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Great analysis everyone. I wish I could contribute more in the thread, but honestly I'm learning more than anything. Sorry for that. Lmao I feel ignorant around you people.
For me you already participate enormously, like those who are just reading, they can already talk about them, and that's already huge. To tell you I also had a lot of trouble posting topics on the forum, I spend on it since 2013 (2012 or before ...). But I created a real account that since last year, and yet I always noticed the symbols, it must be said that does not arrange to live next to furniture Freemasons ...
 

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Do any of you have insider stories about bts? Maybe how they might do drugs or party or something? Heard a true story about this other kpop idol group so I wndered...
I have "sasaengs " info most likely fake. I think. Dm if you want.
But overally there is no way to get real info abt them unless they say it themself since agency is so careful about everything. Bts is their only bread.
Txt will probably flop, there was some hype around them now its kind of dead..they have no real fans sadly, only armys a bit interested but who stan mainly bts
 

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Aw thanks, I agree with you, even the silent readers are helpful because that means more people aware of this I think. Hahaha I realize I've started to notice symbols everywhere too. Do you live near those people?
My cousin the Freemasons and my father joined the Organization Of Saint Lazarus Of Jérusalem. Enter by a member, among others who are in Freemasonry.I try to get them out of there, but the furniture is the furniture that an ancestor to bring home. And I'm not sure if he has any more. Even though I also have my father's uncle who is and continues to do so ruined by Freemasonry.
 

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My cousin the Freemasons and my father joined the Organization Of Saint Lazarus Of Jérusalem. Enter by a member, among others who are in Freemasonry.I try to get them out of there, but the furniture is the furniture that an ancestor to bring home. And I'm not sure if he has any more. Even though I also have my father's uncle who is and continues to do so ruined by Freemasonry.
I just remembered that a lot of Freemasons came to us, members or people close to my family. I know he was a Freemason because of their handshake, which I took back firmly … He even has one who according to my mother (but she is not sure) who was even Nazi.
 

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Ah, I see. If it was their decision to join these groups... there's nothing you could do, it's up to them. So I hope you don't feel bad for that. You even tried to get them out there :) It's still inexplicable for me how certain secret groups gained such power to be capable of rule the world.
I tend to never give up, and even if its their decision, I will continue (I tend to suck the bad energy easily enough and that I live it badly ...). So even if I leave them in his organizations I can not completely ignore, I try tons of times to ignore what happens, but these that makes me depressed … And I'm not really alone, he has my mother, who helps me to convince my father, for my cousin, she says it's useless.
 

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Did you watch this video. It's from their debut days. The hip hop community of Korea is debating with Monster and sugar. How can they do hip hop with make up on and dressing like a girl.

Monster says he doesn't like it but have to. Sugar explains that back in his hometown he had to starve every night which was very hard. Even if he wrote and sold one song he couldn't even get 10 won.

So they were saying that they sold themselves for money? They aren't writing their songs anymore. And since then makeup and the clothes they are wearing is way more feminine. Specially in the new mv.

Watch from 4:39


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I guess money is more powerful that anybodies moral values.




How disappointing.
 

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Noooooooooo i love dimash
But... he has a big fanbase in china... also, i watched an interview with his mother and his parents are always together in everything he does. He seems really traditional, and so hes family. Maaaybe he only did the video because he had to?
I love Dimash too … It must be remembered that his parents are extremely famous in their country …
 

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I used to be interested in mythology in the past and since they came out with a song called Dionysus I naturally had to see what it was about, me being very curious since I’ve been dropped on this planet.

Well, first of all he was a god.

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And as it’s mentioned he had an androgynous look going on. Maybe that’s why they dressed up as straight up girls in the mv.

Apparently he was also the one who thought Icarus how to make wine. I know they’ve mentioned Icarus a lot before.

Now this Dionysus had a very specific item.

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This thing is... interesting


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What I also found interesting about the thyrsus is the pine cone.

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Third eye and all that.


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Anyways we gotta love how in the chorus they say “grip it” after mentioning the thyrsus and how Jk mentioned he “broke it”. Also the last sentence in Korean means “now I’m born again”....


Idk if they’ve ever had a song with such a vulgar meaning before. They’re usually subtle about those things but I guess they got tired of it.
 

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I used to be interested in mythology in the past and since they came out with a song called Dionysus I naturally had to see what it was about, me being very curious since I’ve been dropped on this planet.

Well, first of all he was a god.

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And as it’s mentioned he had an androgynous look going on. Maybe that’s why they dressed up as straight up girls in the mv.

Apparently he was also the one who thought Icarus how to make wine. I know they’ve mentioned Icarus a lot before.

Now this Dionysus had a very specific item.

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This thing is... interesting


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What I also found interesting about the thyrsus is the pine cone.

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Third eye and all that.


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Anyways we gotta love how in the chorus they say “grip it” after mentioning the thyrsus and how Jk mentioned he “broke it”. Also the last sentence in Korean means “now I’m born again”....


Idk if they’ve ever had a song with such a vulgar meaning before. They’re usually subtle about those things but I guess they got tired of it.

Wow. And Joon was holding a thyrsus at the beginning of the performance.
 

Hopeful

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I mean.. it could not be more obvious!!!
Those 2 jimins on the thumbnail of that video bother me whenever i see them anywhere.. I mean it could have been another member with him or him alone but why 2? Trying to clone him? Or maybe just he is favored by that someone in Mnet who wants his face all over tha place more than Once

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Deadlylady

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I mean.. it could not be more obvious!!!

In this song they keep doing the horn sign. Like it means I love you. Jk making this sign and gesturing to follow him into hell I guess.

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Those 2 jimins on the thumbnail of that video bother me whenever i see them anywhere.. I mean it could have been another member with him or him alone but why 2? Trying to clone him? Or maybe just he is favored by that someone in Mnet who wants his face all over tha place more than Once

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I think they put Jamal twice because he is the most androgenous looking one. He danced like a girl in the last mv.
While Vee is representing a "deity" called Kali in hinduism. The occult is into this stuff since their other celebrities have being doing stuff like that too.

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The color blue does not flatter his skin tone. This makes him look way more yellow than usual. And I don't think it was a coincidence that they dyed his hair blue. He sticks his tongue very quicky you can't even notice it if you don't stop the video.




Kali: She is more commonly known as the goddess of death and doomsday. She is often associated with violence and sexuality. As an embodiment of time, Kali devours all things. She is irresistibly attractive to mortals and gods She is one of the most widely recognized Hindu goddesses today and one of the few to whom blood sacrifices are still made.

https://mythology.net/hindu/hindu-gods/kali/
https://www.ancient.eu/Kali/

I used to be interested in mythology in the past and since they came out with a song called Dionysus I naturally had to see what it was about, me being very curious since I’ve been dropped on this planet.

Well, first of all he was a god.

View attachment 20899

And as it’s mentioned he had an androgynous look going on. Maybe that’s why they dressed up as straight up girls in the mv.

Apparently he was also the one who thought Icarus how to make wine. I know they’ve mentioned Icarus a lot before.

Now this Dionysus had a very specific item.

View attachment 20900

This thing is... interesting


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What I also found interesting about the thyrsus is the pine cone.

View attachment 20902

Third eye and all that.


View attachment 20904


Anyways we gotta love how in the chorus they say “grip it” after mentioning the thyrsus and how Jk mentioned he “broke it”. Also the last sentence in Korean means “now I’m born again”....


Idk if they’ve ever had a song with such a vulgar meaning before. They’re usually subtle about those things but I guess they got tired of it.

So that fan was right. They are not writting the lyrics anymore. They have reach a pick in their fame which from now on they can get bigger or the same. Since they will be protected and supported. Till their fame lasts they will be used in every way possible.


If we are going to talk about this stick.
Even "holly-wood" name origin is from a stick/staff used in magic I heard.


"The thyrsus and the ivy
Dionysos is considered to be a god of fertility, especially the lush growth of grapevines, ivy and other green plants.
The thyrsus which the god carries is sometimes a fennelstalk topped by a pine coneand wrapped in ivy
The maenads, followers of Dionysos, pound the ground with the thyrsus, which drips honey and causes milk and wine to gush up from the earth; a phenomenon into which it is not difficult to read sexual symbolism."
(Euripedes, lines 700-715)

https://allaboutheaven.org/symbols/thyrsus/123


"The thyrsus, associated with Dionysus (or Bacchus) and his followers, the Satyrs and Maenads, is a symbol of prosperity, fertility, hedonism, and pleasure/enjoyment in general. Sometimes the thyrsus was displayed in conjunction with a kantharos wine cup, another symbol of Dionysus, forming a male-and-female combination like that of the royal scepter and orb."

https://www.jessewaugh.com/museum-of-pulchrism-blog/2016/12/15/thyrsus



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https://www.thecrownchronicles.co.uk/explanation/symbols-of-monarchy-sovereigns-orb-and-sceptre/



On the other hand it's funny because in my country when boys get circumcised they have a big party and they wear something like this.

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Going back to the song itself. I mean what a great message for the youth right?



And I almost forgot this. Monster did this before in an award show and now in the mv. Jim Carey did the same thing before. Does it have the same meaning?? Who knows.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=eG9i7d8yfKQ


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Hopeful

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In this song they keep doing the horn sign. Like it means I love you. Jk making this sign and gesturing to follow him into hell I guess.

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I think they put Jamal twice because he is the most androgenous looking one. He danced like a girl in the last mv.
While Vee is representing a "deity" called Kali in hinduism. The occult is into this stuff since their other celebrities (Beyonce, Miley etc) have being doing stuff like that too.


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The color blue does not flatter his skin tone. This makes him look way more yellow than usual. And I don't think it was a coincidence that they dyed his hair blue. He sticks his tongue very quicky you can't even notice it if you don't stop the video.




Kali: She is more commonly known as the goddess of death and doomsday. She is often associated with violence and sexuality. As an embodiment of time, Kali devours all things. She is irresistibly attractive to mortals and gods She is one of the most widely recognized Hindu goddesses today and one of the few to whom blood sacrifices are still made.

https://mythology.net/hindu/hindu-gods/kali/
https://www.ancient.eu/Kali/




So that fan was right. They are not writting the lyrics anymore. They have reach a pick in their fame which from now on they can get bigger or the same. Since they will be protected and supported. Till their fame lasts they will be used in every way possible.


If we are going to talk about this stick.
Even "holly-wood" name origin is from a stick/staff used in magic I heard.


"The thyrsus and the ivy
Dionysos is considered to be a god of fertility, especially the lush growth of grapevines, ivy and other green plants.
The thyrsus which the god carries is sometimes a fennelstalk topped by a pine coneand wrapped in ivy
The maenads, followers of Dionysos, pound the ground with the thyrsus, which drips honey and causes milk and wine to gush up from the earth; a phenomenon into which it is not difficult to read sexual symbolism."
(Euripedes, lines 700-715)

https://allaboutheaven.org/symbols/thyrsus/123


"The thyrsus, associated with Dionysus (or Bacchus) and his followers, the Satyrs and Maenads, is a symbol of prosperity, fertility, hedonism, and pleasure/enjoyment in general. Sometimes the thyrsus was displayed in conjunction with a kantharos wine cup, another symbol of Dionysus, forming a male-and-female combination like that of the royal scepter and orb."

https://www.jessewaugh.com/museum-of-pulchrism-blog/2016/12/15/thyrsus



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https://www.thecrownchronicles.co.uk/explanation/symbols-of-monarchy-sovereigns-orb-and-sceptre/



On the other hand it's funny because in my country when boys get circumcised they have a big party and they wear something like this.

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Going back to the song itself. I mean what a great message for the youth right?



And I almost forgot this. Monster did this before in an award show and now in the mv. Jim Carey did the same thing before. Does it have the same meaning?? Who knows.

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Wow.. Jim cari was making a triangle with hands and that's awfully similar to J00n's sign.. That sure is a triangle too.
In tha namjin photo his belt has the ouroboros on it's buckle.. Must be the same brand as the purse
Regarding V's hair color he was asked today about it and he said he wanted this color and now he changed it to a darker blue shade because he liked it on some other picture and he got it too.. Most probably a fan's edit

But as @Diamond gave us a very good post about the mv and told us about the ped0 logo colors.. That blue fits so well withh his pink clothes if they're offering themselves or just symbolizing that.. And the tongue at the start can also be a type of trying to seduce the elites who are dirty people addicted to wrong rituals
 

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Wow.. Jim cari was making a triangle with hands and that's awfully similar to J00n's sign.. That sure is a triangle too.
In tha namjin photo his belt has the ouroboros on it's buckle.. Must be the same brand as the purse
Regarding V's hair color he was asked today about it and he said he wanted this color and now he changed it to a darker blue shade because he liked it on some other picture and he got it too.. Most probably a fan's edit
Nice catch I didn't notice the belt.

I don't think Vee has chosen that color. That story is probably fake. His hair light or dark or any shades of blue, I bet he will continue to wear that for sometimes. He has dyed his hair blue before so that's not new. So why he is saying I saw this color somewhere and I wanted to do it. Like this was the first time he did it? This is fishy, no?

Translation by a fan: “About V’s hair colour - did you choose it yourself? A TMI”
: TMI? Actually, this colour is one that I chose. Originally, it was another colour, but after I saw a photo of blue hair, I said “I must do this!” and so I did it!"

When he had blue hair before:

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Hardcore bt3 fans in their home country spending more than 5000 $ on merch etc. And their parents also fooled are supporting and becoming fan themselves. She said she had to skip meals and stop hanging out with friends to afford the merch. This is crazy! Then I bet it wasn't enough so she started a youtube channel. And she says thanks to them I started liking filming so now I'm studying or will study film.




In their second performance they are wearing black cloak this time. Then they are wearing suits. The atmosphere feels like they are in hell. Pillars in the back. There is also fire around them. But doing this stuff with symbolism or whatever what does it really mean what does it achieve that's what I wonder?? Are they putting a spell on people by doing this?

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