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American voters have a clear choice-
1- Vote Kamala if they want to keep supplying Israel with cash and bombs.
2- Vote Kamala if they want Iran's nuclear program to be allowed to continue.
2- Vote Kamala if they want her to keep supplying Ukraine with cash and weapons.
4- Vote Kamala to continue having an open southern border.

5- Vote Tump whose support for Israel is cooling off.
6- Vote Trump who'll re-introduce his ban on Iran's nuclear program.
7- Vote Trump who's pledged not to give Ukraine a penny more.
8- Vote Trump to seal the southern border.
 
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American voters have a clear choice-
1- Vote Kamala if they want to keep supplying Israel with cash and bombs.
2- Vote Kamala if they want Iran's nuclear program to be allowed to continue.
2- Vote Kamala if they want her to keep supplying Ukraine with cash and weapons.
4- Vote Kamala to continue having an open southern border.

3- Vote Tump whose support for Israel is cooling off.
4- Vote Trump who'll re-introduce his ban on Iran's nuclear program.
5- Vote Trump who's pledged not to give Ukraine a penny more.
6- Vote Trump to seal the southern border.
Just stop it!

“I will work with you to make sure Israel is with us for thousands of years,” the ex-president said during his satellite address to the Republican Jewish Coalition’s annual conference on Thursday in Las Vegas.

-Donald Trump-

Former President Trump told Jewish Republicans in Nevada that “Israel is gone” if Vice President Harris wins the 2024 presidential election.


 

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Former President Trump told Jewish Republicans in Nevada that “Israel is gone” if Vice President Harris wins...
Yup, because her and her Democrat cronies are quite happy to let Iran's nuke bomb program continue..:)-

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More signs of faction fights. This article provoked thought in my mind

think the october surprise might be something to do with
joe all to get kh in the seat ahead of time
idk have to wait and See
Before the DNC, i actually thought there was a possibility that they might play that card by invoking the 25th amendment but now, i don't think so. If incapacitating Joe is the october surprise, then it would be a guarantee that there won't be an election. Again, we'll have to wait and see
 

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Why would I want this when there’s like a 15 percent chance that the your side wins and you start you identitarian massacres of all non whites?

Another US civil war would be the worst war conflict in world history and would almost guarantee the end of civilization as we know it, why do you think I want this?

I may be anarcho-sympathetic but I’m not revolutionary, the changes necessary to save our world will be done through hollowing out the institutions of power while building parallel institutions to one day render the state useless but a civil war may very well lead to worldwide nazism or extinction/collapse of civilization the best case scenario in a civil war is free pockets of autonomous zones as in Rojava but the best scenario still leaves millions dead

I’m not the one dreaming of a day of judgement and retribution for my enemies I leave that to the Christians, Muslims, zionists and Nazis.
In your own words, you agreed with everything that Max Azzarello said and found in him a kindred spirit (the guy who immolated himself during Trump's trial).

That said, i think people can see and feel that the country is at a crossroads...to say nothing of the giant chasm between gov't and the average person. One road is already paved and leads to a technocratic world gov't and the other might have a mixture of that technocracy and some type of gov't that people form for themselves but neither destination promises to be painless and it remains to be seen how much pain people will be able to put up with. There are interesting thoughts out there on how people imagine things might play out...
A comment to this article
A Catholic priest e-mails overnight:
How do we know that there is a ready-to-hand and authentic replacement for a liberal order that has descended into a left-wing ill-liberal order? Wouldn’t the centuries long run up to the descent mean that any authentic vision would find itself to be a small and marginalized minority? Wouldn’t it be historically and sociologically more likely that the strongest opposition would come from a right-wing ill-liberal order that was a type of mirror image of the left-wing?

As I used to say in the 80s to orthodox seminarians who longed for the replacement of the liberals with “law and order” conservatives: “I’m too Irish to be for ‘law and order’ — I want to know whose law and whose order.” I called it trading the 70s for the 40s, and declared I wasn’t keen to live under either regime. Thing is, there’s no guarantee we’re going to like what comes next and there may as a matter of fact be no way at this point to avoid whatever it is.

I think we should consider that the collapse of the liberal order in the West could prove long and ugly, with little influence coming from right believing folks for many, many years–if not generations.
Yes. I am sure I would prefer integralism to whatever we are likely to get if liberal democracy falls. We will likely get Caesarism of either the Left or the Right. I see no reason to believe that the Catholic Church would be part of this. But maybe I’m wrong. When Vladimir Putin took over from the ruins left by Boris Yeltsin and the catastrophe of the 1990s in Russia, he knew that he needed some kind of legitimating authority, so he began to rehabilitate the Orthodox Church in public life. It was a wise thing for him to do, strictly speaking from a political perspective. Should Continental European countries undergo a similar catastrophe, it would make sense for whatever political order emerges from the aftermath to do the same thing with Catholicism.

The United States, however, is an historically Protestant nation. My guess is that if a right-wing Caesar emerged, he would look something like Gen. Michael Flynn: a hard nationalist authoritarian with at least a veneer of Christianity. Unlike much of Europe, we simply don’t have the “bones,” so to speak, to support Catholic integralism in this country.

Personally, i think that when MSM talks about civil war 2.0, they really are referring to the scenario where different factions will be fighting to save the republic or fighting to walk away. (Sidenote: in the tv show Revolution, after the country fell apart because of a blackout, a group of rebels emerged who wanted to restore the United States.). Essentially, there is going to be a fight over which direction the country takes....TPTB already have a head start by putting chips in peoples' brains.
 

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More signs of faction fights. This article provoked thought in my mind


Before the DNC, i actually thought there was a possibility that they might play that card by invoking the 25th amendment but now, i don't think so. If incapacitating Joe is the october surprise, then it would be a guarantee that there won't be an election. Again, we'll have to wait and see
that is the surprise if they plan to go that route,no election
I was thinking more along the lines of joe dying or something else
like he's incriminated in hunters crap?who Knows We'll See soon enough
 

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that is the surprise if they plan to go that route,no election
I was thinking more along the lines of joe dying or something else
like he's incriminated in hunters crap?who Knows We'll See soon enough
If "they" have to fix it for Harris by killing off Joe before November then it can only mean there won't be an election because why "kill" Joe then invoke the 25th to make her president if you are sure you are going to win in November?

5 days ago...
Kamala Harris should be president of the United States. I don’t mean she should be elected in November, I mean she should be taking the oath of office this afternoon, because Joe Biden has demonstrated, once again, that he is our national elderly grandfather, rambling in semi-coherence, who needs to be in a rest home, not being propped up as our commander in chief for the next five months.
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moogs debate thoughts:

harris: pulled on the emotional heartstrings of the viewers with flowery kumbaya language. lots of appeal to women voters and emphasized abortion rights. anyone thinking critically did not hear any plan for anything-- simply what she wants to do and how great she wants to make things.

trump: i thought he was on the defensive most of the time, trying to correct his presidential record, according to kamala. he sounded and looked good and made some good points, but missed two key comments: one, asking kamala how she tell the people biden was as sharp as a tack when everyone saw what a vegetable he was during the first debate and two, stating that she has no plan at all for the next four years.
minor points included her administrations attack on crypto and his full support of it, and her rhetoric against free speech. both should have been passingly mentioned.
kamala mentioned funding or government money to some people, and trump shouldve said, "where is that money coming from? other taxpayers?"

who won? i think trump won simply because he said something like, "you had 3.5 years to make things better and you STILL havent done it." i thought harris did a far better job than i thought she would. her voice is absolutely awful-- i can barely stand that nasally tone of hers.

harris gained the most with her lighter-than-air false promises. that appeals to the general moronic voters. will she gain voters? i dont think so, but the general population has a little better opinion of her speaking ability.
 

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you and i are both too slanted to really know. independents (if there are any around) could gauge the debate better.
Honestly Moog fair point.


I don’t think this is a win for Trump electorally speaking, but no matter how well Harris did…well we’re gonna see if the public is buying what she’s selling.

It’s gonna be a toss up

the corporations saddled Biden with inflation and high prices and it’s hard to get out from that. Prior to him dropping out I said they were doing to him exactly what they did to Carter.

hope all is well with you man no m getting too old to harbor all this anger and hatred

I should join a monastery somewhere
 

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I don’t think this is a win for Trump electorally speaking, but no matter how well Harris did…well we’re gonna see if the public is buying what she’s selling.

It’s gonna be a toss up

the corporations saddled Biden with inflation and high prices and it’s hard to get out from that. Prior to him dropping out I said they were doing to him exactly what they did to Carter.

hope all is well with you man no m getting too old to harbor all this anger and hatred

I should join a monastery somewhere
harris has no platform! thats her problem. shes tied in with bidens economic downturn, and thats killing her chances. over 20 bucks for a pizza? thats crazy. i bought a bag of honeycrisp apples-- it was 10 bucks a bag. anyone walking into the supermarket sees this. if she offered a plan to get out from this, she has a chance.

im doing well; thank you. i hope you are too. good-- refocus the anger towards a creative outlet or something positive, at least. youre free to hate me, but dont let it consume you. life is short. give vipassana a go. theres one in elbert. maybe its near you.
 

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harris has no platform! thats her problem. shes tied in with bidens economic downturn, and thats killing her chances. over 20 bucks for a pizza? thats crazy. i bought a bag of honeycrisp apples-- it was 10 bucks a bag. anyone walking into the supermarket sees this. if she offered a plan to get out from this, she has a chance.

im doing well; thank you. i hope you are too. good-- refocus the anger towards a creative outlet or something positive, at least. youre free to hate me, but dont let it consume you. life is short. give vipassana a go. theres one in elbert. maybe its near you.
Inflation is too complex for the average voter to understand, it is coming down ( just like it was going down under Carter it just takes a while to be felt and Reagan kept on Jimmy’s FED chairman and policies ) and as we’d heard in the Kroger-Albertsons hearings a lot of that’s just corporate sabotage of the democrats.

Regardless it’s a hard perception to beat.
I don’t hate you actually I think you hav dangerous ideas but you are funny and intelligent fwiw

I still hate light seeker thiugh

butbive been reading a lot of Seneca and Marcus to try and let it go it’s unhealthy and exhausting
 

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I wonder what all this means and whether it portends anything. I have no opinion it so maybe others can offer theirs. Here's Tucker Carlson's thoughts:

In an election cycle that has already made for strange political bedfellows - a Kennedy and a former DNC Vice Chair are openly supporting Donald Trump - the strangeness was amplified by news over the weekend Bush VP Dick Cheney will be supporting Kamala Harris. Tucker Carlson was quick to point out that this shouldn’t really surprise anyone, because we are witnessing a political re-alignment where the old lines of demarcation between Democrats and Republicans are being swept away and replaced by a delineating question of “are you a globalist, or a nationalist?” Source


 

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If "they" have to fix it for Harris by killing off Joe before November then it can only mean there won't be an election because why "kill" Joe then invoke the 25th to make her president if you are sure you are going to win in November?

5 days ago...
Kamala Harris should be president of the United States. I don’t mean she should be elected in November, I mean she should be taking the oath of office this afternoon, because Joe Biden has demonstrated, once again, that he is our national elderly grandfather, rambling in semi-coherence, who needs to be in a rest home, not being propped up as our commander in chief for the next five months.
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the whole worlds a stage and We're watching the show
there is no red vs blue,left vs right etc... amognst these things,these evils pretend
to be opposing all in order to keep Us divided always
the only side is Us(Good)against them(evil)

meanwhile behind the scenes they're family/friends etc..the "election"is nothing
more than a selection they have already made
"democracy"is the illusion of choice, in reality it's a two choice no choice system
example
Ya dont need to be dexav but if Your not then Ya can't do abc
it's the same game rinsed and repeated for whatever agenda is being pushed
(I Hope that makes sense)

tptb are only talking and throwing out the option of the 25th to make it again
seem like a choice but in reality it was always planned to go this way
I dont Believe We're gonna See an "election",this year is not gonna be the same
as every other
tptb are in the final stretch(last 5yrs)and have accelerated their plans

We will have two moons,who Knows what kinda crazy thats gonna unleash lol

they will wait til the last minute(surprise)to cause the most chaos amongst Us
Ya can See them building the divides/anger etc.. all around Us and all it's gonna
take is one good push to set it off

really who do We(the 99%)turn on when something goes wrong in the system,
each other,while We start another "civil war"and kill each other
tptb move forward unhindered

We are being reset into a world none of Us alive today have Seen or lived

Ya cannot rebuild something back,without stripping it to the ground(foundation)
first
they are cutting Our numbers right now so after that rebuild the Peoples that
Know the Truth of what happened are dead or are easier to round up and kill

while We're all playing by the systems rules and allowing that system thinking
programming to keep Us going at each other over w/e designed divides
that new world they speak about will be brought in

We,like tptb have a very small window in which We have the opportunity to take
Our World back

thats only if We set aside all that programming,come together as one and take it back
or We can stay as We are,arguing over w/e shallow designed divide tptb throw at Us and
allow for them to bring in their vision of a world

that is a real choice that is Ours to make
 
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