Are They Taking Public Safety to Far?

4ft3rm4th

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Am I not used to this timeline or are we about to trade more liberties for safety? I think all of this crosswalk safety BS is about the government gaining access to your devices and/or a way of giving credence to something that they already are doing. To understand my reasoning for thinking this, you gotta watch the vid because I'm not typing it all out.

 
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4ft3rm4th

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Safety is the "good" reason....extorting money is the "real" reason.
I've been thinking about this and believe it's also about gaining access to your devices. It's also about trusting the government because they know what's best for us.
 

Scars512

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Am I not used to this timeline or are we about to trade more liberties for safety? I think all of this crosswalk safety BS is about the government gaining access to your devices and/or a way of giving credence to something that they already are doing. To understand my reasoning for thinking this, you gotta watch the vid because I'm not typing it all out.

I just came back from a visit to NYC and I can tell you that the police there do not give a f*ck what the pedestrians are doing. Or the cars for that matter. They aren't going to enforce something like this unless they do it the way they give out tickets with stoplight cameras. My bet is that they start with this law which seems harmless enough and somewhat common sense -- I mean, duh, don't look at your phone and try to cross the street. But implementation will require some sort of automated system to catch everyone or else it is useless. As Lurker said, it is likely to be just a money grab since everything in NYC is about squeezing every last cent out of you. But in cases of "persons of interest", it could be used to gather information or track you.
 

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I just came back from a visit to NYC and I can tell you that the police there do not give a f*ck what the pedestrians are doing. Or the cars for that matter. They aren't going to enforce something like this unless they do it the way they give out tickets with stoplight cameras. My bet is that they start with this law which seems harmless enough and somewhat common sense -- I mean, duh, don't look at your phone and try to cross the street. But implementation will require some sort of automated system to catch everyone or else it is useless. As Lurker said, it is likely to be just a money grab since everything in NYC is about squeezing every last cent out of you. But in cases of "persons of interest", it could be used to gather information or track you.
Senator Tim Kennedy said, "I don't support the concept in its current form, it appears to me as though this is an overreach of government." I think Tim Kennedy was alluding to some sort of automated system that gains access to your phone and
- can tell if your looking at it
- what your looking at
- where your at
- what your doing
I can imagine someone looking at thier phone while they're crossing the street and getting some sort of pop up that reads, "you've just been issued a ticket." Kinda like in Demolition man:
 

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If you get a message from the "app" to stop or what ever. Doesn't that actually make you look at the phone and distract you?
Being so technologically dependent to that extent cannot be a good thing..
 

4ft3rm4th

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If you get a message from the "app" to stop or what ever. Doesn't that actually make you look at the phone and distract you?
Being so technologically dependent to that extent cannot be a good thing..
That's what the app does in Japan, but in New York I think they just want to issue you a fine, if they an app catches you looking at your phone near an intersection.
 
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