Trump Vs The Nfl

AMK

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Personally I think this is Trump's way of hiding what he doesn't want us to see. He makes these stupid comments and gets everyone irritated by them. While people are fuming and paying attention to the NFL players and their reactions there's all this other crap going on like the devastation in Puerto Rico that our moron "President" is barely acknowledging. There's also the latest news that his daughter and son-in-law among others have used their personal emails for White House business. "Lock em up! Lock em up!" right?
Nah let's all pay attention to Trump criticizing football players.
 

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Personally I think this is Trump's way of hiding what he doesn't want us to see. He makes these stupid comments and gets everyone irritated by them. While people are fuming and paying attention to the NFL players and their reactions there's all this other crap going on like the devastation in Puerto Rico that our moron "President" is barely acknowledging. There's also the latest news that his daughter and son-in-law among others have used their personal emails for White House business. "Lock em up! Lock em up!" right?
Nah let's all pay attention to Trump criticizing football players.
A CNN newsanchor said this yesterday: its the art of distraction. From everything going wrong, healthcare, et al".
They even brought up the old tweet about the Redskins. Why can't he FOCUS on more important things like he patronized back then?
 

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https://theintercept.com/2017/09/25/colin-kaepernick-nfl-national-anthem-protest-donald-trump/


Well this is just another stage of the "reality show presidency". NFL fans are against the protests and for Trump if the booing is any indication. The NFL is corrupt as hell and has been a mouth-piece for the Military Industrial Complex for decades.

Anyway further distraction and it will play well with his base, but it brings me to this, so many of you are obsessed with George Soros trying to start a race war, so why is it ok for Trump to try and start one?
 
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Well while police brutality/abuse of power is definitely a problem in America, I dont think getting on one knee does anything to solve it. Just seems like an attention seeking type of gesture instead of a plan that has an end game or goal to it. And since the one who started it (Kapernick) never talks, it seems like he is and maybe always has been controlled since the start of the protests. His stance only gets explained in the form of clothes, gestures, and memes instead of actual words...

Basing it on talent, he definitely should be in the NFL going off the last season he played. There are definitely worse starters and backups than him playing right now. The problem is the fanfare doesnt match the production. Kinda like Tim Tebow but with Kapernick being way better. So I understand why he doesn't have a job

The thing about Trump that I like is that he is the most candid president ever. And with that, its causing people to reveal themselves. It has caused the white nationalists to come out the woodwork and exposed a great amount of blacks as being weak minded since they are practically begging for people that don't like them to like them. Which is pretty much what the civil rights was about. Blacks begging to sit at the popular table when the popular kids didn't (and still don't for the most part) want them to instead of continuing with their own table. Either way Trump is here to take down America once and for all (imo) which is why he doesn't even fake being diplomatic or a unifying figure. Of course we'll see what happens
 
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I don't think that's what the civil rights movement was about.
On face value you're right. It was about rights and equality and etc....

Looking at it on a deeper level that's exactly what it was. Society was telling them they weren't liked, loved, nor welcome and instead of accepting that and trying to deal with their own, they went into the streets and begged that very same society to love and accept them. Even that subjected themselves to physical violence and bogus arrests, they still went and begged. I don't blame them for their choice in that because I would have probably done the same. But looking back at it, it was a weak move that ultimately didn't (and won't ever) get them what they strived for. All this being how I perceive it of course...
 

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On face value you're right. It was about rights and equality and etc....

Looking at it on a deeper level that's exactly what it was. Society was telling them they weren't liked, loved, nor welcome and instead of accepting that and trying to deal with their own, they went into the streets and begged that very same society to love and accept them. Even that subjected themselves to physical violence and bogus arrests, they still went and begged. I don't blame them for their choice in that because I would have probably done the same. But looking back at it, it was a weak move that ultimately didn't (and won't ever) get them what they strived for. All this being how I perceive it of course...
I guess society has to change then.
 

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Why are people making a huge deal over some team members kneeling during the anthem?? I do NOT get how ANAL Americans have become over what people do during the Anthem! They're making it out like it's a crime and should be illegal. Talk about taking sports too seriously like holy fuck!

I hate sports, so I could give a rats ass! Americans need to get a grip and stop making a big deal out of nothing. Saying that kneeling during our anthem is disrespectful is retarded. I think there are way more serious issues going on and conservatives are losing their minds over this? Lol so dumb!
 

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I feel like this is a good time to chime in with the story about Trump during last years Super Bowl. The Patriots were down big time, and Trump gave up on them. He left the dinner where they were screening the game. So basically he's a fair weather fan anyway. He doesn't really care about this stuff either. Unless it helps his agenda.

We all have to put ourselves in bad position just to talk about this stuff now. And it's not even about our divisions. It's about how credibility has been turned into a weapon. Like I could say the most intelligent commentary with empathy on max, and still lose credibility from somewhere. To me, this is why our leaders can't serve their actual function. You can't lead when you have to walk on eggshells
 

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Why are people making a huge deal over some team members kneeling during the anthem?? I do NOT get how ANAL Americans have become over what people do during the Anthem! They're making it out like it's a crime and should be illegal. Talk about taking sports too seriously like holy fuck!

I hate sports, so I could give a rats ass! Americans need to get a grip and stop making a big deal out of nothing. Saying that kneeling during our anthem is disrespectful is retarded. I think there are way more serious issues going on and conservatives are losing their minds over this? Lol so dumb!
A lot of us Americans felt the nfl was giving us a middle finger.

As for priorities, yes there are bigger problems at hand. Sports is just another entertainment outlet we take for granted. I admit I watch sports. I'm an avid hockey fan, I watch a bit of basketball here and there. The teams winning or losing do not make or break my day at all. As I said; just a form of entertainment.

The nfl didn't really offend me personally. I can only speak from my own opinion. But a lot of us Americans do have some hardcore patriotic/nationalistic beliefs. The red, white and blue means a ton to a lot of us. It's a symbol of freedom, etc
 

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Well while police brutality/abuse of power is definitely a problem in America, I dont think getting on one knee does anything to solve it. Just seems like an attention seeking type of gesture instead of a plan that has an end game or goal to it. And since the one who started it (Kapernick) never talks, it seems like he is and maybe always has been controlled since the start of the protests. His stance only gets explained in the form of clothes, gestures, and memes instead of actual words...

Basing it on talent, he definitely should be in the NFL going off the last season he played. There are definitely worse starters and backups than him playing right now. The problem is the fanfare doesnt match the production. Kinda like Tim Tebow but with Kapernick being way better. So I understand why he doesn't have a job

The thing about Trump that I like is that he is the most candid president ever. And with that, its causing people to reveal themselves. It has caused the white nationalists to come out the woodwork and exposed a great amount of blacks as being weak minded since they are practically begging for people that don't like them to like them. Which is pretty much what the civil rights was about. Blacks begging to sit at the popular table when the popular kids didn't (and still don't for the most part) want them to instead of continuing with their own table. Either way Trump is here to take down America once and for all (imo) which is why he doesn't even fake being diplomatic or a unifying figure. Of course we'll see what happens
Gotta give President Trump props on the fact he's not afraid to speak up. I don't agree with his harsh, but often much needed outburst, but he speaks a lot of the average joe's thougts.
 
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Gotta give President Trump props on the fact he's not afraid to speak up. I don't agree with his harsh, but often much needed outburst, but he speaks a lot of the average joe's thougts.
Yea I like that he gives it straight without the fake diplomacy/soft speak. But with that said I don't think he's speaking for the average joe. I think more so he's pandering to a certain sect of society so to further divide US and demonize the sect he panders to.
 

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A CNN newsanchor said this yesterday: its the art of distraction. From everything going wrong, healthcare, et al".
They even brought up the old tweet about the Redskins. Why can't he FOCUS on more important things like he patronized back then?
Things like this happen over there, major distractions at times when bills are pushed through parliment that people have been protesting against and they are snuck through while everybodys focused on the big media discractions, seems to happen all the time!
 

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This is pushing the division template.
Patriotism Is A Two-Edged Sword
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Patriotism Is A Two-Edged Sword

Paul Craig Roberts

I sometimes wonder if America’s greatest threat is the population’s hyper-patriotism. The bulk of the population is now at work shutting down the NFL players’ First Amendment rights, and none of the incensed censors are capable of understanding that it is they, and not the NFL players, who are attacking the U.S. Constitution. We have been through all this flag business before, and federal courts have ruled for the protesters who burnt flags, wore them on their clothes, whatever. Yet, here we go again.

Hardwick Clothes CEO pulls the company’s advertising from NFL games. Insofar as advertising helps Hardwick’s shareholders, CEO Allan Jones is hurting his own shareholders in order to protest the NFL players’ protests, a thought that probably never occurred to him. http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/984704-first-ceo-hits-nfl-right-wallet-unpatriotic-national-anthem-protests/

According to this report — http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/09/26/americans-nationwide-burn-nfl-tickets-shirts-in-solidarity-with-trump/ — white people across the country are burning their NFL shirts and their expensive tickets for which they paid hundreds of dollars.

A Louisiana state representative has introduced legislation to ban state subsidies for the New Orleans Saints because of their “disgraceful protests.” It is OK with Rep. Kenny Havard for Louisiana taxpayers to give hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies to the NFL team as long as the players stand for the anthem, but not if they don’t. It apparently never occurred to Havard to question whether relatively poor Louisiana taxpayers should be giving hundreds of millions of dollars to a billionaire team owner. There is no doubt that the average salary of the Saints exceeds the average salary of Louisiana taxpayers. http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/984526-louisiana-state-rep-pushes-make-nfl-team-pay-national-anthem-protests-literally/

Former NFL quarterback John Elway declares: “I believe that this is the greatest country in the world,” and his personal belief takes care of the numerous protesters who clearly have a different view. http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/984449-john-elway-responds-anthem-protests-nfl-players-pay-attention-words/

Bill O’Reilly makes a guest appearance on Fox News berating the NFL protesters for ignoring the effect on US soldiers in Afghanistan who “are putting their life on the line.” Apparently, after all these years it still has not occurred to O’Reilly that the soldiers’ lives — and those of Afghans — are being put on the line by the military/security complex’s drive for profits and the neoconservative drive for US and Israeli hegemony. http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/984598-oreilly-makes-return-fox-news-remind-nfl-players-soldiers-fighting-3000-miles-away/

Trump sends out emails: “Do you stand with President Trump, our flag, and this great country” against the NFL protesters?

The childishness of it all is an American embarrassment.

The patriotic response is not only an attack on the First Amendment but also plays into the hands of Identity Politics, which has its own take on the matter. Julio Rosas writes in the HuffPost that standing for the national anthem is standing for white supremacy. http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/984655-huffpost-op-ed-white-athletes-stand-national-anthem-stand-white-supremacy/

Before a few dimwits send me emails demanding explanation why I stand for anti-American minorities against “the greatest country in the world,” let us all first consider where this is going. The answer is: nowhere good. The hyper-patriotism that is being whipped up is so irrational that it is against the self-interests of the counter-protesters, who are hurting the visibility of their merchandising brand and costing the shareholders profits, burning their clothing and expensive football tickets, and denying themselves their favorite entertainment.

The military/security complex, the hegemonic neoconservatives, and the Israel Lobby are sitting there, licking their chops. They know what to do with this display of ignorant patriotism. They will turn it against Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia. Their profits will flow even higher, neocon ambitions will be realized, and Israel will have the US eliminate another country — Iran — in the way of its expansion. Or so they think.

Russia cannot afford a vassal of Washington in Iran or the type of chaos in Iran that now engulfs Iraq and Libya. It is a short distance from Iran through Azerbaijan or Turkmenistan into Muslim areas of Russia and former Muslim provinces of the Soviet Union. If Iran falls, Russia is the next to be destabilized. Additionally, Iran in Washington’s hands extends to the East Washington’s surrounding of Russia. The Russian government would be confronted with US missile bases on its borders ranging from the Baltics through eastern and southern Europe, Ukraine, Georgia and Iran. Moreover, US missiles in Iran could reach China in a few minutes as can the US missile bases being constructed on China’s Pacific border under the guise of countering “the North Korean threat.”

China depends on Iran for 20 percent of its oil supply. China was forced out of its Libyan oil supply by Washington’s overthrow of Gaddafi. Losing Iran would be a blow. At some point these two powerful countries will have to realize that their national existence is at stake. China has been too busy making money to pay attention, and Russia has been in thrall to its centuries-old desire to be part of the West.

The Russian government’s policy of replying to Washington’s aggression with diplomacy has failed totally. This policy has been extremely expensive to Russia and today is a direct threat to Russia’s national survival. Whether Russia is too controlled by Washington and Israeli-installed billionaires to attend to its national interests remains to be seen.

China’s lust for riches is a non-substitute for national survival.

Washington is counting on these singular weaknesses of the only two countries capable of serving as a check on Washington’s unilateralism.

However, there are countervailing powers in Russia and China. The Operation Command of the Russian High Command has publicly given its opinion that Washington is preparing a surprise nuclear attack on Russia. It would be derelict beyond comprehension for President Putin to ignore this conclusion. Inside China, historic pride is a rival influence to the lust for riches. The Chinese are determined never again to be a mere playground for foreign powers.

Sooner or later even the hubris-overstuffed Zionist Lobby will realize that the American war against Iran that Israel is demanding is a fuse for a Third World War and that the Jews will be destroyed along with everyone else. From the “Nile to the Euphrates” will be a wasteland.

On this website on September 27, 2017, I addressed what can be done from the Western side to reduce the tensions that are leading to nuclear armageddon. On the Russian and Chinese side what can be done is a tri-party mutual defense pact between Russia, Iran, and China that is made public. This would tell the psychopaths in Washington and Israel that an attack on Iran means World War III.

If this is not a deterrent, then Washington and Israel are lost to evil, and life on earth is ended.
 

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The bulk of the population is now at work shutting down the NFL players’ First Amendment rights, and none of the incensed censors are capable of understanding that it is they, and not the NFL players, who are attacking the U.S. Constitution.
It is OK with Rep. Kenny Havard for Louisiana taxpayers to give hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies to the NFL team as long as the players stand for the anthem, but not if they don’t. It apparently never occurred to Havard to question whether relatively poor Louisiana taxpayers should be giving hundreds of millions of dollars to a billionaire team owner.
Bill O’Reilly makes a guest appearance on Fox News berating the NFL protesters for ignoring the effect on US soldiers in Afghanistan who “are putting their life on the line.” Apparently, after all these years it still has not occurred to O’Reilly that the soldiers’ lives — and those of Afghans — are being put on the line by the military/security complex’s drive for profits and the neoconservative drive for US and Israeli hegemony.
That's so true.
 
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