near-death experiences (NDEs)

[Orwell's mentor]

Posting this one for you, Mrs. "S". My neighbour just informed me your four-legged BFF passed away two weeks ago and won't answer the door for anyone. I know it's a devastating loss saying good-bye to them, but I honestly hope and pray you don't succumb to a broken heart:

Atheist's Dog Leads Her To The Gates Of Heaven | NDE

 

[phipps]

Lies and untruths do no comfort.

NDE's are one of Satan’s biggest tricks. No one dies and then comes back to life with stories about heaven. This is contrary to God's Word on the subject of death.

A person is not dead if they are having a near-death experience.

If they have a story to tell they were not dead according to the Bible. Almost dead? Yes. Really dead? No. That’s why they call them near-death experiences, not after-death experiences.

Death as the Bible defines it.

Psalm 6:5, “For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?”

Psalm 30:9, “Shall the dust praise thee? shall it declare thy truth?”

Isaiah 38:18-19, “For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth. The living, the living, he shall praise thee, as I do this day.”


No one that dies goes straight to heaven or hell according the Bible. They are in their graves unconscious or asleep and do not know anything that goes on the in the world.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

The righteous living and the dead saints do not go to heaven until the second coming of Jesus Christ. See also 1 Thessalonians 2:19; John 14:3. All life after death depends upon one thing - the fact of the resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:16-18, "For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished."

Without the resurrection, all of the good people who died are perished. This could not be true if they went to heaven when they died. If the righteous went to heaven when they died, there would be no need of a resurrection. There could be no reason for Christ to come back to this earth the second time to gather His saints (see John 14:3) if they had already gone to heaven at death.

If the wicked go into hell-fire at death, and the righteous to heaven at death, what need would there be for a judgment day at the end of time, or for Christ to reward every man exactly according to his works? Yet that is what we read in Matthew 16:27; Revelation 22:12. This idea of a person going to hell or heaven at death destroys the Bible doctrine of the resurrection, the second coming of Christ, and the judgment at the end of time.

There is no text in the Bible which, when rightly understood, teaches that anybody goes to hell or heaven at death, because the Bible simply does not contradict itself!

The dead do not know anything. When a Christian dies, the next moment, as far as his knowledge is concerned, he will be with Christ. The lapse of time between a Christian's death and Jesus second coming, the glorious resurrection day, will seem to him like an instant. To him it will seem as if the next moment after he closes his eyes in death, he will awaken to be with his blessed Saviour forever. The first righteous man who died will awaken and stand in Christ's presence at the same time as the last man who died. To each, the elapsed time between death and the resurrection will seem to be only for a moment.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Lies and untruths do no comfort.

A person is not dead if they are having a near-death experience.

If they have a story to tell they were not dead according to the Bible. Almost dead? Yes. Really dead? No. That’s why they call them near-death experiences, not after-death experiences.

Death as the Bible defines it.

Psalm 6:5, “For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?”

Psalm 30:9, “Shall the dust praise thee? shall it declare thy truth?”

Isaiah 38:18-19, “For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth. The living, the living, he shall praise thee, as I do this day.”

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No one that dies goes straight to heaven or hell according the Bible. They are in their graves unconscious or asleep and do not know anything that goes on the in the world.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

The righteous living and the dead saints do not go to heaven until the second coming of Jesus Christ. See also 1 Thessalonians 2:19; John 14:3. All life after death depends upon one thing - the fact of the resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:16-18, "For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished."

Without the resurrection, all of the good people who died are perished. This could not be true if they went to heaven when they died. If the righteous went to heaven when they died, there would be no need of a resurrection. There could be no reason for Christ to come back to this earth the second time to gather His saints (see John 14:3) if they had already gone to heaven at death.

If the wicked go into hell-fire at death, and the righteous to heaven at death, what need would there be for a judgment day at the end of time, or for Christ to reward every man exactly according to his works? Yet that is what we read in Matthew 16:27; Revelation 22:12. This idea of a person going to hell or heaven at death destroys the Bible doctrine of the resurrection, the second coming of Christ, and the judgment at the end of time.

There is no text in the Bible which, when rightly understood, teaches that anybody goes to hell or heaven at death, because the Bible simply does not contradict itself!

The dead do not know anything. When a Christian dies, the next moment, as far as his knowledge is concerned, he will be with Christ. The lapse of time between a Christian's death and Jesus second coming, the glorious resurrection day, will seem to him like an instant. To him it will seem as if the next moment after he closes his eyes in death, he will awaken to be with his blessed Saviour forever. The first righteous man who died will awaken and stand in Christ's presence at the same time as the last man who died. To each, the elapsed time between death and the resurrection will seem to be only for a moment.

Whatever, phipps. I merely posted a video thinking about my elderly neighbour who is now completely all by herself. We all knew this day would come, and I know it's going to be tough for her to get over the loss because she was devasted when her husband passed away a few years ago.

Please feel free to post as much gibberish as you want in this thread. I have no desire to interact with your online toxicity on here.

 

[phipps]

 

[phipps]

Our interpretation of what happens at death should not be determined by NDEs or other death experiences. The Bible itself should be allowed to speak for itself. There is life after death and a real place called heaven, but we will not experience the joys of paradise until the resurrection when Jesus returns (Revelation 22:12). Let’s not have “near-truth” experiences. Let’s make sure we are spot on in what the Bible really says about life after death.

As I posted in my thread about NDE's, "Near death experiences do not in any way prove the doctrine of the immortal soul. If we accept NDE’s as true afterlife experiences we must do so whether the person is Hindu, Christian or whatever. We must also be willing to embrace the plethora of contradictions they propose. While NDE’s are real experiences I see no ground to believe that they are genuine afterlife experiences. At best they are merely psychological and at worst they are Satanic deceptions. To this day Satan has not changed his tactic. He continues to deceive and, as his time runs short, will do so with even more intensity. Our only safeguard is the word of God."

 

[Flarepath]

Some bereaved people turn to seances for comfort-
MEDIUM- "Is there anybody there?"
VOICE- "Yes this is Albert"
ALBERT'S WIDOW- "Oh Albert, what divine messages do you bring me from the Great Beyond?"
ALBERT- "Buy your fish fingers from Tesco, they're cheaper there, watch the milkman he's on the fiddle, and be careful walking down Saxby St tonight, the dog at number 12 has done a heap in the middle of the pavement again"

 

[M G]

This New York City Jewish man's NDE is very super interesting! I discovered this by accident b/c he did a fantastic video on "Should you take the Corona Vaccine" which was hidden/scrubbed for three years..

Rabbi Alon Anava - Near Death Experience

A Jewish atheist who grew up as a secular Jew has a NDE and returns to G-od and becomes an Orthodox Rabbi. Hear his testimonial

www.alonanava.com

 

[Daze]

Whatever, phipps. I merely posted a video thinking about my elderly neighbour who is now completely all by herself. We all knew this day would come, and I know it's going to be tough for her to get over the loss because she was devasted when her husband passed away a few years ago.

Please feel free to post as much gibberish as you want in this thread. I have no desire to interact with your online toxicity on here.

Not to pile on, but Phipps is right on this one. At least from an Islamic perspective.

There is a barrier separating the dead from the living, called the barzak. None can pass it. The only way to leave this world is to meet the angel of death. When you can actually see him (as its said, he stares us in the face 5 times a day every day). At this point he takes your soul and you no longer have any contact with this realm.

I know it's hard to lose a loved one, even if it's a pet, but false hope doesn't help anyone. Look at all the people who worship a prophet. Is false hope helping them in the end? If it's any comfort, these people are not "dead". They are alive as you and me, just in another dimension. Illyeen and Sijeen

Many people in this life have claimed NDE's, but this usually involves the devil. If not, then the person is insane, or simply lying.

I think I have mentioned some of these things already in this thread but idr. One thing is clear. This life is a test. Nothing more. Once we die, it ends and the grading of it begins.

Death is promised, and scripture is the reminder of our true destination. None can return.

 

[Daze]

Some bereaved people turn to seances for comfort-
MEDIUM- "Is there anybody there?"
VOICE- "Yes this is Albert"
ALBERT'S WIDOW- "Oh Albert, what divine messages do you bring me from the Great Beyond?"
ALBERT- "Buy your fish fingers from Tesco, they're cheaper there, watch the milkman he's on the fiddle, and be careful walking down Saxby St tonight, the dog at number 12 has done a heap in the middle of the pavement again"

They turn to the devil you mean.

The one who goes to a fortune-teller and calls him a liar, his prayer is not accepted for 40 days.

Have you heard of the Salem witch trials? Before Christianity became the watered down religion it is today, magic used to be forbidden in your faith as well. As I've explained numerous times here, magic involves devil worship.

 

[Flarepath]

I heard Princess Di visited her personal fortune teller jut prior to getting killed in the car crash, so obviously the teller didn't look into her crystal ball and say "On no account go riding around Paris with your fancy man and a drunk driver".

Hitler also had his personal fortune teller even though he'd had some of them jailed before the war, but after he released them it probably went something like this-
ADOLF- "I hope you don't bear a grudge against me?"
TELLER- "Of course not mein fuhrer"
ADOLF- "Good, now tell me if i'll be successful if I launch world war 2?"
TELLER- "Yes, go for it"..

 

[A Freeman]

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Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the "Dead" (those under God's death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Luke 9:55) bury their dead.

It should be self-evident (i.e. blatantly obvious) that the "dead" referenced above are the SPIRITUALLY dead, a it is IMPOSSIBLE for physically dead humans to bury other physically dead humans.

The most important words in all of Scripture are found in John 3:3-7, where Christ, through the mouth of Jesus, stated the following TRUTH:

John 3:3-7
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-"Being" (his REAL, SPIRITUAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-"Being" - John 4:24).
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh (human); and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-"Being"/Soul) - (which together form a human+Being - Gen. 2:7).
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye MUST be born again.

Anyone who still believes the LIE that they are "only human after all" very obviously has NOT been born again as their true, spiritual self. This is the exact same LIE Lucifer/Satan/Iblis told Eve in the Garden of Eden when he conned her into eating from the tree of the knowledge of good AND evil, to allegedly become a "god", i.e. a spiritual-Being/soul (see: Gen. 2:16-17; Gen. 3:1-5 along with Psalm 82; and John 10:34).

And, exactly as Christ (the immortal spiritual-Being and First-created Son of God) said through the mouth of Jesus (the mortal human son of Mary) whom Christ incarnated, no human can ever understand Scripture nor enter the Kingdom of heaven.

 

[A Freeman]

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If we look at each of the verses/passages that Phipps has cited, understanding the TRUTH that we are spiritual-Beings who are TEMPORARILY incarnating the human (flesh) we see in the mirror, exactly as Christ stated through the mouth of Jesus, it should become obvious to anyone who has truly been reborn as their spiritual self that: it is the spiritual rebirth/awakening that comes with the death of the "self" that matters, NOT the death of the human body, which the Scripture repeatedly refers to as "sleeping" (e.g. sleeping with their fathers).

Genesis 2:7 And the "I AM" God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became alive and was given a soul [spirit Being] (becoming a human+Being).

Job 14
14:1 Man [that is] born of a woman [is] of few days, and full of trouble.
14:2 He cometh forth like a flower, and is cut down: he fleeth also as a shadow, and continueth not (all human existence ends in physical, human death).
14:3 And dost Thou open Thine eyes upon such an one, and bringest me into Judgment with Thee?
14:4 Who can bring a clean [thing] out of an unclean? not one (1 Corinthians 15:50-51).
14:5 Seeing his days [are] determined, the number of his months [are] with Thee, Thou hast appointed his bounds that he cannot pass;
14:6 Turn from him, that he may rest, till he shall accomplish, as an hireling, his day.
14:7 For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease (just as there is hope that a spiritual-Being will sprout again inside a new human body and learn what they need to learn, to avoid The Fire that awaits most on Judgment Day).
14:8 Though the root (the spiritual-Beings) thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof (humans) die in the ground;
14:9 [Yet] through the scent of water (human life, which comes forth when the mother's water breaks) it (the spiritual-Being) will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant.
14:10 But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost (the spiritual-Being/soul that is taken up to "paradise" upon the death of the human body), and where [is] he?
14:11 [As] the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not (the human body decays and is reabsorbed into the soil): till the heavens [be] no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep (no one will be coming out of the graves that humans make to worship their human existence).
14:13 O that Thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that Thou wouldest keep me secret, until Thy wrath be past, that Thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
14:14 If a man die, shall he live [again]? (no human will live again; those spiritual-Beings who awaken from their spiritual sleep at the last trump, will) all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come (1 Cor. 15:50-52).
14:15 Thou shalt call, and I will answer Thee: Thou wilt have a desire to the work of Thine hands.
14:16 For now Thou numberest my steps: dost Thou not watch over my sin?
14:17 My transgression [is] sealed up in a bag, and Thou sewest up mine iniquity.
14:18 And surely the mountain falling cometh to nought, and the rock is removed out of his place.
14:19 The waters wear the stones: Thou washest away the things which grow [out] of the dust of the earth; and Thou destroyest the hope of man (all human kingdom building will never amount to anything as it will all be destroyed to build Father's (God's) Kingdom).
14:20 Thou prevailest for ever against him (the natural man and his carnal mind is enmity against God - 1 Cor. 2:14; Rom. 8:5-8) , and he passeth: Thou changest his countenance, and sendest him away.
14:21 His sons come to honour, and he knoweth [it] not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth [it] not of them.
14:22 But his flesh upon him shall have pain, AND HIS SOUL WITHIN him shall mourn.


Job 17:8-14
17:8 Upright [men] shall be astonished at this, and the innocent shall stir up himself against the hypocrite (Matt. 15:7-9; Sura 63).
17:9 The righteous also shall hold on his way, and he that hath clean hands shall be stronger and stronger (growing spiritually in each human lifetime they experience).
17:10 But as for you all, do ye return, and come now: for I cannot find [one] wise [man] among you (Ps. 53:1-3; 2 Esd. 5:4-10).
17:11 My days are past, my purposes are broken off, [even] the thoughts of my heart.
17:12 They change the night into day: the light [is] short because of darkness.
17:13 If I wait (to awaken spiritually - Dan. 12:1-2; Eph. 5:14), the grave [is] mine house: I have made my bed in the darkness (John 3:18-21).
17:14 I have said to corruption, Thou [art] my father: to the worm, [Thou art] my mother, and my sister (when spiritually, Christ said that those who DO God's Will are His brother, sister and mother - Mark 3:35, and Christ will NEVER die - Heb. 13:8).

Job 27:1-8
27:1 Moreover Job continued his parable, and said,
27:2 [As] God Liveth, [who] hath taken away my Judgment; and the Almighty, [who] hath vexed my soul;
27:3 All the while my breath [is] in me, AND the Spirit of God [is] in my nostrils;
27:4 My lips shall not speak wickedness, nor my tongue utter deceit.
27:5 God forbid that I should justify you: till I die I will not remove mine integrity from me.
27:6 My righteousness I hold fast, and will not let it go: my heart shall not reproach [me] so long as I live.
27:7 Let mine enemy be as the wicked, and he that riseth up against me as the unrighteous.
27:8 For what [is] the hope of the hypocrite, though he hath gained, when God taketh away his soul?

 

[A Freeman]

Ecclesiastes 9:1-7
9:1 For all this I decided in my heart even to declare all this, that the righteous, and the wise, and their works, [are] in the hand of God: no man (human) KNOWETH either love or hatred [by] all [that is] before them (in their human existence here on Earth).
9:2 All [things come] alike to all: [there is] one event to the righteous, and to the wicked (Judgment Day); to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not: as [is] the good, so [is] the sinner; [and] he that sweareth, as [he] that feareth an oath.
9:3 This [is] an evil among all [things] that are done under the sun, that [there is] one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men (humans) is full of evil, and madness [is] in their heart while they live (Jer. 17:9), and after that [they go] to the "dead" (Rev. 20:12-15).
9:4 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.
9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any [thing] that is done under the sun (see Eccl. 1:1-14 for the proper context, which is speaking of the vanity of human existence).
9:7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
9:8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack not oil [of understanding - enlightenment].
9:9 Enjoy life with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which He hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that [is] thy portion in [this] life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.
9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do [it] with thy might; for [there is] no work, nor device, nor Knowledge, nor Wisdom, in the grave, where thou goest (all human existence ends in human death, and anyone who continues to believe they are "only human" is among the spiritually "dead".).

Ecclesiastes 1:1-3, 14
1:1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
1:2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all [is] vanity.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was (Gen. 13:16): and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it (Gen. 2:7).

 

[A Freeman]

Psalm 104:27-30
104:27 These wait all upon Thee; that Thou mayest give [them] their meat in due season.
104:28 [That] Thou givest them they gather: Thou openest Thine hand, they are filled with good.
104:29 Thou hidest Thy face, they are troubled: Thou takest away their breath, they (the humans) die, and RETURN to their dust (while the spiritual-Being is sent back, in a body commensurate with the place that soul has earned a right to be in eternal time - Gen. 13:16).
104:30 Thou sendest forth Thy spirit, they are created: and Thou renewest the face of the earth.

Genesis 13:14-16
13:14 And the "I AM" said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:
13:15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
13:16 And I will make thy seed as "the dust of the earth": so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, [then] shall thy seed also be numbered.

Psalm 146
146:1 Praise ye the "I AM". Praise the "I AM", O my soul.
146:2 While I live will I praise the "I AM": I will sing praises unto my God while I have my Being.
146:3 Put not your trust in princes, [nor] in the son of man (fellow human+Beings), in whom [there is] no help.
146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
146:5 Happy [is he] that [hath] the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope [is] in the "I AM" his God:
146:6 Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein [is]: Which keepeth Truth for ever:
146:7 Which executeth Judgment for the oppressed: Which giveth food to the hungry. The "I AM" looseth the prisoners (of this prison planet reform school for the criminally insane):
146:8 The "I AM" openeth [the eyes of] the blind: the "I AM" raiseth them that are bowed down: the "I AM" loveth the righteous:
146:9 The "I AM" preserveth the strangers; He relieveth the fatherless and widow: but the way of the wicked He turneth upside down.
146:10 The "I AM" shall Reign for ever, [even] thy God, O Zion, unto all generations. Praise ye the "I AM".

 

[A Freeman]

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead (John 6:63), so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD also.

Galatians 5:17-26
5:17 For the flesh (human) lusteth against the Spirit (Being), and the Spirit (Being) against the flesh (human): and these are opposed the one to the other (John 3:3-7; Rom. 8:5-8): so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
5:18 But IF ye be led by the Holy Spirit, ye are not under (the curse of) The Law (Deut. 28:15-68).
5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
5:20 Idolatry, pharmacy, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall NOT inherit The Kingdom of God.
5:22 But the fruit of the Holy Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no Law.
5:24 And they that ARE Christ's have [already] crucified the "Self" (Matt. 10:38; Mark 8:34; Luke 9:23; Luke 14:26-27; Gal. 2:20; Sura 6:162; Sura 92:18-21) with the [partiality of] affections and lusts (of the flesh).
5:25 If we live as our Spirit (Being), let us also walk as the Holy Spirit (Matt. 5:48).
5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

 

[A Freeman]

Acts 2:19-36
2:19 And I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the Earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
2:20 The "sun" (Ps. 89:36) shall be turned into darkness, and the "moon" into blood, before that great and notable Day of the Lord come:
2:21 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus the Nazarite, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and (Clear) Signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be held by it.
2:25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
2:26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
2:27 Because Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (Ps. 16:10), neither wilt Thou suffer Thine Holy One to see corruption.
2:28 Thou hast made known to me The Ways of Life; Thou shalt make me full of joy with Thy countenance.
2:29 Men [and] brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he (the human body, NOT the soul/spiritual-Being) is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
2:30 Therefore being a Prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh (human lineage of Jesus from David, as recorded in Matthew 1:1-17), he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne (Luke 1:31-33);
2:31 He seeing this before spoke of the Resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens (John 3:13): but he saith himself, The "I AM" said unto my Lord, Sit thou on My right hand,
2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
2:36 Therefore let all the House of Israel know assuredly, that God hath MADE that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

 

[A Freeman]

Revelation 16:1-6
16:1 And I heard a great voice out of The Temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the Wrath of God upon the Earth.
16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the "earth"; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped its image.
16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the "sea" (the people - Isa. 17:12-13; Rev. 17:15); and it became as the blood of a dead [man]: and every Living soul died in the "sea".
16:4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
16:5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because Thou hast judged thus.
16:6 For they have shed the blood of the holy people and prophets, and Thou hast given them blood to drink; for that they deserve (perfect karma/just desserts - Gal. 6:7, where everyone will be judge according to their works in EVERY human lifetime they have lived - Matt. 16:27).

It should be obvious from the above passages that only the human dies, and that each and every one of us here on Earth now has been here MANY times before, to learn what we NEED to learn, to be able to go home, to heaven.

No human can understand Scripture, which is why they (the humans) deny that there is life after human death, as that spiritual concept is as completely foreign to them as the NEED for us to keep God's Law.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man (the human) receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they make no sense to him: neither can he understand [them], because they can ONLY be spiritually discerned [by the spirit - the Being part of the human+Being].

Reincarnation IS an irrefutable fact that everyone who is actually awake spiritually should know.

Reincarnation Is An Irrefutable Fact

Reincarnation is an irrefutable fact taught throughout the Old Covenant, New Covenant and the Koran; and so is karma – aka sowing and reaping.

gibraltar-messenger.net

And NDE's are absolutely Scriptural, as there were numerous individuals brought back from the dead. NDEs are also God's Way of giving us a glimpse into reality, that we are NOT flesh and blood, but are, in fact, spiritual-Beings who are temporarily incarnating the human animal body we see in the mirror.

Until these FACTS are clearly understood and accepted (if they ever are), arrogant/ignorant humans will falsely claim that reincarnation isn't real, even though the Scriptures (Old Covenant/Testament, New Covenant/Testament AND the Koran/Quran) are literally replete with references to reincarnation.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Not to pile on, but Phipps is right on this one. At least from an Islamic perspective.

There is a barrier separating the dead from the living, called the barzak. None can pass it. The only way to leave this world is to meet the angel of death. When you can actually see him (as its said, he stares us in the face 5 times a day every day). At this point he takes your soul and you no longer have any contact with this realm.

I know it's hard to lose a loved one, even if it's a pet, but false hope doesn't help anyone. Look at all the people who worship a prophet. Is false hope helping them in the end? If it's any comfort, these people are not "dead". They are alive as you and me, just in another dimension. Illyeen and Sijeen

Many people in this life have claimed NDE's, but this usually involves the devil. If not, then the person is insane, or simply lying.

I think I have mentioned some of these things already in this thread but idr. One thing is clear. This life is a test. Nothing more. Once we die, it ends and the grading of it begins.

Death is promised, and scripture is the reminder of our true destination. None can return.

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I’m only directing this to you because you’ve responded to me because it’s somewhat of a general comment.

I honestly don’t care what phipps thinks. He can post reams of bible quotes all he wants just as others do, it doesn’t mean he’s right. I'd wager to bet that no one has watched or listened to any of the videos to see they have to say. All they seem to be interested in is posting their same, pedestrian message without considering other perspectives.

FWIW, @Damien50 made a similar thread when these boards opened back up in ‘17. If you look through it, you’ll notice most of the members who were in the engaging online conversation are no longer active:

The After Or The Now?

My soul is fine and im not questioning yours either.. if you want to continue to rant on with your "god is everything fall to your knees" stuff then i am going to take off the kid gloves and stop biting my tongue. The people ruling this world who have ruled this world for millenia are masters...

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As well, there are many YT channels that discuss this phenomenon:

1. Golden Years Hub
2. Touching the Afterlife
3. Coming Home
4. Supernatural End Times
5. Crossing Over NDE
6. NDE Tube
7. Touching the Afterlife
8. Beyond with Heather Tesch

Personally, I enjoyed listening to this John Burke here because he seems to reiterate what Gary Habermas has said regarding the experience. This is an excerpt from John Burke's video with Sean McDowell:

“For decades, John Burke has been studying accounts of survivors brought back from near death who lived to tell of both heavenly and hellish experiences. There are common experiences shared by thousands of survivors whether they are doctors, college professors, bank presidents, people of all ages and cultures, and even blind people--point to the exhilarating picture of Heaven promised in the Bible.”​

All that said, the way these boards have been lately, I know no one’s going to watch even a snippet of the videos I’ve posted, or consider another viewpoint. These boards have become a very dim and uninteresting place with members spouting the same thing ad nauseam. Evidently, they’ve seemed to reached their peak because no one is willing to further any conversations by having a discussion.

For me, I suppose it’s a good thing because my current job keeps me incredibly busy and don’t have much time to interact.

 

[Daze]

All that said, the way these boards have been lately, I know no one’s going to watch even a snippet of the videos I’ve posted, or consider another viewpoint. These boards have become a very dim and uninteresting place with members spouting the same thing ad nauseam. Evidently, they’ve seemed to reached their peak because no one is willing to further any conversations by having a discussion.

I agree with this. These boards are not even a shadow of what they used to be. For the most part, it's just trolls and people not playing with a full deck these days. The only active thread really is the Palestine thread, and it is mainly news. Those who wanted to engage or even bring content have left.

I might check these boards once a day or so, and seldom do I see actual content. Social media is full of Palestine news. All day, every day. There are not a lot of reasons to use these boards unless you want to feed the trolls, bots or those who think replies are censorship.

It's not that I wanted to shut down your content, just that It's akin to flat earth from an Islamic standpoint. Generally impossible. But i see your point in that this is becoming a ghost town. My apoligies.

 

[Flarepath]

..I know no one’s going to watch even a snippet of the videos I’ve posted...

Ah, but remember this is a discussion forum where people can hear each others views, rather than be shunted off to videos to do their talking for them..
A good compromise would be for vid posters to always briefly say exactly what the vid is about, then leave it to people to decide whether they want to watch it.
Personally I rarely listen to any vid over 1 minute in length, and when I post vids myself I make sure they're very very short, right Elv?-