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Eva01 said:
Bigbang name last till today, they were like the first in kpop as hiphop idol and still using that concept up until now. B+s and bigbang debut were like "what are they doing" because idol usually if not always are flower boys.

B+s songs until fire is legit in my opinion, first, i think its because they're too young back then so unlike debut bigbang they less manlier. but due to the years passed by they just keep lacking in testosterone, the rapline doing aegyo is the weird thing ever.

In weekly idol, they been teased as girlband by cony.


The sorcery part, its more powerful than shinee. With their blatant songs luc*fer and their entire concept as demon worshipping. They're not affected me, even when up until now i still remember some parts of stand by me lyric, which is shown how much i listened to the song on my daily basis. I'm not even joined their fans circle.
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I don't know kook was a teenager but the others where around 18-21 years old when they debuted. The did look younger than their age. B-b without doing crazy dance moves had a presence on stage. Later on they even had girl dancers, hugging them etc. No weird fan service there? Fans didn't mind that? I heard that before some fans committed suicide when they learned their "idol" had a gf.

On the other hand bt3 we can see had worked very hard since day one on their choreography etc. I feel like as much TH, h0pe loves aegyo rm and candy hates it but money is sweet? Being flower boys is easier than being a macho men doing crazy dance moves. They love doing extreme stuff. But now they aren't dancing as much as before because their skinny body can't handle that nonstop tour life.
I wonder who will replace them because time has come for a new "it" group.

By the way the host of that show act like predators its creepy, children watch that show?
 
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Many posts ago,I read someone theorising that bt5's massive profits could be a ploy to launder the money of politicians and others, which could be one of the reasons for the political support,especially against their enlistment.
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-870#post-185737
Just now,I read this blind item about a boyband that is being a front for moneylaundering for the executives behind it.
This got me thinking.Maybe that poster was right about it after all.
Also,in the comments of the blind,some were talking about bt5 and some were complaining about how they've become fed up with the ever present bt5 hashtags.Some even said that bt5 will soon crash and burn(or suicide) and that the blowout will definitely be spectacular.
Here's the blind,I mentioned:
"This boy band has been around for a number of years now with almost no success. They have everything going for them and one of the best teams in the world behind them. Why haven't they disbanded? It is a way to launder money for some of the executives behind the group with all of their own companies billing them for work or services that don't exist."
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That description sounds like NCT though, total flop, SM the biggest Kpop company behind them and a gazillion members. I always thought they were a front for a prostitution ring cause SM keeps pushing them with a terrible concept and no success in either Korea or abroad. To make things worse they keep adding members. If one disappears no one will know :eek: This is especially suspicious coming after major groups like Super Junior, GG Exo and Shinee... and their CEO was busted for having some ghost companies which matches a money laundering plot.
 
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It is about a western boyband.I just mentioned it because it reminded me of some poster's theory about moneylaundering.
The blind didn't mention the word 'foreign' so it's most likely a us band.
Under the blind,many are guessing that the band is 'why don't we' or 'pretty much'.Not many hits but still doing their thing.
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I still believe that theory is true for NCT as well. Never understood why SM keeps pushing them the way they do, considering their lack of success. Also their year book is the creepiest thing yet. Why are there so many members and keep adding? Are they male h00kers?
 
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Also,in the comments of the blind,some were talking about bt5 and some were complaining about how they've become fed up with the ever present bt5 hashtags.Some even said that bt5 will soon crash and burn(or suicide) and that the blowout will definitely be spectacular.
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is this the comment?

"BTS's inevitable crash and burn can't happen fast enough for me. I can't take their Twitter hashtags anymore. I don't love Joonnam. I don't care what color NamJoon's hair is. God those freaks get on my nerves".

lol its true tho...we talked about all the hashtags before and the public see them trending everyday and wonders whats so special about these guys

This can be a good promotion tactic but also causes an over exposition that becomes negative
I think its something similar that whats happening to Carbi B right now... people are becoming sick of seeing her everyday and her songs are not doing that well on the charts
 
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is this the comment?

"BTS's inevitable crash and burn can't happen fast enough for me. I can't take their Twitter hashtags anymore. I don't love Joonnam. I don't care what color NamJoon's hair is. God those freaks get on my nerves".

lol its true tho...we talked about all the hashtags before and the public see them trending everyday and wonders whats so special about these guys

This can be a good promotion tactic but also causes an over exposition that becomes negative
I think its something similar that whats happening to Carbi B right now... people are becoming sick of seeing her everyday and her songs are not doing that well on the charts
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bruh, even to this day i still wonder why bts havent flopped yet, theyre literally a joke to everyone but armys, they just keep pushing to our faces how "perfect" bts are, bts are nothing but a joke without armys "powers" to try and make them relevant.

no one :
literally no one :
not a single soul :
not a single organism in this universe :
not even God :
bts : *breathes*
armys : OMG WE GOTTA MAKE THIS A HASHTAG #STANBTS THEYRE JUST SO PERFECT UGH WE STAN!!! EVERYONE HAS TO LOVE THEM OR WE WILL TEAR THEM APART HEEHEE WE ARE INEVITABLE BIGBANG WHO? SHINEE WHO? BTS ARE THE ONLY LEGENDS #STREAMBTS HEEHEE!!!! ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
 
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Надя said:
How rude it may sound, but I hope that Bighit, Bts and his entire office will soon collapse. Everything will be better from this.
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Amen sisss !!!
i think bigshit will collapse sooner or later, people already noticed how dirty they are and i believe they have a lot going on under the curtains so i dont doubt they will collapse soon, someone might expose their dirty works, and bts is getting old like bruh, no wonder why bigshit keeps doing those childlike photoshoots, they really tried to push them to the ped0s but i dont think they want them no more because theyre hella old, almost 30, and i cant stand them being relevant, like please just disband already, no one wants to see them anymore, they cant even dance and sing no more, their whole show is a joke but armys kept seeing it as "perfect as always" yikes imagine having a rose colored glasses on everytime bts appeared, cant relate.
 
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I still believe that theory is true for NCT as well. Never understood why SM keeps pushing them the way they do, considering their lack of success. Also their year book is the creepiest thing yet. Why are there so many members and keep adding? Are they male h00kers?
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The presentation that was made to introduce the first members of N_CT, shows perfectly what happens. Inspired by the AKB48 Japanese women's group, whose members are each time renewed, to become a mythical group of Japan. The N_CT the Neo Culture Technology that can recall the name of the new city at the forefront of technology, named Neom. They create subgroups but instead of conquering their country, they conquer the world. The name Neo can refer to the movie Matrix, which talks about robots taking care of men who live only in a fake world, and turning humans into piles. In addition to the group M_onsta X which makes a reference in Dramarama. He also has T_XT which makes it a reference in Crown, when they have to take their costume (weapons in Matrix). He also has a reference to the fact, instead of presenting a group he presents robots, AI, their hearts are green and in the clip Someone puts L_EDApple by chance, where again in an EXO vcr, men are control while the AIs are free, see the two articles that I have already written on it, the one about the color of Jonghyun and it with the GD clip, it's about AI: https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/because-jonghyun-deserved-better.3858/page-9#post-208787:
 
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The presentation that was made to introduce the first members of N_CT, shows perfectly what happens. Inspired by the AKB48 Japanese women's group, whose members are each time renewed, to become a mythical group of Japan. The N_CT the Neo Culture Technology that can recall the name of the new city at the forefront of technology, named Neom. They create subgroups but instead of conquering their country, they conquer the world. The name Neo can refer to the movie Matrix, which talks about robots taking care of men who live only in a fake world, and turning humans into piles. In addition to the group M_onsta X which makes a reference in Dramarama. He also has T_XT which makes it a reference in Crown, when they have to take their costume (weapons in Matrix). He also has a reference to the fact, instead of presenting a group he presents robots, AI, their hearts are green and in the clip Someone puts L_EDApple by chance, where again in an EXO vcr, men are control while the AIs are free, see the two articles that I have already written on it, the one about the color of Jonghyun and it with the GD clip, it's about AI:https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/because-jonghyun-deserved-better.3858/page-9#post-208787:
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Actually, i think the concept of b+s also similar to 48family. They don't changed their members but how they been presented themself to the fans it is. They have their own variety shows, run and their yutub videos it makes fans feels closer to them, its the same feeling with the grow together with fans. How their fans always tried to make b+s being number one in everything, streaming and buying album it feels like they treated a host. And now they launch otome game, 48 made them years ago and its succeed amongst fans.




Japan, korea, and china made it years ago. Ai solved aging and exhausted singers. In fact, quarter of my playlist consists these ai singers.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1136789845987143682

lol so powerful....now BTS and their CEO can decide who wins a grammy...
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That's so weird tbh. How powerful are they that something like this can happen?! Coming from someone who lives in the U.S BT$ may seem popular because of the media but bts and other kpop groups aren't as popular as they seem. In real life no one cares/talks about kpop the way the media makes it out to be. People just think of it as a trend that'll die down soon. Rap, hip hop, and pop culture are still dominant in terms of popularity and people just use kpop groups for clout because they have dedicated and obsessed fans. In school if you ask about kpop no one really cares or knows what that is but there are a few. For any kpop act to be popular(as in everyone is talking about them and singing their song), their song would actually have to chart and be played everywhere. Online its easy to finds the fans and they seem like they're everywhere but go outside and you'll realize it's not as big as you thought. Of course they still have a lot of fans but so does every fandom. Also the connection with BTS and the Grammys seems a little sketchy. Army's and bts were trying sooooooo hard to get bye a grammy, they were desperate too but it didn't really work out the way they thought it would. Now all of a sudden they have a part in choosing who'll win?! I really wonder who's backing this group because whoever it is must be powerful.
 
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LoW kEy said:
That's so weird tbh. How powerful are they that something like this can happen?! Coming from someone who lives in the U.S BT$ may seem popular because of the media but bts and other kpop groups aren't as popular as they seem. In real life no one cares/talks about kpop the way the media makes it out to be. People just think of it as a trend that'll die down soon. Rap, hip hop, and pop culture are still dominant in terms of popularity and people just use kpop groups for clout because they have dedicated and obsessed fans. In school if you ask about kpop no one really cares or knows what that is but there are a few. For any kpop act to be popular(as in everyone is talking about them and singing their song), their song would actually have to chart and be played everywhere. Online its easy to finds the fans and they seem like they're everywhere but go outside and you'll realize it's not as big as you thought. Of course they still have a lot of fans but so does every fandom. Also the connection with BTS and the Grammys seems a little sketchy. Army's and bts were trying sooooooo hard to get bye a grammy, they were desperate too but it didn't really work out the way they thought it would. Now all of a sudden they have a part in choosing who'll win?! I really wonder who's backing this group because whoever it is must be powerful.
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yes, BTS sell a lot of albums but like you said their music is not known to the public. They are not relevant in the music scene, but now the Grammys are making them members and they can decide who wins o_O
They have a position of power....out of nowhere.....and how does this work if they get nominated? I imagine them and their CEO cant vote in that case

the grammys never had respect or consideration for other boybands so I wonder what makes BTS different...we can only imagine the things they do to get these privileges
 
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Found this explanation on allkp0p unpopular opinion thread.It seemed plausible.

"BTS being invited to be members of the academy left me confused until I remembered that BTS being invited is mainly because they’re Asian and foreign. The Grammys want to appear as if they care about diversity and are welcoming to a non English speaking Asian foreign group. Basically trying to convince people they’re not racist. BTS was also invited to present at the Grammys for that same reason and if they are ever nominated would be mainly for that reason as well."

You can see that this invitation left a lot of people confused about bt5's real worth.But,they are seeing it for what it is.'They' can't fool people with this media play any longer.
Time is ticking for toxic trio.
Tick Tock Tick Tock.;)
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They were invited because they are the hype "it" group which is pushed at the moment by "people". This is really the reason why they are everywhere and not because of their hard work. I'm not saying they didn't work hard, just that they are being pushed by a lot of "people". Also they want young people to acknowledge and have an interest in the grammys. People are dummer than you might think lol. This is the harsh reality.

Blinded fans talking about how they changed their life and rescued them from depression. This idea is almost forced upon them. Like if you say a lie a couple of times you start begining that its actually real. Never forget to use your brain and logic. People nowdays have stoped using their brains, they are just eating up whatever media etc are telling them and its kindda scary.

Nobody is talking about who's going to replace them. But the new "it" group should have been chosen by now.
 
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Yes.Goebbels' philosophy,I know.:)
As for the next 'it' group,there have been a lot of talk about the new 'nct' gr0up,that recently toured us.
And then,there was 'ate3z' which already has a deal with sony,their company has ties with bigshit in a very long and indirect way,they have a similar growth arc to bt5 and @Dove28 said that their chart looks a lot like that of bt5 especially about attracting public attention.
Not to forget 'monst@x' which is literally mimicking everything bt5,including their new logo changes.
I don't think t*t has it in them to make it big,but who knows what was planned.
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I remember seeing monst@x sitting next to jamal at some award show they looked like models. But they are kindda old? And I bet the new it group will know how to speak english.

According to billboards the best new kpop acts are

(G)I-dl3 and Str@y kid3.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/k-town/8491744/best-new-k-pop-acts-2018

And this is str@y kid3 latest trailer


 
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I think this is a nice way for them to say we are not giving you a grammy, but you may join the voting committee instead. I may be wrong but if you are in the voting committee you cannot vote for yourself, hence no nominations.
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yes, now I read is a membership for one year so it looks like the Grammys gave them this because they are not thinking about giving them a nomination

just an excuse to invite them to the ceremony and make them perform (give the fans a reason to watch)
we have to wait and see if they accept the membership.....that would mean no nomination and they really want that award so...
 
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