Train Derailment in Ohio being blacked out by media

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In 1979, fourteen year old Joe Lamb mourns his mother Elizabeth who died recently in a workplace accident. He clings to his mom's memory in the form of a locket. Joe's dad, Deputy Sheriff Jack Lamb, blames Louis Dainard for his wife's death. Dainard showed up drunk to work that day so Elizabeth had to cover his shift.

Four months later Joe's friend Charles is making a zombie movie for a Super 8 film competition. He enlists Joe's help along with friends Preston, Martin, and Cary, as well as Dainard's daughter, Alice. Though their fathers are opposed to their friendship, Joe and Alice become close.

While filming at a train depot at midnight, a train approaches and a pickup truck rams the train head-on, derailing it and destroying the depot. The children are separated in the chaos. Joe sees the door of a train wagon violently thrown off. The kids regroup and find crates of strange white cubes amid the wreckage before discovering the truck driver to be their biology teacher Dr. Woodward. Gravely injured, he warns them at gunpoint to forget what they have seen. They flee, as a convoy from the local Air Force base, led by Col. Nelec, arrives. Nelec finds an empty super 8 film box.

In the following days the town experiences strange events; dogs run away, several townspeople go missing, the electrical power fluctuates, and electronic items are stolen. Jack approaches Nelec but Nelec arrests him. Nelec orders flamethrowers to start a wildfire as an excuse to evacuate the residents to the base.
The date of Elizabeth Lamb's death in the film is indicated on the memorial plaque - February 3, 1979
The military sets a controlled fire as an excuse to evacuate the town, while an alien is rampaging through the town. In our reality it was the controlled burning of chemicals in East Palestine and distracting unidentified Chinese balloons.
The plot of Spielberg's film is similar to the story of the prophetic film "White Noise": Ohio, the making of the film and the train wreck.
The events take place in a fictional city, but judging by the map from the film, it is the city of New Lebanon.
The whole chemical, biological contamination and "alien threat" story is reminiscent of The Report from Iron Mountain.

Credibility, in fact, lies at the heart of the problem of developing a political substitute for war. This is where the space-race proposals, in many ways so well suited as economic substitutes for war, fall short. The most ambitious and unrealistic space project cannot of itself generate a believable external menace. It has been hotly argued that such a menace would offer the "last, best hope of peace," etc., by uniting mankind against the danger of destruction by "creatures" from other planets or from outer space. Experiments have been proposed to test the credibility of an out-of-our-world invasion threat; it is
possible that a few of the more difficult-to-explain "flying saucer" incidents of recent years were in fact early experiments of this kind. If so, they could hardly have been judged encouraging. We anticipate no difficulties in making a "need" for a giant super space program credible for economic purposes, even were there not ample precedent; extending it, for political purposes, to include features unfortunately associated with science fiction would obviously be a more dubious undertaking.

Nevertheless, an effective political substitute for war would require "alternate enemies," some of which might seem equally far- fetched in the context of the current war system. It may be, for instance, that gross pollution of the environment can eventually replace the possibility of mass destruction by nuclear weapons as the principal apparent threat to the survival of the species. Poisoning of the air, and of the principal sources of food and water supply, is already well advanced, and at first glance would seem promising in this respect; it constitutes a threat that can be dealt with only through social organization and political power. But from present indications it will be a generation to a generation and a half before environmental pollution, however severe, will be sufficiently menacing, on a global scale, to offer a possible basis for a solution.

It is true that the rate of pollution could be increased selectively for this purpose; in fact, the mere modifying of existing programs for the deterrence of pollution could speed up the process enough to make the threat credible much sooner. But the pollution problem has been so widely publicized in recent
years that it seems highly improbable that a program of deliberate environmental poisoning could be implemented in a politically acceptable manner.

However unlikely some of the possible alternate enemies we have mentioned may seem, we must emphasize that one must be found, of credible quality and magnitude, if a transition to peace is ever to come about without social disintegration. It is more probable, in our judgment, that such a threat will have to be invented, rather than developed from unknown conditions. For this reason, we believe further speculation about its putative nature ill-advised in this context. Since there is considerable doubt, in our minds, that any viable political surrogate can be devised, we are reluctant to compromise, by premature discussion, any possible option that may eventually lie open to our government.
 
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well they did do psa's for what to do in a situation
that maybe similar to say radiation event eh

 

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It's interesting to hear the opinion of railroad automation experts. Is it possible to remotely control some elements of a train, could a hacker attack on Scada systems and local train automation provoke a disaster?
 
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Has anyone heard anything about the train conductor for this train who just got killed in an " accident " ? Seems kind of a coincidence as in Arkancided. Maybe he wasn't going along with the narrative. The leading cause of death is always a coincidence these days.
 

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This is the third derailment of the company’s trains since last month. When asked about the frequency of the accidents, Spielmaker told reporters that Norfolk Southern is looking into what happened and are "figuring out how we can become even safer."

"Derailments are a very loose term," he said. "Derailment could mean as little as one wheel off the track. So as far as an increase, decrease, I can’t really get into that."
Hmm, headless is also a very loose term.
 
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White noise...
  • Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) interrupted testimony from Norfolk Southern CEO Alan Shaw before a hearing of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee to tell Shaw of the derailment.
A Norfolk Southern train derailed in Alabama early Thursday, just hours before the embattled railway’s CEO appeared before Congress to apologize for last month’s derailment in Ohio that released gallons of toxic chemicals into the air.
The latest incident took place around 6:45 a.m. in the White Plains area, the Calhoun County Emergency Management Agency said on Facebook.
At a Norfolk Southern train accident hearing, a senator named Whitehouse reports another derailment (White Plains, Alabama). The first incident was a derailment in Ohio, which is symbolically linked to the movie White noise.

 
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how many is that now,I already lost count
seems like We Seen this same play last yr
with food/supplies etc...

wonder how many "derailments" there has to be
for others to wake up

 
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Too bad people don't pay as much attention to train derailment and destruction of food plants as they do Kpop. Looking at the amount of posts Kpop gets around here is somewhat disconcerting considering it is just kind of crappy music. No offense to Koreans but I never heard of Kpop until I was on this forum.
 

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Matt Ehret brought up eco-terrorism as a probable culprit for the rash of fires at animal processing plants, train derailments, attacks on power grids, etc. Look at this group's website- openly declaring their intention to bring down industrial societies:

https://deepgreenresistance.org/

As a strategy, DGR offers a concrete plan for how to stop the destruction through a two-pronged approach: an “aboveground” movement engaging in organizing, resistance, and building of alternative institutions such as food, housing, and medical systems; and an “underground” wing committed to strategically dismantling the institutions killing the world—using non-violent methods and coordinated dismantling of industrial infrastructure.

My God. The phrase "know your enemy" has never been more relevent.
 
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Matt Ehret brought up eco-terrorism as a probable culprit for the rash of fires at animal processing plants, train derailments, attacks on power grids, etc. Look at this group's website- openly declaring their intention to bring down industrial societies:

https://deepgreenresistance.org/

As a strategy, DGR offers a concrete plan for how to stop the destruction through a two-pronged approach: an “aboveground” movement engaging in organizing, resistance, and building of alternative institutions such as food, housing, and medical systems; and an “underground” wing committed to strategically dismantling the institutions killing the world—using non-violent methods and coordinated dismantling of industrial infrastructure.

My God. The phrase "know your enemy" has never been more relevent.
They could be a front for the CIA or deep state. Either way the authorities are aware of them and are complicit in whatever they are doing.
 
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They could be a front for the CIA or deep state. Either way the authorities are aware of them and are complicit in whatever they are doing.
If these ecoterrorists exist why would they create a website to tell what they are doing? Underground stuff like that is word of mouth only?
 

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If these ecoterrorists exist why would they create a website to tell what they are doing? Underground stuff like that is word of mouth only?
We already know they exist. Look up the crimes of the ELF from the 1990's and 2000's, or those charged for arson in Oregon, Washington, and California the last years. The extremist ideology of the radical left is stronger than it ever was. The DGR website states they practice non-violence but I'm pointing out that these dangerous (feminist, in their own words) beliefs are out there... financed by very shady international bodies. IMO there's more behind the ideology than "the deep state". With millennials and genZ we now have entire generations indoctrinated by exaggerated fears of white supremacy, global warming, etc. that could lead to further sabotage.

Personally I feel the derailments have more to do with corporate/government malfeasance but sadly eco-terrorism is always a consideration.
 

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Too bad people don't pay as much attention to train derailment and destruction of food plants as they do Kpop. Looking at the amount of posts Kpop gets around here is somewhat disconcerting considering it is just kind of crappy music. No offense to Koreans but I never heard of Kpop until I was on this forum.
Don't judge them, my wife is thai and she likes to listen to this when she is cooking. It's kinda backstreet boys and stuff in my old days :D
 

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Still, there must be specific names of those who gave the command to set the chemicals on fire. Only an incompetent person or a criminal could have ordered the controlled burning. If the person was incompetent in matters of safety, hazardous cargo transportation, and chemical response instructions, then he could be charged with negligence.
Don't fire departments in the states have instructions for such cases? There is a train derailment, firefighters get information about the cargo being transported, assess the situation and make a decision. As far as I know, firefighters are supposed to put out fires, not start fires.

 
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