הַנְּפִלִ֞ים - The Nephilim

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I wonder if that's a generational thing. Do you mind me asking your parents ages? Just roughly... thanks :)
They're both 40 (+something) while I'm 18. They're not that old, but still they're the traditional type
 

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Even in the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus warns about false prophets in sheep's clothing-- people need to hear that stuff.. especially these days. I mean, Christian yoga? That's a thing now... and people are buying it. :confused:
wow Christian yoga exists?! What else? Christian astral projection? I'm shook
 

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wow Christian yoga exists?! What else? Christian astral projection? I'm shook
Dont laugh! :p

Its really out there-- HolyYoga

Astral projection.. the Emergent church has some strange ideas--

"... Celebration of Discipline, “In your imagination allow your spiritual body, shining with light, to rise out of your physical body.…Reassure your body that you will return….Go deeper and deeper into outer space until there is nothing except the warm presence of the eternal Creator. Rest in his presence. Listen quietly [to] any instruction given” (p. 27).

This is what is known as astral projection, it is an occult technique and used by shamans to contact their spirit guides (i.e. Carlos Castaneda). It is also practiced by those in the new age movement.

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Dont laugh! :p

Its really out there-- HolyYoga

Astral projection.. the Emergent church has some strange ideas--

"... Celebration of Discipline, “In your imagination allow your spiritual body, shining with light, to rise out of your physical body.…Reassure your body that you will return….Go deeper and deeper into outer space until there is nothing except the warm presence of the eternal Creator. Rest in his presence. Listen quietly [to] any instruction given” (p. 27).

This is what is known as astral projection, it is an occult technique and used by shamans to contact their spirit guides (i.e. Carlos Castaneda). It is also practiced by those in the new age movement.

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Wow and they say you can connect with the Creator? That's so messed up. I know a lot of dangerous experiences that happened to people that astral projected. You basically open a door for demons to talk to you (or in some cases, r*pe you)
Christians need to be so careful nowadays!
 

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What if you astral project without actually meaning to? Should I be worried?
 

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It already has.
This is an area I know nothing about but I do believe in the supernatural and also that everything that is true and good can and has been corrupted.

I don't think God often takes someone out of their body against their will, but the phrase "caught up in the Spirit" comes to mind as well. Your closeness to God at the time of these things happening and the nature of your experience while "away" might tell you a lot.

I think carrying out steps to astrally project can only lead to demonic experiences but on the question of what a Christian might say on the issue, Paul's words come to me...

2 Corinthians 12

2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth, such an one caught up to the third heaven.

3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth,

4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
 

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I don't think God often takes someone out of their body against their will, but the phrase "caught up in the Spirit" comes to mind as well. Your closeness to God at the time of these things happening and the nature of your experience while "away" might tell you a lot.
Even angels are able to transport people supernaturally. Imagine if an angel took you for a ride... who would not worship him as a god ? Who would have the fortitude to reject him ? I think not many... and i suspect the elite has succumbed to the authority of the god of this world.




5 Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”

8 And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”

9 Then he brought Him to Jerusalem, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here. 10 For it is written:

‘He shall give His angels charge over you,
To keep you,’

11 and,

‘In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

12 And Jesus answered and said to him, “It has been said, ‘You shall not tempt the Lord your God.’ ”
 

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What if you astral project without actually meaning to? Should I be worried?
That happened to a friend of mine when she was on pain medication after (I think) a dental procedure or something like that. I think it happened when she was awake or maybe half in, half out. She called it an out of body experience. Is it like that or more like sleep paralysis?
 

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I don't think God often takes someone out of their body against their will, but the phrase "caught up in the Spirit" comes to mind as well. Your closeness to God at the time of these things happening and the nature of your experience while "away" might tell you a lot.
That's a relief to know because the first time that I felt myself being lifted up from my bed, I was lowered back down (ever so gently though) after feeling the tiniest bit of apprehension over what was happening.
I didn't even say no, because the whole thing felt (pardon the pun) uplifting and there was a male voice outside my building reciting/singing praises to God in a very interesting sounding language (which was very comforting). But still, my paranoid mind had to think "what if this isn't from God though?" and after I had thought that and felt a tinge of fear as a consequence, I knew that I was going to be put back down because of that, and I was.
I was kicking myself over being so distrusting after that.
Demons can't praise God, right? Or can they?
Most of the travels happened after I became a strong believer in God and strived to follow Christ's example BUT a few years ago I had tried meditation a couple of times (worst decision of my life), never pursued astral projection though, so I was a bit in a dilemma over this.


I think carrying out steps to astrally project can only lead to demonic experiences
I think that might be the answer to this because I've been hearing many people that are now Christians telling stories about how learning how to lucid dream has opened up doors to dark things that they have trouble shutting up.
For me, almost all of my dreams have always been lucid (until several years ago when I stopped being their only architect) but there hasn't been any negative consequence in my case because I don't think that lucid dreaming in itself is bad, it's the reason why that happens, because they choose to pursue such a foolish endeavor for selfish reasons.
 

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That happened to a friend of mine when she was on pain medication after (I think) a dental procedure or something like that. I think it happened when she was awake or maybe half in, half out. She called it an out of body experience. Is it like that or more like sleep paralysis?
Being on the astral plane is obviously an out of body experience but I was often aware of my physical body that was still lying in bed at the same time.
So your soul is out but you can still feel your 3D body too. And on top of that, when you glimpse into someone's life you can find yourself feeling their emotions, knowing their thoughts, on top of your own feelings and emotions to what they're experiencing, and I sometimes couldn't help also react to their reactions XD. It's a mind bend of feeling
 

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Hello Sim Hae,

I too have had this experience twice as a child unintentionally, so yes it can happen, however if you didn’t do it, then it was God who allowed you to have this experience. Both times I thought I was dreaming that I was running and jumping over houses, but the problem was that it felt so real, like it was happening, not only that, but I experienced intense thrill from being able to jump over a house, kinda like if you were an astronaut jumping on the moon. It was very much like that and you feel light as a feather. I had both experiences before I was 12 or 13. After that, I had falling dreams where when you hit the bottom, you jump or jerk from your sleep. Thank God I no longer have these experiences. I’ll admit though that it was such super fun being able to jump over those houses lol.... feels awesome being so free!
I think it was a taste of what’s to come afterthe resurrection!
I've never experienced any desire to jump or fly (like most people would love to) or do extraordinary things. I guess I'm boring.
 

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... And on top of that, when you glimpse into someone's life you can find yourself feeling their emotions, knowing their thoughts, on top of your own feelings and emotions to what they're experiencing, and I sometimes couldn't help also react to their reactions XD. It's a mind bend of feeling
Hard to resist that? :)

Do you still do it?
 

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^ I wasn't really trying to glimpse, the whole thing was very confusing to be honest for the first two times. To experience something from more than one perspective at once is not something I enjoyed all that much....and I kind of felt like a creep afterwards, but I think I just needed to see what I saw.
I'm not sure I do it but it hasn't happened in a while.




@Red Sky at Morning: sorry for making 3 posts in a row above, there was no need for 3 separate posts but I just can't straight think right now
 

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^ I wasn't really trying to glimpse, the whole thing was very confusing to be honest for the first two times. To experience something from more than one perspective at once is not something I enjoyed all that much....and I kind of felt like a creep afterwards, but I think I just needed to see what I saw.
I'm not sure I do it but it hasn't happened in a while.

@Red Sky at Morning: sorry for making 3 posts in a row above, there was no need for 3 separate posts but I just can't straight think right now
Don't worry at all. It must be strange and confusing. As brothers and sisters in the Lord, we should be here to support one another and help make sense of things.
 

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It already has.
I’ve had a hundred different unusual experiences that people don’t talk about in church or that people think you should not talk about because of the way they have combined a limited number of verses to form a picture that means something for them, but doesn’t actually paint the whole picture for everyone.

I have always found it pretty easy to submit all these experiences to god because the Bible has always given me an application for them even when I knew the people I went to church with wouldn’t understand. The Bible is not limiting the way the church sometimes will make it seem.

I would just recommend reading through the whole bible yourself cover to cover instead of trying to find a devotional or a series of sermons because they will break the Bible up into a bunch of verses which will make it difficult to find the answers to the more difficult questions that aren’t always discussed in church. Good luck.
 
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Yoga means "path"
For example bakhti yoga is the path of love.
There's no theology attached....one could say Christianity itself is bakhti yoga and Hindus would not disagree with you.

Raja yoga / meditation is a secular practice unless you choose to bring religion into it ie if you choose to meditate on a religious ideal.
 

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Yoga means "path"
For example bakhti yoga is the path of love.
There's no theology attached....one could say Christianity itself is bakhti yoga and Hindus would not disagree with you.

Raja yoga / meditation is a secular practice unless you choose to bring religion into it ie if you choose to meditate on a religious ideal.
Does Yoga not seek to awake the Kundalini (serpent) force and move it through the various chakras of the body?

Kundalini Yoga Chakra.jpg
 
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