Really sad that you have been taught that......someone is misinterpreting your bible.
Palestine was a settled land with cities and villages and Muslims, Jews and Christians lived together as neighbours.
DR: I am unfamiliar with the bible but have brought you the words of Ahmed Deedat to question the conclusions that have been drawn by some Christian sects in support of Israel. As a believer I find it difficult to believe that some practising Christians would excuse human rights violations and support tyranny and oppression.
Our Creator is merciful
BUT HE IS ALSO JUST.
From Deedat's book:
"so I said, "I am prepared to concede that God did make such a promise as - "I will give unto thee and to thy seed after thee, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession." (As if Palestine was my father's property).
ABRAHAM'S SEE (Who would in heritage the promise land)
Conceding the point that the prophecy in question was authoritative, I asked, "Who is the seed of Abraham?" Without the slightest hesitation Mr. Beare replied, "We, the Jews!" I said,
"No doubt, you are the sons and seed of Abraham, but are you the only seed? No less than in twelve places, in the first Book of the Bible, Ishmael the progenitor of the Arabs is spoken of as the son and seed oh Abraham.
1. And Hagar bore Abram (changed to Abraham by God in Genesis
17:5) a son: and Abram called his SON'S name, whom Hagar bore,
Ishmael.
Bible (Genesis 16:15)
2. And Abraham took Ishmael, his SON...
Bible (Genesis 17:23)
3. And Ishmael, his SON, was thirteen years old, when he was Circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
Bible (Genesis 17:25)
4. In the very same day was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael, his SON.
Bible (Genesis 17:26)
5. And his (Abraham) SONS Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of
Machpelah, in the field of Ephron...
Bible (Genesis 25:9)
But Al-Qur`an is crying > [5:66-67] And if the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) had believed and been righteous, We would surely have removed from them their evils and We would surely have admitted them into Gardens of Bliss. And if they had observed the Torah and the Gospel and what has been now sent down to them from their Lord, they would, surely, have eaten of good things from above them and from under their feet. Among them are a people who are moderate; but many of them — evil indeed is that which they do. [5:71] Surely, Allah took a covenant from the children of Israel, and sent Messengers to them(Jews). But every time there came to them a Messenger (Moses, Jesus) with what their hearts desired not, they treated some as liars, and some they sought to kill.
Now these are the generations of Ishmael, Abraham's SON,
whom Hagar the Egyptian.... Bible (Genesis 25:12)
If the Lord God, disdained not to recognise Ishmael as the SON and SEED of Abraham in the
Torah, who are we to deny him his patrimony. Indeed, God will not allow the rights of the
"first-born" to be jeopardised even if the child is the offspring of a hated wife (Deuteronomy
21:16).
Why should not the Children of Ishmael (the Arabs) and the Children of Isaac (the Jews) live in peace and harmony and enjoy the blessings of God together in the land of promise?
IS MIGHT RIGHT?
Theoretically my employer was prepared to concede the points, but prejudices die hard. He retorted, "Deedat, Palestine belonged to us, we ruled it under David and Solomon!" I said,
"Sir, if having ruled a territory once by force of arms, entitles you to repossess it, then we
Muslims, if we had the power, would equally be justified to reconquer Spain. We Muslims ruled that country for almost eight hundred years. A longer period of time than the Jews ever ruled parts of Palestine! The only thing really worth seeing in Spain are the magnificent gardens and fountains, and monumental buildings the Muslims left behind. Does that entitle the Muslims to recolonise Spain?"
"And on the same basis, would the Dutch be entitled to invade Indonesia, because their ancestors ruled it for three centuries? Or, could the Italians lay claim to Britain because the Romans ruled it at one stage under Caesar?"
"No!" said Mr. Beare, "Those were foreign conquests, but Palestine is our Motherland, we have only taken back what we have been wrongfully dispossessed." "I beg your pardon," I said, "there is a grave historical oversight on your part here. The Jews also, under Joshua, invaded Palestine over three thousand years ago and conquered the inhabitants of the land.
It was no virgin territory ready to be betrothed. You conquered thirty kingdoms in as many days (Joshua 12:24). Twelve united tribes of Israel against each divided village state, with their little village chief whom you called "kings!" So you knocked over the Amorites, the Edomites, the Philistines, the Moabites, the Hittites and other too numerous to mention. You destroyed them utterly and they came back for more. And again you "destroyed them utterly," and yet they were there!"
CRY WITH RODINSON
With all the destruction of past, present and future for Israel there is a perpetual spectre of war. Without friendly co-operation with the Arabs there can be no solution to the Jewish problem in Palestine. Morally and ethically the Jews have no right to Palestine.” Said Rodinson, an elite Jew says in his book - "Israel and the Arabs"
And they (Jews) utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
Bible (Joshua 6:21)
"BUT FOR ONE THING, THEY (the Israelis) CANNOT BE SAID TO HAVE A HISTORIC RIGHT
TO A PIECE OF TERRITORY BECAUSE SOME OF THEIR ANCESTORS SUPPOSEDLY
INHABITED IT TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO. FOR ANOTHER, THEY OUGHT TO RECOGNIZE
THAT THEY HAVE DONE A CONSIDERABLE WRONG TO ANOTHER PEOPLE, IN DEPRIVING THEM OF RIGHTS AT LEAST AS GREAT AS THEIR OWN.
THE BITTERNESS FELT BY THE PEOPLE TO WHOM THIS WRONG WAS DONE STILL
PERSISTS, AND AS LONG AS IT DOES, THE RIGHTS OF THE ISRAELIS WILL REMAIN
PURELY HYPOTHETICAL - THEY CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THE ARABS WILL ONE DAY
RECOGNIZE AND ACCEPT THEM. ONLY THEN WILL THEIR RIGHTS BECOME
REAL."
THE ARABS, TOO, HAVE RIGHTS. IN MANY RESPECTS, THEY MAY JUSTIFIABLY BE HELD TO
BE GREATER THAN ISRAELIS'. THE ARABS OF PALESTINE HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS OVER
PALESTINE TERRITORY AS THE FRENCH EXERCISE IN FRANCE AND THE ENGLISH IN
ENGLAND. THESE RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION ON THEIR
PART.
THE WRONG DONE TO THE ARABS BY THE ISRAELIS IS VERY REAL."
With all the admissions, confessions and mortifications, the Jew persists - WE POSSESS
PALESTINE, WE KEEP PALESTINE! Possession is nine-tenth of the law. This was the attitude of my employer too. So, I asked, "How did you (meaning the Jews) possess it?" By force of arms? Then by force of arms the Arabs have every right to seek to repossess their
homeland."
Gilad Atzmon writes about the puppetry as well. They use tactics such as blackmailing the politician or threatening their family to get their way just like with the congress.
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