Feminism As A Depopulation Tool

Tanya said:

I agree with you here, but not all women are to blame, we are not all like "them" and they do not speak for all of us. I dislike them just as much. I am and always will be a traditionalist. Also, working under a female boss is hell on earth, just asveing a student of a female teacher. They treat you like children in class.

My hubby likes to say he is master of all lol. I just roll my eyes haha.

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Are you Christian?
If you are a Christian, may ask this question, what is the definition of "helpmeet" in Genesis? Is the woman stronger than man so she "helps" the man?

Mr. Blah said:

Are you Christian?
If you are a Christian, may ask this question, what is the definition of "helpmeet" in Genesis? Is the woman stronger than man so she "helps" the man?

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No, I am no longer a Christian, sorry.

Talking from my former Christian perspective, woman was made to help her male partner, he was never meant to be her slave or doormat. I still hold to that view. I see how hard men have it and how much they give and how some women take advantage of them and do not appreciate what men have done for women.

Mr. Blah said:

What points do you agree & disagree exactly with MGTOW philosophy?

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I don't agree with MGTOW or feminism. Male and female complement each other and create a balance as long as each counterpart knows how to fulfill their traditional roles. I've learned this in my relationship, without it there is too much conflict, misunderstandings and a struggle for power. However, everything is too far gone to back to where it should have remained. I'll be honest, my hubby is a dime in a dozen. Not too many women will find men like him left today. He is a treasure.

Tanya said:

As a woman, I stay clear of most women because they are just nasty, rude and catty. Women are the worst towards each other.

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Tanya said:

Of course not all women hate their same sex, but a lot do.

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I hear that all the time but I've never experienced it and I certainly don't think that way.

mecca said:

I hear that all the time but I've never experienced it and I certainly don't think that way.

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I have, more than I would have liked to experience, that is why I say "not all women."

You are, far and few between, my friend.

Haven't you seen how competitive men get with each other? especially when there's a woman nearby that they want to impress? Talk about "catty"!

Human beings are human beings. We're all flawed. Women certainly don't have the monopoly on bad behaviour.

Bryn said:

Haven't you seen how competitive men get with each other? especially when there's a woman nearby that they want to impress? Talk about "catty"!

Human beings are human beings. We're all flawed. Women certainly don't have the monopoly on bad behaviour.

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I believe we are animals in biology we are classified as animals. Its in an animal's primitive natural instinct for males to compete with each other for mates. Women are just catty and bitchy towards each other because of jealousy, insecurities and their pmsing. And its usually over the most immature and petty things. They are also greedy, selfish and self-centered, highly demanding and feel like they are entitled to everything. They gossip, cause trouble, cause drama and stir up conflict....the list goes on and on.

I totally agree - you can explain most human behaviour pretty easily if you look at it as animal behaviour. So men get very territorial as well as fighting over females, while women tend to compete with each other for a mate, because a mate equals security.

However,

They are also greedy, selfish and self-centered, highly demanding and feel like they are entitled to everything.

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All of this applies to men too! Some of the "bitchiest" people I've met in my life have been other men.

I'm not generalizing ALL women to be like this, but the thread is about feminism, so it should be assumed that the women I am referring to is the feminazi's because every feminazi I have ever met was rude, obnoxious, agressive, screams and yell in your face when you are trying to debate with them. I have never met a feminist who wasn't a complete in your face acting like a total queen bitch.

I've never met a feminazi in person so I'll take your word for it, lol

Faker He-Man said:

Wow dude, you sure got me there. Good one! All adults, male or female, are responsible for their own actions. How the fuck are women responsible whatsoever for how men choose to act? Now this is where some sissy would try to give me some kind of cop-out explanation. Don't be a sissy.

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The way men act today is the direct result of the way women have been acting due to the feminist movement. I thought that would be clear by now. If men are all of a sudden acting like douchebags and or sleeping with pillows as their fantasy sex partners that partly has to due with women and their toxic behaviour post-feminism. It's simply a case of cause and effect.

Now let me hear your cop-out explanation, white knight.

Kung Fu said:

Exactly. Now tell me what does that split have anything to do with the religion of Islam?

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...everything? It's contention over whether your holy Prophet passed on his 'power', often regarded as an idolatry debate... a fundamentally religious issue.

Kung Fu said:

LOL! I had a feeling you would post this verse but clearly by you posting this verse shows you really know nothing on the matter. What does the verse before this and after this say? What is the whole chapter based on? And read what I said carefully. I stated show me a verse in the Quran which states that you can kill a person or people for NO REASON.




Men are in charge of women. Just take a look at our political structures, family structures, authority positions, and etc. They're mostly men. Men, at the time of this reveleation, were the primary bread winners so of course, they would be in charge. Also, the Arabic translation you got is wrong. The word doesn't mean "strike" but to "tap".



Don't bring me hadiths without context. Here's a clue that event had actually nothing to do with Muslims. Within the Quran there's already a verse on adultery and let me tell you the punishment has nothing to do with stoning.

Please for the love of God get your verses, chapters, and context straight before you come at me with your cherry picked verses which you Googled online and just picked the first one of your search.

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You're totally missing my point man. Indeed the quote from 'swords' is taken out of context, indeed the veracity of the tales of Mohammad stoning women and the story of Umar lamenting the forgotten 'stoning' verse are highly questionable, but people DO take these things out of context, people DO use these verses and stories and the opinions of religious 'scholars' to justify killing and stoning.

That you don't believe in that, that you don't practice that, that you consider that a perversion of your religion is to my mind really great. I'm quite glad. But that's you doing you, and you don't speak for the entire Islamic world en masse. There are different kinds of Islam, different interpretations (like extremist Wahabi), and although I know you'll adamantly insist their Islam isn't the real Islam and your Islam is, I'm afraid there's no getting around the fact that, given religion is so subjective and open to interpretation:

I've no special hatred or distaste for Islam; its suggested treatment of women as owned things who men must discipline is unpleasant to me, but the same crap is in the Bible. I'm quite content to let people believe what they want to believe and live the way they want to live so long as they're not hurting anyone else. But it's intellectually dishonest to pretend that your beliefs about Islam are the only beliefs that count as Islam, given millions of Muslims would fiercely disagree with you.

Tanya said:

This thread isn't about the quran or Islam. Take it to the religion thread guys. @Mr.Grieves take your grievances against Islam to religion lol.

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This thread is about Feminism and its perceived evils, which are being argued from an Islamic perspective by Islamic people. I have no particular grievance with Islam itself, and I don't believe you're a moderator Tanya, so I'll continue the discussion as it evolves, thanks.

Mr. Grieves to avoid making this a long and winded discussion can I say that what you're getting at is that though the Quran states unequivocally that there is no compulsion in religion and that you should not hurt or kill innocent people that people can still interpret it in a way that suits them to do the exact opposite? For example, killing an apostate?

Kung Fu said:

The way men act today is the direct result of the way women have been acting due to the feminist movement. I thought that would be clear by now. If men are all of a sudden acting like douchebags and or sleeping with pillows as their fantasy sex partners that partly has to due with women and their toxic behaviour post-feminism. It's simply a case of cause and effect.

Now let me hear your cop-out explanation, white knight.

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That's far too broad a statement and doesn't really highlight all the variables that contributed to the creation and rise of feminism let alone encompass all the social constructs that attributed to the decline in manliness we see today.

Plus the issues of the herbivores of Japan enjoying the company of their body pillows more than that of their women is more due to social and economic hurdles of the Japanese populace that make it hard to be anything but hikikomori otaku.

Kung Fu said:

Mr. Grieves to avoid making this a long and winded discussion can I say that what you're getting at is that though the Quran states unequivocally that there is no compulsion in religion and that you should not hurt or kill innocent people that people can still interpret it in a way that suits them to do the exact opposite? For example, killing an apostate?

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What I'm getting at is that it's up to the reader to decide what all these issues mean to them. No compulsion to convert doesn't automatically mean 'leave the unconverted alone in peace to live their own lives' to the reader, it could mean 'you don't need to try to convert non-believers, they're not worth the time'. A commandment not to kill the innocent is open to broad interpretation based on whom you believe qualifies as innocent. Many Imams can and do preach that there are no innocent apostates; that being an infidel disqualifies you from innocence.

I'm just saying, all words are open to interpretation, and your 'tap' and Laleh Bakhtiar's 'go away from' is another man's 'beat', even another man's 'beat to death' potentially. That's how Islam, however twisted and perverted a take on Islam it may well be, can and has been used to justify brutality against women.

Damien50 said:

That's far too broad a statement and doesn't really highlight all the variables that contributed to the creation and rise of feminism let alone encompass all the social constructs that attributed to the decline in manliness we see today.

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Right, because his statement of calling men of today douchebags and sleeping with pillows as their sex-partners wasn't generalizing and broad at all.

Also, if you read what I said I state "partly". Of course, I don't believe that the sole reason the way men act today is a result of feminism alone but it definitely is one of the bigger factors involved.

Damien50 said:

Plus the issues of the herbivores of Japan enjoying the company of their body pillows more than that of their women is more due to social and economic hurdles of the Japanese populace that make it hard to be anything but hikikomori otaku.

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Real Japanese men have gone the way of the dinosaur. They used to be such a proud people who would stand up for what they believed in but now are just a shell of their former self. So the male-female relations in Japan has nothing to do with feminism?

Mr.Grieves said:

What I'm getting at is that it's up to the reader to decide what all these issues mean to them. No compulsion to convert doesn't automatically mean 'leave the unconverted alone in peace to live their own lives' to the reader, it could mean 'you don't need to try to convert non-believers, they're not worth the time'. A commandment not to kill the innocent is open to broad interpretation based on whom you believe qualifies as innocent. Many Imams can and do preach that there are no innocent apostates; that being an infidel disqualifies you from innocence.

I'm just saying, all words are open to interpretation, and your 'tap' and Laleh Bakhtiar's 'go away from' is another man's 'beat', even another man's 'beat to death' potentially. That's how Islam, however twisted and perverted a take on Islam it may well be, can and has been used to justify brutality against women.

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If everything is up to the reader to interpret things the way they see fit then what's the point of books, laws, constitutions, and every other piece of written work?

Kung Fu said:

Right, because his statement of calling men of today douchebags and sleeping with pillows as their sex-partners wasn't generalizing and broad at all.

Also, if you read what I said I state "partly". Of course, I don't believe that the sole reason the way men act today is a result of feminism alone but it definitely is one of the bigger factors involved.



Real Japanese men have gone the way of the dinosaur. They used to be such a proud people who would stand up for what they believed in but now are just a shell of their former self. So the male-female relations in Japan has nothing to do with feminism?

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You didn't say partly but it's inconsequential.

I wouldn't say Japan's issues are any direct result of feminism but more of the way their economy has worked leaving the younger generations disenfranchised. There is a disparity between the young and the old that goes beyond male and female issues.

I'd be a shell of myself as well if I was occupied by foreign forces subsequently after being nuked.

Damien50 said:

I'd be a shell of myself as well if I was occupied by foreign forces subsequently after being nuked.

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I did say "partly".

I agree. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure that Japan also pays the costs for the US army bases occupying Japan?

Now that's fucked. What's the point of having peace and prosperity in a country when you're simply a little bitch that has to bow down to a foreign power and have to pay their costs for occupying you?