rainerann
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I love how you hyperlink so many things. It is very considerate and time consuming for you I’m sure. It is very generous of you to do.I agree. They did not. Again, and though we discussed some flaws of his work, Heinrich Graetz (and others) goes into great, voluminous, at times mind-numbing detail of the history of the "Gaonate" in exile, or diaspora. Following destruction of the Jerusalem Temple, and during the Gaonate, spanning a period of centuries, the so called "Oral Law," which, among other things, was considered a sort of "hedge of protection" against what was considered Christian usurpation and misuse of the Old Testament (to prove Christian claims), was put into written form and became the Talmud, Palestinian and Babylonian. The overall corpus of Jewish literature produced during this time also includes Maimonides' influential Commentary on the Mishneh Torah. Interestingly enough, though the Torah itself is written in Hebrew, of course, Maimonides, given his historical location and circumstances, wrote at least parts of his Commentary in Arabic, a language of intellectuals, Jewish, Christian and Muslim alike, with whom he was in contact and corresponded.
The Pharisees, as the rabbis of normative, Orthodox Judaism, in large part retained judicial and even executive power over the often ghettoized Jews throughout the diaspora (dispersion), until the comparatively recent Haskhala, or so called Jewish Enlightenment, at which time many Jews became secularized, assimilated into Western, especially European culture, and thereby broke rabbinic control. While many Christians opposed Orthodox Jews externally, from the outside, Karaites, who rejected the Talmud, opposed them internally, from within Judaism. The Karaites survive to this day, though their numbers are dwindled to practically nothing.
That doesn't matter: one must still get permission from the ideological vanguards at the Anti-Defamation League to say so .
So yes, what you are saying does demonstrate my point in some respects. There are two very different Jewish cultures. This becomes confusing for people sometimes.
One culture grows from the judgment given to the priest in Malachi. The other represent the lost sheep who are saved and became an integral part of the early church. The connection to these people who were set free is evident in including the Old Testament in our cannon and in many other ways.
Jews and gentiles were fused together as a solid unit. I think a study of English literature shows this. I just don’t know when John Bunyan or even Isaac newton demonstrate the impression that replacement theology ever existed. I use them as examples because they would have been able to read and study scripture while some wouldn’t have been able to do this.
The complexity to this is not often admitted in Jewish historical accounts especially when they are written down in more recent history. The culture has changed so that translating the history that wasn’t written down is not easy to find. There aren’t many books where the hatred some of these people had towards Christians is admitted.
So many of these early writings were very much propaganda in nature and many other things that are true were lost. They were a way to present the Jewish community to the public the way they wanted to be seen.