Why is religion so anti-LGBTQ

[Daze]

@Daze I didn't realize you were an actual predator. Using examples of broken lust for CHILDREN while damning sex between two adults. Homosexuality is still wrong but even worse is abusing a child. You're sick.

Why is this always the takeaway?

Its like I'm talking to myself and people are not even reading what I am typing. It's not Chinese people. It's plain everyday English. Just the topic is SO STIGMATIZED that any opponent to fornication brings instant hate.

Can't you see how brainwashed you are?

Go back and read what I said, then stop putting words in my mouth.

I have things to do, so don't expect a reply for some time. But Re-read what I have already said!

 

[L3M4]

Doesn't justify the fucking homophobia! Ya absolute weirdo!!

Homophobia is not having a different opinion or perspective, in fact that term was weaponized early 2010’s by the Elite to create a mainstream narrative against anyone who spoke the truth. just like they did with the covid scam. A lot of people who speak against lgbt lifestyle were in fact also lgbt themselves they engaged in same sex relationships or marriages and were “brave” to advocate, support and celebrate the lifestyle in all forms until they realized the consequences of how the shadow government infiltrates them and manipulate their speech to bring other evil agendas such as the spread of std’s, drug lifestyle, destroying family values or community values and morale, destroying the human body by using castrating drugs used for rapist to “turn“ children into a different “gender” or use nazi surgery procedures to completely remove their reproductive organs and such also most catastrophic is they’re using the lgbt to push p***philia and open laws that put children in more danger. so we see even more lgbt who actively engage in same sex intimacy but advocate against the lgbt “agenda”

 

[Drifter]

Do you not know women have had children at young ages for 1000's of years? Serious question.

Many reject it today (as they do with most "unpleasant" news), but there are Christian sources that say Mary was 12 when Jesus was born.
I guess God wanted to endanger her life?


Proof that puberty has gotten earlier? Or is this more $cience?




Strawman. Being a Muslim, I'm against homosexuality.

Being a Muslim, I'm against fornication. Since a man can not marry a man in Islamic law, such a union can never exist. Homosexuality will always be fornication. Regardless of how many state sponsored documents they have reassuring them of their degeneracy.



I actually agree with this. My only problem with homosexuality is God has forbidden it. Yet when we look into it, we can see why. Such as STD's that only come from sodomy. Anal sex is even forbidden between a woman and a man for the same reasons.

Remember when I said God has only forbid what brings harm?




Let me be 1000% honest with you. I am a 44-year-old man. I would not marry a 20-year-old today because she would have a child like mentality. Wisdom I have that she won't get for at least a decade would drive me insane. I don't propagate old people marrying kids. I call to what God has revealed.

If kids today have to climb all over one another, make them get married. Why is this such an issue for people?

I'll tell you why, indoctrination. Years and decades of brainwashing moving society further and further away from what God sent down.

No one says a peep when a 15-year-old boy sleeps with a 13-year-old girl, in fact it is encouraged! But all hell breaks loose if that same boy wants to put a ring on that same girl's finger.

Idk where you're from, but America is absolutely godless today. I've seen the results. I know where it leads, and I will ALWAYS advocate marriage before fornication.

The ancient world saw 1 in 3 women dying in childbirth. 1 in 3. There's a reason that many cultures viewed childbirth as something heroic because it posed a great risk. You're a hypocrite. The same science that says homosexuality is harmful to men physically says that the safest time for women to give birth is late teens to late 20s. You're being intellectually dishonest. Moreover, a period is not the only sign of sexual maturity. I thought men were supposed to be attracted to signs of fertility? Breasts, hips, etc. Things that only develop during puberty (which is now starting earlier due to stress, obesity, chemicals). Most of society disapproves of children having sex with each other but knows it happens anyway. The solution is not to marry them off before they're adults. The solution is cultivating the same sexual discipline expected of chaste same sex attracted individuals. If sex is about more than just pleasure, then the responsibility of it needs to be fully realized. Children do not see sex as anything other than impulse. You're so hyper focused on sex that you ignore the other aspects of forging a healthy marriage that can be the bedrock of raising children. You're like an NPC.

 

[Drifter]

Why is this always the takeaway?

Its like I'm talking to myself and people are not even reading what I am typing. It's not Chinese people. It's plain everyday English. Just the topic is SO STIGMATIZED that any opponent to fornication brings instant hate.

Can't you see how brainwashed you are?

Go back and read what I said, then stop putting words in my mouth.

I have things to do, so don't expect a reply for some time. But Re-read what I have already said!

Brainwash is believing the natural innate impulse to have sex means you should just have sex and marry to make it permissable . You're the one with a carnal view of sex. But you expect gays to be forever celibate.

 

[Drifter]

Do you not know women have had children at young ages for 1000's of years? Serious question.

Many reject it today (as they do with most "unpleasant" news), but there are Christian sources that say Mary was 12 when Jesus was born.
I guess God wanted to endanger her life?


Proof that puberty has gotten earlier? Or is this more $cience?




Strawman. Being a Muslim, I'm against homosexuality.

Being a Muslim, I'm against fornication. Since a man can not marry a man in Islamic law, such a union can never exist. Homosexuality will always be fornication. Regardless of how many state sponsored documents they have reassuring them of their degeneracy.



I actually agree with this. My only problem with homosexuality is God has forbidden it. Yet when we look into it, we can see why. Such as STD's that only come from sodomy. Anal sex is even forbidden between a woman and a man for the same reasons.

Remember when I said God has only forbid what brings harm?




Let me be 1000% honest with you. I am a 44-year-old man. I would not marry a 20-year-old today because she would have a child like mentality. Wisdom I have that she won't get for at least a decade would drive me insane. I don't propagate old people marrying kids. I call to what God has revealed.

If kids today have to climb all over one another, make them get married. Why is this such an issue for people?

I'll tell you why, indoctrination. Years and decades of brainwashing moving society further and further away from what God sent down.

No one says a peep when a 15-year-old boy sleeps with a 13-year-old girl, in fact it is encouraged! But all hell breaks loose if that same boy wants to put a ring on that same girl's finger.

Idk where you're from, but America is absolutely godless today. I've seen the results. I know where it leads, and I will ALWAYS advocate marriage before fornication.

Oh and btw about Mary, Christian historians usually put her at 15 or 16 while Jewish sources only indicate the marriageable age for girls was 12 (to boys of similar age) even though consummation might've happened years later. Regardless, the immaculate conception is a weird instance to compare to regular conception anyway.

 

[Haich]

It was never satire. It was art imitating life. Young marriage is something William Shakespeare was surrounded with. It was a societal norm.

But I’m only replying to ask why you loathe it? Love stories are usually a feminine thing.

I absolutely hate love stories and anything romantic. There’s a weird Hollywood element to it. Plus R&J is just cringe, love at first sight then suicide at the alter? Ridiculous

 

[Haich]

I've come across quote a few academic sources that state otherwise.

I didn’t say there weren’t any, I just haven’t come across any. It would be interesting to read if you could post them.

 

[Drifter]

I didn’t say there weren’t any, I just haven’t come across any. It would be interesting to read if you could post them.

Ask and you shall receive. This one pretty accurately describes most of the points that hint at it being satire. Btw I was perhaps a little loose with saying EVERYONE knows it's satire. I think I personally and many people I've spoken to who had an interest in literature read it that way.

Why Romeo & Juliet is a Satire, Not a Love Story

Mixed up lovers—and mixed up critics

johnmcgee.substack.com

There's also been convos I've had with my own friends who did lit about contrasting the play with Shakespeare's other works about love (largely at odds with the contemporary views of lust and love at first sight which is the cornerstone of Romeo and Juliet) but that's an entirely different (though very interesting imo) topic. And btw I agree with you: I've also always detested the romance genre, or at least most mainstream entertainment about romance. Modern romance-fiction niches online are particularly egregious (Booktok for one).

 

[TempestOfTempo]

Everyone is explicit with their fantasies here. Time and place brother , sister or (it)

Nobody is more explicit with their fantasies than you fake Muslims though!

 

[TempestOfTempo]

It is quite clear what (not only, but to a large extent also it) is responsible for this tribal herd mentality among Muslims. Early pregnancies there are very common (maybe it is even a shame if a woman gives birth not very young? If she does not give birth as a child, is she a second hand?). So people are born massively underdeveloped, closer to the animal kingdom, and also because of this the herd mentality under an aggressively imposed religious dictatorship continues easy. (The dictatorial regime in the West is of a different type. But people are also smarter and elevated, so that a smarter dictatorship has to be used.)

Dont forget almost 1500 years of inbreeding.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

If nothing makes sense, when we all know a 5-year-old can understand it. Then why only quote one line from it?

I may be wrong on the Christian assumption, but you yourself say you're homosexual. So this would make you bias.

You can also say, me being a Muslim, my stance makes me bias.

But, as I have provided proof from the Quran and a scholarly board in Australia on the very first page. I would think that lends more credence to my position. If not let me know. I can certainly provide many voices and hadith concerning homosexuality in Islam.


Perhaps you can highlight exactly what doesn't make sense? How I mentioned the number 2 can never be 5, or how a sexually active person can never be a virgin? Where are you lost?

Please, enlighten us. Then we can go from there. As I have made it abundantly clear, homosexuality is forbidden in Islam, even though there are many "queer Muslims" in the US.

The majority of gay Muslims are in "Muslim" lands you ridiculous dolt.

 

[Daze]

Oh and btw about Mary, Christian historians usually put her at 15 or 16 while Jewish sources only indicate the marriageable age for girls was 12 (to boys of similar age) even though consummation might've happened years later. Regardless, the immaculate conception is a weird instance to compare to regular conception anyway.

I didn't know the Vatican was a Jewish source? Honestly, I am done with this. I advocate marriage over fornication, and people always walk away thinking I'm a p***phile. I'm tired of it.

Reject your own Christian history, reject your own scripture. God knows the truth and I will always call to what he sent down

The Bible is full of child marriage, but with uncomfortable truths...

Peace.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

Well, this is a first. I wonder how many would agree with this? Imagine, Romeo and Juliet being satire?

Besides, I don't need the example for reference to prove my point.

Here's a couple of Americans from not even a century ago.

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Here's a queen.
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Here's another queen.
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All these idiots have is "look at what others used to do... until they learned better and made it completely illegal!"

 

[TempestOfTempo]

The ancient world saw 1 in 3 women dying in childbirth. 1 in 3. There's a reason that many cultures viewed childbirth as something heroic because it posed a great risk. You're a hypocrite. The same science that says homosexuality is harmful to men physically says that the safest time for women to give birth is late teens to late 20s. You're being intellectually dishonest. Moreover, a period is not the only sign of sexual maturity. I thought men were supposed to be attracted to signs of fertility? Breasts, hips, etc. Things that only develop during puberty (which is now starting earlier due to stress, obesity, chemicals). Most of society disapproves of children having sex with each other but knows it happens anyway. The solution is not to marry them off before they're adults. The solution is cultivating the same sexual discipline expected of chaste same sex attracted individuals. If sex is about more than just pleasure, then the responsibility of it needs to be fully realized. Children do not see sex as anything other than impulse. You're so hyper focused on sex that you ignore the other aspects of forging a healthy marriage that can be the bedrock of raising children. You're like an NPC.

"The solution is cultivating the same sexual discipline expected of chaste same sex attracted individuals. If sex is about more than just pleasure, then the responsibility of it needs to be fully realized."
THIS.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

Why is this always the takeaway?

Its like I'm talking to myself and people are not even reading what I am typing. It's not Chinese people. It's plain everyday English. Just the topic is SO STIGMATIZED that any opponent to fornication brings instant hate.

Can't you see how brainwashed you are?

Go back and read what I said, then stop putting words in my mouth.

I have things to do, so don't expect a reply for some time. But Re-read what I have already said!

Shut it you filthy p***phile. You have been completely exposed, and you have completely exposed yourself.

 

[Daze]

Come back to copy / paste a quote and thread was hidden.



Imagine my shock, give the wife beater a chance to add his 2 cents.

 

[Drifter]

I didn't know the Vatican was a Jewish source? Honestly, I am done with this. I advocate marriage over fornication, and people always walk away thinking I'm a p***phile. I'm tired of it.

Reject your own Christian history, reject your own scripture. God knows the truth and I will always call to what he sent down

The Bible is full of child marriage, but with uncomfortable truths...

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Peace.

How convenient. Peace out.

Edit: it's the lack of intellectual honesty when it comes to claiming sources for Christianity agree with you, and the denial that little girls are not biologically ready to carry babies whether they have a period or not, AND the lack of maturity when it comes to conceptualizing relationships outside of sex that makes conversation with you absolutely boring. No nuance, no engagement, nothing at all.

 

[Daze]

How convenient. Peace out.

Not at all. It is clear what I say goes unheard. Are you telling us you'd talk to trees, even when it became clear they could only hear themselves?

Think you're the first who called me a predator for advocating marriage under 18? Even after I've repeatedly shown and proven it's in your own history and scripture?

What, do think it's not telling you completely ignored the evidence with Prophet Issac?


But the fact remains, child marriage was common, all throughout our entire history. Hardly was it confined to royal circles, as you have claimed. Go ahead, take a look into your own family tree.

Scared?

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Here's the kicker, teleport you back 100 years, and you'd have no problem whatsoever with it.

As i said, brainwashed.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

Come back to copy / paste a quote and thread was hidden.

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Imagine my shock, give the wife beater a chance to add his 2 cents.

Swears he is ignoring posters...yet cant quit stalking us. Cant quit lying. Wife beater? That lie was already exposed but your inbred, subhuman brains cant conjure up any new insults so when a fellow non-Muslim supplied you with that one... yall ran with it. Talk to your fellow fake-Muslim zakat about wife beating, hes the self-professed expert on these boards regarding the topic.

 

[Drifter]

Not at all. It is clear what I say goes unheard. Are you telling us you'd talk to trees, even when it became clear they could only hear themselves?

Think you're the first who called me a predator for advocating marriage under 18? Even after I've repeatedly shown and proven it's in your own history and scripture?

What, do think it's not telling you completely ignored the evidence with Prophet Issac?


But the fact remains, child marriage was common, all throughout our entire history. Hardly was it confined to royal circles, as you have claimed. Go ahead, take a look into your own family tree.

Scared?

Ancestry® | Family Tree, Genealogy & Family History Records

Ancestry® helps you understand your genealogy. A family tree takes you back generations—the world's largest collection of online family history records makes it easy to trace your lineage.

www.ancestry.com

Here's the kicker, teleport you back 100 years, and you'd have no problem whatsoever with it.

As i said, brainwashed.

A flat reading of the Bible has had people use the scriptures to do egregious things to people. What else is in there that's fairly common? Affairs, abuse, slavery. That being in there doesn't say anything about God's thoughts on it. But the Bible rarely speaks of age for anyone, let alone the female characters. Child marriage usually occurred between children or young adults. Whenever it was between a kid and a grown ass man. well...maybe take a look at the cultures in which those were common and see if you don't spot anything strange. No one in my family going back four generations married under 19. And nice for ignoring the medical evidence about young kids bodies, or the point about attraction to fertility markers. Are you as a man more attracted to a prepubescent nine year old or a twenty year old with curves?

Like I said, p3do.