOU are. Salvation doesn't rest in "believing in Jesus", it's found by living by his teachings.
 
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Warping the story to make Jesus into God (when we know he worshiped the Father), born of a virgin, achieving physical immortality, has psychologically impacted us the last 2000 years.
The Script is crystal clear about Jesus being God... so those who deny this are warping the story.

Besides blame the so called leaders and experts in the western world for pushing darwinism... and so causing a schizo society.
 
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The Script is crystal clear about Jesus being God... so those who deny this are warping the story.

Besides blame the so called leaders and experts in the western world for pushing darwinism... and so causing a schizo society.
Jesus undeniably confirms The Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4, the core Jewish doctrine) without addition:

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”
“Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”
When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.

- Mark 12:28-34

There's no denying it, "the son can do nothing on his own" (John 5:19).
 

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Jesus undeniably confirms The Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4, the core Jewish doctrine) without addition:

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”
“Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”
When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.

- Mark 12:28-34

There's no denying it, "the son can do nothing on his own" (John 5:19).
Are you a Jew ?



Matthew 22 41While the Pharisees were assembled, Jesus questioned them: 42“What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is He?

“David’s,” they answered.

43Jesus said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him Lord? For he says:

44‘The Lord said to my Lord,

“Sit at My right hand,

until I put Your enemies

under Your feet.”’

45So if David calls Him Lord, how can He be David’s son?

46No one was able to answer a word, and from that day on no one dared to question Him any further.
 

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There was some fear when I started my Good News Club that this is what would happen...or the mormons who had their ’church’ across the street, would come into the school. Neither did happen btw but the leader of the clubs and I both thought at that time God was allowing us to have an easier time of it but we felt that it would soon change.


A Satanist 'children's ministry' in Tennessee has announced plans to teach their beliefs to students who don't want to study the Bible.

Knox County officials said they were considering a program that would allow pupils to miss class for church-sponsored bible study.

Local school board members are preparing to vote on a proposed Bible Release Time program for students who want to attend an hour-long Christianity course at a local church.

But the group of Satanists have responded to the proposal by launching the Satanic Children's Ministry of Knoxville, because they believe public schools should not promote religion, and if they do, all religions should be represented.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7652389/Satanist-childrens-ministry-teach-tenets-Satanism-students-Tennessee-public-schools.html
 

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Ephesians 6:10-18 King James Version (KJV)
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
 
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