No regard...for the desire of women

[Lisa]

You can always politely agree to disagree =)

Yes, your right, It's hard to find words not to offend everyone but my emphasis was on "Try"

Yes, I could, but what does that prove? Anything? Why talk at all if you are gonna say, ya, we will agree to disagree?

Perhaps people do try...and still people are offended?

 

[Lisa]

I just do not get it at times.
Does the world have to be created in the image of one culture?
Are we free to only talk, eat and dress like the master?
We have ancient cultures and ancient traditions and we actually have cultural dress codes that differ.
This should be celebrated.
All flowers should not be red roses.....(desert roses are cool too, just sayin'....blink blink).

Well, I think its ok to say I don’t like how some women dress. If I put up pictures of women in bikinis and said I disagree with this, you and the other muslims would whole heartedly agree. However, I don’t like the burkas and I’m a horrible person. And...islam is not the only thing I talked about in the op, but it is the only thing muslims are focusing on.....

 

[rainerann]

Good,

I meant more than tax laws.

Just hoping for consistency.

Is there something inconsistent that you are seeing or are you just suggesting there is inconsistency because you think you can equalize the argument this way.

Marijuana is already legalized. I dont think we should have a secretary of education at all. I didn’t think I was supposed to list this all out but If all you want to do is call me a hypocrite anyways, have at it.

I’ve been called worse around here already.

 

[Lisa]

I’ve been called worse around here already.

No doubt...

 

[Kung Fu]

Marijuana is already legalized. I dont think we should have a secretary of education at all. I didn’t think I was supposed to list this all out but If all you want to do is call me a hypocrite anyways, have at it.

But by saying what you have within this thread others that's exactly what you are going by the definition of the word. No one has to directly call you a hypocrite because we already know you are one lol.

 

[Serveto]

... covering that is required by law with legal consequences is oppression.

Already, here in the States, many women are arguing that, given that it is not illegal for men to go shirtless, neither should it be illegal for women to expose their bare breasts in public. Is "covering that is required by law" and "with legal consequences" oppression in this case?

It is not illegal for men to go shirtless, but requiring a shirt can be imposed by business ...

Given that, generally speaking, here in the States, a man can mow his summer lawn and drive around town shirtless, to the skin, should a woman be allowed to do the same? If not, why not? If I were to accept the premise that "covering that is required by law with legal consequences is oppression," would I not have to conclude that to require a woman to wear a top, and to arrest her for "indecent exposure" or something similar if she does not, is oppressive? For that matter, if I accept the premise, I am forced to conclude that all laws requiring any clothing are oppressive. Even though I am unconvinced, in theory more than actual practice, I am becoming a radical, nudist libertarian .

 

[yiksmes]

Yes, I could, but what does that prove? Anything? Why talk at all if you are gonna say, ya, we will agree to disagree?

Perhaps people do try...and still people are offended?

If you trying to prove something, but didn't prove anything and instead just offended a whole group of people multiple times,
Why keep trying doing it over and over instead of finding a mutual ground? Or why even talk at all if you know the end result will just a be a quarrel?

Sorry for butting in to all, got to go.

I hope we all find peace so we can fight our true common enemy

 

[Haich]

either you're dishonest or ignorant

All you've done is show me some kids dressing up as their mum. How is this oppressive? It's actually sweet and shows they have a strong bond.

One of the videos say 'niqab baby lol'. Surely you know what lol means...

You claimed that children wear niqab for religious purposes and you've not been able to demonstrate any evidence for this. Show me a verse which commands the covering of kids or women's faces.

Back to researching google it is.

 

[Lurker]

Is there something inconsistent that you are seeing or are you just suggesting there is inconsistency because you think you can equalize the argument this way.

Marijuana is already legalized. I dont think we should have a secretary of education at all. I didn’t think I was supposed to list this all out but If all you want to do is call me a hypocrite anyways, have at it.

I’ve been called worse around here already.

No, I'm not calling you a hypocrite. I just hope that you see the oppression that everyone faces. We can't even feed the homeless in some places.

 

[Lisa]

If you trying to prove something, but didn't prove anything and instead just offended a whole group of people multiple times,
Why keep trying doing it over and over instead of finding a mutual ground? Or why even talk at all if you know the end result will just a be a quarrel?

Sorry for butting in to all, got to go.

I hope we all find peace so we can fight our true common enemy

No, that’s ok, I don’t mind your questions.
Do people always have to find mutual ground? What happens if there is no mutual ground?

Why talk, if you know it will just end in a quarrel? Some things are worth fighting over...don’t ya think?

 

[Kung Fu]

Some things are worth fighting over...don’t ya think?

Why don't you or any other Christian believer who thinks like you come fight me? You know since some things are worth fighting over.

 

[Lurker]

a man can mow his summer lawn and drive around town shirtless, to the skin, should a woman be allowed to do the same?

Yes, they're just boobs.

 

[Lisa]

Why don't you or any other Christian believer who thinks like you come fight me? You know since some things are worth fighting over.

We were talking fighting as in quarreling...sorry you didn’t understand.

 

[Vytas]

Some things are worth fighting over...don’t ya think?

Like here ? In this thread? Lets fight and win? Prove that those woman are oppressed and force them...what?..To admit it? After that, what is next step in our honorable fight?

 

[Kung Fu]

We were talking fighting as in quarreling...sorry I didn’t word it properly.

Fixed it for you. You should be more specific next time sweetheart.

 

[Lisa]

Yes, they're just boobs.

That makes problems, problems that women haven’t wanted. I don’t know that freeing the nipple is going to work out like young women think it will.

 

[Kung Fu]

That makes problems, problems that women haven’t wanted. I don’t know that freeing the nipple is going to work out like young women think it will.

That's oppression.

 

[Lisa]

Fixed it for you. You should be more specific next time sweetheart.

Maybe you should just say you didn’t understand my comment?

 

[Lisa]

That's oppression.

How is it oppression?

 

[Lisa]

Like here ? In this thread? Lets fight and win? Prove that those woman are oppressed and force them...what?..To admit it? After that, what is next step in our honorable fight?

Who says I’m fighting to win a fight? I’m merely giving people another option to think about. That it turns into a battle, is unfortunate, but I think its worth saying.

I think as a women, that they are oppressed, but I can’t make them change what they do, I can say that I disagree and why.

Does there have to be a next step?