How To Unite Muslims, Jews And Christians

Zoidberg

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Question: "What is Chrislam?"

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Chrislam is an attempt to syncretize Christianity with Islam. While it began in Nigeria in the 1980s, Chrislamic ideas have spread throughout much of the world. The essential concept of Chrislam is that Christianity and Islam are compatible, that one can be a Christian and a Muslim at the same time. Chrislam is not an actual religion of its own, but a blurring of the differences and distinctions between Christianity and Islam.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.gotquestions.org/amp/Chrislam.html
I mean combining Islam and Christianity sounds like a great idea, but there are so many people in each one. People will fight over their Religion and maybe won't even go to Church. It sounds spectacular, but there are too many red flags.
 

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I mean combining Islam and Christianity sounds like a great idea, but there are so many people in each one. People will fight over their Religion and maybe won't even go to Church. It sounds spectacular, but there are too many red flags.
Here's my view:
If you want to be a Chrislamian, go ahead
If you want to be a Muslim, go ahead
If you want to be a Christian, go ahead
 

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Thank-you. Understood, regarding walls of text.
The word "trinity" appears nowhere in The Bible, however the One-ness of God is made clear.
Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The "I AM" our God [is] one "I AM":

"Come near to Me, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret, From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord GOD has sent Me, and His Spirit."


That's Isaiah 48:16.. Old Testament declaration of our triune God. That the word Trinity is not used seems negligible, when you look to the Hebrew, though (below).

There seems to be a real interest in using the OT as a means to refute the NT, these days. Research has yet to fail, though. Clearly, you have no problem researching, so I'm linking an excerpt from a source addressing verse you posted (link, below):

".. the most direct and important statements in the Old Testament about God's oneness (Deut 6:4) use the unified one [echad] instead of a words that always mean numeric oneness like "yachid" and "bad"."

http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-oneness-unity-yachid-vs-echad.htm


I don't know exactly why this makes sense to some and not to others-- maybe it falls under those he foreknew, he predestined. I'm not privy to that information, though.

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Romans 10:17

Appreciate your commentary.
 
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Muslims. Christians. Buddhists. Jews.

Long ago, the four Religions lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the radical religions attacked.

Only God, master of all four elements, could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished.

A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new God, an elder named Yamato, and although his verses are great, he still has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone.

But I believe Yamato can save the world.

you say yamato, i say your mum.
 
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Of course. No one here was trying to deny the fact that Abraham loved Ishmael dearly, just as he also loved Isaac. Neither is there an attempt being made to dismiss the Torah or Koran, because both were sent from God. God's Plan however, is God's Plan and He causes it to happen as He promises.

Genesis 17:18 And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before Thee!
17:19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac (Laughter): and I will establish My Covenant with him for an Everlasting Covenant, [and] with his seed after him.
17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
17:21 But My Covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
17:22 And He left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham.
(Kofk)

My intention in registering and posting here to this forum, is not to cause any trouble or controversy, but to hopefully help alleviate it; by sharing the information that I was fortunate enough to find, and which has not only helped me understand my own life, but I also know that has helped many others too, so that anyone who wishes to do so, may look into it themselves and consider.

I know its not easy to give up and unlearn long held beliefs. No one wants to rock the boat, right? But in the end, doing so brings a joy and a gladness that was unknown before, as gaining the truth is what ultimately brings us Peace.

I think that if we look then it is not hard to see that controversy has already been introduced (Add: - by powerful people within the religious organisations, long ago and it still continues to this day).

My suggestion for others, would therefore be to please make time to read/study the "little book" (see Rev. 10) entitled "The Way home or face The Fire" - By JAH, in which all of this is explained in detail, and to do so ASAP. Then, after having read and digested its contents, please consider carefully what it has to say. The book can be downloaded as a free PDF, at: http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm

May God/Allah Bless, and may His Peace be upon you and within you.

Can I tell you something?
in the middle ages, muslim alims didn't have 1 particular interpretation of the Quran.
it was common for someone to have multiple interpretations....some even had as many as 20 different interpretations and by that i mean for each single verse

why would they do that?
it was about being open to understanding something from multiple perspectives
the when, what, why, how, if, but, could have, should have, perhaps, if not, if then
they had knowledge of metaphysics (inc numerology, astrology), psychology.
back then, such men would not even write down their interpretations because they felt shame to potentially get it so wrong.

however for what WAS written in texts, you only have to look at examples like the lost libraries of timbuktu, im talking treasure troves of information....beyond comprehension
in this particular case and many more like it, african people actively buried or destroyed their material because white men wanted it...and much of it was confiscated.

we're sat here posting some stuff on a forum, you're linking us to websites


BUT
i swear to you, most of what ive ever learnt was learnt through careful reading of texts from the middle ages esp sufi material, but it extends to hindu, jewish, christian knowledge too.
Much of this knowledge was made available in the modern era through translations.
We're very lucky to live in the age of information.
Still, what we actually are doing is interpreting translated interpretations
do you get this?

For me, I believe in the Quran but the Quran tells me to believe in the Torah, Psalms and Gospel. so I accept that and don't care what people have to say.
i accept that there is a lot i don't know, so it's better to accept the basic outlines and then attempt to understand the rest according to those outlines

many muslims here say the bible is altered/corrupt
i don't because that contradicts the Quran
many say christians follow a pauline doctrine and not Jesus
I don't because that too potentially contradicts the Quran
many of the arguments ive put out on here revolved around these topics.

the reason why i won't read what you tell me to is because what little i read was a load of shite
for example 'if you pray in the mosque, you're a kafir'
the guy who wrote that has a screw loose.
 
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Muslims. Christians. Buddhists. Jews.

Long ago, the four Religions lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the radical religions attacked.

Only God, master of all four elements, could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished.

A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new God, an elder named Yamato, and although his verses are great, he still has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone.

But I believe Yamato can save the world.
when christianity was formed
jews persecuted them
then the christians persecuted jews
then islam came and they had a threeway
meanwhile buddhists in sindh were persecuted by hindus and so they allied with muslim invaders who persecuted hindus
then sikhism was born and hindus sikhs and muslims had a threeway
now the buddhists are persecuting muslims
they're going to get fucked, doesn't matter when or how, it's going to happen because in all honesty muslims aren't going to forget/
what goes around comes around.

what they've done in burma is the worst form of cowardice..
muslims have never bothered buddhists before, that was the only exception, yet they're crying about how muslims are the aggressor whilst singing to the tune of western style arguments even though the whole 'problem' occured because of britain's colonial policies.

As for God

 

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"Come near to Me, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret, From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord GOD has sent Me, and His Spirit."

That's Isaiah 48:16.. Old Testament declaration of our triune God. That the word Trinity is not used seems negligible, when you look to the Hebrew, though (below).

There seems to be a real interest in using the OT as a means to refute the NT, these days. Research has yet to fail, though. Clearly, you have no problem researching, so I'm linking an excerpt from a source addressing verse you posted (link, below):

".. the most direct and important statements in the Old Testament about God's oneness (Deut 6:4) use the unified one [echad] instead of a words that always mean numeric oneness like "yachid" and "bad"."

http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-oneness-unity-yachid-vs-echad.htm


I don't know exactly why this makes sense to some and not to others-- maybe it falls under those he foreknew, he predestined. I'm not privy to that information, though.

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Romans 10:17

Appreciate your commentary.
Thank you for your reply, and it is likewise appreciated.

Personally, I don't believe that the NT has to be refuted if one disagrees with the explanation found in the trinity/triune doctrine.
But rather that the trinity/triune doctrine is due to a misinterpretation and misunderstanding of the actual NT, that came about by people within the church who either didn't understand it (or had ulterior motives) and that then gets passed onto the members of the congregation.

Its not a subject I'm all that keen to try and dive into, though. I've tried it in the past, but it is sensitive and not a nice topic to get pulled into arguing about with others.

I had questions about it for many years, and one of the things that helped me was to study the Gospel of John, and then also compare, with the other things Christ said in the other Gospels. It took some time, but it is worth it and turned out to be an absolutely awesome study into the Word of God. That much, I will gladly say and would be willing to recommend to anyone. :)

God Bless!
 

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Really? No, it is not. Read the last bit of Revelation 17:8:

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the Bottomless Pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were NOT written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the Bottomless Pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were NOT written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

The angel is now speaking of the future generation who witness this event... As I said..read carefully
 

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Listen, I don't know what you're going on about but you keep saying that the only form of unity that humans can have is under the NWO and I'm saying that I disagree. I think that if people are going to fight the NWO then one of the biggest things they need to do is unify against the common enemy. Unity can be defined as: a condition of harmony, I don't see that as a bad thing if humans worked together and got along more. It has nothing to do with religion, I'm certainly not an advocate for combining all the religions and removing the freedom of people to worship what they want.

Lmao all I said was "that's not what unity means" cause you have a weird idea of that word. The NWO is basically the opposite of what unity really is.
It seems you are unaware about what this thread is then, it's about religious unity...

People will never fight NWO...
No weird ideas just staying on topic, but im happy you are laughing you ass off...
 

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Thank you for your reply, and it is likewise appreciated.

Personally, I don't believe that the NT has to be refuted if one disagrees with the explanation found in the trinity/triune doctrine.
But rather that the trinity/triune doctrine is due to a misinterpretation and misunderstanding of the actual NT, that came about by people within the church who either didn't understand it (or had ulterior motives) and that then gets passed onto the members of the congregation.

Its not a subject I'm all that keen to try and dive into, though. I've tried it in the past, but it is sensitive and not a nice topic to get pulled into arguing about with others.

I had questions about it for many years, and one of the things that helped me was to study the Gospel of John, and then also compare, with the other things Christ said in the other Gospels. It took some time, but it is worth it and turned out to be an absolutely awesome study into the Word of God. That much, I will gladly say and would be willing to recommend to anyone. :)

God Bless!
Fair enough.
One question and we'll leave it alone. Do you believe that Christ is God, incarnate?
 

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So many of us (not all) agree that the RCC is the great whore that revelation speaks about, and seeing his recent going around to every religious group's leaders in the past few years and trying to unite us all scares me, Pope Francis wants to establish the one world religion. So we can all just comfortably fall in line with the New world order and be their slaves - - No thank you!
 
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So many of us (not all) agree that the RCC is the great whore that revelation speaks about, and seeing his recent going around to every religious group's leaders in the past few years and trying to unite us all scares me, Pope Francis wants to establish the one world religion. So we can all just comfortably fall in line with the New world order and be their slaves - - No thank you!
I won't lie to you, it actually deeply troubles me when christians continuously say this one. Do I always end up responding. I'm not defending the RCC but

here's the thing
Martin Luther was the first to go public, stand out and specifically refer to the RCC as both the whore AND the anti-christ inc through imagery.
back then, christians were in an obvious dark age and that's mostly because the RCC withheld the bible (ie only allowed the latin version).

The problem is, ML obviously couldn't be correct, the whore and anti-christ are not only seperate things but the anti-christ will destroy the whore yet ML didn't really care. He was emotionally charged.

You people, are protestants and anti-RCC so all you really did was go off the back of ML's perspectives.

There is no sound, credible bible based explanation on why the RCC is the whore.
you can't base it off assumptions like
'The RCC wants to establish a world religion, unite with other religions, therefore whore'
that isn't valid evidence, since lots of systems out there do the same inc lots of christians from various denominations.

Then you types come out and say things like 'the RCC priests wear purple and gold' etc
but I discovered these are the colours of priesthood and the holy tabernacle by default in the OT anyway. So wearing the colours doesn't make them the whore. Rather the whore wearing the colours symbolises her abusing/using symbols of religion for her deceitful purpose.


Can you honestly explain to me why the score of evidences that connect the whore prophecy with the jewish leaders of the world today?
i have been into this so many times..
why is this topic the specific one every single christian ive spoken to about, has directly ignored me and refused to flipping answer each point?

when people challenge me, i answer in depth or to the best of my ability most of the time.
I don't ignore anything.
Maybe to me, im just very passionate about religion in general?
i love to study religion, metaphysics, history and politics.

answer me
in Revelation it tells us the whore killed the prophets and saints. Jesus specifically said this about the jewish elite in his time.
which prophet did the RCC kill?
The whore is responsible for ALL the death in the world in Revelation...the RCC clearly isn't causing war throughout the world today or causing economic disparity...the jewish globalist bankers actually and played both sides of the world wars and the cold war too. For example after they dismantled the soviet union...russia's assets were directly gifted to a cabal of jewish men.
wtf?
the bolsheviks were jewish too.
they just raped russia.
The RCC had no role in that..the biggest massacres ever occurred through communism.
God specifically referred to the jewish nation as an adulterness and whore, various times
the babylon connection is foretold in Zechariah 5
in this same chapter it says a curse goes out to the one who swears falsely and the one who takes the pledge, a direct reference to money lending system..which came from babylon and was adopted by jews.


Also and this is actually really important but we know the Beast=legs of iron in Daniel 2.
Then the feet of iron and clay, mark the latter end times part of the beast system, the anti-christ version.
So we know..this is Rome.
The feet of iron and clay being the end times reappearance of Rome, clearly started coming true through the rise of colonialism
but guess what?
the most successful colonialists were Britain, France and Germany...
they were not catholic.
in fact the colonial era began after europe began to split away from the RCC, so in effect the RCC kept the beast system at bay as long as it lasted
the moment europe quit the RCC, they went to war against the spanish/holy roman empire. In this process they did something the RCC had banned, they important jews and gave them permission to practice usury and used that wealth to establish their navy, this enabled them to travel and trade with the ottomons and very quickly led to...colonialism, the rise of the end times beast.
the jews have been bankrolling all of these expansions since and gradually gained power and control over colonial nations.


Revelation 17
6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

the RCC never came close to killing your type of christians in the way the bolshevik (jewish) revolution in russia.

15 Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.

this literally fits with what ive said.....
the age of colonialism and the modern age of capitalism etc.
the RCC doesn't have that power, the jews do.

2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”

it isn't the RCC brainwashing the world through music, movies, tv, news and porn, is it?
it isn't the RCC who the worlds 'kings' have committed adultery with...
it's akin to how any british or american leader MUST explicitly declare his love and support of Israel.

The kings of the earth committed adultery with her,
and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”


RCC or jews?
think money and political power
tis not the RCC

basically the paper money system is backed by pledges/loans
Zechariah 5
3 And he said to me, “This is the curse that is going out over the whole land; for according to what it says on one side, every thief will be banished, and according to what it says on the other, everyone who swears falsely will be banished. 4 The Lord Almighty declares, ‘I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of anyone who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in that house and destroy it completely, both its timbers and its stones.’”

Then the angel who was speaking to me came forward and said to me, “Look up and see what is appearing.”
6 I asked, “What is it?”
He replied, “It is a basket.” And he added, “This is the iniquityb]">[b] of the people throughout the land.”

it is talking about the jewish nation
10 “Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking to me.
11 He replied, “To the country of Babyloniac]">[c] to build a house for it. When the house is ready, the basket will be set there in its place.”


jews
babylon
jews
babylon

frigging get that in your skull


so let's explore the babylon theme in the bible (you know, that book none of you seem to pay attention to).

The fall of mystery babylon in Revelation 17/18, is connected with the fall of ancient babylon as it was foretold in habakkuk 2
Habakkuk 2
“‘Woe to him who piles up stolen goods
and makes himself wealthy by extortion!
How long must this go on?’
7 Will not your creditors suddenly arise?
Will they not wake up and make you tremble?
Then you will become their prey.
8 Because you have plundered many nations,
the peoples who are left will plunder you.
For you have shed human blood;
you have destroyed lands and cities and everyone in them.


9 “Woe to him who builds his house by unjust gain,
setting his nest on high
to escape the clutches of ruin!
10 You have plotted the ruin of many peoples,
shaming your own house and forfeiting your life.
11 The stones of the wall will cry out,
and the beams of the woodwork will echo it.

12 “Woe to him who builds a city with bloodshed
and establishes a town by injustice!
13 Has not the Lord Almighty determined
that the people’s labor is only fuel for the fire,
that the nations exhaust themselves for nothing?

15 “Woe to him who gives drink to his neighbors,
pouring it from the wineskin till they are drunk,
so that he can gaze on their naked bodies!

For you have shed human blood;
you have destroyed lands and cities and everyone in them. 18 “Of what value is an idol carved by a craftsman?
Or an image that teaches lies?
For the one who makes it trusts in his own creation;
he makes idols that cannot speak.
19 Woe to him who says to wood, ‘Come to life!’
Or to lifeless stone, ‘Wake up!’
Can it give guidance?


the same themes are contained here
so Zech 5 (about the jews)
Habakkuk 3 (about babylon)


but no...it's clearly about the jews since in Jeremiah 2 and 3 we're told


They say to wood, ‘You are my father,’
and to stone, ‘You gave me birth.’

She has gone up on every high hill and under every spreading tree and has committed adultery there.

Because Israel’s immorality mattered so little to her, she defiled the land and committed adultery with stone and wood. 10 In spite of all this, her unfaithful sister Judah did not return to me with all her heart, but only in pretense,” declares the Lord.
 

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Ok @AspiringSoul let's try...

I am writing exams this Wednesday, and I have been wanting to make a thread exposing the RCC for what she truly is, but this is a really long post and I cannot now spend 3 hours typing everything up as I just do not have the time. So bear with me please, I will give you an answer after my exams...
 

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Ok @AspiringSoul let's try...

I am writing exams this Wednesday, and I have been wanting to make a thread exposing the RCC for what she truly is, but this is a really long post and I cannot now spend 3 hours typing everything up as I just do not have the time. So bear with me please, I will give you an answer after my exams...
What is the "RCC"?
 
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