Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

kriand600

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I’m not gonna lie. I’m a fan of BTS. They are the only kpop Group I really like. It’s weird hearing these discussions about them because I watched a few reaction videos of them either reacting to their music videos or performances. What I got from it is that they don’t plan this stuff.yea they are involved in the music but for the visual stuff, they show up and do the work. They seem to be just as surprised at these images as we are, but their surprise is in amazement.




Adding. I continued to watch these video and on part 3 of these video they mentioned the butterfly graphics that kept appearing and how they started seeing more of those images after the Blood, Sweat, and tears video. They don’t know...
Have you ever heard of something called a fake image? It's okay to be a little suspicious, just don't be like a literal ARMY who will bash anyone who even peeps about them. They've done something to those poor little girls. For sure, the boys are reading scripts.
 

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They're about 21-23. Ive heard them say they've been living with each other for 7 years. So the youngest would have been about 13-14 years old when they formed. If this has been your life for 7 years, working every day to be a pop star, especially through the development years, all this can be viewed as normal. Maybe RM knows something, who knows. But i dont believe every one of them knows the full depth of what they are into.


As for the videos a lot of creepy things are passing as "artistic" expression.
Photos, paintings, movie posters, commercials, they can just shove it under "art" and it is accepted.
they know about everything the fans say about them on the internet: (the memes and the jokes) wich means they also read the theories about their creepy videos
Its impossible for them to not to know about the satanic symbols in their music because their fans are coming out with theories every day and explaining all the images in the videos. You can find these theories are all over social media

And the lyrics to their songs are too creepy to not be suspicious. When Jimin read the lyrics to his song "lie" he thought it was a normal song? anyone with common sense would feel strange singing that disturbing song for no reason

I'm sure they dont know everything that is going on behind the scenes but they know who is their real boss and what things they need to promote.
Dont forget that the image you see on TV is not reality. All those kpop groups have an image for each member and they just go by their role so of course they will act innocent on camera. That is their job
 

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Also, I believe that they know what they're doing. They've been in the industry for a very long time they'd be blind to not know. If not, they certainly live by the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. I don't think that they're as genuine as alot of people think. I'm starting to believe their whole image is a facade for the cameras and we don't really know who they really are as much as they try to convince us that we do. It's all part of the image to keep Armys committed to them because of how much we feel like we truly "know them" on a personal level.
Exactly. I believe RM is the one who knows the most but the others know what they are doing too, they just don't get involved that much and are just there for the money and the fame

Their CEO already said his "formula" is to keep BTS close to the fans, to make them feel like they know them
so we cant believe everything we see on camera, a lot of the times they are just following a script and the relationship between them is also promoted according to what the company wants
 

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New poster here! I finally finished going through the whole thread- it took me a few days!

I've been looking for a discussion like this for a long time but never found one until now. I've been a fan of BTS since I discovered them during the BST era and have been obsessed with them since. I never had any interest in K-Pop, don't think I ever really heard anything about it come to think of it, until then. They're the only artists I listen to so I've never really considered myself a "K-Popper" tbh since I have no interest in anyone else in that genre. The only ones I listen to every now and then are BlackPink, Sunmi and Taemin but very sporadically.

They caught my eye because they looked different than anyone else I had seen (I'm a Westerner) and Jimin was the one who caught my attention and I had to know more about him. It was like he hypnotized me. Ever since that day I've been 100% devoted to them and it's so weird considering I've never really cared about any artist/group that much outside of their music in my entire life. I liked their BST concept because of how dark it seemed and it was alluring. I'm familiar with the "illuminati" and apparent symbolism so the more I got into them, the more I noticed it and often wondered. I never knew them before that era so I can understand the wonder of how they became so popular suddenly. It seemed like that era was the period they gained alot more attention and fans. Is it a coincidence though? I'm not sure anymore.

I've tried to distract myself many times from them because of how much I feel for them and I don't think this level of devotion is normal. But I can't seen to stay away from them for too long. I'm so loyal to them, it's very eerie, even I can see it..

Also, I believe that they know what they're doing. They've been in the industry for a very long time they'd be blind to not know. If not, they certainly live by the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. I don't think that they're as genuine as alot of people think. I'm starting to believe their whole image is a facade for the cameras and we don't really know who they really are as much as they try to convince us that we do. It's all part of the image to keep Armys committed to them because of how much we feel like we truly "know them" on a personal level.

Sorry I rambled on so long but I needed to vent since none of my friends or family are into K-Pop and/or don't believe in the occult/illuminati.


I understand what you're saying but Im not obsessed with them, the only reason I like their sound more is because it's closer to Western music, I dont like Techno and a lot of other Kpop sounds techno to me. Jimin does stand out to me too out of everyone. I know they can have false images, story lines etc, but you can't fake everything. Especially when you are on camera, or if your not paying attention to something, things can come out through body language. Of course with live performances, they have to put on a show, they have to have that stage presence and swag to sell their songs. no one is gonna watch people perform that aren't really confident in their words or moves.
Same with the interviews, celebs do interviews to sell themselves and brand themselves.

I love to watch the reaction videos because there's only so much you can script and you can't script every word and reaction. The main thing that I notice is that even though they do perform well, they are still highly critical of themselves. This is where Jimin stands out to me because often times when every one is kinda chill and in the moment. Jimin, even though he's present, he smiles and talks but he's distant. I think that's more of a real aspect of his personality, he's most likely a shy person.(but im concern, that he's the one they blind fold). i recognize that as a shy person also. Same with Suga, he may not be shy, but he's a reserved personality. There are shy people who can get up on stage and perform so well and you'd never know, but you can always tell, when you see them interact personably.

As for them in the industry, I know that it's a machine, it's made to pump every dime out of you that it can even if you die.

Ive seen a contract even for the talent shows like Xfactor, the voice etc. and even then just going on as a contestant, they own you and everything you've ever created when you go on the show and often times after even, if you didn't win.

so im not gonna say they know everything that their doing because there are multiple people other than the "artists" that are involved in their sound, image, branding, marketing, etc.
 

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Recently there was a shooting at a florida school, do any of you guys thinks that this could be a sacrifice for the olympics? cause, i sure do!
 

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And why are all these controversies happening at the Olympics?
Strange things indeed happen a lot in the Olympics and about that we need to ask those who are behind the curtain. It's their games though. :/
 

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Their reactions vids do show genuine reactions but at the same time they're still controlled. There's a reason why those and their V Lives are monitored and someone's always present during them. You can often find them looking behind the camera at people as if they're being told something. Maybe they're even being warned, you never know.

I never knew Jimin before the BST era but from what I've seen, he's definitely toned down and is quieter (shy if you want to call it that). I'm sure he's matured which plays a part but I feel like he's not as happy as he used to be. Taehyung too seems very up and down. But we don't know what goes on behind the scenes since we only know what they want us to know. Something in their eyes doesn't seem right.
You're right. Especially when their managers are there with them.
 
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Death could also be in mental terms too so yeah, maybe he died inside without us even know why. Either it's from his family or SM instead.

P.S : Look at his t-shirt that I've just found suddenly.

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wow Chanyeol wearing this now? what a coincidence, he looks sad, we don't know what they go through, may be dreams some time inform us...I waked up and was feelings so sad for the dream I was having...I hope he will be well
 
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they know about everything the fans say about them on the internet: (the memes and the jokes) wich means they also read the theories about their creepy videos
Its impossible for them to not to know about the satanic symbols in their music because their fans are coming out with theories every day and explaining all the images in the videos. You can find these theories are all over social media

And the lyrics to their songs are too creepy to not be suspicious. When Jimin read the lyrics to his song "lie" he thought it was a normal song? anyone with common sense would feel strange singing that disturbing song for no reason

I'm sure they dont know everything that is going on behind the scenes but they know who is their real boss and what things they need to promote.
Dont forget that the image you see on TV is not reality. All those kpop groups have an image for each member and they just go by their role so of course they will act innocent on camera. That is their job
have BTS ever said they see whats going on in the internet? consider their hectic schedule, I am not sure if Kpop celebrities stay in the Internet
 
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Reading all these comments breaks my heart... this is crazy. This never really happens with Western entertainment or anything else. But girls and even guys get attached to a whole other culture and society that's on the other side of the world because of MUSIC, and they judge themselves and change their appearance and habits. There really are demonic forces behind K-Pop.


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Reading all these comments breaks my heart... this is crazy. This never really happens with Western entertainment or anything else. But girls and even guys get attached to a whole other culture and society that's on the other side of the world because of MUSIC, and they judge themselves and change their appearance and habits. There really are demonic forces behind K-Pop.


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Wow Kpop is no unhealthy, it did influenced me certainly in a bad way, but thanks God, not into hating my appearance.
seriously, this industry is much better for everyone including the celebrities if it just go away :rolleyes:
 

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Reading all these comments breaks my heart... this is crazy. This never really happens with Western entertainment or anything else. But girls and even guys get attached to a whole other culture and society that's on the other side of the world because of MUSIC, and they judge themselves and change their appearance and habits. There really are demonic forces behind K-Pop.


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I wouldn't say it's weird. we are all influenced by what we see even in western cultures. personally im just getting into the dramas. I started learning Japanese because I was interested in the culture based on what I saw in the shows, same with Korean, I want to eventually learn the language. The shows definitely inspired me to cook more and eat healthier, because everything the cooked looked great and in every episode cooking and eating was always a thing. As for their skin regiment and appearance, they all look beautiful, their skin is amazing, no acne, no wrinkles, no blemishes, etc. Why wouldn't anyone want to do a regiment to have those effects on their appearance? As far as people becoming insecure about themselves because of what they see, that falls into personal and self confidence issues, but it doesn't hurt to see and admire.
 

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Reading all these comments breaks my heart... this is crazy. This never really happens with Western entertainment or anything else. But girls and even guys get attached to a whole other culture and society that's on the other side of the world because of MUSIC, and they judge themselves and change their appearance and habits. There really are demonic forces behind K-Pop.


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I think this isn't exclusive to Kpop, we're all affected by popular culture in many ways. Video games became very popular in South Korea only after gaming machines were introduced by both USA and Japan, and now the worst cases of video game addiction (VGA) and deaths caused by it are mostly associated with South Korea, even when video games weren't invented there in the first place. It shows how greatly a culture may affect another.

Before Kpop started influencing people worldwide, the Korean culture itself (early Kpop is included) was actually affected by Western entertainment and popular culture. I was one of those kids who wish to dye my hair blonde after high school because these guys were my inspiration:

And believe me or not, blonde hair was never a trend in South Korea before Western entertainment came along after 1994.

Moreover, the unrealistic beauty standards they are showing on Kpop only started to emerge in the raise of Kpop. If you take a look at early Kpop artists, it's like they didn't really give a damn on how they look, they were more focused on their works and nothing else. Sure, the elites' influence were already inside since the 1990s, but they didn't start messing with the fans' minds before they found the right formula: the so-called Korean beauty standards and all.

I've actually done some studies on this, this may be out of topic (sorry for babbling!), but it just saddens me that people (especially newer Kpop fans) start generalizing the Korean beauty standards and vanity as something born in the Korean society, out of the blue, and since God-knows-when, based on those Youtube comments. According to some literature, the Korean popular culture was heavily influenced by other cultures such as Japanese and Western cultures:
.....Anti-Japanese nationalism played a significant role in Koreans’ readiness to consider western ideals of beauty standards. Since the Korean liberation in 1945, much effort has gone into highlighting Korean self-identity and changing appearances as a way of differentiating themselves from the Japanese. Rather than a pure imitation of western features, people in Korea who have become obsessed with physical perfection, are defiant of any similarity to Japanese physiques and of psychological aversion against Japanese colonialism.....​
Wang, Y., 2015. Behind South Korean cosmetic surgery: its historical causes and its intertwined relationship with Korean pop culture (Doctoral dissertation, University of Delaware).

.....Within this context, Westernisation has some influence on the visible signs of wealth. However, in the areas of beauty and cosmetics it is interesting to note that adopting certain norms has actually contributed to the creation of specific criteria of beauty that some observers call "hybrid", but which, in the Asian context, are considered to be of Korean origin. These well-defined criteria are particularly coded for women, who must present a face that is as regular and symmetrical as possible, with a "narrower lower face, large eyes, a small mouth and a fine, oval jaw line" (Rhee Seung Chul cited by Elfving-Hwang 2013). As for the body, the norm is long slender legs. These norms are relatively recent and not just the result of the authorisation, after 1994, to use Western fashion models in Korean advertising (which was banned up to this time, or at any rate, strictly controlled by the State). In Korea, the promotion of Western standards of beauty is part of the auto-definition of Korean beauty, especially in comparison with Japanese notions of aesthetics, from which a distance must be kept (or at least this is what is said in Korea).....​
Gelézeau, V., 2015. The body, cosmetics and aesthetics in South Korea The emergence of a field of research.
Some note on the effeminacy of male beauty in South Korea (if you're wondering why the heck male celebs nowadays look so feminine):
.....Still, in Korea, where beautiful male pop icons are now commonly referred to as kkonminam (kkot = flower; minam = handsome man), Korean male beauty has, by any standard of judgement, taken on a distinctly effeminate quality.....​

.....The emergence of kkonminam is frequently linked to the enormous rise in popularity in Korea of the yaoi genre of comics, following the lifting of the ban on Japanese popular culture in 1998. In the original Japanese yaoi comics, men are commonly depicted with somewhat elf-like features. They often engage in homosexual relationships, and are idealised as soft, sensitive and selfless.....​
Maliangkay, R., 2010. The effeminacy of male beauty in Korea. IIAS Newsletter, 55, pp.6-7.

I agree with @UnspokenSoliloquy, that it has something to do with personal and self confidence issues. Whether you let that bad influence affects you or not, it's really your own choice. Of course it's harder for foreigners to fit in the Korean society because they don't seem to belong to Korean cultural standards, but if you think of it, it really doesn't make sense because we all have our own culture and that's what really matters, right? Nothing is wrong with liking or learning about other cultures, it only gets bad when your obsession becomes unrealistic and you start degrading your own culture. I think that's what's happening to most Kpop fans nowadays.
 
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