Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[Maggieca]

I notice that in recent Red Velvet performances Irene is always wearing a cross as part of her outfit

Weird considering there is nothing refering to god in the music video or the song, in fact the lyrics talk about being "possesed"
Maybe is just a fashion statement

 

[Maggieca]

And to be completely honest, I'm guilty of doing some of this as well. I don't even consider myself a k-pop fan but I'll find myself watching a certain MV (like Red Velvet's Bad Boy) over and over again for no reason. Like I'm drawn to it even though I'm not a fan. I just find the video so aesthetically pleasing and completely enamored with Red Velvet's members. I think it partly has to do with having pride for my ethnicity and since Koreans have always been under the radar up until now, or maybe it's also the demonic influence. So I really can't blame the fans for doing this because I totally get it.

I understand watching the video because you find the members atractive, like I said visuals is one of the main appeals of kpop and the biggest weapon the companies use to hypnotize fans

But the obsessive behaviour still amazes me. im talking about people who vote for every poll they see on the internet, people who buy a million copies of the same album, people who can't accept idols are humans with flaws

There has to be a moment when you look at yourself and think: why am I spending so much money on a stranger? why do I think this person is perfect and I worship them?

 

[Josh]

I understand watching the video because you find the members atractive, like I said visuals is one of the main appeals of kpop and the biggest weapon the companies use to hypnotize fans

But the obsessive behaviour still amazes me. im talking about people who vote for every poll they see on the internet, people who buy a million copies of the same album, people who can't accept idols are humans with flaws

There has to be a moment when you look at yourself and think: why am I spending so much money on a stranger? why do I think this person is perfect and I worship them?

You're right, it's actually unnatural the way many fans behave about k-pop. I think it could be classified as a full on cult. But that's why I've been saying that there has to be some underlying, supernatural influences that makes these fans so obsessive and addicte to k-pop. It's their religion and they are so so devoted to it. This is no different than when the people physically worshipped the idols and statues during Biblical times. And just like then, God's wrath will come.

 

[hyorishthottie]

Yeah, I'm honestly confused and in awe at how many young people, especially girls, suddenly want to move to Korea because of K-Pop and K-dramas. I'm born and raised in the States but I really want to move to Korea because I'm Korean, can speak basic Korean and I think the Korean city and lifestyle suits me more than America. But it's crazy how influential K-Pop is on these fans' lives. There was a youtube video about how k-pop girls get skinny legs, by injecting something in their legs through a surgical procedure and in the comment section, all these girls were saying how they want to do that to their legs to get skinnier. Same with facial plastic surgery, I feel like young girls are becoming more open to the idea of getting plastic surgery themselves since their K-Pop idols are normalizing it. And even regardless surgery, probably becoming more self-conscious and vain about their appearance in general.

I've never seen anything like this before. How obsessive and entrenched many k-pop fans are. I don't even think Bieber fans were this into it when Bieber was at his early peak. I truly think the demonic forces behind the industry are spiritually binding fans which is how they're so addicted and literally possessed by K-Pop. That's why they leave subtle (or very obvious) symbolisms in their MVs and lyrics, to get a foothold on their soul. When you watch K-Pop MV reaction videos, the fans behave erratically and consumed by it. It's scary.

Oh my god yes! I actually knew a girl who was saving money to get carboxy shots in her legs to make her thighs skinner. They always leave a mark on your thighs like scars so you can tell when female idols got them done, cause I've seen many idols with the bruises on the back and side of their thighs after the procedure. A lot of these girls haven't even held a conversation with a korean whether it's american korean, korean studying in america, or native korean. I've spoken to many male koreans over language apps and I can't do it. A handful are very sweet and okay, but for the most part they all kinda have the same ideology and it's very in the box. They all ask first and foremost what do you do for a living and if you're in school before they even ask your name. It's like meeting a bunch of people who may have different personalities but they're thinking under it all is very similar. It was too much of an annoyance and headache for me. I've got plenty more examples but for me I realized that no matter what korea at the end of the day is just like every over society. you've got the glamorous cities, the run down parts, the regular everyday homes. There's good and bad. I mention the asking what you do cause it seems that your career and education or any success is your introductory and like your id card when it comes to socializing. If these little girls who are deadbeats go to korea and expect to find oppa they gonna end up very hurt and confused.

I think these girls are looking at like an instant fantasy or a dream place. it's very brainwashing. I knew a girl who was dead determined to go to korea, very sterotypical like the rest, I never understood it. but then again she had an unhealthy obsession with Suho from EXO even Jonghyun died all she did was speak of him. I wouldn't mind living in korea but I know I'd always be an outsider never one of them. Plus I'm mega tall and very ethnic looking so it wouldn't be an automatic open arms it'd take a while to adjust.

And exactly!!! Justin Bieber fad was never like this it was basic heart throb mania but even himself as a kid he was normal. Bieber admitted that they tried to get him to have sex with a boy and kill a boy at an industry party but he didn't do it and left the party.
Also it's ruining communication with foreigners and koreans. I've had so many instances where koreans would automatically put me down or assume that I knew a lot of the culture cause I was a fan girl or just assume I was a kpop fan off the bat. If I showed how knolwedgeable I was they'd make me look like I was obsessed or had a problem. So I don't even go out of my way to talk to any of them anymore. Overall the koreans are very cool and nice but this fantasy the korean entertainment is painting is brainwashing people.

Also I've met some pretty f'ucked up people through kpop who are all suffering from some sort of emotional or physical abuse and they live and breathe this genre. They've done sketchy things and crazier things than any other fanclub has.

 

[Masked crusader7]

Finally someone created a thread for this!

When I first heard about Jonghyun's suicide, it was said that police was arriving for AN HOUR! Which is lame and inappropriate and indicates that something is fishy.. And after that someone said that Jonghyun is still alive and in critical condition and this info came from people who are gathered next to hospital. I wonder if he really died before the police arrived or he was alive all that time ...

its all deception most of the time this is ritual suicide the holy spirit told me

 

[hyorishthottie]

You're right, it's actually unnatural the way many fans behave about k-pop. I think it could be classified as a full on cult. But that's why I've been saying that there has to be some underlying, supernatural influences that makes these fans so obsessive and addicte to k-pop. It's their religion and they are so so devoted to it. This is no different than when the people physically worshipped the idols and statues during Biblical times. And just like then, God's wrath will come.

to be very honest k-pop is a religion at this point. the only less calm form of is the rap and hip pop underground scene like gray, loco, jay park, beenzino, the quiett etc but they are problematic within itself. if you find any sane fans they mostly be in that sector.

Kpop is the new religion and false idol worshiping in the world.

 

[Tisane]

Oh my god yes! I actually knew a girl who was saving money to get carboxy shots in her legs to make her thighs skinner. They always leave a mark on your thighs like scars so you can tell when female idols got them done, cause I've seen many idols with the bruises on the back and side of their thighs after the procedure. A lot of these girls haven't even held a conversation with a korean whether it's american korean, korean studying in america, or native korean. I've spoken to many male koreans over language apps and I can't do it. A handful are very sweet and okay, but for the most part they all kinda have the same ideology and it's very in the box. They all ask first and foremost what do you do for a living and if you're in school before they even ask your name. It's like meeting a bunch of people who may have different personalities but they're thinking under it all is very similar. It was too much of an annoyance and headache for me. I've got plenty more examples but for me I realized that no matter what korea at the end of the day is just like every over society. you've got the glamorous cities, the run down parts, the regular everyday homes. There's good and bad. I mention the asking what you do cause it seems that your career and education or any success is your introductory and like your id card when it comes to socializing. If these little girls who are deadbeats go to korea and expect to find oppa they gonna end up very hurt and confused.

I think these girls are looking at like an instant fantasy or a dream place. it's very brainwashing. I knew a girl who was dead determined to go to korea, very sterotypical like the rest, I never understood it. but then again she had an unhealthy obsession with Suho from EXO even Jonghyun died all she did was speak of him. I wouldn't mind living in korea but I know I'd always be an outsider never one of them. Plus I'm mega tall and very ethnic looking so it wouldn't be an automatic open arms it'd take a while to adjust.

And exactly!!! Justin Bieber fad was never like this it was basic heart throb mania but even himself as a kid he was normal. Bieber admitted that they tried to get him to have sex with a boy and kill a boy at an industry party but he didn't do it and left the party.
Also it's ruining communication with foreigners and koreans. I've had so many instances where koreans would automatically put me down or assume that I knew a lot of the culture cause I was a fan girl or just assume I was a kpop fan off the bat. If I showed how knolwedgeable I was they'd make me look like I was obsessed or had a problem. So I don't even go out of my way to talk to any of them anymore. Overall the koreans are very cool and nice but this fantasy the korean entertainment is painting is brainwashing people.

Also I've met some pretty f'ucked up people through kpop who are all suffering from some sort of emotional or physical abuse and they live and breathe this genre. They've done sketchy things and crazier things than any other fanclub has.

on the "mega tall" part - I'm pretty tall (179cm) and the college I went to had a large korean student body - 50% of 1 of my major's depts (there was a sizable grant to the specific college of the university by korean donors & they got an expensive pottery collection - and their enrollment rates in the college went up sizeably). Anyway, as an international student - I joined w/that crowd and my height was average. There were several girls who went past 183, even to 185cm. It just depends.

@black pink being benign - hardly. Watch their videos w/out the sound. They're clearing courting the supernatural there.

"Whistle" is even more eerie when you consider different sound vibrations attract spirits, much like smoke/ashes/burning - does.

 

[hyorishthottie]

Don't even get me started on those translation sites, I had a discussion with my friends about them, and they said to me that there is 100% some agenda behind NB. And the comment section over there is just toxic.

yes the comment section is EXTREMELY toxic. I got into a battle of words with a few of those commentors over there yesterday about lgbtq and it blew up. they are so out of their minds. Yeah NB has an agenda and I believe she doesn't even translate things correctly. I always visit the site everyday to see what is new but I never trust what she says.

 

[Maggieca]

Don't even get me started on those translation sites, I had a discussion with my friends about them, and they said to me that there is 100% some agenda behind NB. And the comment section over there is just toxic.

what type of agenda??
she is trying to make some groups or idols look bad?

I believe it! she translates postive articles about the same groups and always negative things about others

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Hi everyone, I'm new here!
Yesterday I discovered this forum, as well as this thought-provoking discussion, thanks to some researches I've already been doing for some time about this topic that actually kinda frightens me. I've read some of your considerations, and I'd really appreciate any suggestions about a question of mine I'm going to ask now, based on my brief k-pop experience.
I got to know BTS and listen to k-pop just a couple of months ago. Before that, I've actually never been interested in that kind of music or those boy-bands in general. Anyway, I've always been aware of "what" hides behind this industry; I'm a rather curious and skeptical girl who likes to analyse everything about whatever and isn't so susceptible. Because of that, I started to learn about this "corruption" and to keep an eye out for it. Unfortunately, I learned all music industry revolves around these concepts, so basically every artist we come to like is involved in this "project". What I want to say is: even if I've never listened to k-pop until now, it doesn't mean I've been exempt from that influence (even if I'm able to recognize it), since I admit I listen to many American artists that sadly use this symbolism.
So I got to know BTS by chance, and I admit I like most of their songs, leaving their videos and hidden meanings aside. I've become aware of the symbolism they use, YET sometimes I can't stop humming their songs or listening to them because I simply find them catchy. And that's what makes me wonder.
I don't consider myself a "typical" Army. I'm not "obsessed" over those boys. I don't "fangirl" or cry or get too emotionally involved with their songs. They're not "my everything", I've never bought something of them or voted them. Above all, I wouldn't be here - lol -.
Until now, I've just listened to some songs and played some videos about their presumed personality to get to know them better.
But after I got "that sense" about 'em too, after I became suspicious about their messages, after what I discovered and read here... this question arises spontaneously: what do I have to do then? How should I behave? Do I have to stop listening to them? But then I also wonder: "So I should stop listening to almost every artist I know, if that's the solution!", because, as I said bafore, all music is soaked with this propaganda. But... how could I? How could we? I find it impossible! Yes, I want to detach myself from this bad influence, but at the same time, if I really enjoy listening to some songs in general, it's arduous for me to let 'em go, 'cause I'd miss these songs. And I'm pretty sure it's a common thing, not just mine.
Here I happened to read expressions like "good thing I learned to detach myself from it properly", and that made me genuinely impressed. I mean, if it's like that, what music/artist do you listen to? What's your focus? Because everything in that world is "controlled", so we can't be totally exempt. At least, that's my opinion. I could say "Oh really? So no more BTS or k-pop in general!"... but then maybe I'd focus on other genres or artists that promote in a different way the same propaganda!
That's my constant dilemma, my searching for a solution that maybe doesn't exists (and it's sad), and I'm reaching out to you because I'd like some suggestions, some answers, some brainwave to understand things better.
Would it be ok, for example, if I kept listening to their songs BUT knowing what's behind those videos and so being able to be exempt from the influence? Would it work? Is it enough?
Thanks in advance

I understand what you went through because I have been there, for me, listening to Kpop is something VERY different from any other kinds of genres, don't know why or whats the secret, but Kpop have very negative influence upon me, it makes me very obsessed, possessed like, any other kind of music in this world doesn't do that to me, I have tried all kinds of music one can imagine, I have listened to Traditional music, religious, patriotic or military music, rap music, mainstream pop music like Cpop or American one, I honestly didn't notice anything negative with all of these kinds of genres on me, the only one who was negative is Kpop.
I don't know if thats also true for other people, but for me, it was ok to listen to Cpop, and I am trying now to get into Jpop as replacement but I find the genre not appealing to me, I only liked two songs out of hundred lol, so I think for now I will stick to Taiwanese Cpop.
so my advice, its better if you really feel Kpop is influenced you in negative way to find replacement, try Cpop or Jpop see if it appeal to you, these two genres doesn't have the same appearance of the Illuminati in it like that of Kpop, its much less, and there is many songs I saw there that doesn't have anything to do with the Illuminati(not saying the Illuminati signs or agenda aren't there).
if you don't want anything at all that has to do with illuminati, try traditional or religious songs, most of them have nothing to do with the illuminati but obviously some has.
Good luck

 

[hyorishthottie]

I got banned multiple times, because I called her out. I think AJ exposed her and said he doesn't even know who is behind that site. Cause one time the site stated there are multiple translators. I started hating that site after they orchestrated the T-Ara witch hunt. She also bans anyone who says something positive about 2NE1, BigBang and BP. Is she paid by SM or something?

Right? I honestly began to think that too. I think she may be one of SM's workers or have a connection to them. I can't remember the last time I seen a positive post about bigbang that was genuinely positive aside from expected things like taeyang marriage. I'm surprised I haven't gotten banned over there yet cause I really don't BS anything and I tell it like it is.

Most of the commentors there are sick in the head. the ones who aren't get downvoted and hounded to death. I'm not sure about asian junkie yet since I haven't been on it in a long time, but I find the girl who runs it way of reporting it a bit of annoying.

 

[hyorishthottie]

TBH and if someone exposes NB and her minions, all of the sudden there is someone who is defending her. Isn't that weird? Like you are on some random OH thread that drags NB or on some AJ article and there will be always one troll that is defending her. It's so annoying.
Idk if she has any connection to SM, because she always translates mean comments about EXO. She made the whole i-fan community hate on Hyosung for some unknown reason. She's seriously trash and I'm glad our forum (the one I go to very often) is exposing her. But I don't want to link in there, since it would be filled with obsessive kpop fans and it goes against VC's rules.

if you can please inbox it to me the link.

but she has a lot of power and it's being used the wrong way. The commentors are always contradicting themselves it's very odd. it feels like talking to really mentally insane people who are being hard headed. LOL omg yes someone is always defending her there is nothing about NB that needs defending really. I rather turn to tarot readers and psychics sometimes cause they give real legit tea about idols and tell you a lot about idols that many overlook. like CL I knew she'd be allover the place and switching to pop then scattered cause of someone who let me know on tumblr plus I sorta saw it for myself anyways.

I'm surprised nobody boycotts the site.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Oh my god yes! I actually knew a girl who was saving money to get carboxy shots in her legs to make her thighs skinner. They always leave a mark on your thighs like scars so you can tell when female idols got them done, cause I've seen many idols with the bruises on the back and side of their thighs after the procedure. A lot of these girls haven't even held a conversation with a korean whether it's american korean, korean studying in america, or native korean. I've spoken to many male koreans over language apps and I can't do it. A handful are very sweet and okay, but for the most part they all kinda have the same ideology and it's very in the box. They all ask first and foremost what do you do for a living and if you're in school before they even ask your name. It's like meeting a bunch of people who may have different personalities but they're thinking under it all is very similar. It was too much of an annoyance and headache for me. I've got plenty more examples but for me I realized that no matter what korea at the end of the day is just like every over society. you've got the glamorous cities, the run down parts, the regular everyday homes. There's good and bad. I mention the asking what you do cause it seems that your career and education or any success is your introductory and like your id card when it comes to socializing. If these little girls who are deadbeats go to korea and expect to find oppa they gonna end up very hurt and confused.

I think these girls are looking at like an instant fantasy or a dream place. it's very brainwashing. I knew a girl who was dead determined to go to korea, very sterotypical like the rest, I never understood it. but then again she had an unhealthy obsession with Suho from EXO even Jonghyun died all she did was speak of him. I wouldn't mind living in korea but I know I'd always be an outsider never one of them. Plus I'm mega tall and very ethnic looking so it wouldn't be an automatic open arms it'd take a while to adjust.

And exactly!!! Justin Bieber fad was never like this it was basic heart throb mania but even himself as a kid he was normal. Bieber admitted that they tried to get him to have sex with a boy and kill a boy at an industry party but he didn't do it and left the party.
Also it's ruining communication with foreigners and koreans. I've had so many instances where koreans would automatically put me down or assume that I knew a lot of the culture cause I was a fan girl or just assume I was a kpop fan off the bat. If I showed how knolwedgeable I was they'd make me look like I was obsessed or had a problem. So I don't even go out of my way to talk to any of them anymore. Overall the koreans are very cool and nice but this fantasy the korean entertainment is painting is brainwashing people.

Also I've met some pretty f'ucked up people through kpop who are all suffering from some sort of emotional or physical abuse and they live and breathe this genre. They've done sketchy things and crazier things than any other fanclub has.

I went through this phase lol, I understand this obsession, I badly wanted to move to Korea and still feel it sometime but I understand now that Korea is very homogeneous and it might not work out, plus the language barrier, and the pressure whether they will accept foreigner like me or not, I have seen few Koreans in real life, it was nice experience but I didn't get deep with them, I also tried to show like I didn't know anything about Kpop lol so I wouldn't be classified as these stereotypes brainwashed kpop fan girls, I also realized whether its Japanese or Korean, its good to show that you don't know too much about their culture, showing that you know little is better lol, so thats what I do usually, they also judge , or having some sort of judgmental way of thinking.
any way, I think places that have multicultural is better accepting of foreigner like USA(Haven't been there though), kinda off topic, but any way, these Kpop fans once they moved to Korea, they most likely will be shocked, because its not fantasy place like they imagined, they would probably have cultural shock.
lastly, I am someone who has listened to many music from different countries, and Kpop was the only kind of music that made crazily wanting to move to the country itself, lol its weird, I believe in the spell they put in Kpop, probably Korean government want to expand tourism, so this is one of the thing they do.

 

[Josh]

Oh my god yes! I actually knew a girl who was saving money to get carboxy shots in her legs to make her thighs skinner. They always leave a mark on your thighs like scars so you can tell when female idols got them done, cause I've seen many idols with the bruises on the back and side of their thighs after the procedure. A lot of these girls haven't even held a conversation with a korean whether it's american korean, korean studying in america, or native korean. I've spoken to many male koreans over language apps and I can't do it. A handful are very sweet and okay, but for the most part they all kinda have the same ideology and it's very in the box. They all ask first and foremost what do you do for a living and if you're in school before they even ask your name. It's like meeting a bunch of people who may have different personalities but they're thinking under it all is very similar. It was too much of an annoyance and headache for me. I've got plenty more examples but for me I realized that no matter what korea at the end of the day is just like every over society. you've got the glamorous cities, the run down parts, the regular everyday homes. There's good and bad. I mention the asking what you do cause it seems that your career and education or any success is your introductory and like your id card when it comes to socializing. If these little girls who are deadbeats go to korea and expect to find oppa they gonna end up very hurt and confused.

I think these girls are looking at like an instant fantasy or a dream place. it's very brainwashing. I knew a girl who was dead determined to go to korea, very sterotypical like the rest, I never understood it. but then again she had an unhealthy obsession with Suho from EXO even Jonghyun died all she did was speak of him. I wouldn't mind living in korea but I know I'd always be an outsider never one of them. Plus I'm mega tall and very ethnic looking so it wouldn't be an automatic open arms it'd take a while to adjust.

And exactly!!! Justin Bieber fad was never like this it was basic heart throb mania but even himself as a kid he was normal. Bieber admitted that they tried to get him to have sex with a boy and kill a boy at an industry party but he didn't do it and left the party.
Also it's ruining communication with foreigners and koreans. I've had so many instances where koreans would automatically put me down or assume that I knew a lot of the culture cause I was a fan girl or just assume I was a kpop fan off the bat. If I showed how knolwedgeable I was they'd make me look like I was obsessed or had a problem. So I don't even go out of my way to talk to any of them anymore. Overall the koreans are very cool and nice but this fantasy the korean entertainment is painting is brainwashing people.

Also I've met some pretty f'ucked up people through kpop who are all suffering from some sort of emotional or physical abuse and they live and breathe this genre. They've done sketchy things and crazier things than any other fanclub has.

Ugh yeah, there are many societal and cultural problems within Korean society from all ages, and both genders. It's intriguing how South Korea is a wealthy first world country yet so many Koreans are unhappy. While you have poor, oppressed North Koreans who defected and said everyone in their neighborhood were happy and smiling and laughing all the time. And everyone knew everyone. They had a close knit community in NK while people couldn't give two shits about you in SK, just because you're a stranger. The tale of two cities with completely unexpected results. I love capitalism and abhor communism/socialism, but I sometimes wonder if living in a first world country brings out the worst in people...

You should visit Korea and if you like it and are able to, you should move there! Don't let the toxic, obsessed k-pop fans deter you, or the shallow Koreans you meet. I hear that Korea is easy to live in for foreigners if you just completely accept all the cultural differences and just behave like a native Korean. Easier said than done of course.

I think the thought process for many of the obsessed k-pop fans is that they are unhappy with their life at the moment, so they have k-pop as an outlet for their depression/unhappy life and as their obsession grows, it doesn't fix their real life problems so they come to the conclusion that if they moved to Korea, it will solve all their issues. Of course that's not all of them but I'm sure a good percentage is experiencing that. But probably 90% of the fans just want to live in Korea to get a Korean boyfriend or husband haha.

You mentioned you were ethnic-looking, just out of curiosity, what ethnicity are you?

 

[hyorishthottie]

I went through this phase lol, I understand this obsession, I badly wanted to move to Korea and still feel it sometime but I understand now that Korea is very homogeneous and it might not work out, plus the language barrier, and the pressure whether they will accept foreigner like me or not, I have seen few Koreans in real life, it was nice experience but I didn't get deep with them, I also tried to show like I didn't know anything about Kpop lol so I wouldn't be classified as these stereotypes brainwashed kpop fan girls, I also realized whether its Japanese or Korean, its good to show that you don't know too much about their culture, showing that you know little is better lol, so thats what I do usually, they also judge , or having some sort of judgmental way of thinking.
any way, I think places that have multicultural is better accepting of foreigner like USA(Haven't been there though), kinda off topic, but any way, these Kpop fans once they moved to Korea, they most likely will be shocked, because its not fantasy place like they imagined, they would probably have cultural shock.
lastly, I am someone who has listened to many music from different countries, and Kpop was the only kind of music that made crazily wanting to move to the country itself, lol its weird, I believe in the spell they put in Kpop, probably Korean government want to expand tourism, so this is one of the thing they do.

yeah that's why I can't do it. I can do a lot but I can't be fake with myself or dumb myself down. I just can't hold back cause I'll either forget all that I know or I'll end up getting comfortable or forget to withold what I know which will result in me letting it slip then getting judged. Yeah you are judged right off the bat very judging society. There are somethings about the society and culture I like that is frown upon in America. Like for instance in America just like korea one of the national things that is true is that looks do matter and can get you anywhere but america like it's to be fake and say it doesn't. Americans on the whole will tell you it doesn't but the pressures are real. While in Korea it's the same yet they don't bs with you and it's okay to be vain there or at least above average concerned with your looks. Like if you're someone who looks in the mirror a lot and cares alot about your appearance always prepping and touching up americans for the most part will sham you for it and get annoyed with you. It's not looked upon well. But in Korea it's okay and expected of you to do so you can walk around with a big ass mirror and no one will bother you about it. It's better to do so cause if you don't spot a slip up on yourself the koreans will and they will mention it to you while americans tend to skirt around it sometimes unless they are asses about it or its a friend telling you. I do like that beauty and skin care is celebrated there they are ahead of it's time and america is mega late. but at the same time it all comes from the unhappiness and strict ideals.

Plus I don't mind being alone. I am just an INFP type of person and I love being alone sometimes I enjoy my own company and need a moment to myself to think and review the day, I get drained by too much socializing if it isn't socializing with friends. Most of them don't like to be alone like that it's why koreans always eat together in public even if you don't know them, you sit at the table with them and eat. You'll look like a loser if you eat by yourself like say at subway if you spotted alone and not at a table they will think you are weird. As a forgeiner even if I'm 100% fulent I can't imagine myself just sitting down at the table with them it'd be too awkward for me.

Yeah exactly. I know I'd get culture shock if I just went there right now with no type of prep or at least 1-4 korean native friends to help me around. Yeah I realized that the hard way whether it's koreans or japanese in america or overseas, you have to appear like you don't know and it's expected of you to not know. Which is sorta sad and backwards but the hallyu wave ruined that. I feel like the only way you can get away with knowing it is if you say you are in college for asian studies or plan on doing a career that requires you to know.

Yeah you can't get too deep with them that's the problem. the ones you probs can get deep with will be out of your reach and you'd have to be a youtuber like lala or megan bowen to snag them and she's a mess. Yeah kpop does have a spell I can't leave it 100% alone myself. Once in a while I return back to it.

 

[hyorishthottie]

Ugh yeah, there are many societal and cultural problems within Korean society from all ages, and both genders. It's intriguing how South Korea is a wealthy first world country yet so many Koreans are unhappy. While you have poor, oppressed North Koreans who defected and said everyone in their neighborhood were happy and smiling and laughing all the time. And everyone knew everyone. They had a close knit community in NK while people couldn't give two shits about you in SK, just because you're a stranger. The tale of two cities with completely unexpected results. I love capitalism and abhor communism/socialism, but I sometimes wonder if living in a first world country brings out the worst in people...

You should visit Korea and if you like it and are able to, you should move there! Don't let the toxic, obsessed k-pop fans deter you, or the shallow Koreans you meet. I hear that Korea is easy to live in for foreigners if you just completely accept all the cultural differences and just behave like a native Korean. Easier said than done of course.

I think the thought process for many of the obsessed k-pop fans is that they are unhappy with their life at the moment, so they have k-pop as an outlet for their depression/unhappy life and as their obsession grows, it doesn't fix their real life problems so they come to the conclusion that if they moved to Korea, it will solve all their issues. Of course that's not all of them but I'm sure a good percentage is experiencing that. But probably 90% of the fans just want to live in Korea to get a Korean boyfriend or husband haha.

You mentioned you were ethnic-looking, just out of curiosity, what ethnicity are you?

I'm not like foreign ethnic looking just like if you saw me you'd wonder if I was black, white, or mixed.
African American with Caribbean background. I'm very light skin and could pass for a white woman but my facial features sorta take that away with my nose and lips, etc. I'm at least 6'0 as well so the only good thing I can say is at least my height would be appreicated as a whole in korea. America you have to be pretty and decent looking as a really tall woman. If you're butt ugly and mega tall let alone a bit heavy set it's not a good look. Koreans tend to admire really tall people for some reason but I'd still be feeling like a freak show for a few if I went there lol.

Yes I won't let it stop me but it's a good wake up call to know that korea is just like any other place. You take good with bad.
Yeah that's my thing It'd take me a while to adjust. I can adjust for sure no problem but just getting through the social and emotional aspect of it all. And YES about first world countries you are going to be unhappy on average than in a poor country.

secret is the best place to live in right now in a time like this one arth is the poor, starving, underveloped nations. You won't see any anxiety, depression, bipolar, manic depressive, self esteem, hate, and all these common issues allover like you do in America and Korea. I'm not saying they don't have little issues to be stressed out culture wise like the rest of us, but America and Korea is very complex. If you were to drop everyhting in your life right now and go live in some part of rural china, carrbiean, africa, or live simply like new zeleand or ireland whatever if you can get over the city conditioning - you will improve 100%

like you will save money cause you arent spending it to impress people you dont know to get a head to make a good impression. You arne't worrying about yourself in terms of others cause everyone is on the same level as you (maybe prettier but thats it), there is no elitesm and nobody is out for themselves and being two faced cause its a community that has the old values we as a city have lost. Being kind, looking out for each other, not being sucked into technology, needing validation etc.

I actually envy those people but at the same time it'd take me a while to adjust.

 

[tyrab]

This happens between Xiumin and Sehun I don't know what to make of this but watch from 1:14 to 1:25

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

This happens between Xiumin and Sehun I don't know what to make of this but watch from 1:14 to 1:25

regardless of this video, I know that Sehun is gay, don't know though about Xiumin, but there is others members in EXO as will

 

[tyrab]

regardless of this video, I know that Sehun is gay, don't know though about Xiumin, but there is others members in EXO as will

IKR like this video when Sehun says he likes men the fans in the comments say he is talking about male fans but I'm like no if he talking about male fans he would have said male fans.

 

[hyorishthottie]

IKR like this video when Sehun says he likes men the fans in the comments say he is talking about male fans but I'm like no if he talking about male fans he would have said male fans.

exactly.

Honestly let me tell you something. Idols will either lie or tell the truth. Many idols have told the truth and exposed who they are blantantly on purpose cause they know with how the entire fantasy and imagery is of the industry is on fans they won't ever think about what is presented to them. Korea has an air to it with you can do the most outright thing and everyone will overlook it cause a million set things already in place. it's simple yet hard to explain. Like I'm starting to believe Hyuna really did go on a date with the girl in her instagram post a while ago and this wasn't some friendship date. You say you like men as a man, kiss another man, do all sorts of things and no one will dare to think outside the box or literally take it as you said.

so yeah sehun is gay and he could have simply said male fans. he meant what he said.