You cannot belong to a sect AND be a real muslim.

[The Sojourner]

Are you a real muslim?

Are you a real muslim?

The word Muslim means “one who is true in faith” or simply “faithful”. That means being faithful to and obeying Allah/God, NOT men.

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The word Muslim means “one who is true in faith” or simply “faithful”. That means being faithful to and obeying Allah/God, NOT men.

If you are a Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Wahhabi, Salafi, Takfiri, or member of any other sect, Allah says you are NOT a Muslim, but are Kafir – Infidels/Unfaithful.

Holy Koran Suras:
6:159 As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou must have nothing whatsoever to do with it, even in the least: their affair is with “I AM”: in the end He will tell them the truth of all that they did.
11:17 Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses (the Torah) before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the Truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe!
23:52 And verily this Brotherhood of yours is a single Brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore fear Me (and no other).
23:53 But people have cut off their affair (of Unity), between them, into sects: each party rejoices in that which is with itself.
3:103 And hold fast, all together, by the rope which God (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude God’s favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the Pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth God make His Signs clear to you: that ye may be guided.
3:104 Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting all to that which is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: they are the ones to attain joy.
3:105 Be NOT like those who are divided amongst themselves and fall into disputations after receiving Clear Signs: for them is a dreadful Penalty,-

 

[A Freeman]

Sura 3:24. This because they say: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a few numbered days": for their forgeries deceive them as to their own religion.

The organized religion that deceitfully calls itself “Islam” should really be called “Hadithism”, as it is based upon the completely fabricated and self-contradictory writings of the hadith, which make a mockery of the Koran/Quran, Muhammad, and of God Himself (Gal. 6:7). Hadith worship is very obviously shirk which, as the Koran plainly and repeatedly states, is the UNFORGIVABLE sin (e.g. Sura 16:27-29; Sura 39:62-72), as it makes a partner of these made-up writings with the Word of God found in the Koran and in the Old Covenant/Testament and New Covenant/Testament that the Koran was sent to CONFIRM.

Committing shirk (aka blaspheming the Holy Spirit) is very obviously NOT doing God’s Will, and therefore can NEVER be referred to as “Islam”.

 

[Daze]

Interesting, a couple of non Muslims speaking for Muslims.

I didn't realize yahjokers knew Islam better then Muslims did.

 

[Lizard King]

In English shirk means to avoid responsibility.

 

[Vmort]

Sect is the sign of Hivites-- always was in Aryan culture too.

 

[The Sojourner]

Interesting, a couple of non Muslims speaking for Muslims.

I didn't realize yahjokers knew Islam better then Muslims did.

Perhaps it is because we like to spend our time studying the Holy Quran, the Holy Bible and The Way home or face The Fire, and striving to do as it says, instead of trying to find coherence in mountains of allegedly attributed writings, known as "hadith".

The Holy Quran clearly states that it is the only Hadith, that anyone ever needs to read. In what other hadith than this (Quran) will you believe?

May the Almighty guide you to the truth of this, if it be His Will (Islam).

 

[Daze]

Perhaps its because the devil is your guide?

As i told you before, to reject the hadith is to reject the prophet (saw). If you reject the prophet it is useless to quote the Quran.

As 90's has pointed out, you've probably never read a book of tasfir in your life. You literally have no idea what the Quran is telling you. You're no different then a laymen who picks it up and finds a few verses that are appealing to him.

Yes, I'm well aware this falls on deaf ears. I mean look where I'm at.

 

[The Sojourner]

Perhaps its because the devil is your guide?

As i told you before, to reject the hadith is to reject the prophet (saw). If you reject the prophet it is useless to quote the Quran.

As 90's has pointed out, you've probably never read a book of tasfir in your life. You literally have no idea what the Quran is telling you. You're no different then a laymen who picks it up and finds a few verses that are appealing to him.

Yes, I'm well aware this falls on deaf ears. I mean look where I'm at.

16:98 When thou dost read the Koran, seek “I AM”’s protection from Satan the Rejected One.

I believe that you are saying this, because what you have just been shown is proving your position and what you have been taught to be incorrect. You state that you believe you need to turn to another source to explain to you what he Koran is teaching, but that is against the teaching of the Quran, so perhaps it is you who need to ask yourself, where that guidance is coming from, since it is different than what Allah has sent down to you in His Quran.

If you believe that the Koran is incomplete and needs the Hadiths and men to explain it to you, then you do not believe Allah and thus are not a Muslim.

Holy Koran Suras:
41:3 A Book, whereof the verses are explained in detail;- a Koran in Arabic, for people who understand;-
41:4 Giving Good News and Warning: yet most of them turn away, and so they hear not.
43:2 By the Book that makes things clear,-
43:3 We have made it a Koran in Arabic, that ye may be able to understand (and learn Wisdom).
16:98 When thou dost read the Koran, seek “I AM”’s protection from Satan the Rejected One.
16:99 No authority has he over those who believe and put their trust in their Lord.
16:100 His authority is only over those, who take him as patron and who join partners with “I AM”.

But what you have said is actually just showing, that what has been shared with you is actually on the mark.

Perhaps you should also ask why it is, that you feel that you need to turn to men and tafsir in order to explain to you what Allah has said in His Quran, as the article above has made clear.

 

[Daze]

16:98 When thou dost read the Koran, seek “I AM”’s protection from Satan the Rejected One.

I believe that you are saying this, because what you have just been shown is proving your position and what you have been taught to be incorrect. You state that you believe you need to turn to another source to explain to you what he Koran is teaching, but that is against the teaching of the Quran, so perhaps it is you who need to ask yourself, where that guidance is coming from, since it is different than what Allah has sent down to you in His Quran.

If you believe that the Koran is incomplete and needs the Hadiths and men to explain it to you, then you do not believe Allah and thus are not a Muslim.

Holy Koran Suras:
41:3 A Book, whereof the verses are explained in detail;- a Koran in Arabic, for people who understand;-
41:4 Giving Good News and Warning: yet most of them turn away, and so they hear not.
43:2 By the Book that makes things clear,-
43:3 We have made it a Koran in Arabic, that ye may be able to understand (and learn Wisdom).
16:98 When thou dost read the Koran, seek “I AM”’s protection from Satan the Rejected One.
16:99 No authority has he over those who believe and put their trust in their Lord.
16:100 His authority is only over those, who take him as patron and who join partners with “I AM”.

But what you have said is actually just showing, that what has been shared with you is actually on the mark.

Perhaps you should also ask why it is, that do you feel that you need to turn to men and tafsir in order to explain to you what Allah has said in His Quran, as the article above has made clear.

I'm not surprised you spell it Koran.

Its قرآن !

Spelled with a ق, a Q sound! Not ك.

But i doubt you can read anything outside of لاسلم عليكم

You quoting the Quran is like an atheist quoting the Bible.

 

[AspiringSoul]

I don't believe the idea that the 'Quran is so complete it explains itself and no outside knowledge is required'
Chapter 17, al isra is jerusalem centric without ever mentioning jerusalem in name. in just a few verses, it covers a simple version of jewish history, the destruction of 2 temples etc. Yet if you absorb the content in the bible aswell as other parts of history like the maccabean revolt (book of Maccabees) then it adds so much depth.
the Quran tells people to ponder and look for signs, clues etc.

with that said...a lot of muslims, are too dangerous to think for themselves. they come out with high level shit, some of them.

 

[Alanantic]

"This place is a dream. Only a sleeper considers it real. Then death comes like dawn, and you wake up laughing at what you thought was your grief." ~ Rumi

 

[A Freeman]

I'm not surprised you spell it Koran.

Its قرآن !

Spelled with a ق, a Q sound! Not ك.

But i doubt you can read anything outside of لاسلم عليكم

You quoting the Quran is like an atheist quoting the Bible.

It's not surprising that you now wish to argue over the spelling, as if Koran somehow wasn't the standard translation into English for most if not all of the 20th century, before being changed to Quran (Qur'an) in the press. It's a frequently used technique employed by people to deflect attention away from their obvious errors, so they don't have to face them and thus can continue repeating them. The same goes for your false analogy with atheism, as if the Koran/Quran somehow isn't an invitation/calling to ALL mankind.

Sura 3:1-3
3:1. A. L. M. (Almighty. Loving. Merciful.)
3:2. Allah (God). There is no God but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing (YHWH - "I AM"), Eternal.
3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Koran, confirming what went before it and He sent down The Law (of Moses) and The Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down The Criterion (of Judgment between right and wrong).

Sura 14:52. Here is a Message for mankind: let them take warning therefrom, and let them know that He is (no other than) One God: let men of understanding take heed.

Sura 21:109. But if they turn back, say: "I have proclaimed the Message to you ALL (all of mankind) equally and in Truth; but I know not whether that which ye are promised is near or far.

Sura 68:51
68:51. And the Unbelievers would almost trip thee up with their eyes when they hear the Message; and they say: "Surely he is possessed!"
68:52. But it is nothing less than a Message to all the worlds.

There are ZERO references in the Koran/Quran telling anyone that they can expect some sort of special biographical book about Muhammad to be written hundreds of years later, elevating the messenger above the message itself, which obviously contradicts the core message in the Koran/Quran.

Conversely, there are over three dozen references in the Koran/Quran plainly telling its readers that they MUST read The Law (found only in the Old Covenant of the Bible) and the Gospel (found only in the New Covenant of the Bible), which the Koran/Quran was sent to CONFIRM, and to NOT be in doubt of them (The Law and the Gospel).

Sura 2:53, 2:87-93, 2:97-98, 3:1-3, 3:48-50, 4:47, 4:54, 5:46-51, 6:91-94, 6:154-157, 7:157, 9:111, 10:37, 11:17, 12:111, 15:9-10, 17:2-4, 21:48, 22:52, 23:20, 23:49, 25:35, 28:1-3, 32:23, 35:25-32, 37:117, 40:53, 40:70, 41:45, 42:14-17, 45:16, 46:12, 46:30, 48:29, 53:36-47, 57:25-29, 61:6-7, 78:2

So what do "Muslims" do? They ignore what it says in the Koran/Quran, and choose instead to commit shirk, by becoming hadith-worshipers. And then they hypocritically berate "Christians" for being man-worshipers, while they themselves worship the COMPLETELY FABRICATED STORIES ABOUT AN ARAB MAN NAMED MUHAMMAD WHICH ARE FOUND NOWHERE IN THE KORAN/QURAN.

Instead of having a knee-jerk reaction to the TRUTH, why not instead humbly consider the facts, being shared with you and all who have been taken in by the false religion that deceitfully calls itself "Islam", that is condemned in the Koran/Quran?

Anyone who is in any of the sects that make up "Islam" is still in a sect, whether they admit it or not.