Will the antichrist in the third temple be a robot?

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They say it's an initiation of some kind into the "Mysteries."

Manly P. Hall (who was not a mason at the time he wrote "Secret Teachings Of The Ages" I think, though) tried to explain that it was more pagan than Christian, and that the New Jerusalem represented a masonic ideal. Not surprising because it's cube-shaped. I always think of the Borg in Star Trek TNG when I think about this cube-shaped city...

https://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta46.htm

Albert Pike also wrote about it a little.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/md20.htm
I used to be naively of the view that truth would always be found in the opposite of what liars (in this example, Freemasons) said. When I began studying the VC information (and wider), Google couldn't make its mind up what I believed and started placing some really strange advertising in my searches!

In a battle, what you do with the information provided by someone you believe to be a liar may be critical. If the liar knows you regard them as a poor source of guidance, they can still play all kinds of havoc. I have started to think that deception is far more sophisticated than just selling you a line, and that our calculated reactions to certain kinds of information are also part of the equation.

Here, if people start to buy the idea that Freemasons wish to "use" the narrative of Revelation to achieve their objectives, then even if a whole series of events occurred right out of the end pages of the Bible, half the enlightened Truthers out there would put things down to the power of the hidden hand of Masonry and fail to see what was right in front of them!!!!

Btw @Helioform - just re-reading your comment above about the New Jerusalem, do you find it interesting that popular culture has managed deconstruct and misrepresent various elements in such a way that God's future Kingdom seems to you an undesirable state of being? As to being a cube, you are only told the base and the height... Might a pyramid be a more likely structure?
 
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I used to be naively of the view that truth would always be found in the opposite of what liars (in this example, Freemasons) said. When I began studying the VC information (and wider), Google couldn't make its mind up what I believed and started placing some really strange advertising in my searches!

In a battle, what you do with the information provided by someone you believe to be a liar may be critical. If the liar knows you regard them as a poor source of guidance, they can still play all kinds of havoc. I have started to think that deception is far more sophisticated than just selling you a line, and that our calculated reactions to certain kinds of information are also part of the equation.

Here, if people start to buy the idea that Freemasons wish to "use" the narrative of Revelation to achieve their objectives, then even if a whole series of events occurred right out of the end pages of the Bible, half the enlightened Truthers out there would put things down to the power of the hidden hand of Masonry and fail to see what was right in front of them!!!!
I don't know really. Hall wasn't that bad of a person I think, he was just into religion studying big time and became a mason later on. VC wrote an article on him recently, it's on the front page. I don't think all masons are evil either, or liars. But some of them are really manipulative while applying their knowledge of mysticism.

Maybe Revelation was inspired from other beings who have nothing to do with masons, and masons just used the material and perverted it as they often do. I'm not even sure that book is complete either, and removing books such as Enoch was a common thing to do, so we do not have a complete picture.
 

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Btw @Helioform - just re-reading your comment above about the New Jerusalem, do you find it interesting that popular culture has managed deconstruct and misrepresent various elements in such a way that God's future Kingdom seems to you an undesirable state of being? As to being a cube, you are only told the base and the height... Might a pyramid be a more likely structure?
I have considered that. They often put certain grains of truth in pop culture, and then add a misleading twist to it.

But a pyramid would look even more masonic lol.
 

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I don't know really. Hall wasn't that bad of a person I think, he was just into religion studying big time and became a mason later on. VC wrote an article on him recently, it's on the front page. I don't think all masons are evil either, or liars. But some of them are really manipulative while applying their knowledge of mysticism.

Maybe Revelation was inspired from other beings who have nothing to do with masons, and masons just used the material and perverted it as they often do. I'm not even sure that book is complete either, and removing books such as Enoch was a common thing to do, so we do not have a complete picture.
It kind of comes down to who you believe and why, doesn't it. None of us can explain why we have a gut feeling that makes us trust one person and doubt another, but it is from that place deep down that our views and direction are shaped.
 

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I have considered that. They often put certain grains of truth in pop culture, and then add a misleading twist to it.

But a pyramid would look even more masonic lol.
Again, perhaps there is more going on with that than many people have considered.

There are so many resonances within the Pyramid to what you would recognise as orthodox Christian theology. Could that be an accident. Perhaps the Masons would have people believe that the similarities were due to Christians copying certain proportions and principles contained in its hidden inner structure to incorporate into their accounts. The fact that it wasn't broken into till far later suggests to me that whoever designed it was inspired by someone who knew the "end from the beginning".

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https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/the-cornerstone-the-capstone-and-the-pyramid.4727/#post-170373
 
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They say it's an initiation of some kind into the "Mysteries."

Manly P. Hall (who was not a mason at the time he wrote "Secret Teachings Of The Ages" I think, though) tried to explain that it was more pagan than Christian, and that the New Jerusalem represented a masonic ideal. Not surprising because it's cube-shaped. I always think of the Borg in Star Trek TNG when I think about this cube-shaped city...

https://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta46.htm

Albert Pike also wrote about it a little.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/md20.htm
Well that was a lot to take in,but I was struck by this

“Jesus then tells St. John that He is the root and the offspring of David and the bright and morning star (Venus).”

Seeing as there is the recent theory about Satan/Lucifer being female and the goddess Venus.

One thing is sure that the whole book is highly symbolic, and it does seem as if there are factions of the powerful trying to steer the future in a way that aligns with it.
 
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Again, perhaps there is more going on with that than many people have considered.

There are so many resonances within the Pyramid to what you would recognise as orthodox Christian theology. Could that be an accident. Perhaps the Masons would have people believe that the similarities were due to Christians copying certain proportions and principles contained in its hidden inner structure to incorporate into their accounts. The fact that it wasn't broken into till far later suggests to me that whoever designed it was inspired by someone who knew the "end from the beginning".

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Hmm if there is a connection between Christianity and Pyramids it points to a connection between God as depicted in the Old Testament and Aten.
 

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Again, perhaps there is more going on with that than many people have considered.

There are so many resonances within the Pyramid to what you would recognise as orthodox Christian theology. Could that be an accident. Perhaps the Masons would have people believe that the similarities were due to Christians copying certain proportions and principles contained in its hidden inner structure to incorporate into their accounts. The fact that it wasn't broken into till far later suggests to me that whoever designed it was inspired by someone who knew the "end from the beginning".

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https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/the-cornerstone-the-capstone-and-the-pyramid.4727/#post-170373

Maybe, which is partly why I have tried to show the link between Egyptian mythology and Christianity. It's all inter-related at the core. The stone pyramids have been shown to have certain characteristics, geometric aspects that amplify sound resonance and stuff like that. We still don't even know for sure how they were built either.
 

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Well that was a lot to take in,but I was struck by this

“Jesus then tells St. John that He is the root and the offspring of David and the bright and morning star (Venus).”

Seeing as there is the recent theory about Satan/Lucifer being female and the goddess Venus.

One thing is sure that the whole book is highly symbolic, and it does seem as if there are factions of the powerful trying to steer the future in a way that aligns with it.
I made a thread about the "morning stars" a while ago. Seems like Jesus and "Lucifer" were both morning stars who "sang together" at the beginning. And again, are they really planets, stars, or real beings? I still wonder why they associate these characters with celestial bodies.
 

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Isaiah 19

19 In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord.

20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

A real eye-opener!!

 

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Isaiah 19

19 In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord.

20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

A real eye-opener!!

I know, the encoding of PI and PHI in the pyramid's measurements blew my mind at first.
 

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I made a thread about the "morning stars" a while ago. Seems like Jesus and "Lucifer" were both morning stars who "sang together" at the beginning. And again, are they really planets, stars, or real beings? I still wonder why they associate these characters with celestial bodies.
I was just watching a bit of the video that Red Sky posted, and where do you think Orions belt would fit along the so called "morning stars"

The pyramids in egypt may provide more clues than we think.
I'm still looking into it. But given the great pyramid sits along near perfect center of the earth. Something is there
 

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Interesting replies on here. Seems it could very well be so that the AC will be something from the AI world that is connected to HAARP. Would also explain his extreme beauty. No man could measure bc he is no man. Mankind and its worship of false Gods.. no wonder God got tired of it. We worship anything but our creator.
 

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Yes, I absolutely think that is exactly what Daniel 2 is referring to.

Daniel 2:31-49 NIV

31“Your Majesty looked, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. 32The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, 33its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. 34While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

36“This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37Your Majesty, you are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38in your hands he has placed all mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds in the sky. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold.

39“After you, another kingdom will arise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. 40Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

44“In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.

“The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy.”

46Then King Nebuchadnezzar fell prostrate before Daniel and paid him honor and ordered that an offering and incense be presented to him. 47The king said to Daniel, “Surely your God is the God of gods and the Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, for you were able to reveal this mystery.”

48Then the king placed Daniel in a high position and lavished many gifts on him. He made him ruler over the entire province of Babylon and placed him in charge of all its wise men. 49Moreover, at Daniel’s request the king appointed Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego administrators over the province of Babylon, while Daniel himself remained at the royal court.
 
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@Zoe Daniel 2 was self explanatory as per Daniel's interpretation of the 'image' he saw. It was not literal, it represented the 4 beasts/empires that at the height of their power controlled the Temple Mount. Their relevance was to the Temple itself.

The only exception was that the 'feet of iron and clay' was seperate and an end times appearance (which obv means there's going to be a third temple), yet it belonged to the 'legs of iron' (Rome).
So now we have to make a connection to a latter days 'Rome' and the third temple.

If you read Revelation 6, the 'four horsemen' prophecies. The first horse, white, symbolised conquest. Since it is a christian-centric prophecy..we can see it refers to the european(roman) colonial era. If you look at all the colonial nations, Britain, Germany, Spain, Portugal, France, Holland, Italy, Belgium. They were all part of the roman empire. In fact Germany became the 'holy roman empire'. The 'khaiser' was the 'ceasar'.
The second horse, red, symbolised death. We saw the consequence of colonialism, 2 world wars, facism/the holocoast. Never before in history was there slaughter on this earth like it. Although, you christians sure love to call islam the death cult.
The third horse, black, symbolised trade. We have witnessed the rise of capitalism...and in that same period (post ww2), the rise of Israel. As it also says "and do not damage the oil and the wine!” oil and wine represent the jewish nation. We obviously see western christian colonial nations protecting/funding Israel and have a constant hard on to build the third temple.
The fourth horse, pale, represents 'death and hades'. To kill by the sword, famine, plague and wild animals. Hades represents spiritual destruction. I think we're transitioning into this period.

The 5th seal which follows, was effectively telling us about the appearance of the Lamb/Jesus.

So going back to the image in Daniel 2, the 'feet of iron and clay'. Colonial nations and their colonial subjects led to mass immigration. Then the creation of the EU and with it, freedom of movement within that. Yet the relevance of the 'feet of iron and clay' just like the other parts of the Image, the 4 beasts are only relevant in the context of the jewish temple.
It's all about globalisation and merging people under one global system to be ruled by the anti-christ, in jerusalem.
So no, it isnt a 'robot' it is a global system and everything that also entails eg AI, virtual realities so people are connected all over the world.
 
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@Zoe Daniel 2 was self explanatory as per Daniel's interpretation of the 'image' he saw. It was not literal, it represented the 4 beasts/empires that at the height of their power controlled the Temple Mount. Their relevance was to the Temple itself.

The only exception was that the 'feet of iron and clay' was seperate and an end times appearance (which obv means there's going to be a third temple), yet it belonged to the 'legs of iron' (Rome).
So now we have to make a connection to a latter days 'Rome' and the third temple.

If you read Revelation 6, the 'four horsemen' prophecies. The first horse, white, symbolised conquest. Since it is a christian-centric prophecy..we can see it refers to the european(roman) colonial era. If you look at all the colonial nations, Britain, Germany, Spain, Portugal, France, Holland, Italy, Belgium. They were all part of the roman empire. In fact Germany became the 'holy roman empire'. The 'khaiser' was the 'ceasar'.
The second horse, red, symbolised death. We saw the consequence of colonialism, 2 world wars, facism/the holocoast. Never before in history was there slaughter on this earth like it. Although, you christians sure love to call islam the death cult.
The third horse, black, symbolised trade. We have witnessed the rise of capitalism...and in that same period (post ww2), the rise of Israel. As it also says "and do not damage the oil and the wine!” oil and wine represent the jewish nation. We obviously see western christian colonial nations protecting/funding Israel and have a constant hard on to build the third temple.
The fourth horse, pale, represents 'death and hades'. To kill by the sword, famine, plague and wild animals. Hades represents spiritual destruction. I think we're transitioning into this period.

The 5th seal which follows, was effectively telling us about the appearance of the Lamb/Jesus.

So going back to the image in Daniel 2, the 'feet of iron and clay'. Colonial nations and their colonial subjects led to mass immigration. Then the creation of the EU and with it, freedom of movement within that. Yet the relevance of the 'feet of iron and clay' just like the other parts of the Image, the 4 beasts are only relevant in the context of the jewish temple.
It's all about globalisation and merging people under one global system to be ruled by the anti-christ, in jerusalem.
So no, it isnt a 'robot' it is a global system and everything that also entails eg AI, virtual realities so people are connected all over the world.
It’s certainly going to be interesting in seeing how everything plays out. I will try to respond with more suffcient evidence tomorrow, if God wills. All there is left to do is wait and watch and roll with whatever cards each of us will be dealt at the proper appointed times!

I’m not interested in attacking Islam because it’s being used as the “scapegoat”/“the black sheep” instead of Zionism/Judaism/Kabalahism/Luciferian

To me they are all one in the same - the beast system. I will start another thread exposing the beast if God allows/wills, if not....well there is always another time (hopefully) lol :-x

Thanks for your perspective, AS, we all have differents ones for a reason and sharing them is something we should be doing before it’s taken away from all of us.
 

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Starting with a picture and then the picture comes to life... Could he be a robot? "He will be like none other before him and make grea signs in the skies" A robot is all of thee things. A goyem, from a jewish perspective. Could start with a bot on soial media who answers questions, then gets famous for giving god replies and then has a robot built for them, thus "comes to life"
This reminded me of this interlude of Lady gaga's The Fame album, she talks about a machine that swallowed her brain. I also heard a prophetic word around the same time where someone talked about the end times, she said she saw a husband and wife, the husband realized what was happening and disagreed with it, he confronted the beast and they wiped him with this machine, and they did something to him that he became like a drone, lifeless...

Heh. The Terminator (Arnold) is one of the 2 beasts, which ends up in the molten metal vat in T2. Skynet is the other...I have Skynet as my avatar as kind of a joke but also because the movie is very close to what is about to transpire. It was the first movie to even mention what powers this AI, neural net CPUs. James Cameron had many dream visions of what was put in there also.
Interesting! My husband had a very vivid dream where he and our son (yet to be born) was reprogramming a robot. God told him to watch the terminator movies as the end times will be something like that, except it will be the beast using the robotic technology to fight against those who do not want to take the mark and fall into the system.
 

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Interesting! My husband had a very vivid dream where he and our son (yet to be born) was reprogramming a robot. God told him to watch the terminator movies as the end times will be something like that, except it will be the beast using the robotic technology to fight against those who do not want to take the mark and fall into the system.
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bible-the-book-of-books.2088/page-2#post-76653


The image of the beast is AI and the mark of the beast is microchip.

All will be connected to the blockchain controlled by AI.


This is the new order and so the old order has to go up in smoke...
 

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This reminded me of this interlude of Lady gaga's The Fame album, she talks about a machine that swallowed her brain. I also heard a prophetic word around the same time where someone talked about the end times, she said she saw a husband and wife, the husband realized what was happening and disagreed with it, he confronted the beast and they wiped him with this machine, and they did something to him that he became like a drone, lifeless...


Interesting! My husband had a very vivid dream where he and our son (yet to be born) was reprogramming a robot. God told him to watch the terminator movies as the end times will be something like that, except it will be the beast using the robotic technology to fight against those who do not want to take the mark and fall into the system.
Who! Interesting!

What do you think about Jared Kushner and the peace treaty being signed by 7 countries in the middle east soon..?

Ps, You're pregnant? :eek:
 

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Who! Interesting!

What do you think about Jared Kushner and the peace treaty being signed by 7 countries in the middle east soon..?
What comes to mind is this:
1 Thessalonians 5:3 Amplified Bible (AMP)
3 While they are saying, “Peace and safety [all is well and secure!]” then [in a moment unforeseen] destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains on a woman with child, and they will absolutely not escape [for there will be no way to escape the judgment of the Lord].

But I could be wrong as well!

Ps, You're pregnant? :eek:
Lol!! Not yet but soon I hope!!!!!! :):):)
 
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