Trump: The future does not belong to globalists

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Oh, look! Antifa has entered another Trump thread. Haters gonna hate. Since everyone so easily casts labels upon some I thought I'd try it. What kills me is how many think they have the answers and know exactly what is going on but if you disagree, you are turned into some message board comic-book villain. In short, differing views makes you either Team Black or Team White. I am absolutely convinced that some who spend an inordinate amount of time around here desperately needs to do more than walk to their mailbox on occasion. Seriously, some need to get out of the lounge chair and see the real world and not the MSM world.

Back to whatever we are ranting about, the dems are poking the snake one too many times. They are creating hate and forcing division as no party has ever done in our known history.
Dude, you forgot the "mom's basement" part. It's crucial.
 

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Basement dwellers are indeed here and they often think they are judge and jury on everything. I mean, why don't we just listen to them for they conned Mom into leaving them a dwelling to study whatever it is they think holds all the answers. That was a major life accomplishment, conning Mom .... message board cred.

So, what is my message board villain name? I am sure it will have some fantasy-driven connotations. It is frightening how distracted some are to the theater of the absurd.
 
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Oh, look! Antifa has entered another Trump thread. Haters gonna hate. Since everyone so easily casts labels upon some I thought I'd try it. What kills me is how many think they have the answers and know exactly what is going on but if you disagree, you are turned into some message board comic-book villain.
I am friends with people that have different viewpoints that I do and I know a lot of people who voted for Trump over Hillary for perfectly valid reasons. But if you still support Trump, I can't help but feel you're either very naive or being deliberately contrarian. "The MSM doesn't like Trump (except for FOX which is part of the MSM) doesn't like Trump so he MUST be a good guy!"





In short, differing views makes you either Team Black or Team White. I am absolutely convinced that some who spend an inordinate amount of time around here desperately needs to do more than walk to their mailbox on occasion. Seriously, some need to get out of the lounge chair and see the real world and not the MSM world.
It's funny since going out in the real world shaped my political views. When I was a teenager or in my early 20's, I was a pretty hardcore "Libertarian". Then I got out of my little circle and met more people... I saw a lot of hard workers with nothing to their name, people who got into legal trouble for crimes they didn't commit because of lazy cops and DAs looking for fame, and people struggle just to have the most basic things in life. The American Dream was a lie... Working hard and keeping in line didn't get you that house with a white picket fence.


Back to whatever we are ranting about, the dems are poking the snake one too many times. They are creating hate and forcing division as no party has ever done in our known history.
It's funny you accuse others of creating sides.... Yet don't seem to understand you can think the Democrats and Republicans are different sides of the same coin. Just because I think Trump, who's a pretty bog standard Republican in 2019, is garbage doesn't mean I think that the Democrats are the good guys. I think both are bad guys and the system uses superficial differences to give us an illusion of choice. The few Democrats I'd vote for aren't because I like them as people or think they will bring change themselves... Rather than they can be the seeds of real change, brought on by people.
 

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Oh, look! Antifa has entered another Trump thread. Haters gonna hate. Since everyone so easily casts labels upon some I thought I'd try it. What kills me is how many think they have the answers and know exactly what is going on but if you disagree, you are turned into some message board comic-book villain. In short, differing views makes you either Team Black or Team White. I am absolutely convinced that some who spend an around here desperately needs to do more than walk to their mailbox on occasion. Seriously, some need to get out of the lounge chair and see the real world and not the MSM world.

Back to whatever we are ranting about, the dems are poking the snake one too many times. They are creating hate and forcing division as no party has ever done in our known history.
I have this mental image of you, when you makes posts like this one....seething to the point where all the veins are sticking out in your neck, face flushed with rage, jumping up and down on your MAGA cap, fists clenched, smashed keyboards strewn everywhere.

I have to laugh at the way you try and label everybody who takes a pop at your orange superhero Antifa then go on to try and convince people that this Democrat/Republicans bollocks actually matters. Do you honestly hold the belief that a politian gives a flying fuck about your quality of life?....and you have the gall to tell people to see the real world!?!?....when you can't even see that!

And another thing, one of the most dumbest statements you can post on a public forum is one that attacks posters who spend "
inordinate amounts of time" here because you yourself would also have to be spending inordinate amounts of time here to notice the people who spend inordinate amounts of time here..... so it just kinda doesn't work when you say that. Surely you can understand this yes?

....although I am encouraged by your last paragraph with this line being especially important...

"They are creating hate and forcing division"

.....does this mean the penny has now dropped?
 

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You seem to struggle with comprehension by not seeing the Antifa comment was a sarcastic joke. And there you go with the labeling, owning that comment. If one points out they like Trump over Hillary, they are a Trumster to you. Black and white simpleness.

No veins popping for I live a full life. The angry Englishman makes his appearance and HANGS on every single word I type. Every single one. Stalky. I just wish I could post here without your constant shadow.

Rule 4 - Do not attack forum members on a personal level. This includes insults, name calling, flaming, baiting and repeated harassment.



Edited - editing is a tool some should use when they think better of something for the forum whole, especially when trolled.
 
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....well, I'll let you have the last word on this one, you deserve it.

.....(.I'll delete this post for authenticity/credibility)
 

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Not everyone has the ability to read the difference between deception and sincerity. Those who are more gullible, no matter whether they are pleased with Trump or angry with him, all have one glaringly obvious thing in common that will always be overlooked in favor of something more novel or absurd. Those who are the most pleased along with those who are the most angry with Trump are also those who have invested the most in the illusion that Trump is sincere.

We can see that he is a compulsive liar and think no further, or realize how this simple and obvious similarity is the key to unlock something within our own minds that will greatly improve our own future if we allow it, completely regardless of whether Trump is wittingly or unwittingly acting as a catalyst in this process. My bet is the latter but Trump’s level of awareness makes absolutely no difference to the result.
But they'started warning us 50 odd years ago that one day our planet would kept safe by a bunch.of puppets.....we had fair warning.

 
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Basement dwellers are indeed here and they often think they are judge and jury on everything. I mean, why don't we just listen to them for they conned Mom into leaving them a dwelling to study whatever it is they think holds all the answers. That was a major life accomplishment, conning Mom .... message board cred.

So, what is my message board villain name? I am sure it will have some fantasy-driven connotations. It is frightening how distracted some are to the theater of the absurd.
Ain’t nobody got time for your drama, Z.
 

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I am friends with people that have different viewpoints that I do and I know a lot of people who voted for Trump over Hillary for perfectly valid reasons. But if you still support Trump, I can't help but feel you're either very naive or being deliberately contrarian. "The MSM doesn't like Trump (except for FOX which is part of the MSM) doesn't like Trump so he MUST be a good guy!"







It's funny since going out in the real world shaped my political views. When I was a teenager or in my early 20's, I was a pretty hardcore "Libertarian". Then I got out of my little circle and met more people... I saw a lot of hard workers with nothing to their name, people who got into legal trouble for crimes they didn't commit because of lazy cops and DAs looking for fame, and people struggle just to have the most basic things in life. The American Dream was a lie... Working hard and keeping in line didn't get you that house with a white picket fence.




It's funny you accuse others of creating sides.... Yet don't seem to understand you can think the Democrats and Republicans are different sides of the same coin. Just because I think Trump, who's a pretty bog standard Republican in 2019, is garbage doesn't mean I think that the Democrats are the good guys. I think both are bad guys and the system uses superficial differences to give us an illusion of choice. The few Democrats I'd vote for aren't because I like them as people or think they will bring change themselves... Rather than they can be the seeds of real change, brought on by people.
Can anyone say with a straight face that what we have seen from the Democratic party is helpful in any way? Are they in your opinion being forced to act as they are instead of gearing up for an election be it real or not? I never mentioned one way or another my beliefs on the left-right dynamic. I am just tired of the circus act of what we are forced to be a part of for we breathe the earth's air. The sides I referred to are the ones where if I do not trash Trump daily then I must be a major supporter or labeling. Some here beam into what they want to see with mere posts which do not allow for the overall depth of a person. They cherry-pick statements while not addressing posts on the whole and then categorize you and or label you which was the point.

I was labeled as a mad, shit-kicking Trump supporter in someone's mind for that is what they want to think. I get enough of some of this crap when I study MSM, but I see the same talking points here which gives one man more power than he could ever have. If others do not believe in the left-right as they say, then why are their posts so slanted towards making certain points of a divided side? The labeling from some, soon makes others not think or read on their own. It is much like the Adam Schiff who is in charge of the investigation or at the forefront making up his own not so comical version of a transcript or whatever you may want to call it in a serious situation. Schiff essentially made the transcript say what he wanted and people who do not research that take it to be true on the surface. And I am angry for they cannot impeach Trump, so why waste money, time and effort?

I get some think it is all scripted. I feel the same in some ways, but we still live in a place where all this has an effect. By saying this is a dog and pony show, does not make me a Trump lover, unless someone wants it to. I despise his demeanor but be he real or not, I like the slowing of the PC roll. It may be a mirage, but many feel things are better in America anyway and that we are not in a major war and seemingly negotiating with countries with nukes. But nukes have no bearing, that is a false worry which is a story for another thread. Long story.

It is dishonest for the same people saying who is in the office does not matter when they choose to harp on who is there on a daily basis. It is also not consistent to say that those who vote for him are morons while not recognizing or harping on the same thing from the other side. (You did not do that which I appreciate and made a point without the usual personal issues some have.) If people are truly beyond left-right dynamic, then why does this happen?

The division is nothing new. It is an art form of takeover. Even denominations in the Christian church were meant to divide and it is the reason Muslims do not all think the same and that carries over to everything. But there is a division going on much more lethal than politics. Many who are not spiritual will not get it but it is clear to see that the real battle is a moral one.

Now watch as a person could come in and take one sentence I say and try to make this all about that while ignoring the rest. After a while, the shadowing gets tiresome. Thanks for your respectful post seeking conversation.
 
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Can anyone say with a straight face that what we have seen from the Democratic party is helpful in any way? Are they in your opinion being forced to act as they are instead of gearing up for an election be it real or not? I never mentioned one way or another my beliefs on the left-right dynamic. I am just tired of the circus act of what we are forced to be a part of for we breathe the earth's air. The sides I referred to are the ones where if I do not trash Trump daily then I must be a major supporter or labeling. Some here beam into what they want to see with mere posts which do not allow for the overall depth of a person. They cherry-pick statements while not addressing posts on the whole and then categorize you and or label you which was the point.
Anything that gets people to question the capitalist power structures is good thing, since that's what the power of the world is based upon. Even so-called communists nations like China have been absorbed by the beast that is Mammon. And while there is no Democratic candidate that is actually against capitalism... It's a start.

That's why I think there are a few people among the Democrats that are good. I used to feel that the Ron Paul-style libertarian was also good... But they seem to be all but dead in the Republican Party and even dying in the Libertarian Party.
Regardless, we need people who inspire people to work against the machine.

I was labeled as a mad, shit-kicking Trump supporter in someone's mind for that is what they want to think. I get enough of some of this crap when I study MSM, but I see the same talking points here which gives one man more power than he could ever have. If others do not believe in the left-right as they say, then why are their posts so slanted towards making certain points of a divided side? The labeling from some, soon makes others not think or read on their own. It is much like the Adam Schiff who is in charge of the investigation or at the forefront making up his own not so comical version of a transcript or whatever you may want to call it in a serious situation. Schiff essentially made the transcript say what he wanted and people who do not research that take it to be true on the surface. And I am angry for they cannot impeach Trump, so why waste money, time and effort?
The reason why people label you a mad, shit-kicking Trump supporter is you seem to want to die on a hill defending Donald Trump. Yes, the MSM hates him, but that doesn't mean he's a good guy. Sometimes, the enemy of your enemy is still your enemy.

He's increasing the power of state control, under the guise of fighting illegal immigration. He's setting up detainment camps, within our country, and a lot of people are applauding him. But as we've seen with Bush signing the PATRIOT Act, which lead to Obama working with big tech to spy on the American people, things only get worse. We give the State and inch, they take a mile. He's also gleefully abusing his power as president - and no president should even joke about sending the FCC after a comedy show just because it makes fun of him.

Trump is an asshole. Trump is very much part of the problem; he's a representative of the system and everything he does feeds it. Like I said... He was totally on board with the Fox/Disney merger, since his buddy owned Fox. Ignoring, that making the House of Mouse more powerful (considering it's tendrils are wrapped up in more than just entertainment media) is something no "nationalist" would ever do... Since Disney wants to rule the damned world.


I get some think it is all scripted. I feel the same in some ways, but we still live in a place where all this has an effect. By saying this is a dog and pony show, does not make me a Trump lover, unless someone wants it to. I despise his demeanor but be he real or not, I like the slowing of the PC roll. It may be a mirage, but many feel things are better in America anyway and that we are not in a major war and seemingly negotiating with countries with nukes. But nukes have no bearing, that is a false worry which is a story for another thread. Long story.
The media is totally playing up the Trump hate. He's playing his role and he'll retire. But again... Trump's action don't effect just Trump's adminstration. Every shitty thing any president does is often carried on by their successor, no matter what party he's part of. And Trump is doing some shockingly shitty things... And they should be called out, so whoever gets in office in 2020 or 2024 doesn't do worse.

It is dishonest for the same people saying who is in the office does not matter when they choose to harp on who is there on a daily basis. It is also not consistent to say that those who vote for him are morons while not recognizing or harping on the same thing from the other side. (You did not do that which I appreciate and made a point without the usual personal issues some have.) If people are truly beyond left-right dynamic, then why does this happen?
Thinking it doesn't matter who is in office doesn't mean you can't think the person in office is doing bad things. Mainstream Democrat or Republican... It really doesn't matter. They all serve the status quo. And that's just the problem with some of Trump's actions. He's making the status quo a little more scary. He's accelerating things... And while his presidency might end ultimately overblown... That's sort of the point. "Oh, all those people complained about Trump when he did x thing and look... It didn't end so bad!" "You're right. X thing wasn't bad at all. And y thing that #46 wants to do doesn't seem that different..."

He's part of the system. And the system needs to be dismantled.
 

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I think trump is sincere, and I believe this speech could cost his life (if he is not careful)...JFK anyone?
 
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