BTS discussion thread

[Strawberrypie]

he always seems kinda spoiled to me, i remember the reality when they went in the Usa in 2014 i think, and him, Jin and J-hope have to clean a boat and he didn't want to do that ..

He's not built for that kind of work. Tae is a kept man. He's using that to get what he wants. I think he's the smartest member of the group.

 

[Kimiko2]

I worry about him in the military. He's very unhappy and everyone worried when he was writing depressing letters on weverse. Rm looks introspective and introverted so this is hell for him. Stuck with these people until one of them keels over or a scandal happens. That's their best chance to get away. Kookie impregnate someone already.

I'm pretty sure jkay is practicing plenty! Sooner rather than later I hope some girl gets the job done

Jkay becoming a baby daddy will open up alot of fans eyes but I would be concerned for the safety of the mother and baby

 

[Strawberrypie]

i dont keep up with him but some people here said he was travelling and having some europe vacations?

i dont want to be mean but....its hard for me to believe what they say in public after everything that happened

are we sure he is not saying this because he "misses armeees and cant live without them?"
he went on vlive to say this and now you have social media full of fans trending his name.....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1550593040343044104

He looks emaciated and worn out. If a factory was raided and the employees looked that way, it would be shutdown. He's one step away from holding a bowl and asking Ba2g, "Please Sir, can I have some more?" Rm has been on the edge for awhile. I read about someone that worked in a hotel where a top kpop group was staying. The members were happy and waving, but when the doors closed, they grabbed their phones and were able to relax. The happy act is fanservice. His job is to make bigh1t look amazing and make the fans happy.

 

[Strawberrypie]

I'm pretty sure jkay is practicing plenty! Sooner rather than later I hope some girl gets the job done

Jkay becoming a baby daddy will open up alot of fans eyes but I would be concerned for the safety of the mother and baby

I worry about them too. Jk is used to Armys, but the fans will try to hurt his baby and the mother of his child. They have no self awareness and think they own him.

 

[Kimiko2]

A year ago, that would be considered delulu but after Paris no one doubts that Tae is bi. I think they've all slept with boh sexes. Sg gained a lot of weight, in my opinion so that he'd be left alone.

Probably another reason why jk,up until recently,was bulking up and boxing

However none of the others would have been caught out like vee was in Paris!
No way

 

[Strawberrypie]

Probably another reason why jk,up until recently,was bulking up and boxing

However none of the others would have been caught out like vee was in Paris!
No way

He was caught lacking in 4k. The person he was with posted pictures of their knees the next day, but got mad when Armys were harassing them. Only Jm and Tae have been caught acting out in Paris.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Is it possible that he is trying to break from his programming?? After the sobbing buffet, he bolted for Europe, and seemed to have some “reflection” time there. Wouldn‘t it be something if one or more of them defected…. #wishfulthinking

They all leave and go public. That's the only way. Only a few and the fans will blame them for breaking up the group. The members have been trying to get out of there for a while.

 

[Berrywon88]

So 24 hours after saying she was going to kill herself and that her company is treating her horribly, she’s now saying it was a misunderstanding. Her company must’ve forced her to say this.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1550316738922786817

There's a lot to unpack here, not just about her actions but idols in general. First, this girl says she can't believe people were concerned about her wellbeing.

You said you're not allowed to eat or sleep and threatened to end it all and your fans aren't supposed to be concerned?? This turns it around on her fans as if they are the ones that overreacted. It also simultaneously makes her look humble for not realizing, as she said, that she has so much "power" over people. The choice of the word "power" is interesting. We've discussed in detail on here about the toxic parasocial relationships this industry creates, where a fan would jump in a river if their faves told them to. Fans worry constantly about whether an idol has eaten, slept, etc. Their faves well-being comes before their own. It's sick and I truly believe perpetuated by these filmed breakdowns and backstage docs showing crying emaciated on the verge of collapse singers.


Now I'm not saying abuse doesn't happen in this industry, on the contrary, but it's used as a form of emotional manipulation; akin to those commercials of a rich celeb asking the public for a donation by exploiting starving kids.

Basically, the more emotionally invested someone is to an idol, the more $$$ the company makes period. The companies don't give a sh!t if they're seen as the abusive villain as long as they still get money.

Now back to this girl's response. I noticed she was more careful with her words in this 2nd live with several pauses. This is typical of idols...It shows they are rehearsed and also lying. The girl was more genuine in the 1st live. I believe that's how she truly felt. However, one has to ask why was she allowed to continue the live when we all know these idols are watched like a hawk and also it took her time to come back on live and explain herself. My opinion is that her company was analysing the public's reaction. Hype does this all the time. It's no coincidence that these companies are are all slow to respond on serious matters concerning their artists. They can see how invested the public is by whether enough of them show concern or not.

To sum it all up, this is why I've been saying on here to not care about what happens to these idols. Seriously, they are just puppets, used as a gov't tool to promote their nation and increase tourism. And it's working! How many people are learning Korean and planning to go to SK since Kpop exploded on the scene? The answer is a lot. Everything that is seen with these idols is fake and every now and again they are abused or have a breakdown on camera, but it is what it is. Hollyweird is no different. It's the parents fault and the grown individuals that chose to be and stay in these entertainment industries. No one cares about us ordinary folks and what we go though and yet so many care about these celebs that they don't even know. Crazy!

 

[arhur12]

Money and privilege can't buy happiness and looks like NJ has realized this

NJ also seems the most disillusioned by the kpop industry plus he gave up his musical creativity to sing those crappy English kiddie songs and it still didn't win them a grammy twice in a row and they are seen as sell outs by their original fans who most likely left after dynamite and they still most likely have to serve in the military

I still believe its the pending military enlistment that is making them stressed out. Most idols look stressed out before they go to the military. It is a career killer for some of them. BTS realized now that they are only being used by their government. They did everything the government wanted from them in hopes of exemption but now they know it was all fake promises and lies. I do not know how to feel about RM and all of the other members. I hope he repents but he is still connected to some shady people. BTS defended a Sex crime offender just recently and JH still works with an absolute pig like Supreme Boi. Sure watching them break down makes me feel some empathy for them but what about the victims who were assaulted by Bobby Chung??? what about the women Iron physically assaulted and killed?? what about the rumors that they are involved in burning sun?? if they are even slightly involved in something evil like that they deserve no sympathy.

 

[Strawberrypie]

There's a lot to unpack here, not just about her actions but idols in general. First, this girl says she can't believe people were concerned about her wellbeing.
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You said you're not allowed to eat or sleep and threatened to end it all and your fans aren't supposed to be concerned?? This turns it around on her fans as if they are the ones that overreacted. It also simultaneously makes her look humble for not realizing, as she said, that she has so much "power" over people. The choice of the word "power" is interesting. We've discussed in detail on here about the toxic parasocial relationships this industry creates, where a fan would jump in a river if their faves told them to. Fans worry constantly about whether an idol has eaten, slept, etc. Their faves well-being comes before their own. It's sick and I truly believe perpetuated by these filmed breakdowns and backstage docs showing crying emaciated on the verge of collapse singers.
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Now I'm not saying abuse doesn't happen in this industry, on the contrary, but it's used as a form of emotional manipulation; akin to those commercials of a rich celeb asking the public for a donation by exploiting starving kids.
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Basically, the more emotionally invested someone is to an idol, the more $$$ the company makes period. The companies don't give a sh!t if they're seen as the abusive villain as long as they still get money.

Now back to this girl's response. I noticed she was more careful with her words in this 2nd live with several pauses. This is typical of idols...It shows they are rehearsed and also lying. The girl was more genuine in the 1st live. I believe that's how she truly felt. However, one has to ask why was she allowed to continue the live when we all know these idols are watched like a hawk and also it took her time to come back on live and explain herself. My opinion is that her company was analysing the public's reaction. Hype does this all the time. It's no coincidence that these companies are are all slow to respond on serious matters concerning their artists. They can see how invested the public is by whether enough of them show concern or not.

To sum it all up, this is why I've been saying on here to not care about what happens to these idols. Seriously, they are just puppets, used as a gov't tool to promote their nation and increase tourism. And it's working! How many people are learning Korean and planning to go to SK since Kpop exploded on the scene? The answer is a lot. Everything that is seen with these idols is fake and every now and again they are abused or have a breakdown on camera, but it is what it is. Hollyweird is no different. It's the parents fault and the grown individuals that chose to be and stay in these entertainment industries. No one cares about us ordinary folks and what we go though and yet so many care about these celebs that they don't even know. Crazy!

Trying to remember this because I get over invested in idols who are hurting. I feel worse for the ones whose parents sold them, but adult idols are doing it to themselves. One thing to keep in mind. Sometimes we get used to situations and it's hard to walk away. Fear of the unknown keeps people on abusive situations because the future is unsure.

 

[Berrywon88]

Trying to remember this because I get over invested in idols who are hurting.

Same, I try and remind myself that the kpop industry plays with our empathy for a profit. The victims are the fans when you really think about it. And I've asked myself why Kpop makes one more invested than say liking a western celebrity. And I think it boils down to western celebs seem out of touch and inaccessible, which they are.

More manipulative tactics are used in Kpop to make a fan think an idol is relatable and down to earth, as if they could be your friend, and it's a lie. It for example worked with b*s until they got really famous. They were funny and made to look more humble with their reactions winning silly cheap prizes in run episodes.

I have heard many people say they became army because of the guys personalities and group dynamic while hating their music at first.

 

[Laura755y]

Same, I try and remind myself that the kpop industry plays with our empathy for a profit. The victims are the fans when you really think about it. And I've asked myself why Kpop makes one more invested than say liking a western celebrity. And I think it boils down to western celebs seem out of touch and inaccessible, which they are.
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More manipulative tactics are used in Kpop to make a fan think an idol is relatable and down to earth, as if they could be your friend, and it's a lie. It for example worked with b*s until they got really famous. They were funny and made to look more humble with their reactions winning silly cheap prizes in run episodes.
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I have heard many people say they became army because of the guys personalities and group dynamic while hating their music at first.

I totally agree with you, the kpop industry's strategie is way different than hollyweird's, they let people think that the idols are humble and can be reached, even in some idols's debut inter.views when talking about their "fake ideal type" its always a sweet, loving, caring girl, who will love me for who iam not becuz im an A+ idol, blah blah blah, fans eat up this crap, and think they can be their wife, and live the Dream. And ofc their is that one idol in mant groups, that will target lgbts by saying "when it comes to love gender is not important", and the one who targets a specifique religion, the one that targets people with mental health issues... the list is long. But this is how they drown people in, the ones who arent aware of such sick tricks, they're easy to manipulate, alot of them rn need a reality check. Like u said the fans are the real victims.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Same, I try and remind myself that the kpop industry plays with our empathy for a profit. The victims are the fans when you really think about it. And I've asked myself why Kpop makes one more invested than say liking a western celebrity. And I think it boils down to western celebs seem out of touch and inaccessible, which they are.
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More manipulative tactics are used in Kpop to make a fan think an idol is relatable and down to earth, as if they could be your friend, and it's a lie. It for example worked with b*s until they got really famous. They were funny and made to look more humble with their reactions winning silly cheap prizes in run episodes.
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I have heard many people say they became army because of the guys personalities and group dynamic while hating their music at first.

I preferred their older music but liked their dynamic and silly behavior. The fans are the victims. In a way so are the idols, but at least they get something out of it. We lose money, time, get manipulated and become mentally ill. Celebrities don't appeal to me, but btees was there when I was having a hard time and needed something. A lot of us have a similar story. These people prey on our empathy and capacity to love. That's something they lose early if they want to survive their training and debut. Trainees can't have real friends.

 

[Strawberrypie]

I totally agree with you, the kpop industry's strategie is way different than hollyweird's, they let people think that the idols are humble and can be reached, even in some idols's debut inter.views when talking about their "fake ideal type" its always a sweet, loving, caring girl, who will love me for who iam not becuz im an A+ idol, blah blah blah, fans eat up this crap, and think they can be their wife, and live the Dream. And ofc their is that one idol in mant groups, that will target lgbts by saying "when it comes to love gender is not important", and the one who targets a specifique religion, the one that targets people with mental health issues... the list is long. But this is how they drown people in, the ones who arent aware of such sick tricks, they're easy to manipulate, alot of them rn need a reality check. Like u said the fans are the real victims.

They manipulated their fans and then blame them when they turn and get angry or become stalkers. Fans blame other fans for wanting anything from idols but scream that we should love them.

 

[Laura755y]

They manipulated their fans and then blame them when they turn and get angry or become stalkers. Fans blame other fans for wanting anything from idols but scream that we should love them.

Exactly! Its like somecold war, and i dont like it one bit, cuz in the time when people should focus on important shit, they're trying to get some human's attention. Sick.

 

[teap3t]

They're deflecting from the other members and Yj. All of them buy followers and the first year of a new group, hive buys streams and likes. They could get in trouble for messing with the music charts, but not Instagram. The company has a pattern of exposing Jm when they need to hide something. He must not want to sign again.

Maybe jm wants out for the sake of his newborn?And all those sorries he earlier posted for his fans could mean something.

 

[minnie82]

He's not built for that kind of work. Tae is a kept man. He's using that to get what he wants. I think he's the smartest member of the group.

that's why i wrote that he's spoiled..a part that how are you now?

 

[minnie82]

that's awkward, some of them looks like why i have to do that , that's looks so forced :

 

[Beautiful]

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He should stop acting like that it's getting weird. When I see vedios of him i don't understand his character like what is his real self. They act different on stage, shows ,fan sign, like this with powerful people. And in that short it is looking like they are picking favourite one.

Jm dad is also a rising right-wing politician in busan from what I have read

He is having a cafe in Busan. Werid place filled with werid paintings. Idk but they kept old furniture of their family like stitching machine etc. And cafe was filled with marilyn monroe paintings. And there was jimin hat collection. And recently he launched cups which has jm pic on it. You can say He is using his son for business.

 

[Beautiful]

that's awkward, some of them looks like why i have to do that , that's looks so forced :

Except jm hope no one is happy. The whole festa is confusing why to say they are going solo and again bring them back as group. It looks likes test to see who will survive if group gets divided.