Mr.Grieves
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That was my motivation for persisting even after several weeks of prayer in vain. As I've asked before, what ARE the conditions necessary to make contact with the creator?Umm yea, then you probably approached the situation with the wrong intent if your motivating factor was to satisfy/not disappoint family and friends...
Here's the interaction, with the video of the feather and bowling ball redacted.Cant say I remember saying feathers have no weight and if I said they float, I meant in reality (not a vacuum) and that they float on its way down.
They have an excuse for everything but yall call them "proofs" just as gravity which can hold down billions of tons of water, but has problem with feathers/pieces of paper that get to float around without being held to the ground by the vary same force that can hold down trucks weighing TONS. Its like saying a person can bench 300 lbs, but not 10 lol. But that is completely legitimate because man tells you it is. While to me, I rather think for MYSELF.
Ughhhh. As I explained to someone else in another thread on this forum who was questioning the reality of Gravity, the reason why feathers/plastic bags/pieces of paper float around on the air is because air is a substance, just like water, and substances generate resistance. In the absence of air, as in a complete vacuum a feather falls as fast as a bowling ball, or a 300 ton truck, as a result of the force of gravity. Here's a video proving that which I'm sure you'll claim is fake CG. Upon seeing this, the other person questioning gravity realized their mistake and learned something important. Cant imagine that happening here.
Dude, as I just showed/explained to you, offering actual proofs which you're blatantly ignoring, gravity DOES NOT 'have trouble with feathers'. Feathers, bowling balls, 300 ton trucks, it doesn't matter; in a vacuum, all respond to gravity in exactly the same way and fall at exactly the same speed. Substances like air and water act as obstructions however, and can even provide buoyancy and lift when interacting with other substances/different conditions, which allow birds to fly, boats to float, balloons to rise, etc. A bird can fly through the air in a similar way to how a person or a fish can swim through the sea. A hot air or helium balloon can rise on the air in a similar way to how a submarine rises and submerges. Take away the water however, and the submarine just lies there. Take away the air, and the bird can't fly. Without substances like air and water and their properties, nothing floats, nothing flies, and any effort to leave the ground is answered by the traditional pull of gravity which you yourself can experience right now through experimentation: just jump.
I don't see how anyone who's taken physics at any level could take your argument seriously.Im not sure how explaining what goes on in a vacuum, when we dont live in a vacuum is relevant. Because again, the force of gravity (right?) is what holds the trillions of tons of water (or whatever the weight is) to the ground. If we had the ability to throw a 20 ton truck in the air, the belief you hold is that gravity would pull it straight to the ground. Yet with feathers, thats not the case. Address THAT, and not what happens in a vacuum, which we do not live in. Because a vacuum, actually proves my point more than it does yours. The belief in the flat earth says that whats heavier than air (or close to it)falls. So with no air, EVERYTHING falls. But the existence/or nonexistence of air, isnt the argument. Gravity is. So Im saying that to me, who is now skeptical of the mainstream view concerning this, it makes no sense to believe that there is a force that can bring down weighted ton objects down, but not feathers. Its akin to believing again, that someone can bench 300lbs but struggle with 30.
If you never actually endeavored to understand what was being taught, and simply 'regurgitated' words in text-books without considering them, it's no wonder you so completely misunderstand everything you were supposedly taught.Anyways at the time I took the class, I didnt take it to "test" what they said as being true or false. I simply took the class and accepted what they taught and did my best to regurgitate the information back to them for the highest grade possible. Hardly a case of "misunderstanding" anything.
But heres an example of what you would do if we were to even engage in that:
That 'Huh' was in response to this sentence:Huh?
Which is generally incoherent.Of course the points themselves are better put in another thread, to which you would do as you did here in regards to the REAL point being made, and not respond.
Yar, and after asking who the right people are and what the right way to go about it is, I pointed out the irony of you making this statement and using physics of all things as an example, as you clearly went to the wrong people to learn about physics-related subjects, namely YouTube and the Flat-Earth community.The point was going to the wrong people to learn about a specific subject can lead to a misunderstanding and worse a rejection of said subject because of receiving wrong information. Instead of addressing the point of my analogy, you take the "physics" part out and start bringing up things that you dont even want to discuss anyways.
'The moving finger writes, and having writ moves on: nor all thy piety nor wit shall lure it back to cancel half a line, nor all thy tears wash out a word of it.' - The Rubaiyat of Omar KhayyamThe real truth of the matter is that I have you in your feelings from old threads still while I brush ish off and kept it moving lol. I didnt come in this thread with any of that in mind, just read thru the last couple of pages and responded to something you said.
I simply remember you, and don't want anyone unfamiliar with you to make the mistake of taking you seriously.