I mentioned it, because that is (or used to be) usually what many people would ask about.
I remembered hearing it discussed briefly during a radio interview, as mentioned, but yes surely there are many others that may have greater benefit, and without the headiness.
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As to Soros and the so-called elites pushing the use, no doubt their motives are not to help people heal, but to have as many people as possible being high all the time, so they don't care what happens to them or their loved ones and what is being done to society by the so-called elites.
Yes, that (the part i've bolded) may be, but have you ever considered that there is a deeper spiritual implication as well?
You seem to be well versed in the teachings of jah truth. Tell us, what does jah believe the "groves" mentioned throughout the old testament refer to?
I went ahead and checked a good number (though not all) of the verses mentioning "groves" in the king of kings version, and sure enough, the word "groves" appears. But even if they had been referred to as "asherah", as the new versions do, it still would be referrring to the same thing. What are these "groves" that are often mentioned in connection with idolatry or apostasy?
WHAT ARE “GROVES?” by Shawn Brasseaux Friend, there seems to be much confusion as to what “groves” are in Scripture. Hopefully, we can make sense of this topic for you. THE KING JAMES BIBLE SPEAKS …
forwhatsaiththescriptures.org
The word
“grove” appears 41 times in the Authorized Version. Before we look at these verses, we must note one exception. Genesis 21:33 contains the first occurrence:
“And Abraham planted a grove in Beersheba, and called there on the name of the LORD, the everlasting God.” This
“grove” is in a
positive light, as Abraham is a Bible believer. The Hebrew word is
“’eshel” (
Strong’s #H815), a tamarisk or myrica tree [
Tamarix orientalis]. It was rendered
“tree” in 1 Samuel 22:6 and 1 Samuel 31:13. This fact will prove useful to us later.
As for the remaining
“grove” verses (40 in all), they are
negative. We present them now, reminding you the reader to sense the associated evils:
- Exodus 34:13: “But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:….”
- Deuteronomy 7:5: “But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.”
- Deuteronomy 12:3: “And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.”
- Deuteronomy 16:21: “Thou shalt not plant thee a grove of any trees near unto the altar of the LORD thy God, which thou shalt make thee.”
- Judges 3:7: “And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and forgat the LORD their God, and served Baalim and the groves.”
- Judges 6:25: “And it came to pass the same night, that the LORD said unto him, Take thy father’s young bullock, even the second bullock of seven years old, and throw down the altar of Baal that thy father hath, and cut down the grove that is by it:….”
- Judges 6:26: “And build an altar unto the LORD thy God upon the top of this rock, in the ordered place, and take the second bullock, and offer a burnt sacrifice with the wood of the grove which thou shalt cut down.”
- Judges 6:28: “And when the men of the city arose early in the morning, behold, the altar of Baal was cast down, and the grove was cut down that was by it, and the second bullock was offered upon the altar that was built.”
- Judges 6:30: “Then the men of the city said unto Joash, Bring out thy son, that he may die: because he hath cast down the altar of Baal, and because he hath cut down the grove that was by it.”
- 1 Kings 14:15: “For the LORD shall smite Israel, as a reed is shaken in the water, and he shall root up Israel out of this good land, which he gave to their fathers, and shall scatter them beyond the river, because they have made their groves, provoking the LORD to anger.”
- 1 Kings 14:23: “For they also built them high places, and images, and groves, on every high hill, and under every green tree.”
- 1 Kings 15:13: “And also Maachah his mother, even her he removed from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove; and Asa destroyed her idol, and burnt it by the brook Kidron.”
- 1 Kings 16:33: “And Ahab made a grove; and Ahab did more to provoke the LORD God of Israel to anger than all the kings of Israel that were before him.”
- 1 Kings 18:19: “Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, which eat at Jezebel’s table.”
- 2 Kings 13:6: “Nevertheless they departed not from the sins of the house of Jeroboam, who made Israel sin, but walked therein: and there remained the grove also in Samaria.)”
- 2 Kings 17:10: “And they set them up images and groves in every high hill, and under every green tree:….”
- 2 Kings 17:16: “And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.”
- 2 Kings 18:4: “He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.”
- 2 Kings 21:3: “For he built up again the high places which Hezekiah his father had destroyed; and he reared up altars for Baal, and made a grove, as did Ahab king of Israel; and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them.”
- 2 Kings 21:7: “And he set a graven image of the grove that he had made in the house, of which the LORD said to David, and to Solomon his son, In this house, and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all tribes of Israel, will I put my name for ever:….”
- 2 Kings 23:4: “And the king commanded Hilkiah the high priest, and the priests of the second order, and the keepers of the door, to bring forth out of the temple of the LORD all the vessels that were made for Baal, and for the grove, and for all the host of heaven: and he burned them without Jerusalem in the fields of Kidron, and carried the ashes of them unto Bethel.”
- 2 Kings 23:6: “And he brought out the grove from the house of the LORD, without Jerusalem, unto the brook Kidron, and burned it at the brook Kidron, and stamped it small to powder, and cast the powder thereof upon the graves of the children of the people.”
- 2 Kings 23:7: “And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.”
- 2 Kings 23:14: “And he brake in pieces the images, and cut down the groves, and filled their places with the bones of men.”
- 2 Kings 23:15: “Moreover the altar that was at Bethel, and the high place which Jeroboam the son of Nebat, who made Israel to sin, had made, both that altar and the high place he brake down, and burned the high place, and stamped it small to powder, and burned the grove.”
- 2 Chronicles 14:3: “For he took away the altars of the strange gods, and the high places, and brake down the images, and cut down the groves:….”
- 2 Chronicles 15:16: “And also concerning Maachah the mother of Asa the king, he removed her from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove: and Asa cut down her idol, and stamped it, and burnt it at the brook Kidron.”
- 2 Chronicles 17:6: “And his heart was lifted up in the ways of the LORD: moreover he took away the high places and groves out of Judah.”
- 2 Chronicles 19:3: “Nevertheless there are good things found in thee, in that thou hast taken away the groves out of the land, and hast prepared thine heart to seek God.”
- 2 Chronicles 24:18: “And they left the house of the LORD God of their fathers, and served groves and idols: and wrath came upon Judah and Jerusalem for this their trespass.”
- 2 Chronicles 31:1: “Now when all this was finished, all Israel that were present went out to the cities of Judah, and brake the images in pieces, and cut down the groves, and threw down the high places and the altars out of all Judah and Benjamin, in Ephraim also and Manasseh, until they had utterly destroyed them all. Then all the children of Israel returned, every man to his possession, into their own cities.”
- 2 Chronicles 33:3: “For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his father had broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them.”
- 2 Chronicles 33:19: “His prayer also, and how God was intreated of him, and all his sins, and his trespass, and the places wherein he built high places, and set up groves and graven images, before he was humbled: behold, they are written among the sayings of the seers.”
- 2 Chronicles 34:3: “For in the eighth year of his reign, while he was yet young, he began to seek after the God of David his father: and in the twelfth year he began to purge Judah and Jerusalem from the high places, and the groves, and the carved images, and the molten images.”
- 2 Chronicles 34:4: “And they brake down the altars of Baalim in his presence; and the images, that were on high above them, he cut down; and the groves, and the carved images, and the molten images, he brake in pieces, and made dust of them, and strowed it upon the graves of them that had sacrificed unto them.”
- 2 Chronicles 34:7: “And when he had broken down the altars and the groves, and had beaten the graven images into powder, and cut down all the idols throughout all the land of Israel, he returned to Jerusalem.”
- Isaiah 17:8: “And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect that which his fingers have made, either the groves, or the images.”
- Isaiah 27:9: “By this therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be purged; and this is all the fruit to take away his sin; when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in sunder, the groves and images shall not stand up.”
- Jeremiah 17:2: “Whilst their children remember their altars and their groves by the green trees upon the high hills.”
- Micah 5:14: “And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee: so will I destroy thy cities.”
Regarding the last 40 instances, it was the Hebrew word “Asherah” (Strong’s #H842). The term is defined as: “from H833 [happy]; happy; Asherah (or Astarte) a Phoenician goddess; also an image of the same:—grove. Compare H6253 [Ashtoreth, the Phoenician goddess of love (and increase)].”
These groves are associated with the worship of a phoenician goddess. Good kings of israel cut down the groves. What does this tell us about how God feels about these groves?
Marijuana is also associated with idol worship in india (this time to shiva the destroyer, who as i understand the elites pay devotion to)
The cannabis plant’s role in Hindu mythology has authorities turning a blind eye to India’s drug shops.
www.bbc.com
However, the most popular order at Pathak’s stall, known as ‘special thandai’, is made with a dash of freshly ground
bhang,
an intoxicant made from the leaves of the female cannabis plant.
Bhang has long been of cultural significance in India. In Hinduism, bhang takes on special meaning as
the plant preferred by Shiva, the god of destruction, who was believed to have used bhang to focus inward and to harness his divine powers for the good of the world.
In the Atharva Veda, one of the four sacred texts of Hinduism, cannabis is named one of the five most sacred plants on Earth. The text also refers to it as
a ‘source of happiness’ and a ‘liberator’.
Shiva is one chill deity.
He's one of the three major gods in the Hindu religion. And he has a penchant for pot.
"Shiva loves marijuana. So we come to share Shiva's prasad [offerings] with everyone else," explains a 60-year-old holy man who gives his name as Radhe Baba.
It's the eve of the festival of Shiva Ratri, or "The Night of Shiva" — March 7 this year. The celebration marks the day Shiva saved the universe from darkness and married the goddess Parvati.
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And they also smoke hashish. Marijuana smoke mingles with the bonfires. Both are symbols of religious devotion.
Shiva, it's believed, used marijuana both to relax and to focus better for meditation.
That [smoking marijuana] makes us forget everything and we communicate with Shiva," 50-year-old Madhan Lal Baba says, sitting next to Radhe.
These people acknowledge that they are using it to communicate with
something , and it's not the God of the Bible...
How much more evidence would be needed to show that consuming this plant is just as much sorcery - or idolatry, if you will - as taking pharmaceuticals?
Even common kitchen spices, like for instance turmeric have health benefits.
I read somewhere, that turmeric is more effective than ibuprofen at pain relief and it's also anti-inflamatory, while ibuprofen has many side effects that are damaging. Yet, you won't see pharma companies promoting Turmeric spice, because they want to sell and promote their products instead.
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I do agree with you, and what you said about most people's ability to lie and be in denial. People are very irresponsible in today's society, which the so-called elites have been working to corrupt for so long. I just wanted to point out, that instead of pharmacy, there are other options and not just that, but that people changing to natural options would be better, and that is not something to be against.
I agree. I'm not opposed to natural treatments at all. While it may seem otherwise due to my defenses of the necessity of modern medicine, especially in acute emergencies, if you knew me you would know that i am quite opposed to much of modern industrialized medicine. I definitely don't believe the doctors have all the answers, nowhere close to it. I try to treat most things myself at home. But i also know that they have helped out on a couple of occasions when it was necessary. Things are more nuanced than just black and white.
The problem is that you cannot trust modern medicine to even be what it claims to be at all any more.
Who knows what they put into people's medications, as additives.
There are videos of people extracting a black magnetic substance, from things like (I believe it was) headache pills (or it may have been some other type of pharmaceutical pill or capsule).
That is most likely graphene oxide, which some researchers have also said is in the vax.
They (the so called elites) are out to depopulate and kill us, for their new world order.
So now more than ever, it is becoming foolish for people to trust that what they get is even what it says anymore.
That's just my thoughts, others may choose to believe different, but I would suggest them going online and doing some research into these claims.
You can't trust people who are out to kill you, to be truthful - it simply does not follow.
I hear you, and completely agree that people should do their research.
But also, if they're injecting the food supply with mrna there aren't going to be too many ways for the majority of people to avoid these things. In the other thread a freeman mentioned that jah does not permit "synthetic vitamins" and i asked him if that means people in countries where grain products are vitamin fortified by the govt should just not eat if they can't afford organic, lest they be commiting "sorcery". He didn't have an answer...
I also don't think dissenting views should be censored, by either side. There is much disinformation and fear p0rn being pumped out by BOTH sides.
Also, not to go on a tangent too much, but in my personal opinion, there are fates worse than death. Rather than being killed, being turned into a remote controlled antenna by the graphene oxide sounds worse. I'll just pray that the Lord will return before the elite's plans are consummated...
