BTS discussion thread

1shae123 · May 3, 2018

suiyuo said:
Are bts trying to push the "narcissism" agenda?? and to have the same satan's insolent pride, selfish and narcissistic traits??

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This lead me to take a closer look at some other devilish features and surprisingly (or not) they could easily be terms used to describe a narcissist.

Deceiver
Narcissists lie. A lot. Like nearly all the time. In fact they do it so much that they struggle to recognise the truth when it hits them in the face. It's almost as if the truth is their mortal enemy. Hmmmm ......

They Tempt Us Into Evil
Being with a narcissist is a lot like an addiction. We know it is bad for us but we can't give it up. Usually because we have developed trauma bonds through the torture inflicted on us. The desire is too great at times.

Thieves
A narcissist robs you of everything. Love, joy, hope, happiness, health, wealth, children. You name it, a narc will take it.

Murderer
Aside from the obvious that narcissists do physically kill people, they also murder our souls. Many a victim will commit suicide to escape the Hell the narc has inflicted on them. Those who stay, die a slow and painful death due to health problems. Murderer indeed.

Distorts the truth
Gaslighting and projection were invented by narcissists to distort the truth. The devil himself would be proud I am sure.

So you can see what I am getting it. Whether you believe that the narcissist is an actual minion of Satan or even an incarnation of the devil himself or not, you cannot ignore the similarities. (btw narcissism can attract evil presence like demons/djinns)

I read an article a long time ago when you start to thinking that those idols are on your side or whatever and then you start following those idols and giving them props and everything and you're actually charging up the demon inside of them and then eventually you get so into that person thinking that they're a good person that you get sucked in and now you're getting subliminally programmed by those 'false' idols, this is why a lot of times if you think about music like kpop or something a lot of times their first album or their second album or something like that will be really good but then as time goes on you see how their albums are becoming more and more of a program this is how they're trying to pull you in and reel you in little by little and eventually every time you listen to this artist you're in a beta brainwave and now you're just getting totally programmed you're not even listening to the words of the song, the beat has you hypnotized and then the words are just getting wrote down into your subconscious mind, they're running a script on you so you have to realize that this is what's going on, none of these idols are conscious, none of these celebrities are spiritual not one of them.
you guys don't even realize that those idols have come gods to you that you worship, when you go to their concerts and you're clapping in all this and then they're on stage doing this they're pulling in all of that energy these celebrities are your gods and you don't even realize so you really need to get in tune with what's real here and realize that there's a lot of trickery going around a lot of people playing on, your emotions playing on, your subconscious mind playing on, a lot of stuff and it's just sad bc people look up to these idols and they don't realize that they're really looking up to a demon.
I don't want to get too far into this just be careful who you're looking up to and you know realize that you guys are giving the energy to these demons empowering them up too so you're part of the problem too when you're doing it.

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song minho (winner)'s drawing looks like demons/djinns..

No, please go more into it. This is really what people need to hear.

Wandering mind · May 3, 2018

suiyuo said:
Are bts trying to push the "narcissism" agenda?? and to have the same satan's insolent pride, selfish and narcissistic traits??

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This lead me to take a closer look at some other devilish features and surprisingly (or not) they could easily be terms used to describe a narcissist.

Deceiver
Narcissists lie. A lot. Like nearly all the time. In fact they do it so much that they struggle to recognise the truth when it hits them in the face. It's almost as if the truth is their mortal enemy. Hmmmm ......

They Tempt Us Into Evil
Being with a narcissist is a lot like an addiction. We know it is bad for us but we can't give it up. Usually because we have developed trauma bonds through the torture inflicted on us. The desire is too great at times.

Thieves
A narcissist robs you of everything. Love, joy, hope, happiness, health, wealth, children. You name it, a narc will take it.

Murderer
Aside from the obvious that narcissists do physically kill people, they also murder our souls. Many a victim will commit suicide to escape the Hell the narc has inflicted on them. Those who stay, die a slow and painful death due to health problems. Murderer indeed.

Distorts the truth
Gaslighting and projection were invented by narcissists to distort the truth. The devil himself would be proud I am sure.

So you can see what I am getting it. Whether you believe that the narcissist is an actual minion of Satan or even an incarnation of the devil himself or not, you cannot ignore the similarities. (btw narcissism can attract evil presence like demons/djinns)

I read an article a long time ago when you start to thinking that those idols are on your side or whatever and then you start following those idols and giving them props and everything and you're actually charging up the demon inside of them and then eventually you get so into that person thinking that they're a good person that you get sucked in and now you're getting subliminally programmed by those 'false' idols, this is why a lot of times if you think about music like kpop or something a lot of times their first album or their second album or something like that will be really good but then as time goes on you see how their albums are becoming more and more of a program this is how they're trying to pull you in and reel you in little by little and eventually every time you listen to this artist you're in a beta brainwave and now you're just getting totally programmed you're not even listening to the words of the song, the beat has you hypnotized and then the words are just getting wrote down into your subconscious mind, they're running a script on you so you have to realize that this is what's going on, none of these idols are conscious, none of these celebrities are spiritual not one of them.
you guys don't even realize that those idols have come gods to you that you worship, when you go to their concerts and you're clapping in all this and then they're on stage doing this they're pulling in all of that energy these celebrities are your gods and you don't even realize so you really need to get in tune with what's real here and realize that there's a lot of trickery going around a lot of people playing on, your emotions playing on, your subconscious mind playing on, a lot of stuff and it's just sad bc people look up to these idols and they don't realize that they're really looking up to a demon.
I don't want to get too far into this just be careful who you're looking up to and you know realize that you guys are giving the energy to these demons empowering them up too so you're part of the problem too when you're doing it.

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song minho (winner)'s drawing looks like demons/djinns..

Thank you for this, it's really interesting

Wandering mind · May 3, 2018

Mintea said:
Oh it's really interesting.
Especially if we think BTS are 7 like the 7 deadly sins (not sure who is who tho...even thou Suga as sloth, Jin as glutton are quite in your face)

I just remembered when fans were making theories before there was anything released about LY:HER and a lot were sayinh/hoping their next concept will be about the 7 deadly sins.

Wandering mind · May 3, 2018

Openyoureyes said:
guys , so I was watching a video about Bruno Mars in "A call for uprising" channel and he was talking about blood sacrifices and celebrities who have deaths around them just around the time they rose to fame , and he said it's not a coincidence bcuz the ppl they lost were the blood sacrifices and it's what the elite is about , he showed a list of very famous figures and the ppl they sacrificed to get fame and wealth , some even sacrificed their sons (oh my ) and even mothers while some sacrificed their friends , cousins or other relatives

That's so sad, nothing lasts forever and so is fame, to think that there are people who actually sacrifice their blood and flesh is so sad, no wonder celebrities won't think of the consequences of their actions on their fans because they didn't care about their own blood.

Wandering mind · May 3, 2018

blissfate said:
Serendipity has hidden messages under it.. thats why you might think that

Yes that's what I thought.

Wandering mind · May 3, 2018

Openyoureyes said:
Exactly , they contradict themselves all the time , tthe whole point of love yourself is acceptance but they edit their pics like they are insecure and just follow what the society lectures about looks and beauty standards, V looks way pale in twt pics and even fansites pics when he is tan and I find his honey skin so beautiful, no need to change that

Also when Jimin was on a diet because fans keep judging his weight, and he said that he wanted to be more( handsome?) I think when he was a guest on take care of my refrigerator, this literally contradicts their LY album and every speech and interview they have done about loving themselves.. a lot of contradictions.

Wandering mind · May 3, 2018

catalenaah said:
The sell out issue is real just listen/read Eminem's My darling song here I attach the lyrics:

Ya look
If I were to rap about the crap that's out
That's the route you probably want me to take
Cause your just dyeing to know what I think
And my take on some other rappers
If I was to say somethin' bout' Paul Wall
You'd probably crap in your pants cause I'm white and he's white
So he's like my competition I mean right
Nope, Paul Wall is dope and so's Bubba
But, but, But....
But I don't compete wit nobody
I just go hard do the rope a dope ali shuffle
And dance around my opponents do donuts
Sometimes I play possum like I'm asleep it's awesome!
I'm like a sleeping giant and when I awake I'm like Dre
I just jump from outta no where and bite prey
And sink my teeth in and fill em' full a poison
And make a noise like a snake before I kill em'
And let em' know I just don't feel em'
And smack em' with the backward E the' Eminem emblem
I was taught if your gonna murder somebody you should face em'
Tell em' why look em' dead in the eye then waste em'
And the dark shall emerge from the firey depths of hell
And swallow the shallow the hallow who dwell
In the shadows of all who are willing to sell there souls
For this rap game and it goes
123 check, check 123, check 123 = 666
That aint the hook now follow me
There's nothing else for me to say
My public adores me!
Everybody bores me they just so corny
So at night before I sleep I look in the mirror
The mirror glows lips and it whispers come nearer
My darling, I don't ever want you to leave me my darling
You and me were meant to be together my darling
And if I can not have you then no one can your my darling
Cause I posses your soul, Your mind, Your heart and your body
And I don't want you too ever leave me my darling
You and me were meant to be together my darling
And if I can not have you then no one can your my darling
Cause I posses your soul, Your mind, Your heart and your body
Shady I know your in there some where come here
Talk too me sit here pull up a chair why don't you cut your hair ha ha ha
Dye it back come on try it
Ah No I told you leave me the fuck alone will you!
But I'm here to re-build you
But I already killed you!
But shady we were meant for each other!
Think about your mother!
Yeah so what of her ?
Think about what she did to you and your little brother!
All them foster homes!
Fuck you motherfucker! I had you beat!
No I was playin' possum remember I let you watch your little girls blossom
I gave you enough time your souls mine I'm taking it back!
You fucking bitch! why ?
Because I love you look a little closer, isn't that us on that poster ?
My darling, I don't ever want you to leave me my darling
You and me were meant to be together my darling
And if I can not have you then no one can your my darling
Cause I posses your soul, Your mind, Your heart and your body
And I don't want you too ever leave me my darling
You and me were meant to be together my darling
And if I can not have you then no one can your my darling
Cause I posses your soul, Your mind, Your heart and your body
Shady listen ( SHADY ) you hear that ?
They screamin' for you I can bring you career back!
But I don't want it back, Yes you!, No I don't!
Yes you do your gonna regret it later, No I wont!
I'm a get Dre on the phone I'll just call the doctor
Go ahead I already talk to, Dre yesterday
Well I got him on the phone right now ( Slim? )
Your lying ( Yo Slim? ) How? Why now?
What up Dre ?
Check this out slim I gotta talk to you
I dunno it just seems like ever since you got off your
Drugs you became a lot softer!
But Dre! all shady is, is a bottle of hair bleach and vodka!
Well just think about slim I'm here!
Just hit me back and let me know what's up ?
Fuck this mirror! Ah!
I'm not in the mirror I'm inside you let me guide you!
Fuck you! Die you son-of-a-bitch!
Put the gun down! Bye bye!
Okay I'm still alive! So am I too! You cant kill a spirit even if you tried to
You sold your soul to me need I remind you ?
You remember that night you
Prayed to god you'd give anything to get a record deal well Dre signed you!
This is what you wanted your whole life Marshall right? Boo!
Look at this house! look at these cars! I'm so nice oh!
Oh but you didn't know that fame has a price too ?
That your just now seeing the downside too!
Lose your best friend from high school your wife too!
Aint even sure if your kids like you!
Come off tour cant even sleep at night without NyQuil
Think of the Valium addicts start a rehab cycle
But together we can break the cycle
Marshall? What!
No ones gonna love you like I do!
My darling, I don't ever want you to leave me my darling
You and me were meant to be together my darling
And if I can not have you then no one can your my darling
Cause I posses your soul, Your mind, your heart and your body
And I don't want you too ever leave me my darling
You and me were meant to be together my darling
And if I can not have you then no one can your my darling
Cause I posses your soul, Your mind, your heart and your body
Said, I don't ever want you to leave me my darling
You and me were meant to be together my darling
And if I can not have you then no one can your my darling
Cause I posses your soul, Your mind, your heart and your body

What The ! this is really scary, it's like he's saying that he literally posses you and you can do nothing about it, accept it.

Wandering mind · May 3, 2018

blissfate said:
They might just have a lot going on with different members

Yes true.

blissfate · May 3, 2018

catalenaah said:
even if they were to say how they feel etc they will be attacked by online mafia BTS fans...
You are what you eat... You also are what you listen to..
Think about it when you're sad if you listen to sad music you only feel worse

exactly this is just going to make people feel worse and more depressed (if they already have depression)
...not good for a group who is planning on being mainstream
unless they're going for the emo type of group

blissfate · May 3, 2018

ShiningCarat14 said:
yes I have they have very catchy songs which get stuck into my brain a lot they transmit these signals to the subconscious mind so that’s why we repeat these phrases over again it’s scary and it links to the whole brainwashing music entertainment likes to do all linking to the NWO and making people follow them by making their brains immune to these signals and therefore their whole bodies weaker

the more you say such things toward yourself.. the more you become what you're repeating
(ex: A girl continously repeats it that shes ugly everyday etc, a few years pass and she no longer has friends, is a loner. Meanwhile, a girl repeats to herself she is beautiful everyday, few years later she becomes popular and everyone loves her)
It's called the law of attraction lol
Why its important to choose your songs wisely is because it depends on belief system.. and listening to songs with hidden messages can portray those messages and make your brain accept it. So the longer you repeat the message the stronger the effect of it is

Although I doubt what you're saying has to do with messages under the music, you just find it catchy lol
It happens even with songs that don't have hidden messages under the music

MochiAmour · May 3, 2018

catalenaah said:
Something I'd like to comment on is that on their photos that they upload on Twitter they seem to be heavily edited. For example they whiten their skin more (which I understand white skin is a beauty standard in Korea) however you'd think with all the fame and fans that are "in love" with them they would learn to Love themselves (no pun intended), especially Jimin he often looks more feminine on his photos than IRL. With the power they have on social media I wish they would break the stereotype of skin whitening, I saw unedited photos of them at Billboard awards and I thought they looked great with tan skin!

It's just a preference. We prefer tan skin where I'm from and I've spent years tanning and spending money on bronzers, etc. bc I don't like my skin pale. Doesn't mean I don't love myself and think pale skin is ugly just I bc I don't like it on myself. I happen to think I look healthier with a sunkissed glow. It's not fair to say one preference is right while the other is wrong since they're 2 different cultures. I don't agree with bashing skin tones and making someone feel inferior because of it though. I know BTS has done that in the past and probably still do which I don't agree with.

Also, just an observation, this thread is starting to feel like the main one. It seems to be becoming more centered on BTS/ARMY bashing then about discussing the actual topic at hand. Anything related to what it's supposed to be about seems to be getting glossed over. Armys who may want to discuss the topic might be steering clear because of this. Just my opinion.

catalenaah · May 3, 2018

Wandering mind said:
What The ! this is really scary, it's like he's saying that he literally posses you and you can do nothing about it, accept it.

Exactly. He’s saying he sold his soul to the devil and there’s no taking it back. If you listen to the song it’s 2 voices one is Em and the other voice is the devil it’s creepy but very direct song. The devil says didn’t you say you’d do anything for money and fame etc

Maggieca · May 3, 2018

MochiAmour said:
Also, just an observation, this thread is starting to feel like the main one. It seems to be becoming more centered on BTS/ARMY bashing then about discussing the actual topic at hand. Anything related to what it's supposed to be about seems to be getting glossed over. Armys who may want to discuss the topic might be steering clear because of this. Just my opinion.

I understand if you feel that way, these past few days a lot of new users joined the thread so it's more active but I think we discuss the topic at hand too
In the last few pages we talked about satanic cults, blood sacrifices, the contradiction in BTS music and their image, the relationship between the Sewol Ferry and the song Spring Day, the way their company is making profit out of the mental health of the fans, one user made a deep analysis of the song "pied pieper" and another user did an analysis of the "spring day" choreo

all this subjects are related to the main topic of the thread. But I think it's impossible to not discuss the members and the fans if we are talking about the group. Of course if anyone feels offended about anything that has been discussed here they are free to say it

ShiningCarat14 · May 4, 2018

blissfate said:
the more you say such things toward yourself.. the more you become what you're repeating
(ex: A girl continously repeats it that shes ugly everyday etc, a few years pass and she no longer has friends, is a loner. Meanwhile, a girl repeats to herself she is beautiful everyday, few years later she becomes popular and everyone loves her)
It's called the law of attraction lol
Why its important to choose your songs wisely is because it depends on belief system.. and listening to songs with hidden messages can portray those messages and make your brain accept it. So the longer you repeat the message the stronger the effect of it is

Although I doubt what you're saying has to do with messages under the music, you just find it catchy lol
It happens even with songs that don't have hidden messages under the music

Ahh thank you I don’t know much about them and yh they probably are just catchy but I didn’t really listen to them a lot like I didn’t even like BS&T so I only watch it once or twice but it was still in my head

Wandering mind · May 4, 2018

catalenaah said:
Exactly. He’s saying he sold his soul to the devil and there’s no taking it back. If you listen to the song it’s 2 voices one is Em and the other voice is the devil it’s creepy but very direct song. The devil says didn’t you say you’d do anything for money and fame etc

Oh my God. The sad thing is he's got a lot of fans that listened to this song, that's sad and scary.

Chic · May 4, 2018

I'm still trying to catch up on this thread, lol. There's a just so much to ponder on! I enjoy reading everyone's take on them.

I want to say that I have never liked calling Kpop singers "idols." It never has set well with me and I believe calling them "idols" actually feeds into the brainwashing and propaganda. Notice a lot of them have lyrics that tell fans to "follow" them. I picked up on this when I first got into the genre back in 2013.

Also, from what I can see, some of us are still BTS fans, but we still want a safe space to discuss the issues within the group and the troublesome fandom. I see nothing wrong with this since this is the BTS thread where everything can be discussed.

Maggieca · May 4, 2018

Chic said:
Also, from what I can see, some of us are still BTS fans, but we still want a safe space to discuss the issues within the group and the troublesome fandom. I see nothing wrong with this since this is the BTS thread where everything can be discussed.

yeah a lot of the users here feel happy because they found a place where they can discuss BTS and share their "unpopular opinion" without being attacked
I also want to clarify that when we talk about armys we are refering to the fans we see on social media who don't accept any type of criticism and think BTS members and Bighit are perfect and can do no wrong

I assume the users who are taking part of this thread are more open minded and accept that BTS could be involved with the occult and their popularity is not a coincidence

Some users said they don't listen to BTS anymore while others say they are still fans and want to go to their concerts, both opnions are completely valid and should be respected
But if you don't want to read anything negative about the group then I don't think this is the right place to be, there are going to be some ugly things being discussed because we are talking about satanism after all

Chic · May 4, 2018

tyrab said:
In most music videos Jimin appears at 3.33 The Number 3 = the 'Jesus connection'. Angel Number 333 tells you that the Ascended Masters are near you. They have responded to your prayers and wish to help and assist you in your endeavours and with serving your life purpose and soul mission. ... Number 333 relates to number 9 (3+3+3=9) and Angel Number 9

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/980906452767436802

Would you believe I was listening to Lie in my car a months ago and while it was playing I looked at the clock and it read 3:33? I was floored!

Forgive me...yall know I'm still reading old posts.

1shae123 · May 4, 2018

Today I just continued to think about how heavy their brainwashing their music is. Although I have been without listening to them ever since I found out the truth about them, a lot of their music is still in my playlists. I usually to skip the songs that come up. However, sometimes the music just slips into my head and I end up dancing and singing along before I even realize who I am listening to. It's like someone flipped a switch and I become super fan again.... It's really wild and alarming actually

Wandering mind · May 5, 2018

Chic said:
I want to say that I have never liked calling Kpop singers "idols." It never has set well with me and I believe calling them "idols" actually feeds into the brainwashing and propaganda. Notice a lot of them have lyrics that tell fans to "follow" them. I picked up on this when I first got into the genre back in 2013.

Also, from what I can see, some of us are still BTS fans, but we still want a safe space to discuss the issues within the group and the troublesome fandom. I see nothing wrong with this since this is the BTS thread where everything can be discussed.

In my opinion, idols as a word stands for worshipping and I don't like that word. I think we should stop idolising them because they're just humans like us, nothing is wrong with being a fan of course but not to the extent of viewing them as some sort of gods or something.

Also about the BTS and fandom thing, this is the first time I felt free to discuss every wrong and right with the fandom and the group, I can't discuss this with my friends or on another platforms because most of the people's thoughts are fake there, some can't admit what they really feel and they easily hate on everyone who has a different point of view, also we can't discuss BTS illuminati without discussing what's wrong with the fandom, for me that's just not possible.

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