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e-Enoch

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This video of Jungkook is also sped up, they don’t even care about the bad editing. Something like this shouldn’t even be allowed to „leak”. It’s disrespectful.




This is not how a man should dance. This is a gay dude acting like a girl, but comments are applauding his "femininity".

http://instagr.am/p/CvKSIIopXfx/


This lady has more power

http://instagr.am/p/CuadwXOuBxx/
Jk is also referred to now as "GCG". What does it mean?
 
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Since you seem to be newer to this forum - people who have been here for years, before I deleted my posts, know that I often offered analysis and answered questions to help people view things from the perspective of a person who works with real musicians and dancers.

It's not about the fact that Ed Sheeran doesn't look like Chris Pine . Many of the interesting, intelligent, and powerful people are not physically on the "pretty" side. I do not care how a person looks, it's who they are and what they do. That's what makes a person interesting and of value.

Ed Sheeran's hits are stolen. The fact that he won his lawsuit is sad, and so is the situation with Beyonce who never had one song, choreography, or video not stolen from someone else. She also won one or the other lawsuits when someone dared to sue the queen of the elite's shitty project. In Drunk'n Love not just that they stole someone else's music, they simply stole her ENTIRE recording from CD, added some effects, and didn't care, that it is someone else's music, work, voice, recording, time. It was a singer from Europe

I don't listen to Ed's boring songs, he can't play guitar, nor is he a singer, Namjoon and Hobi have more of a better and interesting voice than his, maybe he should stick to writing/stealing songs and not performing.

There are people in my profession that know much more than I do, I listen and learn from them, one of those I am looking up to was posted here by me. It was through her that I have discovered things like



Chet Baker was not even a singer, but his voice at minute 5 is better than anything going on now.

We then have Ed Sheeran's stolen song and autotuned voice.



The reason I mentioned his looks, is because everything in this agenda spins around looks. By looks I mean the Lizzo overweightness, to tattooed, unhealthy-looking people, drug addicts, drunks, twerking, You have the "boy next door" look. Shabby, fatty, not the "cool" "pretty" Justin type with muscles.
In this case, his looks are much more of a deal, than in the case of Justin. Seemingly not preoccupied with his fat body, but yet obsessed enough to get tattoos so that people look at him. This is hypocrisy.
People who don't care about their looks in a superficial way, don't get tattoos on their bodies. In this business (music, media, etc) you get tattoos primarily for attention, we are dealing with attention-seeking people, with nothing to offer, who don't work, don't study, don't do much in their time, so people concentrate on your looks, on the outside, on the superficial.
The fact that Ed Sheeran isn't the cute boy type, is because his entire success is based on his looks, the anti-cute-type. Do you think that his "I just woke up with the hair messed up" look, isn't the product of an equally extended amount of time, as BTS"s makeup?

Him writing his own lyrics based on his life experience means nothing, professionally speaking. In music school, everyone has to do daily exercises like this. This is what you do in English courses, french courses, romanian courses. You have to write poems. Maybe it sounds interesting to say it is based on personal experience, that's what everyone is selling, it is the product that counts.

Phil Collins had good songs.
The success of the Beatles and many other bands/singers from that time, was related to CIA/USA pushing people and bands to promote their politics. Geffen Records was built on that.

Maybe Ed Sheeran didn't steal Marvin Gaye's song. Often in classical music things sound the same, without being stolen.
But Ed Sheeran had too many incidents of things that sounded much too similar to other songs.
Pop songs, even jazz songs, are usually based on the same few harmonies, naturally, they will have similarities.

He just steals. Like Beyonce, Amy Winehouse's producer, and many others, the crown of them all being Beyonce, Jay Z and Bruno Mars, who's producer of his stolen songs is the same as Amy Winehouse's.

Taehyung was always the thin type, there are different body types and people put on fat in different places. Taheyung puts fat around his stomach first, then his arms. He doesn't look malnourished, he is just skinny looking. I don't know now if he's eating healthy or not, but he looks as he always does when he's not overeating. The issue I am having is with him trying to be muscular with no exercise and then showing off what he might think it is muscles. By the way, I've seen comments of people noticing how he just sits there trying to show off his muscles. Comments made by his own fans

http://instagr.am/p/CvXpiKjIjys/
I trained this week my arms, just coincidentally. I have more muscles than Taheyung. As a woman with health issues.

Yeah, muscles look good. But you have to train.

I liked "less handsome" Jungkook after I got bored by "handsome" Taehyung trying to be funny. Jungkook I am put off by Jungkook's obsession with his looks and visible health issues.

Since I don't follow Ed Sheeran, I was not aware that he is having tattoos. I saw his video and laughed because for someone that young to still have too many pounds of fat, to not be concerned about it, but concerned about looking "cool" with tattoos, is pretty dumb.

It's not about weight, it's about the dangers of fat and how governments ignore the issue of it. Extra fat, is fat that your body does not need and causes inflammation.


Thank you for such a detailed response.
I am not new on this forum/site - I have been following and reading it since 2015, and followed the BTS thread since its inception.
I just never felt a need to comment to be honest.
A lot of comments here are valid but a lot of times certain topics are being judged simply because of ignorance, like there was one post a few years ago where the members were blasted for their behavior but it was actually a common custom in Korea.

The post about weight, tattoos, etc- it's really irrelevant to the topic. People get tattoos for many reasons- some like the way it makes them look (I feel like with JK, he probably got them because he got tired of being looked at as "a baby bunny" and thought getting tattoos would make him more manly. Can you really blame him? Is being incecure or trying to change your looks a crime now?
He did go overboard with it, but again- it's not that serious. I would be more concerned about the type of tattoos he got - e.g. like that evil looking red eye or devil's horns. But looks like he got it covered not long ago.)

People also get tattoos to commemorate something that happened in their life. I mean, there are so many reasons to be honest, and it doesn't aleays mean that people are insecure or evil.

The comment about that TH should not be wearing sleeveless shirt just because he has no big muscles is silly. Seriously? Where does it say that people with no muscles can't wear this? It's summer, it's hot, he probably wanted to wear something he is comfortable in.

The shirt is not a concern. He does look a bit malnourished in the face (maybe because of the video filter he used) but I would be more concerned that he went blond again , right in time for his upcoming promos.

Speaking about Ed, to be honest, I don't care. He can do whatever he wants - tattoos, messed up hair, he is an artist, and he has a certain image to upkeep. Whether you like his music or not, it's a personal preference, and that's ok.
I am not a fan but I did go to his concert with friends when he came to town - and I was impressed. He played the guitar and sang well for over 2 hours without interruption. It was literally just him on stage, no dancers , no costume changes, nothing extra. And yet he was able to keep everyone engaged and people were enjoying the show.
He put on a good show.

Caring about looks is a shallow behavior that became very common nowadays. I wish people paid more attention to other details instead of talking about who has muscles.
 
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Scooter finally posted something about the song trending in its second week, though no direct congratulation, but somehow I remembered the dubious stories about Justin, Scooter and Usher


Jungkook’s fresh TikTok account is following 3 girl groups out of 9 accounts.

Seems also that he started with the punk ass behavior of constantly showing the tongue and he liked a Mingyu compilation on Twitter.
His Mingyu obsession has become a bit weird.


There was a time when he looked more like a dancer

 

boti

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Taehyung's album is going to be handled by that woman with pedophilic work. Another person existing only because of BTS's fame, while now acting as if she did him a favour.



She was apparently "hesitant".


Taehyung requesting her...yeah. As if he has a saying. They are just using his name to promote another pedo.

Equally obvious is the news itself. Nobody cares about who's working on their album. Nobody knows - and it shouldn't be in the news - who has worked on Adele's, Nikki Minaj's, Drake's etc...albums. Not in this fashion.
They are CONTINUOUSLY using BTS member to gain attention and importance, as if they are equal. No they aren't. They only exist because of BTS. Nobody would ever read an article, except about the pedophilic nature, about this woman, or pdogg , etc.
 

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Army is now going to defend her ugh. She know's what she's doing. Just remember as weird/creepy as she is, she's not the only one, other producers and executives can be abusive but are better at maintaining their image.
 

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Watching the video with the lyrics in front of me, I have to say, that this is one of the worst lyrics of a song, I've ever encountered. Besides being disgusting, it's a mild attempt to bring inappropriate context to younger people. You give meaning to my life, which is why I am going to fuck you all night.
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If we talk FUCK songs, then here we are. That's appropriate in context. Not a lousy cowardly attempt and reducing women to something we aren't.
p.s. everything good related to the music in closer is also stolen...so basically we're left with the lyrics.

 

boti

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Who is she?


Quora has so much content regarding kpop rumors. What I've seen about rumors related to bt*, mostly saesangs info about JK and JM was about them being fu**boys.Madeup or not, but there must be some truth to it I believe.

Funny thing is in Suchwita, Suga offered JK to write a song for him and I find his response quite arrogant cuz whatever garbage he is being promoting, last song "Stay Alive" was a decent song produced by Suga for JK. I know Suga wants this for his own good but still, It must be better than this fu**ery.


Also to mention how much he enjoys "that that"

What started as a joke, him acting as "cool", went up to his head. Insecure people develop this kind of behavior, becoming unpleasant.
It's so weird when the timeline is filled with both images from the past, as well as recent ones, and next to each other are two different people.

http://instagr.am/p/CvcoHowNf1i/
http://instagr.am/p/Cvc170QuYwr/
plus your video.

....let's not start with snake Yoongi..Haha.

Him being so hyper active are psych meds. They make you hyper "happy" and hyper "sad".

As far as the rumor goes, he is either an innocent person (if you've seen all the staff videos with him), or a fucked up guy, whose parents did a very bad job at raising.
It was quite heavy staff flirtation, while he was still in his early teen years.
The only videos of other members flirting with the staff is Taehyung with that girl with no panties on

and Jimin with Nicole


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxjW6PJF-44
https://youtu.be/5pz62mpmprc?t=249

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epjzeXTWFrg&t=108s (Jimin and Nicole at around 2:40)

I've said it in the past, there is a huge amount of Jungkook videos flirting, none with the others, except the two shared here of Taehyung and Jimin and the one with Taehyung fake sneezing while the staff was applying make up.
 
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boti

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AI jimin sounds better than real Jimin ;)


But its so wrong at so many levels like if its in hybe's hand, they might've replaced real humans but the thing is armies are attached to real humans whatever illusion they represent. That's why they flock to every platform whenever they might get a chance to get connected to that person (insert Jk tiktok saga) I wonder what future holds for AI and art?

Oohhh.. I believe army would take ANY version of them. Including AI.
From my (professional) perspective, we are experiencing a terrible time, as this is blantaly illegal and also a huge invasion of privacy.



 

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I'm not defending YG though, its just I found JK acting "superior" weird. Confidence is good but being bawdy or rude is not. Their rapline has also contributed a lot in terms of creative output if not in terms of looks and popularity.
Regarding him being innocent, I don't believe that. I don't see people in black and white, its not only staffers but there might be other people, idols whom he/they been messing around and yeah I believe that he was groomed by staffers. But I'm pointing out picking such a song shows his taste. I also think that how hybe has launched too many young girl groups, who knows what goes behind the scenes or when they use to tour on concerts, there are too many stories/rumors on internet.
Sadly yes to everything you wrote.
I am limited in my exemplification and can only rely on the videos available, but since there is evidence of these recordings, God knows what goes behind the stage with people from their surroundings. Either pdog route, Mingyu, tattooed gang, trainees, etc..

Though inoffensive at first sight, that LA recordings of them with the girl staffers dancing all together was an alarm sign to me. I know how those things go. I've seen it in my circle, better said former circle, with people not even famous. It wasn't even a circle of people from "dark" secret gangs. People from this media environment, staff and "artists", colleagues, etc...working and...fucking together.
That short video gave me the same vibe. There isn't something that can be explained in words. To me, seeing the videos so far is bad enough to know what I'm dealing with, since it is a known atmosphere to me.

Armys and their fans are only making things worse, by claiming it is nothing. Of course it is. This is inappropriate contact. The boss partying with the secretaries. Not even that. Lower than the secretary. This in a country of strict values, where engaging in physical contact with the opposite sex is viewed as inappropriate (let's not forget how praised they were for their manners when they came to America), they are hella touchy with girls.
As a side note - I am sure they only kept their Korean manners in America during their first visits, to avoid a sexual harassment lawsuit.

But then again the hypocrisy - Jungkook taking pictures with fans, hugging them, while using manners with that presenter from BBC.
Very nice, but unless consistency is applied, all I get is a false image to the public.
 

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Yes 100%, I've seen so many videos of Korean females describing average men in Korea that how entitled they act in clubs and in general. Now these men are from Korea,(not being racist but mindset and culture influences) are worshipped heavily by millions of girls, with availability of drugs and booze, its a recipe for disaster. You know yourself better because you've been into industry as you said but to an average bystander can guess that these men are not innocent entirely. Birds of a feather flock together. But I also feel a hint of innocence still from the silly things he does, that's an entirely different thing. I think no human is entirely bad with exceptions. The armies are also clout chasers so they do these things, its like a little ecosystem of ignorance. Like JK liking a single video increases viewpoints massively in minutes, he has now hid his liked videos so he wants attention, but his fans wants his attention plus the general hype, that's why stupid things chart on billboards duh.

I suspect TikTok was planned for a fee by BigHit paired with some freedom for him to do whatever he wants.
They (all 7) must have had a deal first with YouTube, then instagram now TikTok.
Last time I checked, a Chinese company was one of the major shareholders of bighit, so it makes sense for them to want to promote TikTok, especially with the warnings related to the privacy issues and their data leak.

Like you said - in the end is still his taste to choose and even defend the “dirty” version. He was quite aggressive in his defensive tone.
There are only so many things that can be attributed to/ blamed on bighit.

Whatever his crisis is, so far it has produced only bad things.
 

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While this is better than Jungkook’s version, it’s also edited and recorded in a slower tempo.


Even more edited






Welcome to BTS’s earnings

https://www.kedglobal.com/entertainment/newsView/ked202307040020

It goes without saying that it isn’t Hybe/BugHit. It is BTS


Before

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/05/k-pop-stocks-hybe-sm-entertainment-fall-on-reports-of-antitrust-probe.html


After

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/hybe-share-price-bounces-3-after-jungkook-breaks-spotify-record-with-nearly-16m-debut-day-global-streams-of-seven/


interesting



https://m.koreaherald.com/amp/view.php?ud=20230731000524

https://www.sustainalytics.com/esg-rating/hybe-co-ltd/2003550100

 
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e-Enoch

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Quoting from the article...

"'HYBE seems to lack a sense of business ethics, considering tacit agreements in the advertising industry,' one internet user said."


 

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While this is better than Jungkook’s version, it’s also edited and recorded in a slower tempo.


Even more edited






Welcome to BTS’s earnings

https://www.kedglobal.com/entertainment/newsView/ked202307040020

It goes without saying that it isn’t Hybe/BugHit. It is BTS


Before

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/05/k-pop-stocks-hybe-sm-entertainment-fall-on-reports-of-antitrust-probe.html


After

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/hybe-share-price-bounces-3-after-jungkook-breaks-spotify-record-with-nearly-16m-debut-day-global-streams-of-seven/


interesting



https://m.koreaherald.com/amp/view.php?ud=20230731000524

https://www.sustainalytics.com/esg-rating/hybe-co-ltd/2003550100

This is actually a very sad news...

This report on Jk's "overhyped" single implies that this filthy song is now playing in the heads and lives of tens of millions of people in the world...

And many clueless kids are "consuming" it as well...

Jungkook is "instrumental" in dragging more people to hell due to his immoral influences...

 
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