Black Metal and Death Metal

00kpop00

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I'm a metal elitist dude who is also deep into kpop and jpop, and I have listened to death metal and black metal for 15 years. I am a metalhead first and foremost.

For non-metalheads who don't know the differences between death metal and black metal,

Death metal:
• has drop C to G# guitar tuning (the brutal death metal band Devourment dropped down to E on their latest album Obscene Majesty)
• has low pitched growling (but Chuck Schuldiner from the band Death used high pitched screams)
• the subgenre melodic death metal uses high pitched screams
• has good production
• is "heavy and brutal"
• is primarily focused lyrically on death, blood and gore, murder and killing (there is a subgenre called Brutal Death Metal (BDM)), perversions and depravity, horror, antichristianity, the occult and and Satanism (only some bands are Satanic)
• uses 7 string to 12 string guitars (usually 7, Viraemia used a 12 string once)
• uses frequent palm muting and "chugging" as a playing style
• the technicality of death metal ranges from simple to extremely technical, virtuoso technicality
• focuses less overall as a subgenre on creating moods and emotions, is less atmospheric than black metal although there is atmospheric death metal with early Septicflesh and experimental death metal like Portal


Black metal:
• has standard guitar tuning or tuned up to F#
• has primarily high pitched screams (although Hate Forest uses death metal growls)
• has purposely very thin, shrill, staticky, very bad production lacking low end (little to no "bass")
• is "sharp, atmospheric, thin, icy, cold, and raw"
• black metal's main lyrical theme is Satanism (this is THE "satanic" genre of metal) but not all of it, artists talk about other occult paths (like the path of Set and other gods/deities/spirits/demons), paganism (and viking battles, there is a subgenre called viking black metal)), nihilism, antichristianity, misanthropy and hatred, depression/loneliness and pain and suicide (there is a subgenre called Depressive Suicidal Black Metal (DSBM)), only some songs about murder, war and genocide, nature (storms, atmospheres, winter), (and there is even a racist subgenre called National Socialist Black Metal (NSBM))
• uses standard 6 string guitars
• uses tremolo picking as a primary playing style, and uses accents and open notes frequently
• THIS is the subgenre, and only subgenre of metal to use corpsepaint (makeup)
• is less technical musically than death metal, is simpler in riffs to create an atmosphere and mood and/or emotion
• has an overall greater range of moods than death metal

Black metal and death metal can mix together to form the subgenres black/death metal, war metal and blackened death metal. I will discuss these three subgenres in a separate post.

Please go to

metal-archives.com

and in the search bar in the upper right corner, search for bands, bands by country, bands by genre and lyrical themes.

If you type in "satanism" with the option "lyrical themes", a list of bands will come up with those lyrical themes.

For example, the death metal band Deicide and the black metal band Beastcraft focus on Satanism.

If a band doesn't show up, then that band is either not considered metal enough or has not been added to the metal-archives encyclopedia.

If any metalhead finds anything I missed, please let me know!

Maybe I was under the spell that "it's all music and entertainment", but I realized all of the dark occultism in black metal and death metal, is all actually real, as are demons, and no, this music isn't just entertainment.
 
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I'm a metal elitist dude who is also deep into kpop and jpop, and I have listened to death metal and black metal for 15 years. I am a metalhead first and foremost.

For non-metalheads who don't know the differences between death metal and black metal,

Death metal:
• has drop C to G# guitar tuning (the brutal death metal band Devourment dropped down to E on their latest album)
• has low pitched growling (but Chuck Schuldiner from the band Death used high pitched screams)
• the subgenre melodic death metal uses high pitched screams
• has good production
• is "heavy and brutal"
• is primarily focused lyrically on death, blood and gore, murder and killing (there is a subgenre called Brutal Death Metal (BDM)), perversions and depravity, horror, antichristianity, the occult and and Satanism (only some bands are Satanic)
• uses 7 string to 12 string guitars (usually 7, Viraemia used a 12 string once)
• uses frequent palm muting and "chugging" as a playing style
• the technicality of death metal ranges from simple to extremely technical, virtuoso technicality
• focuses less overall as a subgenre on creating moods and emotions, is less atmospheric than black metal although there is atmospheric death metal with early Septicflesh and experimental death metal like Portal


Black metal:
• has standard guitar tuning or tuned up to F#
• has primarily high pitched screams (although Hate Forest uses death metal growls)
• has purposely very thin, shrill, staticky, very bad production lacking low end (little to no "bass")
• is "sharp, atmospheric, thin, icy, cold, and raw"
• black metal's main lyrical theme is Satanism (this is THE "satanic" genre of metal) but not all of it, artists talk about other occult paths (like the path of Set and other gods/deities/spirits/demons), paganism (and viking battles, there is a subgenre called viking black metal)), nihilism, antichristianity, misanthropy and hatred, depression/loneliness and pain and suicide (there is a subgenre called Depressive Suicidal Black Metal (DSBM)), only some songs about murder, war and genocide, nature (storms, atmospheres, winter), (and there is even a racist subgenre called National Socialist Black Metal (NSBM))
• uses standard 6 string guitars
• uses tremolo picking as a primary playing style, and uses accents and open notes frequently
• THIS is the subgenre, and only subgenre of metal to use corpsepaint (makeup)
• is less technical musically than death metal, is simpler in riffs to create an atmosphere and mood and/or emotion
• has an overall greater range of moods than death metal

Black metal and death metal can mix together to form the subgenres black/death metal, war metal and blackened death metal. I will discuss these three subgenres in a separate post.

Please go to

metal-archives.com

and in the search bar in the upper right corner, search for bands, bands by country, bands by genre and lyrical themes.

If you type in "satanism" with the option "lyrical themes", a list of bands will come up with those lyrical themes.

For example, the death metal band Deicide and the black metal band Beastcraft focus on Satanism.

If a band doesn't show up, then that band is either not considered metal enough or has not been added to the metal-archives encyclopedia.

If any metalhead finds anything I missed, please let me know!

Maybe I was under the spell that "it's all music and entertainment", but I realized all of the dark occultism in black metal and death metal, is all actually real, as are demons, and no, this music isn't just entertainment.
Do you know of any backmasking that has taken place with the black metal and/or death metal genre?
 

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I'm a metal elitist dude who is also deep into kpop and jpop, and I have listened to death metal and black metal for 15 years. I am a metalhead first and foremost.

For non-metalheads who don't know the differences between death metal and black metal,

Death metal:
• has drop C to G# guitar tuning (the brutal death metal band Devourment dropped down to E on their latest album)
• has low pitched growling (but Chuck Schuldiner from the band Death used high pitched screams)
• the subgenre melodic death metal uses high pitched screams
• has good production
• is "heavy and brutal"
• is primarily focused lyrically on death, blood and gore, murder and killing (there is a subgenre called Brutal Death Metal (BDM)), perversions and depravity, horror, antichristianity, the occult and and Satanism (only some bands are Satanic)
• uses 7 string to 12 string guitars (usually 7, Viraemia used a 12 string once)
• uses frequent palm muting and "chugging" as a playing style
• the technicality of death metal ranges from simple to extremely technical, virtuoso technicality
• focuses less overall as a subgenre on creating moods and emotions, is less atmospheric than black metal although there is atmospheric death metal with early Septicflesh and experimental death metal like Portal


Black metal:
• has standard guitar tuning or tuned up to F#
• has primarily high pitched screams (although Hate Forest uses death metal growls)
• has purposely very thin, shrill, staticky, very bad production lacking low end (little to no "bass")
• is "sharp, atmospheric, thin, icy, cold, and raw"
• black metal's main lyrical theme is Satanism (this is THE "satanic" genre of metal) but not all of it, artists talk about other occult paths (like the path of Set and other gods/deities/spirits/demons), paganism (and viking battles, there is a subgenre called viking black metal)), nihilism, antichristianity, misanthropy and hatred, depression/loneliness and pain and suicide (there is a subgenre called Depressive Suicidal Black Metal (DSBM)), only some songs about murder, war and genocide, nature (storms, atmospheres, winter), (and there is even a racist subgenre called National Socialist Black Metal (NSBM))
• uses standard 6 string guitars
• uses tremolo picking as a primary playing style, and uses accents and open notes frequently
• THIS is the subgenre, and only subgenre of metal to use corpsepaint (makeup)
• is less technical musically than death metal, is simpler in riffs to create an atmosphere and mood and/or emotion
• has an overall greater range of moods than death metal

Black metal and death metal can mix together to form the subgenres black/death metal, war metal and blackened death metal. I will discuss these three subgenres in a separate post.

Please go to

metal-archives.com

and in the search bar in the upper right corner, search for bands, bands by country, bands by genre and lyrical themes.

If you type in "satanism" with the option "lyrical themes", a list of bands will come up with those lyrical themes.

For example, the death metal band Deicide and the black metal band Beastcraft focus on Satanism.

If a band doesn't show up, then that band is either not considered metal enough or has not been added to the metal-archives encyclopedia.

If any metalhead finds anything I missed, please let me know!

Maybe I was under the spell that "it's all music and entertainment", but I realized all of the dark occultism in black metal and death metal, is all actually real, as are demons, and no, this music isn't just entertainment.
You might enjoy this thread @00kpop00

 

00kpop00

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Do you know of any backmasking that has taken place with the black metal and/or death metal genre?
I'm sure there is but I haven't investigated backmasking for the black metal and death metal genres. I will investigate it, thank you.

Also, if the message is satanic, the message is straightforward, forward, and explicit and backmasking isn't required.
 

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I'm sure there is but I haven't investigated backmasking for the black metal and death metal genres. I will investigate it, thank you.

Also, if the message is satanic, the message is straightforward, forward, and explicit and backmasking isn't required.
Would there then not be any backmasking within the black metal and death metal genre, since both of those genres are openly satanic?
 

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Also, if the message is satanic, the message is straightforward, forward, and explicit and backmasking isn't required.
You'd be surprised, older black metal like Black Sabbath has it. Led Zepplin is famous for back masking.. but idk if you'd consider them death metal today. Society has degraded so what was hardcore yesterday isn't today.

The problem with back masking is the message is hidden. It goes straight to the subconscious and is easier to accept. It never reaches the critical mind where it can be questioned.

If the music is evil to begin with, then the hidden message is likely worse. Raping your mother, killing kids, scat, ect.

Satanism is about as evil as you can get while the Almighty told us the devil is a clear and open enemy.
"Surely Satan is an enemy to you, so take him as an enemy. He only invites his followers to become inmates of the Blaze." (35:6 Quran)

If you take the devil for a friend in this life expect him to disown you on judgement day. He will say, " I fear God and did nothing but invite you, you are on your own"

Feel free to listen to your music backwards, this is easily done in the modern age. Its the only way you can be sure, but if your listening to satanic music to begin with.. you got bigger issues as it attracts evil djinn. Once a demon locks on it can be for life.
 
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You'd be surprised, older black metal like Black Sabbath has it. Led Zepplin is famous for back masking.. but idk if you'd consider them death metal today. Society has degraded so what was hardcore yesterday isn't today.

The problem with back masking is the message is hidden. It goes straight to the subconscious and is easier to accept. It never reaches the critical mind where it can be questioned.

If the music is evil to begin with, then the hidden message is likely worse. Raping your mother, killing kids, scat, ect.

Satanism is about as evil as you can get while the Almighty told us the devil is a clear and open enemy.
"Surely Satan is an enemy to you, so take him as an enemy. He only invites his followers to become inmates of the Blaze." (35:6 Quran)

If you take the devil for a friend in this life expect him to disown you on judgement day. He will say, " I fear God and did nothing but invite you, you are on your own"

Feel free to listen to your music backwards, this is easily done in the modern age. Its the only way you can be sure, but if your listening to satanic music to begin with.. you got bigger issues as it attracts evil djinn. Once a demon locks on it can be for life.
Yeah there was this theory about their most popular single "stairway to heaven" as how there were hidden messages backmasked "here's to my sweet Satan..."
 
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Yeah there was this theory about their most popular single "stairway to heaven" as how there were hidden messages backmasked "here's to my sweet Satan..."
This reply may be more relevant in the "return if the gods" thread mentioned before, but as i understand stariway to heaven is about diana/inana/ishatar/isis "the may queen"
 
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Exodus and Slayer should be mentioned. I have 3 songs by Slayer on Rock Band and get an evil feeling when I have played them. Also Slayer has album called South of Heaven. Let's not forget Pantera. They were putting out such bad vibes that the lead guitarist, Dime Bag Darrell, was actually shot on stage and killed. Apparently the guy that shot him couldn't handle it. I have an album by a band called Helloween.
 
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This reply may be more relevant in the "return if the gods" thread mentioned before, but as i understand stariway to heaven is about diana/inana/ishatar/isis "the may queen"
Frankly speaking, I don't know about all these dieties or that theory about Led Zepplin song in detail. I watched a documentary few years back about popular songs of Jay-Z and other artists using back masking to hide sinister messages in songs . There was a huge part dedicated to this song about masses getting first aware that how music is promoting Satanism. If I do remember correctly, there was mention of a house effected by fires that was once inhabited by Crowley and later by Led Zepplin guitarist.
 
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Exodus and Slayer should be mentioned. I have 3 songs by Slayer on Rock Band and get an evil feeling when I have played them. Also Slayer has album called South of Heaven. Let's not forget Pantera. They were putting out such bad vibes that the lead guitarist, Dime Bag Darrell, was actually shot on stage and killed. Apparently the guy that shot him couldn't handle it. I have an album by a band called Helloween.
Destroy it if it gives you evil vibes. I do believe Music effects soul. My anxiety get worsened by loud music specially if I listened to Nirvana songs in the past.
 
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Here is this thing,there is a scene in Stranger Things season 4 episode where a character name Eddie Munson played "Master of puppets" by Metallica which lured those demi-bats (a demon variant probably) towards him. That scene got insanely popular and is my favourite too. I wonder what's on those notes, also to mention his character was demonized by their town to spread Satanism. Picture speaks for itself.314866.jpeg
 

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I'm a metal elitist dude who is also deep into kpop and jpop, and I have listened to death metal and black metal for 15 years. I am a metalhead first and foremost.

For non-metalheads who don't know the differences between death metal and black metal,

Death metal:
• has drop C to G# guitar tuning (the brutal death metal band Devourment dropped down to E on their latest album)
• has low pitched growling (but Chuck Schuldiner from the band Death used high pitched screams)
• the subgenre melodic death metal uses high pitched screams
• has good production
• is "heavy and brutal"
• is primarily focused lyrically on death, blood and gore, murder and killing (there is a subgenre called Brutal Death Metal (BDM)), perversions and depravity, horror, antichristianity, the occult and and Satanism (only some bands are Satanic)
• uses 7 string to 12 string guitars (usually 7, Viraemia used a 12 string once)
• uses frequent palm muting and "chugging" as a playing style
• the technicality of death metal ranges from simple to extremely technical, virtuoso technicality
• focuses less overall as a subgenre on creating moods and emotions, is less atmospheric than black metal although there is atmospheric death metal with early Septicflesh and experimental death metal like Portal


Black metal:
• has standard guitar tuning or tuned up to F#
• has primarily high pitched screams (although Hate Forest uses death metal growls)
• has purposely very thin, shrill, staticky, very bad production lacking low end (little to no "bass")
• is "sharp, atmospheric, thin, icy, cold, and raw"
• black metal's main lyrical theme is Satanism (this is THE "satanic" genre of metal) but not all of it, artists talk about other occult paths (like the path of Set and other gods/deities/spirits/demons), paganism (and viking battles, there is a subgenre called viking black metal)), nihilism, antichristianity, misanthropy and hatred, depression/loneliness and pain and suicide (there is a subgenre called Depressive Suicidal Black Metal (DSBM)), only some songs about murder, war and genocide, nature (storms, atmospheres, winter), (and there is even a racist subgenre called National Socialist Black Metal (NSBM))
• uses standard 6 string guitars
• uses tremolo picking as a primary playing style, and uses accents and open notes frequently
• THIS is the subgenre, and only subgenre of metal to use corpsepaint (makeup)
• is less technical musically than death metal, is simpler in riffs to create an atmosphere and mood and/or emotion
• has an overall greater range of moods than death metal

Black metal and death metal can mix together to form the subgenres black/death metal, war metal and blackened death metal. I will discuss these three subgenres in a separate post.

Please go to

metal-archives.com

and in the search bar in the upper right corner, search for bands, bands by country, bands by genre and lyrical themes.

If you type in "satanism" with the option "lyrical themes", a list of bands will come up with those lyrical themes.

For example, the death metal band Deicide and the black metal band Beastcraft focus on Satanism.

If a band doesn't show up, then that band is either not considered metal enough or has not been added to the metal-archives encyclopedia.

If any metalhead finds anything I missed, please let me know!

Maybe I was under the spell that "it's all music and entertainment", but I realized all of the dark occultism in black metal and death metal, is all actually real, as are demons, and no, this music isn't just entertainment.
That sounds completely different to classical guitar.
Do you have any instrumental links, to the guitarist only?
 

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That sounds completely different to classical guitar.
Do you have any instrumental links, to the guitarist only?
No sorry, I don't have any links to the guitarists only. They're not independent of their metal projects.
 

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You'd be surprised, older black metal like Black Sabbath has it. Led Zepplin is famous for back masking.. but idk if you'd consider them death metal today. Society has degraded so what was hardcore yesterday isn't today.

The problem with back masking is the message is hidden. It goes straight to the subconscious and is easier to accept. It never reaches the critical mind where it can be questioned.

If the music is evil to begin with, then the hidden message is likely worse. Raping your mother, killing kids, scat, ect.

Satanism is about as evil as you can get while the Almighty told us the devil is a clear and open enemy.
"Surely Satan is an enemy to you, so take him as an enemy. He only invites his followers to become inmates of the Blaze." (35:6 Quran)

If you take the devil for a friend in this life expect him to disown you on judgement day. He will say, " I fear God and did nothing but invite you, you are on your own"

Feel free to listen to your music backwards, this is easily done in the modern age. Its the only way you can be sure, but if your listening to satanic music to begin with.. you got bigger issues as it attracts evil djinn. Once a demon locks on it can be for life.
Whenever you listen to a song in reverse how do you know if they're actually singing something subliminal? Because I feel like sometimes it's just noise.
 
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