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ThisGirlWoke

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I have a random question. When you sell your soul to a record company, and go through MK ULTRA. Can you still act like yourself at times, or is it all just a programmed behavior? Can they (BTS) still make decisions on their own? Has there ever been a time someone pleaded for their soul back as an entertainer? BTW if the boys came from Royal families, does this mean that their parents that come to their shows and pose with them overseas when traveling are really not their true parents?
I mean for the most part, you're being controlled. it's probably only little times they allow you to be yourself, but for the most part- I think not. Sure, you can see them acting themselves say, when they're hungry a lot, or tired a lot. That's when you know their true selves is showing because they're the ones dealing with this hot mess that THEY got themselves in! I'm pretty sure there are times people have pleaded for their soul back, do you know a singer called Billie eilish? She talked about "I wanna end me", because she's tired of being controlled. I think they mostly want to kill themselves for having participating in the most vile things to keep their success up instead of pleading for their soul. There's a good chance that bts parents aren't really their real parents, but tbh I don't really care cause they're all messed up in the head. Sorry for being blunt, but I wouldn't be surprised if most of their family is already dead with the amount of popularity they're getting as stated in my previous comment.
 

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if bts had ended their contact recently or years ago that wouldn't mean they would not be tied to the occult? They would still have to keep attending rituals willingly or not?
 

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I have a random question. When you sell your soul to a record company, and go through MK ULTRA. Can you still act like yourself at times, or is it all just a programmed behavior? Can they (BTS) still make decisions on their own? Has there ever been a time someone pleaded for their soul back as an entertainer? BTW if the boys came from Royal families, does this mean that their parents that come to their shows and pose with them overseas when traveling are really not their true parents?
Of course they can still act like themselves. It's just hard and painful. Also even if bts signed a contract making a deal with the devil, litterally probably signing the contract with blood, they can still be saved. You know why? Because there's nothing stronger than the blood of Jesus!! Jesus can set them free, because there is power in the blood of Jesus. There is power in the name of Jesus. There's No one to far gone to be saved. Just like B.I from ikon. I thank God he got out. Know he has time to clear his mind up and hopefully come to Christ!
 

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Of course they can still act like themselves. It's just hard and painful. Also even if bts signed a contract making a deal with the devil, litterally probably signing the contract with blood, they can still be saved. You know why? Because there's nothing stronger than the blood of Jesus!! Jesus can set them free, because there is power in the blood of Jesus. There is power in the name of Jesus. There's No one to far gone to be saved. Just like B.I from ikon. I thank God he got out. Know he has time to clear his mind up and hopefully come to Christ!
They cannot be saved anymore... they have done their part. Their souls are done for... and they won't stop working for satan especially in these times... this includes every other famous person who sold out. They want all that fame and fortune regardless if they've had enough with their torture to continue said popularity, and since they get controlled that means they will REALLY work hard for satan and try to damn as many souls as they can, and with that, they will also be joining their worshippers in eternal torment. Selling your soul is kind of the same as getting the mark of the beast. If you have that mark, you belong to satan, and just like when you sell your soul, you can buy whatever you please but regardless, you're damned. Also, there's a 100% chance every sellout in this planet will receive the mark because they already worship satan to begin with. That means they don't have a chance to go to heaven anymore.
 

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The message they promote about loving yourself is just fine. Yall just pressed, cause you only see things in a religious point of view. There is nothing wrong with a human loving himself. If you don't love you, who the fuck will ? Your neighbor, your friend, your cat ? You are the number one priority in your life, you should take care of you. And no, its not selfishness, it's called logic.

Their ulterior motives behind it have a bit of satanic agenda ofc, but only if you are that brainwashed to think a celeb loves you. It should be common knowledge by now that no celeb actually loves their fans. They love being loved by fans. I thought everyone knew about that. That's like the unwritten rule number one of fame.
It sounds reasonable, loving yourself can only be good, right? But there is a subtle difference in what they are pushing vs. what is actually good. "Loving yourself" is the kindler, gentler presentation of "do what thou wilt". Do what makes you happy! Be yourself! Even if you make other people uncomfortable or cause friction in society -- it doesn't matter -- just do you! That isn't how life actually works. The only way you can ever just "do what thou wilt" is if you live by yourself in a remote area. If you live in a civilization, you have to make trade offs for the common good. Just like we don't walk around completely naked and why we have traffic laws and any other number of things -- for the common good. Sure, laws/rules can get excessive or some can be completely nonsensical -- but that doesn't mean that having laws/restrictions is completely a bad thing. You fine tune what is wrong, you don't dismiss the entire structure, though.

"Loving yourself" if taken too far leads to narcissism. And what a sad commentary that so many think that no one will love them except themselves. Self love is fine, but it doesn't compare to loving someone else and being loved in return. And I'm not talking about just romantic love. The greatest love I have ever felt is the love I have for my children. But I have loved friends and my dogs, too. And I love strangers enough that I would never intentionally hurt them -- physically or emotionally. Love is the recognition that others feel and are just as important as I am. That is a huge concept that humans develop as they mature. Those pushing self-centered love wish to keep us mentally stunted and more easily controlled by keeping us from seeing one another as equals. We are encouraged to think of others as just bit players in the story of our own life. Or worse, people trying to stop us from being happy.

The concept in religion about "submission" to God is really just a recognition that this world is fleeting and that there is a higher power than ourselves. Admitting that keeps us from thinking that we are god. The illuminati takes the opposite view -- instead of man worshiping God, we are supposed to realize that we are gods ourselves. The occult is all about materialism -- an obsession with the worldly: fame, money, power. In order to amass great wealth and power, you have to be able to only care about yourself. It is hard to become super wealthy if you aren't comfortable with ripping people off or breaking the rules to get an advantage. Religion is the counter to that: it rejects the worldly concerns in favor of the spiritual. Religion is a man made institution, so of course it is not perfect. As they say, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The power of the church was abused just as much as any secular power has been. But, the values of religion (even though not always practiced by those claiming faith) are still superior to the materialistic occult values being preached by the media which is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the occultists/satanists at this point.

Those at the top reject God -- but not because they don't believe in him. They just choose to take the opposite path in order to gain wealth and power in this world. It is a rejection of a philosophy that calls us to be of service to our fellow man. The illuminati don't want to serve. They want all of us to serve them.
 

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They cannot be saved anymore... they have done their part. Their souls are done for... and they won't stop working for satan especially in these times... this includes every other famous person who sold out. They want all that fame and fortune regardless if they've had enough with their torture to continue said popularity, and since they get controlled that means they will REALLY work hard for satan and try to damn as many souls as they can, and with that, they will also be joining their worshippers in eternal torment. Selling your soul is kind of the same as getting the mark of the beast. If you have that mark, you belong to satan, and just like when you sell your soul, you can buy whatever you please but regardless, you're damned. Also, there's a 100% chance every sellout in this planet will receive the mark because they already worship satan to begin with. That means they don't have a chance to go to heaven anymore.
I saw a website that Justin Bieber had converted to a Christian I couldn't believe it because he couldn't get out of satanism like that
 

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It sounds reasonable, loving yourself can only be good, right? But there is a subtle difference in what they are pushing vs. what is actually good. "Loving yourself" is the kindler, gentler presentation of "do what thou wilt". Do what makes you happy! Be yourself! Even if you make other people uncomfortable or cause friction in society -- it doesn't matter -- just do you! That isn't how life actually works. The only way you can ever just "do what thou wilt" is if you live by yourself in a remote area. If you live in a civilization, you have to make trade offs for the common good. Just like we don't walk around completely naked and why we have traffic laws and any other number of things -- for the common good. Sure, laws/rules can get excessive or some can be completely nonsensical -- but that doesn't mean that having laws/restrictions is completely a bad thing. You fine tune what is wrong, you don't dismiss the entire structure, though.

"Loving yourself" if taken too far leads to narcissism. And what a sad commentary that so many think that no one will love them except themselves. Self love is fine, but it doesn't compare to loving someone else and being loved in return. And I'm not talking about just romantic love. The greatest love I have ever felt is the love I have for my children. But I have loved friends and my dogs, too. And I love strangers enough that I would never intentionally hurt them -- physically or emotionally. Love is the recognition that others feel and are just as important as I am. That is a huge concept that humans develop as they mature. Those pushing self-centered love wish to keep us mentally stunted and more easily controlled by keeping us from seeing one another as equals. We are encouraged to think of others as just bit players in the story of our own life. Or worse, people trying to stop us from being happy.

The concept in religion about "submission" to God is really just a recognition that this world is fleeting and that there is a higher power than ourselves. Admitting that keeps us from thinking that we are god. The illuminati takes the opposite view -- instead of man worshiping God, we are supposed to realize that we are gods ourselves. The occult is all about materialism -- an obsession with the worldly: fame, money, power. In order to amass great wealth and power, you have to be able to only care about yourself. It is hard to become super wealthy if you aren't comfortable with ripping people off or breaking the rules to get an advantage. Religion is the counter to that: it rejects the worldly concerns in favor of the spiritual. Religion is a man made institution, so of course it is not perfect. As they say, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The power of the church was abused just as much as any secular power has been. But, the values of religion (even though not always practiced by those claiming faith) are still superior to the materialistic occult values being preached by the media which is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the occultists/satanists at this point.

Those at the top reject God -- but not because they don't believe in him. They just choose to take the opposite path in order to gain wealth and power in this world. It is a rejection of a philosophy that calls us to be of service to our fellow man. The illuminati don't want to serve. They want all of us to serve them.
That's so true, I keep telling atheists who know about the occult and elites of this world that even the highest of the highest bloodlines believe in God, they just reject him because they do not want to humble themselves to him. They want to be worshipped by the masses and they really want to have the riches of this world. Fame and fortune can buy you anything but happiness and fulfillment. What atheists need to realize is that they are trying to keep us from believing and knowing God, so that we can worship them. The elites are slick, but they ain't that slick. If you really look into what's going on, it is easy to see what's going on.
 
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hello everyonee issa newbie heree. ive been following this thread for a while now and i wasnt planning on making an account but i did have a few questions and opinions that i think would only be appropriate to voice out here, so yeah might be dumb but oh well

idk if anyone has ever asked this but why do celebrities have to show that theyre a part of the illuminati or wtv that shit is even though ofc they know that the general population hates the devil and shit like this? why cant they just keep it lowkey and to themselves? do these symbolisms in videos help attract people or are they just there to make us realize that theyre a part of the occult? it just doesnt make sense to me
also with the mk ultra programming thing, why do they have to color their hair after they did a part of the program? like why do they have to go blonde after reprogramming? is it a part of the process or is it to show the others that they did it already? a girl is still confused

and also could the reason why jaykay said tht he doesnt like dying his hair other colors bcs “he had his own preference” be bcs he hadnt gone through any of the mk ultra programming? he dyed his hair red then purple the first time during dope era if im not wrong and then blonde before pink.

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i might be totally wrong in this one but heres my thought. beetees sold their soul bcs they couldnt pay off their debts even after years and years of being in this industry?
ok maybe they have been planning this whole thing from the start but what if they only rlly sold their soul and joined the occult during bs&t era hence the reason why old fans stopped stanning them after this era and said that theyve changed, and they started rlly blowing off at this time. i mean with the whole debt thing especially the fucking sick kpop slave industry shit it wouldnt be a surprise how much debt they have piling on top of each other so they might rlly have no other choice. but idk my theory sucks and dont have any backups for it but eh just a thought
 
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old fans stopped stanning them after this era and they started rlly blowing off at this time. i mean with the whole debt thing especially the fucking sick kpop slave industry shit it wouldnt be a surprise how much they have to pay back so they might rlly have no other choice. but idk my theory sucks and dont have any backups for it but eh just a thought
It can be true as well. The industry lures in new puppets with gifts thus putting them in a position of constant recompense.
 

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guys, read this thread !


this is why i think bt$ wont come out :( although i wish they would, for the sake of their disbanment.
not to start shipping discussion but still wonder who is that gay couple exposed by kmedia in 2018 the post talk about
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he could be literally from any group.
It still a bit weird to me to imagine people date within the group, but that prob the case there
 

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not to start shipping discussion but still wonder who is that gay couple exposed by kmedia in 2018 the post talk about
View attachment 24390
he could be literally from any group.
It still a bit weird to me to imagine people date within the group, but that prob the case there
Dispatch never said this, it was a rumor going around but never spoken by Dispatch
And its always the same rumor (i think it goes back to 2016) fans keep bringing that rumor back every year

here is a post about it from 2016

https://aminoapps.com/c/k-pop/page/blog/gay-idol-couple-soon-to-be-revealed/bkIo_u0qBJG21bL8nLo6Be6B8XV5d0

and another from 2018

https://blog.kpopviral.com/post/169159499886/rumor-that-dispatch-unexpected-couple-of-2018-is
 

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Dispatch never said this, it was a rumor going around but never spoken by Dispatch
And its always the same rumor (i think it goes back to 2016) fans keep bringing that rumor back every year

here is a post about it from 2016

https://aminoapps.com/c/k-pop/page/blog/gay-idol-couple-soon-to-be-revealed/bkIo_u0qBJG21bL8nLo6Be6B8XV5d0

and another from 2018

https://blog.kpopviral.com/post/169159499886/rumor-that-dispatch-unexpected-couple-of-2018-is
Yeah, many people said it's jongkey (jonghyun and key)
 

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I don't think jb got out.
It is believed that many occultists pose as followers of mainstream religions to fool the masses.Just an opinion.
yes he is not out....JB is recording a new album and making songs with Ed Sheeran and Kanye West....he is far from being out
but rumor says he has some type of anxiety and he dont like to perform on stage....maybe too much drugs or who knows

But he cant stay out of the spotlight for long, all those celebrities get addicted to the fame
 
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Wow, I couldn't have said it better! This is the exact same message I'm focused on giving some people!
It sounds reasonable, loving yourself can only be good, right? But there is a subtle difference in what they are pushing vs. what is actually good. "Loving yourself" is the kindler, gentler presentation of "do what thou wilt". Do what makes you happy! Be yourself! Even if you make other people uncomfortable or cause friction in society -- it doesn't matter -- just do you! That isn't how life actually works. The only way you can ever just "do what thou wilt" is if you live by yourself in a remote area. If you live in a civilization, you have to make trade offs for the common good. Just like we don't walk around completely naked and why we have traffic laws and any other number of things -- for the common good. Sure, laws/rules can get excessive or some can be completely nonsensical -- but that doesn't mean that having laws/restrictions is completely a bad thing. You fine tune what is wrong, you don't dismiss the entire structure, though.

"Loving yourself" if taken too far leads to narcissism. And what a sad commentary that so many think that no one will love them except themselves. Self love is fine, but it doesn't compare to loving someone else and being loved in return. And I'm not talking about just romantic love. The greatest love I have ever felt is the love I have for my children. But I have loved friends and my dogs, too. And I love strangers enough that I would never intentionally hurt them -- physically or emotionally. Love is the recognition that others feel and are just as important as I am. That is a huge concept that humans develop as they mature. Those pushing self-centered love wish to keep us mentally stunted and more easily controlled by keeping us from seeing one another as equals. We are encouraged to think of others as just bit players in the story of our own life. Or worse, people trying to stop us from being happy.

The concept in religion about "submission" to God is really just a recognition that this world is fleeting and that there is a higher power than ourselves. Admitting that keeps us from thinking that we are god. The illuminati takes the opposite view -- instead of man worshiping God, we are supposed to realize that we are gods ourselves. The occult is all about materialism -- an obsession with the worldly: fame, money, power. In order to amass great wealth and power, you have to be able to only care about yourself. It is hard to become super wealthy if you aren't comfortable with ripping people off or breaking the rules to get an advantage. Religion is the counter to that: it rejects the worldly concerns in favor of the spiritual. Religion is a man made institution, so of course it is not perfect. As they say, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The power of the church was abused just as much as any secular power has been. But, the values of religion (even though not always practiced by those claiming faith) are still superior to the materialistic occult values being preached by the media which is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the occultists/satanists at this point.

Those at the top reject God -- but not because they don't believe in him. They just choose to take the opposite path in order to gain wealth and power in this world. It is a rejection of a philosophy that calls us to be of service to our fellow man. The illuminati don't want to serve. They want all of us to serve them.
 

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Not that related to the topic but this guy disgusts me. Not to mention the weird and gay vibes I get from him View attachment 24397View attachment 24398
I'm sorry for assuming, I'm not one to assume and frankly I dislike those who like to assume but this guy might also be in it. I mean look at the background, I understand that he can be anywhere pm, but it reminds me of the Freemason lodge. Look at it!

freemason+lodge.jpg

Even if it isn't, it is oddly similar to it. Also his eyes look very emotionless. You're right, he is giving off strange gay vibes just by his appearance, especially his eyes as I mentioned before. Oh and he's wearing black, white, and red. (His clothes/jewelry/hair) Those are the main colors of satanism I'm sure. White vs Black (Good vs Evil duality) and the red hair (Much like blood sacrifice)

Not to mention, he just creeps me out. Wouldn't want him near me. No, no.
 
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