Kidnapped Model To Be Sold On The Deep Web

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The two articles fit together.

Both stories say she was kidnapped and injected with ketamine at some point [my words - obviously the kidnappers removed her jacket first before injection], and she could have easily been confused with seeing five kidnappers, rather than two. Side effects include:
"Disorientation and general confusion due to the drug's anesthetic nature" [even visual and auditory hallucinations]
http://drugabuse.com/library/the-effects-of-ketamine-use/
https://www.drugs.com/sfx/ketamine-side-effects.html

The shoe-shopping incident could have happened at any point, and unless the store assistant says she didn't notice any signs from the model's facial expressions like tension or grief or whatever, then there's no problem with fitting that piece into the puzzle either.
 

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I am pretty convinced things are not what they seem.

Even if she was kidnapped and injected with K, why did she need to go shoe-shopping? They couldn't have asked her shoe size and went out and picked up a pair for her? The whole thing just seems fishy.
 

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I am pretty convinced things are not what they seem.

Even if she was kidnapped and injected with K, why did she need to go shoe-shopping? They couldn't have asked her shoe size and went out and picked up a pair for her? The whole thing just seems fishy.
There could have been a struggle when they first kidnapped her - she was either wearing shoes where one or both shoes could have fallen off; or she just wasn't wearing shoes at the time they took her. The store assistant's remembrance of her shoe shopping will be something to look at.

For myself, I have a tough time buying shoes (or clothes even, and I'm not too odd of a body-type) and have never bought these things on-line - I always have to go in-person to try them out. My left foot is at least 1/2 size bigger than my right, which if I would have realized that when younger, I may not have a bunyon on my left foot!
 

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There could have been a struggle when they first kidnapped her - she was either wearing shoes where one or both shoes could have fallen off; or she just wasn't wearing shoes at the time they took her.
I meant, why did SHE have to go? Someone else could have bought her shoes.
 

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I meant, why did SHE have to go? Someone else could have bought her shoes.
Just like I said - I have to try shoes on at the store directly; so, maybe she has something odd with her feet (even a larger size which is hard to find at regular shoe stores).
 

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If it helps, a size 9 in one brand of shoe, does not mean that another size 9 in another brand will fit properly.
 

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Do you really think a perfect fit would be the first priority of the kidnappers? I am having a very hard time believing someone couldn't have run out to the local department store and gotten a pair of runners that were the approximate size for her. I mean, it's not like she was going anywhere, and she certainly didn't require Balenciagas.
 

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Do you really think a perfect fit would be the first priority of the kidnappers? I am having a very hard time believing someone couldn't have run out to the local department store and gotten a pair of runners that were the approximate size for her. I mean, it's not like she was going anywhere, and she certainly didn't require Balenciagas.
Maybe, not a perfect fit no - that's not quite what I was intending. But the wrong size could have meant a shoe slipping off or whatever. Now, I don't know when the kidnappers present their models to a buyer, how "perfect" they are supposed to look (e.g. pictures or videos they may take of them). Or after the fact when the models are already purchased --> once they are in transport, they would have to have some type of clothing and shoes on them. We know beforehand, that she was at a "fake" photoshoot, so she had to be looking top-notch when kidnapped. Afterward, she was in a bodysuit, according to the story.
 

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Again, the store assistant's recollection will be interesting.
I guess, maybe another question to ask, is what type of shoe store was it - was it for dress shoes or runners? I was assuming dress shoes. The story is unclear on that.
 

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Again, the store assistant's recollection will be interesting.
I guess, maybe another question to ask, is what type of shoe store was it - was it for dress shoes or runners? I was assuming dress shoes. The story is unclear on that.
Actually, I take that back, sorry. Here is a quote from the 2nd story:
A source described as a close friend of Ayling’s told the Mail that the woman went to the shop with one of her abductors because “during the kidnapping, Chloe lost her shoes, [and] he took her to buy some new ones during her ordeal.’’
So, this confirms my original thought of one/both dress shoes going missing at the time of kidnapping.
 
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Just one more for tonight.:)
Here's a Daily Mail article catching us up on things - some points are confusing to me now [I'll re-read it again tomorrow], until the complete "official" story is released. But it's her disposition now which I question more than anything.
I know many going through trauma can display their emotions differently - but 'this' sunny of an attitude and so soon after the incident? Please look at the "I feared for my life . . ." video.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4769522/Police-investigate-model-collaborated-kidnap.html?mrn_rm=als1#comments
Maybe our fellow British forum members, who could have seen this model more on TV then us over here in N.America, can add their thoughts.
 

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Story seems fake, like when your teenage kids make up some bullshit story to explain where they've been for the last 2 days without telling anyone.
Though I didn't have an issue with the New York Post stories (except for maybe hearing from the store assistant directly), this Daily Mail article with video of the model changes things for me:

- Miss Ayling told the newspaper: 'Even now I fear for my life.' [what about her sunny demeanour now?]
- Six days after Miss Ayling was taken from the photoshoot, Herba allegedly decided to take her to the British Consulate in Milan because he felt it was wrong to kidnap the mother of a two-year-old boy.
[we were originally told, "The Black Death group’s in-house 'rules exclude kidnapping mothers'" - those two statements read differently to me]

So, I would say yes, I agree with you - with more of the "story" coming out now.
 

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Though I didn't have an issue with the New York Post stories (except for maybe hearing from the store assistant directly), this Daily Mail article with video of the model changes things for me:

- Miss Ayling told the newspaper: 'Even now I fear for my life.' [what about her sunny demeanour now?]
- Six days after Miss Ayling was taken from the photoshoot, Herba allegedly decided to take her to the British Consulate in Milan because he felt it was wrong to kidnap the mother of a two-year-old boy. [we were originally told, "The Black Death group’s in-house 'rules exclude kidnapping mothers'" - those two statements read differently to me]

So, I would say yes, I agree with you - with more of the "story" coming out now.
Because you know, even black death have their limits.
 

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I think she's lying, she probably wants her modelling career to take off. This was Mondays metro, a free paper provided to tube passengers


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This image was taken when she was 'rescued' by Italian authorities. She was flown back and she immediately engages in interviews with tabloid papers? Surely she'd be traumatised and wanting to keep a low profile?
 

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Thanks, Haich for passing this on.
I did link afterwards on several random videos for this television show, and comments are disabled (so not just for this video which I thought was strange at first).
So, the arrest has happened and it was said "court documents confirm the key details". I can't find where any investigation is continuing on this. Just odd, but I still think it's too soon to be doing interviews.
 
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