"Mike Pence - US should do what Israel wants"

Colonel Valerio said:

No, but it helps and makes it easier to sell as policy. Ever heard of the war on drugs? Look what you do to Jews for being statistically successful is what white racists do to black people with crime statistics and what not. Ironically man a lot of people who push the it’s all da Joos theory also are pushing how violent and dangerous blacks are. I hope you understand that man.

I believe you can criticize Israel and I do, and I believe you can criticize powerful Jews without being anti-Semitic but that doesn’t mean there is not a shit ton of disgusting anti-Semitism. I oppose Zionism because it’s ethno-nationalist but get away from me with protocols and Holocaust denial.

Anyway there is a much bigger human rights catastrophe in its way and that is for my brothers and sisters the Kurds. Will they have anyone speaking for them? I don’t count on it.

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I think we can leave it at this for now. Good talk. Thanks.

Etagloc said:

Is the Godfather a movie that reflects on all Italians? Or is it a movie that reflects on some Italians? Is it not the case that some Italians are involved in the mafia?

In the same way, I say the Protocols reflects some Jews- not all. It is no more anti-Jewish than the Godfather is anti-Italian.

And is the ethnicity of the characters the point of the Godfather or is it the subject matter?

I am not advising people to watch the Godfather but I think any reasonable person should be able to watch the Godfather and understand that it's not about all Italians.

If we say the Protocols is off the table for examination, we should do the same for the Godfather, rap music, "Islamic" terrorism, new reports showing criminals who are minorities, etc. The implications would be absurd.

And it is telling that people can discuss the Godfather, people can discuss ISIS, people can discuss rap music- but let them discuss the Protocols and it's supposedly wrong.

My recommendation for people is- read the Protocols. Don't go off third-party discussion. Read it for yourself.

The Protocols indicts your Rothschild, Soros types- it's not a reflection of all Jews any more than the Godfather is a movie about all Italians.

I was having a discussion with a friend about the Protocols the other night. However, people who know me in real life can attest to how I cared for my Jewish neighbor. I never treated my neighbor any differently for being Jewish. We definitely had some ideological differences but people who know me can attest that I cared for my Jewish neighbor. We got into friendly arguments over ideas but it was never about race. And my friend I was discussing the Protocols with- he is a nice, friendly guy and I seriously doubt he would mistreat anyone for simply being Jewish.

The idea that anyone who reads the Protocols would mistreat anyone for simply being Jewish is simply not true. The Protocols is a book about the "elite". It is suppressed in order to suppress dissent against the so-called "elite".

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THE GODFATHER = Work of Fiction

They do have that in common.

elsbet said:

THE GODFATHER = Work of Fiction

They do have that in common.

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Missing the point.

Serveto said:

As I see it, with them, and speaking only of their category not their political designs, one is in the presence of a channeled document, much like those "Aiwass" sent Aleister Crowley and the "Ascended Masters" gave Blavatsky.

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I have come to the same conclusion. There is some kind of tone or style of writing to it that gives that impression.

Karlysymon said:

Very creepy video. I stopped at the 5:10 mark as i got a headache, maybe i'm just unwell. Iam trying to find some background information on the concept of the video and its originator.

I wish though that i could hear @Orwell's mentor scream "Noooo", because i know that feeling.....

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Hey you're the second person to say a song I've posted has given them a headache, somebody commented on another thread that A Perfect Circle song I posted gave both her AND her husband a headache....spooky.

Did you have any joy on unearthing anything interesting from the video? It's links to Freemasonry is as blatant as you can get, even down to the Masonic floor of the typing pool.

Awoken2 said:

Hey you're the second person to say a song I've posted has given them a headache, somebody commented on another thread that A Perfect Circle song I posted gave both her AND her husband a headache....spooky.

Did you have any joy on unearthing anything interesting from the video? It's links to Freemasonry is as blatant as you can get, even down to the Masonic floor of the typing pool.

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Whaaaaat? Spooky indeed....i can't even watch it again to unearth any symbolism. I'll pass. Seriously, Iam not pushing it but i actually had a horrible nightmare last night...mkultra related...the type where you can actually smell stuff and to the best of knowledge, i've never had a dream like that before. Iam now intrigued at who directed the video and/or came up with the concept....the wikipedia page is scant. This information would certainly reveal alot about the media we consume. Sickening, is all i can say.

Karlysymon said:

Whaaaaat? Spooky indeed....i can't even watch it again to unearth any symbolism. I'll pass. Seriously, Iam not pushing it but i actually had a horrible nightmare last night...mkultra related...the type where you can actually smell stuff and to the best of knowledge, i've never had a dream like that before. Iam now intrigued at who directed the video and/or came up with the concept....the wikipedia page is scant. This information would certainly reveal alot about the media we consume. Sickening, is all i can say.

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I'm really sorry about your bad experience. I have watched the video numerous times purely from a research point of view and have not encountered any adverse effects, none that I have noticed anyway.

Can I take this over to my Predictive Programming thread as it's not relevant to the OP?

Awoken2 said:

Can I take this over to my Predictive Programming thread as it's not relevant to the OP?

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That'd be great and i found something to post on it.....

Colonel Valerio said:

No he doesn’t have a point. The Mafia was an excuse to discriminate against Italians just like the Bloods and the Crips are an excuse to discriminate against blacks and the Protocols an excuse against Jews.

No this forum has a lot whether it’s admitted or not.

There are a lot of Jews in “elite” positions sure but smaller groups will always represent demographic extremes it’s just statistics. Asians are hugely successful by American standards too. Jews don’t represent a majority of power though or anywhere close. Some of the biggest bankers and business men are regular ol white guys and Asians. All peoples hold positions of power and I want to do something so that nobody but the people has power and that brother involves taking down Capitalism and the State.

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"Asians" aint asking Americans to sign loyalty pledges to their nations or else lose their jobs and/or disaster relief funding.......

This thread was about Pence and his ridiculous capitulations to Israel...... yet surprise surprise, here we are now on the topic of the "Protocols" of Zion..... something not relevant to this thread at all, yet used as an excuse to take the heat off of Israel, Zionists & their supporters. The Israeli/Zionist political machine openly brags about how they control US policy, their financiers openly brag about controlling our economy, their moguls openly brag about how they control our media and they have started to openly brag about directing our military. But when a Zionist stooge like Pence showcases the proof behind their claims, instead of discussing this open attempt to hijack our nation, the discussion itself gets hijacked away from the actual topic. Mostly seems to happen in certain threads featuring certain themes and its usually the same posters...... hhhmmmm.......

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6546831/amp/Anti-Semitic-U-S-doctor-tweeted-purposely-Jews-wrong-medications.html

Probably a hero around here

TempestOfTempo said:

, instead of discussing this open attempt to hijack our nation,

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Very observant. Fair.point well presented....

....But with Trump steering the ship Israel don't have to hijack shit.

Colonel Valerio said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6546831/amp/Anti-Semitic-U-S-doctor-tweeted-purposely-Jews-wrong-medications.html

Probably a hero around here

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What does that have to do w/the topic?

Serveto said:

The Protocols don't interest me much. If they did, I would have participated more in the thread dedicated to them as a subject. As I see it, with them, and speaking only of their category not their political designs, one is in the presence of a channeled document, much like those "Aiwass" sent Aleister Crowley and the "Ascended Masters" gave Blavatsky. This makes them more, far more, than mere fiction, or even the standard "notorious forgery," though they may be forged in part as well, because they have a sort of numinous, seemingly "prophetic," and I think highly deceptive quality about them. Thus in sum I say read the Protocols at your own risk, but do read them if you want.

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To be perfectly honest, I have no idea what the post means. I created the Protocols thread and I been read the Protocols.

And frankly I have no idea what your post means. I have no idea what the Protocols has to do with Madame Blavatsky or Crowley.

I frankly believe you when you say the Protocols don't interest you. I think it might be the case that you've never actually studied the Protocols- or that you haven't been thorough. I speak as someone who has studied them and has been studying them for a while.

If you haven't studied the Protocols, your opinion on them carries no weight.

And one of the things about much of the anti-Protocols crowd is they want to appear as knowledgeable about the Protocols but they want to shut down any open discussion about them. They are afraid of open discussion. Their position is extremely weak and thus they are horrified of open discussion, as their position cannot withstand the test of an open and objective investigation.

Now as far as the Protocols and Madame Blavatsky and Aleister Crowley... I have no idea what those have to do with each other.

I have read some Madame Blavatsky. I also have a book by Alice Bailey, her student. I don't think I've really read anything by Aleister Crowley.

However, the Protocols (were they to be carried in a bookstore) and those books belong in completely different sections of the bookstore.

Madame Blavatsky's books and Crowley's belong with the occult books. The Protocols has nothing to do with occultism. There is no basis for saying it is "channeled"- there is no evidence for this. Its contents have nothing to do with occultism.

Does 1984 belong with Blavatsky and Crowley? Does Brave New World?

There's nothing mystical or occult about the Protocols. The anti-Protocols crowd will support anything that promotes their predetermined conclusion. They care about their agenda, they don't care about the facts. I honestly don't really have much of an agenda- I basically just want to help preserve the facts.

The Protocols is not a book of mysticism or occultism.

The Protocols is like 1984 or Brave New World. The Protocols is no more a book of mysticism or occultism than 1984 or Brave New World are books of mysticism or occultism.

"The Protocols of Zion were referred to in the late 1700s. The first copy available to public scrutiny surfaced in the early 1800s. Every aspect of this plan to subjugate the world has since become reality, validating the authenticity of conspiracy." -William Cooper

There's nothing mystical about this, it's merely logic and reason based on evidence.