BTS discussion thread

[Kimiko2]

Ex0 all look like men as well and they sing very well and release age appropriate music

Jkay looks really bad he has lost so much weight and looks pretty gaunt in the face
He has aged alot in only a few months

Jn,talentless he is, looks younger and healthier than jkay

 

[minnie82]

Ex0 all look like men as well and they sing very well and release age appropriate music

Jkay looks really bad he has lost so much weight and looks pretty gaunt in the face
He has aged alot in only a few months

Jn,talentless he is, looks younger and fer and healthier than jkay

yes but Jin is not that healthier, he looks very skinny in these latest times

 

[Onnanoko]

I wasnt talkin 'bout his beauty, but he looks like that with all the makeup, PSs and shit, he looks older than his age, and worn out, as if he didnt sleep for a week, he's known on being an alcoholic and do heavy drugs too, he loses weight really fast, and not only from the crazy ass diets or hardcore workouts but he takes dieting pills too, and last but not least energy boosters, imagine what can the combo of all this crap do to a human, and im not talkin 'bout him only but alot of other celebrities, all this causes major health issues.
And not to forget he's a bad influence on his fans, i saw alot of them trying to follow his extrem diet and buy the diet pills too. And they give a fuck about their self all they want is be like Oppar, it's this bad. He's fucking up his own ass and millions other.

I agree about the lifestyle, it's too much for anybody and even if it seems ok at the beginning, will pay later.
I don't think that at this stage he has many choices. He's living a terrible life since forever and he can't set any other example. I don't blame them because even if we try to, we can't imagine what they've gone through. Who would do better? It's easier to say that. I've never done drugs, never smoked, never been drunk so I could say that I would easily be better than him but we just change with different backgrounds and experiences.
We just can't say that because everyone has different lives and starting point.

I know that they can't get out, they simply won't let them get out. And they'll never be free even if they stop this career, they will always be "recognizable", won't get unbiased relationships etc.
With this life he obviously doesn't care about bad example to the fans which are spoiled kids who see him as an object.
He's like a captive but shouldn't find relief in alcohol just to set an example? No.
He shouldn't drink just to be healthier, for himself, not for others.
Can you be a good example when you're hurt and suffering?

The fans are free to follow the example they want, nobody force them to do nothing. They gotta use their brain.

 

[arhur12]

Ex0 all look like men as well and they sing very well and release age appropriate music

Jkay looks really bad he has lost so much weight and looks pretty gaunt in the face
He has aged alot in only a few months

Jn,talentless he is, looks younger and fer and healthier than jkay

X-0 have better lifestyles and they are more talented then Bangtan I wish they were the ones who blew up instead

 

[Onnanoko]

I wasnt talkin 'bout his beauty, but he looks like that with all the makeup, PSs and shit, he looks older than his age, and worn out, as if he didnt sleep for a week, he's known on being an alcoholic and do heavy drugs too, he loses weight really fast, and not only from the crazy ass diets or hardcore workouts but he takes dieting pills too, and last but not least energy boosters, imagine what can the combo of all this crap do to a human, and im not talkin 'bout him only but alot of other celebrities, all this causes major health issues.
And not to forget he's a bad influence on his fans, i saw alot of them trying to follow his extrem diet and buy the diet pills too. And they give a fuck about their self all they want is be like Oppar, it's this bad. He's fucking up his own ass and millions other.

I don't think that at the stage he has many choices. He's living a terrible life

Gaining and losing weight repeatedly all through the year is called yo-yo dieting and it's extremely unhealthy. Jkay is known to starve himself and take diet pills to drop weight fast before comebacks.
Interesting that your username means "girl" in Japanese when you could have used onna no hito 女の人. So I'm making the guess that you're a child.
Anyway, mentioning 99% of the population in comparison to a prematurely aging alleged druggie is going too far, don't you think?

Let me show you what natural aging looks like..
This is a famous Korean actor that is in his early 40s. His name is Kang dong won. T@e went to his movie premier recently and looked less youthful than him. Like what the hell is going on with b*s??! Their fast lifestyles are definitely catching up with them and they're only in their 20s.
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Using the actor I mentioned to compare further. This is him when he was around jkay and T@e's age. You can see from the current pics I provided he is aging naturally and likely has had no ps. View attachment 77141
Then we have jkay..
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Even with a ton of plastic surgery and makeup, Jkay still always looks tired, aged beyond his years, and unwell. If you can't see the difference between him now and just a few years ago then I don't know what to tell ya. He is declining at a fast rate.
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Obviously wrong guess. I'm not a child.

The actor is for sure taking care of his skin and maybe eats healthy and stuff but he doesn't look younger than v, you can see he has more wrinkles obviously.
Taking an actor as an example of how normal people age is not very objective.
I can't even agree about asians age slower. I know so many asians people, especially japanese and they really are no different than caucasians.. Some look older, some look younger just like every country in the world. The age signs maybe different but they still show.

Empty cheeks aren't necessary the product of aging, can be also because of weight loss.
And no, Jungk0ok hasn't done a ton of ps, still has a human face. Probably done the eyes and the nose.
Probably using fillers nowadays which is not ps.
Idols do fillers even at 16 to completely erase nasolabials and under eyes shadows.

Don't know why you seem to feel resentment towards them.

 

[Onnanoko]

i think JK just have to change his lifestyle and he would be fine again

I think so too. Hope he will at least slow down, try to eat well and avoid dangerous substances.

 

[arhur12]

honestly Aespa songs are worst than this, i have to listen the full song to make a judge ..

I was judging based on his previous song 'More' it was so HaRd c0rE I accidently ended up listening to it at full volume with my headphones and it gave me ear ache. A3spa are bad but the girls have really good vocals Jh was literally screaming in 'More' chorus part.

 

[arhur12]

Those were probably used too. A former trainee said she was angry at a senior idol because he tried to give her drugs. She trusted him, but still declined, and later found out he had a drug scandal. That scared and pissed her off because she could have ended up on drugs too. He told her those were vitamins and supplements.

Sistar said they used to give advice to their female juniors on which male seniors they should avoid. Its not just the executives many older male idols are sick in the mind as well. I feel the Suju members and BB are like this they have rumors about grooming young girls. T.O.P was caught smoking weed with the controversial trainee Han So Hee she accused him of giving her weed but the girl herself has now become more like a prostitute who works for Madame Shim. I am pretty sure many of the older male idols in their 30s are like this.

 

[arhur12]

Taemin's the same age as Jm and looks younger. They live faster and it shows. Only Jn, Rm and maybe Jh look their age. I've never seen that before. Black and Asian people age slower, but kpop artists age very quickly.

T@emin is actually 2 years older than Jm but still looks younger. T@emin was very youthful when he was Jkay's age compare Move era T@emin to Jkay now and there is a huge difference. The Maknae line destroyed their looks with drugs and partying lifestyle only Rm, Jh and Jn look their age.

 

[Laura755y]

I agree about the lifestyle, it's too much for anybody and even if it seems ok at the beginning, will pay later.
I don't think that at this stage he has many choices. He's living a terrible life since forever and he can't set any other example. I don't blame them because even if we try to, we can't imagine what they've gone through. Who would do better? It's easier to say that. I've never done drugs, never smoked, never been drunk so I could say that I would easily be better than him but we just change with different backgrounds and experiences.
We just can't say that because everyone has different lives and starting point.

I know that they can't get out, they simply won't let them get out. And they'll never be free even if they stop this career, they will always be "recognizable", won't get unbiased relationships etc.
With this life he obviously doesn't care about bad example to the fans which are spoiled kids who see him as an object.
He's like a captive but shouldn't find relief in alcohol just to set an example? No.
He shouldn't drink just to be healthier, for himself, not for others.
Can you be a good example when you're hurt and suffering?

The fans are free to follow the example they want, nobody force them to do nothing. They gotta use their brain.

Living a terrible life doesnt equal getting wasted in bars, snorring coke, and taking sheap ass pills, he's not the only one with a bad ass life trust me some of us here had way worse, if the fans have brains then so does he.
Now about the fans i agree that some of them are spoiled brats that sees him as an object and so he does, he only sees them as Cash, but lets not forget that alot of them are still young asf, still kids that knows nothing, i put the blame on their parent, but their is actual cases that dont have them.
"Can you be a good example when you're hurt" let's not give people meaningless excuses, on their shitty behaviors, being hurt isnt a valid excuse on being a shitty person, living in hell isnt a valid reason on bringing down everyone with you, especially when the majority of ur fanbase are fucking kids, they're promoting p***philia for god's sake, i feel sorry for all of them truly, not the b*s members only but all the kids that had to live such fucked life, but there was a turning point before they drown themselves in dirt even more, trust me some of them had/have a way out but all the money is way too tempting.

 

[Kimiko2]

T@emin is actually 2 years older than Jm but still looks younger. T@emin was very youthful when he was Jkay's age compare Move era T@emin to Jkay now and there is a huge difference. The Maknae line destroyed their looks with drugs and partying lifestyle only Rm, Jh and Jn look their age.

I don't think jm looks old for his age once he takes off the filters and whitewashijg and those dreadful contacts he looks like a mid 20s guy to me

Nj is the only one who looks like a grown ass man,jk looks like a junkie looking for a fix
Jn is very skinny but he doesn't look unhealthy like jk does

Vee ruined his looks with smoking and too much filters and too much thinking he is the shit

Jh looks his age and also while very skinny he doesn't look unhealthy

 

[Beautiful]

Those were probably used too. A former trainee said she was angry at a senior idol because he tried to give her drugs. She trusted him, but still declined, and later found out he had a drug scandal. That scared and pissed her off because she could have ended up on drugs too. He told her those were vitamins and supplements.

When I read this i got this vedio in my mind

They said that girl has been drugged. And you can see how he is pulled her hair.some were saying she is misbehaving so bodyguard pulled her. But the story i know is she is been drugged unknowingly and some men were misbehaving with her. So the boy who saw this has called the police to save the girl. But they dragged him out and beat him and police also didn't do anything. And the boy who complained only went to jail. After this vedio leaked boy got support and filed petition online. When they went and saw in club there are rooms which has beds.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Sistar said they used to give advice to their female juniors on which male seniors they should avoid. Its not just the executives many older male idols are sick in the mind as well. I feel the Suju members and BB are like this they have rumors about grooming young girls. T.O.P was caught smoking weed with the controversial trainee Han So Hee she accused him of giving her weed but the girl herself has now become more like a prostitute who works for Madame Shim. I am pretty sure many of the older male idols in their 30s are like this.

Most of them are probably something very different behind closed doors. There's rumors that Jm and a female idol don't get along because he tried to prey on her member.

 

[Berrywon88]

Obviously wrong guess. I'm not a child.

Not obvious at all. You can see where I jumped to that conclusion with your username and responses on here. If not a child, then my guess is you're very young. Teen-to maybe early 20s, a gen z. Millennials and gen x typically don't come on forums solely to disagree, play manipulative games, and side with celebs by making the posters look evil for having opinions. I've been around this rodeo before lol.

he doesn't look younger than v, you can see he has more wrinkles obviously.
Taking an actor as an example of how normal people age is not very objective.

I said he looked more "youthful" not younger...meaning T@e and co are living very hard lives and it's showing on their face. Pre-mature aging of course doesn't look the same as regular aging. I used an actor as an example because he's in the same world as they're in, with access to the best food and skincare money can buy. Why would I compare millionaires b*s to us everyday joe schmoes on the street. I mean you already did that, right? According to you 99% of the world population looks like hot garbage if we say jkay does.

I can't even agree about asians age slower. I know so many asians people, especially japanese and they really are no different than caucasians

Bahahaha this part got me! Who you trying to fool? The term black don't crack and Asian don't raisin didn't come out of thin air. Black and Asian people have more melanin and thicker skin so they don't age as fast as white people. We lose elasticity as we get older and guess which race has the thinnest skin and can't take the sun?? Also, different bone structure and genes have an effect on aging of course.

And no, Jungk0ok hasn't done a ton of ps,

Don't know why you seem to feel resentment towards them.

Comb through this thread and find out. Anyway, as entertaining and ridiculous as your responses were, this is going to have to be the last time I speak to you. I'm sensing troll vibes. So blocked and have a nice day.

 

[Beautiful]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1547605562577235971

What kind of rave party is this. He partying so much nowadays

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1547618051750633481

 

[Berrywon88]

"Can you be a good example when you're hurt" let's not give people meaningless excuses, on their shitty behaviors, being hurt isnt a valid excuse on being a shitty person, living in hell isnt a valid reason on bringing down everyone with you, especially when the majority of ur fanbase are fucking kids

This! People need to stop giving these celebs excuses for their hedonistic lifestyles and evil behavior..they be promoting the most sick vile sh!t to innocent kids. There is always a choice that can be made. A few celebs have walked away from fame and even turned themselves to God. It's rare but it does happen. Jkay is choosing his path and is a grown man, no need to defend him.

 

[arhur12]

When I read this i got this vedio in my mind

They said that girl has been drugged. And you can see how he is pulled her hair.some were saying she is misbehaving so bodyguard pulled her. But the story i know is she is been drugged unknowingly and some men were misbehaving with her. So the boy who saw this has called the police to save the girl. But they dragged him out and beat him and police also didn't do anything. And the boy who complained only went to jail. After this vedio leaked boy got support and filed petition online. When they went and saw in club there are rooms which has beds.

The story I have heard is that a guy Mr. A went to this bar to have drinks and a drugged woman came out and fell over him the woman was asking for help and being chased by other men. The men came and started to beat the guy Mr. A he tried to call the police but the police were involved themselves and instead of helping him they took him into custody and beat him severely also threatening him to keep his mouth shut.

I have heard that the police and YG have a deal police always sweeps YG's scandals under the rug their idols get very little or no punishment for scandals other company idols lose their entire careers over.

 

[Laura755y]

This! People need to stop giving these celebs excuses for their hedonistic lifestyles and evil behavior..they be promoting the most sick vile sh!t to innocent kids. There is always a choice that can be made. A few celebs have walked away from fame and even turned themselves to God. It's rare but it does happen. Jkay is choosing his path and is a grown man, no need to defend him.

Exactly, i see some celebs "willingly" promoting shit, like crazy ass shit from p***philia to cannibalism, necrophilia, zoophilia... and no one comes here telling me oh no they do not know, they been in the music industry enough to start questioning things and having answears, also you're right about some celebs who throw everything and walked away, they fucked their image thats for sure, took away their luxury shit, but bru'h living a normal life is way better.
But when you start befriending rap*sts, drug dealers, pimps, working with them, and profiting from other's suffering, then go around saying oh i had a shitty life, nah bro you're just adding insult to injury . I'll give a quick example in 2004 amy winehouse was asked during an interview if she was asked to change the way she looks or do some shit, she said yes they tried to mold me into a big triangle shape but i said NO, 3:10min.

 

[arhur12]

Most of them are probably something very different behind closed doors. There's rumors that Jm and a female idol don't get along because he tried to prey on her member.

Many male idols were rumored to be part of Nth room including from big groups like X-0, BT5, G0t7, C1X and more. 1997 liner group has so many rumors about drugs and worse things. Female K-POP fans should babying their favs

 

[PrincessPunch]

I'm a little bit of an insider of music industry in my country and I can explain the situation. I sing and I can say that T x t's vocal line as always been good, they never really had a sudden improvement. With good I definitely don't mean Jungk0ok level, which has an incredibly good control of his vocals, or Hwasa level or whatever lol
But they are good at conveying feelings in the voice, especially Ye0njun, except for T4ehyun who is more technical. I would say a medium level.

The problem with them is: they clearly lack training. Their stamina, especially Ye0njun's, is extremely low so you can watch a very good performance of them and also a very bad one the day after because they're exhausted.
For what live vocals are concerned, unfortunately they are totally playback. I've watched their live concert past week and it was all pre recorded.
This technique that we may use in the pop music industry (which is what SM does everytime with Sh1nee and Tae1m comebacks) is prerecording live vocals with stage mics while dancing or moving softly, edit them and then use the track for lipsyncing so that it sounds live. Of course this way it sounds very natural, but you still can tell because they're moving like crazy in some moves and perfect notes at those moments isn't really possible. Especially if you listen to a whole live and can never hear a mistake, which was T x t's case at the latest online concert, it is clearly pre recorded.

Flaws in vocals of a live performance are beautiful I think, it really bothers me this total lipsync, instead of at least putting background vocals with a high volume and singing on them, because they really are good.

As for what Taem1n is concerned, he had some months to train the vocals and SM has great vocal trainers, they all sing the same way but at least it works. He also said he practiced extremely hard to learn to the point of bleeding (I don't know if this statement can be trusted cause bleeding cant' lead you to learn singing lol)

What B1ghit care most about is the uniqueness of the vocals, so they don't spend money training idols because when you learn technique you could easily lose some of your voice quality for the sake of a correct singing technique. And they also don't think an idol needs to know how to sing

if you don't mind me asking, what are you doing in a kpop conspiracy thread?