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PrincessPunch

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well their new song didn't even debut in the top 10 in billboard



i don't remember last time this happened, even their flop song "life goes on" managed to debut at 1 back then
you can clearly see the change in numbers and fans hype

now lets see if the maknae can get a hit song with this Charlie Puth collab, I don't think Charlie is still popular in the US but maybe he has a bigger chance than BT5, cause it's clear their peak has passed
charlie puth isnt really that popular i've always thought he just uses jk to push his career and grab more attention. why didn't jk just collab with jb instead? it would have a greater chance at hitting the charts
 

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charlie puth isnt really that popular i've always thought he just uses jk to push his career and grab more attention. why didn't jk just collab with jb instead? it would have a greater chance at hitting the charts
That would be weird in a hilarious way yk, they both have the same style and shit, the blond bieber vs the asian version of him.
 

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I was the one who said he might be sacrificed in the other thread. But it was just my theory I just find their storyline very weird and them giving a trainee plastic surgery to replicate his look suspicious. Maybe he signed some sort deal to get all those promos and attention and i also mentioned in the other thread how i think he might come from a family line of generational witchcraft. But yes he does abuse his members alot, in the first timestamp you showed in that video he shoved s00bin away after pouncing on him
Yeah I read their story line it's like BTS only with the new concept their story line says he already died. I think some part of fans of army will go to txt. And I think that boy going through some different stage he changed choreography where sb used to touch his shoulder but he changed it to neck. It looks sb is choking him
 

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I was the one who said he might be sacrificed in the other thread. But it was just my theory I just find their storyline very weird and them giving a trainee plastic surgery to replicate his look suspicious. Maybe he signed some sort deal to get all those promos and attention and i also mentioned in the other thread how i think he might come from a family line of generational witchcraft. But yes he does abuse his members alot, in the first timestamp you showed in that video he shoved s00bin away after pouncing on him
The stuff I've heard is that his mom was a former child actor. He's from Seoul but spent high school in another city. He had a bullying and sexual harassment scandal but it was his friends, and people forgot. Most of his classmates loved him. As a trainee, he was always first in everything at bigh1t.

Leeyo is going to be his replacement. The company made his member Tae get surgery to look like jjong, so it's not inconceivable they would do that. There's even a half Japanese and half white member. A lot of the new group is international. In his group, there's no one on his level. The newer group is comprised of nothing but him. Most of them are very talented.
 
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that's weird i honestly don't know too much about t×t because i was more into bt5 and enhyp3n when i used to be into kpop but i definitely have noticed he gets pushed alot more then the other members, sb sometimes too but not as much as yj.
Bigh1t had to debut something before btees went into the military. I think they debuted epipen to make sure one of those groups could carry the company. Unfortunately, Armys haven't been excited about the newer groups. Most Armys are older and won't get into a much younger group. T×t is shiny and epipen is Exxo.
 

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I don't think JK is on the same level as JB, and never will be. Bieber has been in this industry for so long and it's still so relevant, JK on the other hand, I don't think he'll go far. I think he has talent, but the fact that he's Korean and doesn't have English as his first language will always be a problem. Like, JB, from my point of view he's already crossed the fandom barrier, people listen to his music organically, it's not just fangirl pop anymore (sorry if I'm wrong, but that's what it seems to me when I look at what people in my country listen to). Jungkook will have the support of his fandom and may win one or two, but for the rest of the audience he will always be the kpop guy, exotic and stuff. as much as he does a good job, it's not like Canadian Bieber, British Harry, he speaks Korean and his accent is something hard to beat. So I tend to believe that there is no advantage for Bieber to collaborate with him because he doesn't gain anything from it, unlike⁷ Puth who is trying to survive. I think JK will be more successful in his own country and surroundings, not much else.
Agree, i said it before, i dont really see Jeon doing much even with his talent, in his country! yeah probably, but if he wanna go big he have to be more creative, the world has enough of the usual pop fucked up style song.
About him being the asian version of bieber i meant him copying bieber's style of clothing/tattoos... well i'm still not sure if it's him who choses what to wear or is it the big heads's idea, it looks as if they're trying to create an asian version of bieber, not the same quality tho.
 

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He really does hate their guts, not just the simple type of hate, the man think he's a god, d what angers me.more is how they keep praisin him, ow he's so adorble, cute... tf! He literally cusses them out many time, and behaves like a god damn 10yo brat yet they wish they can kiss his a** . Like @Strawberrypie said only a masochist would love a walking ass red flag like him.
 

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charlie puth isnt really that popular i've always thought he just uses jk to push his career and grab more attention. why didn't jk just collab with jb instead? it would have a greater chance at hitting the charts
Justin probably didn't want to collab with jk/btss

Justin makes music of all genres and not just pop and jk has the musical taste of a 13 y.o white girl from Nebraska


Charlie is totally using jk for a hit song and clout cuz their dumb ass fans will hype up any shitty song they release and spend all their money to mass buy said shitty song

Armyy going to be in their feelings when this song doesn't top the billboard hot 100
 

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None of them will be successful in America as solo artists but I think only jk and jh are aiming for the west while jm and Vee will focus on sk and the rest of the asian market which is smart imo

Jk and jh will have some success due to their sheep mass buying and mass streaming but it won't be like it was for the whole group cuz many solo stans who aren't into jk or jh won't buy/stream their music

After it sinks in that American success as soloists isnt cutting it both of them will go back to focus on the asian market
 

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Bigh1t had to debut something before btees went into the military. I think they debuted epipen to make sure one of those groups could carry the company. Unfortunately, Armys haven't been excited about the newer groups. Most Armys are older and won't get into a much younger group. T×t is shiny and epipen is Exxo.
You are probably right about enpipen being X-0 clone they covered x-0's songs on award shows last year
 

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Justin probably didn't want to collab with jk/btss

Justin makes music of all genres and not just pop and jk has the musical taste of a 13 y.o white girl from Nebraska


Charlie is totally using jk for a hit song and clout cuz their dumb ass fans will hype up any shitty song they release and spend all their money to mass buy said shitty song

Armyy going to be in their feelings when this song doesn't top the billboard hot 100
You got me with the comment about jkay having musical taste of a 13 year old white girl but you are spot on. He likes all the American white pop Boys JB, Charlie, JT and he's going to become the Asian Bieber soon. His personality is Vanilla he is a commercial vocalist through and through
 

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None of them will be successful in America as solo artists but I think only jk and jh are aiming for the west while jm and Vee will focus on sk and the rest of the asian market which is smart imo

Jk and jh will have some success due to their sheep mass buying and mass streaming but it won't be like it was for the whole group cuz many solo stans who aren't into jk or jh won't buy/stream their music

After it sinks in that American success as soloists isnt cutting it both of them will go back to focus on the asian market
Not many kpop idols have what it takes to be big in America. The American Market is dominated by soloists while kpop idols come from groups of mostly 6-8 members where they have an assigned role of being the main vocal or visual, leader or dancer etc
A soloist has to be the main vocal, a decent performer even if they are not a good dancer, have good stage presence to keep people engaged, be creative enough to distinguish themselves from the crowd and have enough stamina to be able to sing and dance for hours in a solo concert. Most kpop idols don't have all these qualities they mostly lip sync or sing within groups where one member barely songs 40-50 seconds per song, their personality is artificially created by their company same about their concepts and most become idols because they want to be famous.
Jkay got exhausted doing Euphoria and My time both of which weren't even very demanding he'll be singing like j1m1n if he tries doing proper concerts of 1-2 hours he won't survive in American Market unless he finds his own unique identity as a soloist. Hobi may have it better but he doesn't have the kind of fandom Jkay has so I don't see him becoming big any time soon.
 

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I would also like to add that Kate Bush's Running up that Hill made the top 5 billboard and is #1 on the U.K. singles chart. This song is almost 40 yrs old and regained popularity from being used in the show Stranger things. True testament that good music never d!es! Bteeass wishes their music would have this kind of legacy. I knew with billboard's new rules and armpits not being able to cheat, their drippy song wouldn't be able to make the top 10. Hell they didn't even make the top 100! Sucks for them hahahaha
Kate Bush is a true artist compared to Bts
 
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