Is there a possibility for Islamic reform to a moral ideology after all?

Gnostic Christian Bishop

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Is there a possibility for Islamic reform to a moral ideology after all?

Islam has the vilest and most immoral ideology on the planet, IMO. Honor murders, apostate murders, gay murders and permanent bodily damage as punishments leading in why I think Islam so immoral and vile.

I am pleased though to see some slight progress in Islam, in the form of women finally taking a role they should have taken 50 years ago.

True that reform is being implemented away from belligerent Muslim majority countries, but I see what this link shows as the straw that will break the back of Islam’s obtuse right wing resistance to moral change.

https://www.memri.org/tv/paris-mosque-gender-unveiled-gays-future-imam-kahina-bahloul-islam-coercion-orientation-personal

Thumbs up to KAHINA BAHLOUL for showing Muslims the beauty and superior morality supressed by Islam’s right wing sector.

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This kind of colonialism may be worse than the old kind of colonialism.
 
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JoChris said:
If Muslims will not give into LGBTQ+ programs in UK schools there is no chance. Lipstick on a pig (softening some rules on women) does not make it a non-pig.

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So you're a Christian promoting homosexuality?? What part of the Bible is that? You're a munafiq Christian.

Your ideology in this regard is clearly "white man's burden" first and anything related to the Bible second.

And what adds an extra Satanic layer to the Satanism you're promoting is that you're promoting for homosexuality to be promoted to kids.

Thank God for Muslims! If this is what Christians are about, Christians are no more than the devil's servants- if not devils themselves.
 
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Etagloc said:
So you're a Christian promoting homosexuality?? What part of the Bible is that? You're a munafiq Christian.

Your ideology in this regard is clearly "white man's burden" first and anything related to the Bible second.

And what adds an extra Satanic layer to the Satanism you're promoting is that you're promoting for homosexuality to be promoted to kids.

Thank God for Muslims! If this is what Christians are about, Christians are no more than the devil's servants- if not devils themselves.
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You sure have a good imagination, managing to get that idea from my extremely short entry which was focused on actually **answering** the question.

I didn't expect you would watch the video.
Islam taking an anti-LGBTQ+ stance in UK public education shows that even Muslims are occasionally in agreement with bible believing Christians.

If Christians were the ones saying "no" then their wishes would be ignored.

Your distraction tactics are blatantly obvious Etagloc. No **genuine** Muslim will ever back down on Islam's anti-homosexual position.

Are you pro-gay despite what the Quran says? e.g. https://quran.com/7/80-84

Do YOU Etagloc applaud Brunei actually obeying the Quran/ other islamic texts?

 
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As far as judging others is concerned, I know the Bible says nothing supporting a gay lifestyle. On the other hand, the sins of sinners of all kinds were placed on Jesus on the cross. Everyone needs a saviour, though most reject Him.

For those who will have none of it, a judgement far more just and severe than man can offer will come in "due time".

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Red Sky at Morning said:
As far as judging others is concerned, I know the Bible says nothing supporting a gay lifestyle. On the other hand, the sins of sinners of all kinds were placed on Jesus on the cross. Everyone needs a saviour, though most reject Him.

For those who will have none of it, a judgement far more just and severe than man can offer will come in "due time".

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More useless fantasy that serves my side better than yours as yours shows foolishness.

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Red Sky at Morning said:
1 Corinthians 1

18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
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Your god is quite the prick for condemning you unjustly and then saving you so that he could be your hero.

Is that how you have raised your children?

If so, you are not better than the genocidal son murdering prick you idol worship.

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Any reform is good and this is a positive step, but can you really reform something that is so rotten? (As all the Abrahamic religions are if taken literally)

After all, the reformation reduced Europe to cannibalism.
 
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Colonel Valerio said:
Any reform is good and this is a positive step, but can you really reform something that is so rotten? (As all the Abrahamic religions are if taken literally)

After all, the reformation reduced Europe to cannibalism.
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We have clipped Christianity's wings to a point where they are almost tolerable to moral people as long as they do not walk their more vile talk.

Islam can also be brought to heel. If they cannot, then we will have to destroy the religion.

The fact that a female Imam is now preaching to gays shows that Islam is not as belligerent and obtuse as it once was.

I trust that the newer generations will be more moral than the older generations.

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DL
 
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Gnostic Christian Bishop said:
We have clipped Christianity's wings to a point where they are almost tolerable to moral people as long as they do not walk their more vile talk.

Islam can also be brought to heel. If they cannot, then we will have to destroy the religion.

The fact that a female Imam is now preaching to gays shows that Islam is not as belligerent and obtuse as it once was.

I trust that the newer generations will be more moral than the older generations.

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DL
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I would be very interested in who the "we" you refer to are?

The ebb and flow of popularity of ideas in the public sphere is entirely separate from the objective truth of those ideas. The opinions of the general public living Nazi Germany perhaps illustrated this principle well.
 
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Asking us to do the reformation but you are not really being tolerant with our belief. We stand our ground that homosexuality is condemned but we don't force it on people, because punishing is the state's right.

And you do overgeneralization by quoting what Brunei did. They have their own law and justice system, it does not mean all states that have Islamic population would abide the same protocols.

It is important to obey the law and revolution is very much the last resort.

Unity is a must. Even with the other religions. That's why in real life, the attitude towards gay people is simply ignoring them. We hate the sin not the sinner. If they are in trouble we are obliged to help them too.

If the state begins to promote law that allowing corruption, we must protest. It's our part. But that's it, because we will be asked in the day of judgement things we do against corruption.

We don't believe that there is a savior, who will erase our sins. Or carry the burden to salvage everyone.

Each individual is responsible to his/her deed.
 
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