Stand With Ukraine? No Thanks. Business As Usual.

Kith

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Thank Ya for the translation Kith
very much appreciated as I did not know

I'm sorry though Kith
I agree with Lizard King
the only thing any of Us know about
Our Countries is whatever tptb want Us
to know or believe so while Your told the Russians
are lying the Russians are told Ukraine is lying

all the while tptb stoke the fires of
fear/hate and make sure the Peoples never
question or decide they are not as different as
tptb make Us believe We are because We are NOT
different,We every single one of Us feel the same
emotions of Love/Joy/hate/fear as that is what
being Human entails some may feel some emotions
more than others but We all feel them

tptb like to go after the low hanging fruit
of Our fear/hate/envy all Our negative emotions
as those are easily triggered specially living in their
designed labeled/always divided world where they
make all the rules and keep Us with boots on
Our necks at all times

No matter what Your being told everyone on
each side are being goated by their government
to fight for what they Love and I am sure We all
agree on that much that for Our Loved ones there
is nothing We wouldn't do
russians lied all the time. There are a lot of evidence. They always said that Ukraine is not a country, but a part of russia
It's obvious that they lie when you live in the country they lie about. How can they know what's going on in our country
But of course I have many questions to our authorities
Forgot to attach this foto to my previous post. That's that roosterIMG_20220508_040431.jpg
 

redqueen

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I did reply just before Your post Kith
and I believe Russia does lie I'm not discounting
but I've already posted enough in this thread to prove
Ukraine also lies and as I said in my post on the page
before this one it's all done to bring about certain results
tptb have think tanks of peoples who's only jobs are to
figure out how We tick and how to manipulate Our emotions
to engineer the outcomes they want and other think tanks
who's sole job is to find different and easy ways to kill Us
or better yet get Us killing each other

With every single war does the main infrastructure
ever get damage to a point of none working NO
why because they throw just enough explosives/whatever
to cause just enough damage to scare Us into action
to make Us get to a state of its Us against them mentality
that old saying
Ya better get them before they get Ya scenario

Meanwhile I'm not a veteran of any kind
but I'm sure most can think if Ya really wanted
to take a Country Ya would attack all the main infrastructure
first being Communication/food/water supplies and make sure
no reinforcements can reach the Peoples being attacked

This way when Ya get to the public Peoples
Ya can force them into compliance easily by
offering all those things again
Maybe it's not common sense and it is justme
and my broken head I don't think so though

Please let me know what Ya circled
in the above photo I cannot make it out clear enough
thank ya
 
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Daze

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How your government lies? About what? Really interesting for me
Everything. Literally they lie about everything. I can put "news" into a search engine and guaranteed the top result will be some kind of propaganda.

For instance the infamous Hunter Biden laptop with an image that shows him with a child 6, 7 years old in red lingerie. Our gooberment is calling this "Russian disinfo".

They are clearly trying to bury this because multiple US politicians have ties with the corruption in Ukraine and are profiting off of it. Anything negative coming out of Ukraine Must be Russian disinfo.

Russia has been always lying.
I used to watch RT often. I remember when they spoke the truth on Israel. I remember when they highlighted isis being a proxy of the US. Many things they shined light on that the US was trying to hide.

This is not to say everything they report on is the absolute truth, as every nation has there own propaganda. But i would definitely put RT above CNN and BBC as far as truthfulness is concerned.

I actually watch a fair amount of Gonzolo Lira, who is a Chilean living in Kyiv. He paints a much different story then what you do. In that Zelensky is the bad guy, and knowing that he is an installed US puppet regime, i have to agree with him.


Perhaps you are watching to much of your own media? I think the fact that you are anti-Russian is what raises red flags about you to be honest. Because every other Ukrainian I've seen / heard has a different story.
 

Kith

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I did reply just before Your post Kith
and I believe Russia does lie I'm not discounting
but I've already posted enough in this thread to prove
Ukraine also lies and as I said in my post on the page
before this one it's all done to bring about certain results
tptb have think tanks of peoples who's only jobs are to
figure out how We tick and how to manipulate Our emotions
to engineer the outcomes they want and other think tanks
who's sole job is to find different and easy ways to kill Us
or better yet get Us killing each other

With every single war does the main infrastructure
ever get damage to a point of none working NO
why because they throw just enough explosives/whatever
to cause just enough damage to scare Us into action
to make Us get to a state of its Us against them mentality
that old saying
Ya better get them before they get Ya scenario

Meanwhile I'm not a veteran of any kind
but I'm sure most can think if Ya really wanted
to take a Country Ya would attack all the main infrastructure
first being Communication/food/water supplies and make sure
no reinforcements can reach the Peoples being attacked

This way when Ya get to the public Peoples
Ya can force them into compliance easily by
offering all those things again
Maybe it's not common sense and it is justme
and my broken head I don't think so though

Please let me know what Ya circled
in the above photo I cannot make it out clear enough
thank ya
I saw there info that looks like russian news. Ukrainian Nazis, protecting donbas, Ukraine should have capitulated. There are no Nazis in Ukraine. The only Nazis and fascists are in russia. They came to our country and murder people, we don't want Ukraine to become russia. Protect donbas? It was Ukrainian just like Crimea, but russia annexed these territories. And those referendums weren't legal. If people want to live in russia they could just move there. What if I want to live in Spain? Can I ask them to make a part of our country a Spanish republic? Capitulate? Why? We don't want russia here. That's a sovereign country and they had no right to come here. They say it's Ukraine that kills people. But what does russian soldiers do here? Not a single person was killed before they invaded. There were many wars that Russia started. Georgia, abkhazia, Moldova, two chechen wars, Dagestan.
In occupied villages people have no food and medications, russians take their cars and houses
And how come that every country has the same news and only russian news tell the opposite
Like 4 days ago they hit our railways thinking that we won't be able to receive military help
I circled that rooster, just forgot to attach the photo to my previous post. This is closerSAVE_20220508_043346.jpeg
 

redqueen

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I saw there info that looks like russian news. Ukrainian Nazis, protecting donbas, Ukraine should have capitulated. There are no Nazis in Ukraine. The only Nazis and fascists are in russia. They came to our country and murder people, we don't want Ukraine to become russia. Protect donbas? It was Ukrainian just like Crimea, but russia annexed these territories. And those referendums weren't legal. If people want to live in russia they could just move there. What if I want to live in Spain? Can I ask them to make a part of our country a Spanish republic? Capitulate? Why? We don't want russia here. That's a sovereign country and they had no right to come here. They say it's Ukraine that kills people. But what does russian soldiers do here? Not a single person was killed before they invaded. There were many wars that Russia started. Georgia, abkhazia, Moldova, two chechen wars, Dagestan.
In occupied villages people have no food and medications, russians take their cars and houses
And how come that every country has the same news and only russian news tell the opposite
Like 4 days ago they hit our railways thinking that we won't be able to receive military help
I circled that rooster, just forgot to attach the photo to my previous post. This is closerView attachment 74068
I can See that I am not explaining it
Good enough or Your just blinded by the
Love for Your Country

zelinsky himself admits to the nazis
and both sides are lying

these so called countries are NOT
tptb to give access/permission to anyone
All Peoples have a right naturally given to Us
by Our Light to Live Freely and to have all We
need to Live a Happy/Healthy Life
so I would be inclined to respond that
anyone from anywhere has every right to
whatever chunk of dirt they so desire to
Live their Lives on

that is why borders are invisible
They do NOT exist and the only reason
We have them pretend borders/lines
is to break Us into easily controlled
groups so that Our so called governments
can manage and control the Peoples in those
groups easier

I'm sorry that Ya cannot See past tptbs
lies and constructed war to understand
fully what this fighting is truly for
We are in a Good vs evil war right now
whether or not Peoples See it

I'm not saying this in any way against Ya or disrespectfully
So please do not take me wrong as I have said
more than once

If I was still spelled induced sleeping
and saw fighting/explosions and dead
bodies of those I knew and my fellow
Country Peoples
I Know I would
fight and kill for my Loved ones
the same as Your Seeing and doing for Your own

It does not change the truth though
and I hope one day that Your able to
recognize and See the truths in all its forms
and See and recognize the evils that reside
and control this World in all their forms

Edit
I would recommend Seeing as Ya
only joined last yr for the bts thread and
came to See if the war was being discussed
that Ya try to expand Your reading on this forum
It holds many truths and knowledge to help
Ya realize and recognize the system this World
has become and what exactly it is that controls
the system
 
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Kith

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Everything. Literally they lie about everything. I can put "news" into a search engine and guaranteed the top result will be some kind of propaganda.

For instance the infamous Hunter Biden laptop with an image that shows him with a child 6, 7 years old in red lingerie. Our gooberment is calling this "Russian disinfo".

They are clearly trying to bury this because multiple US politicians have ties with the corruption in Ukraine and are profiting off of it. Anything negative coming out of Ukraine Must be Russian disinfo.



I used to watch RT often. I remember when they spoke the truth on Israel. I remember when they highlighted isis being a proxy of the US. Many things they shined light on that the US was trying to hide.

This is not to say everything they report on is the absolute truth, as every nation has there own propaganda. But i would definitely put RT above CNN and BBC as far as truthfulness is concerned.

I actually watch a fair amount of Gonzolo Lira, who is a Chilean living in Kyiv. He paints a much different story then what you do. In that Zelensky is the bad guy, and knowing that he is an installed US puppet regime, i have to agree with him.


Perhaps you are watching to much of your own media? I think the fact that you are anti-Russian is what raises red flags about you to be honest. Because every other Ukrainian I've seen / heard has a different story.
I communicate with ukrainians and they are all anti-russian. Cause how can they not be if russian soldiers came our country and murder people
 

Daze

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I communicate with ukrainians and they are all anti-russian. Cause how can they not be if russian soldiers came our country and murder people
As i said, all the Ukrainians I have heard actually say the opposite of what you do.

With every post you make, such as saying there are no nazi's in Ukraine, while i can show many videos proving otherwise, really makes you look like disinfo.
 

Kith

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I can See that I am not explaining it
Good enough or Your just blinded by the
Love for Your Country

zelinsky himself admits to the nazis
and both sides are lying

these so called countries are NOT
tptb to give access/permission to anyone
All Peoples have a right naturally given to Us
by Our Light to Live Freely and to have all We
need to Live a Happy/Healthy Life
so I would be inclined to respond that
anyone from anywhere has every right to
whatever chunk of dirt they so desire to
Live their Lives on

that is why borders are invisible
They do NOT exist and the only reason
We have them pretend borders/lines
is to break Us into easily controlled
groups so that Our so called governments
can manage and control the Peoples in those
groups easier

I'm sorry that Ya cannot See past tptbs
lies and constructed war to understand
fully what this fighting is truly for
We are in a Good vs evil war right now
whether or not Peoples See it

I'm not saying this in any way against Ya or disrespectfully
So please do not take me wrong as I have said
more than once

If I was still spelled induced sleeping
and saw fighting/explosions and dead
bodies of those I knew and my fellow
Country Peoples
I Know I would
fight and kill for my Loved ones
the same as Your Seeing and doing for Your own

It does not change the truth though
and I hope one day that Your able to
recognize and See the truths in all its forms
and See and recognize the evils that reside
and control this World in all their forms

Edit
I would recommend Seeing as Ya
only joined last yr for the bts thread and
came to See if the war was being discussed
that Ya try to expand Your reading on this forum
It holds many truths and knowledge to help
Ya realize and recognize the system this World
has become and what exactly it is that controls
the system
When did zelenskyi say that?
That's not love to my country. I hate what they do and how they rule
So who is good and who is evil here?
By crossing the borders they violated the international laws. They came to murder and they are not bad somehow.. interesting
 
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Kith

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As i said, all the Ukrainians I have heard actually say the opposite of what you do.

With every post you make, such as saying there are no nazi's in Ukraine, while i can show many videos proving otherwise, really makes you look like disinfo.
What is the opposite? That russia came to save people?
What videos?
 

redqueen

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the azov regime is all nazis
a quick search on uncontrolled
tptbs msm medias such as rumble
show exactly who/what the regime is

the international border laws
are made up man made laws that
are not the actual laws of Our World
All Peoples have a right to where ever
they wish to Live

the killing is wrong I never said it was ok
I only said both sides are being told/shown the
same by their so called governments all in order
to get them killing each other and to install more
hate against each other's Peoples

look to who/what rules Our World
to See and Know what evils I speak of

as I already said look around the site
I Know Ya can find a lot of information
I am sure Your not aware of that goes
on in this World
 

Kith

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the azov regime is all nazis
a quick search on uncontrolled
tptbs msm medias such as rumble
show exactly who/what the regime is

the international border laws
are made up man made laws that
are not the actual laws of Our World
All Peoples have a right to where ever

the killing is wrong I never said it was ok
I only said both sides are being told/shown the
same by their so called governments all in order
to get them killing each other and to install more
hate against each other's Peoples

look to who/what rules Our World
to See and Know what evils I speak of

as I already said look around as I
Know Ya can find a lot of information
I am sure Your not aware of that goes
on in this World
Who told you that azov are Nazis? They are Ukrainian soldiers that protect our people. In mariupol they're hiding together right now (soldiers and civilians) and begging for help. Russia hits them with aerobombs and different kinds of artillery
What exactly are you talking about? Evil and ruling the world
 

Daze

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What is the opposite? That russia came to save people?
What videos?


 

redqueen

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Who told you that azov are Nazis? They are Ukrainian soldiers that protect our people. In mariupol they're hiding together right now (soldiers and civilians) and begging for help. Russia hits them with aerobombs and different kinds of artillery
What exactly are you talking about? Evil and ruling the world
their insignias,their actions and beliefs
and other Ukrainians
I have no doubt Ya have soldiers and civilians
hiding together as your government decided
anyone able body enough to fight must fight
so some those Your calling soldiers probably are
not actual trained soldiers and they didn't even
want to fight thats why they are with Ya asking for help
they are everyday civilians just like Ya

Ya have been told it's Russia
Russia has been told it's Ukraine
that is the only reason Ya believe that
is who's attacking Ya

I'm again sorry I do not have time to
explain it simpler for Ya to understand
that our rulers/controllers constantly
lie and kill Us and no country from what
I can See is exempt from this

I would implore again that Ya check out
this sites forums as there is enough
information shared here to show Ya exactly
what I'm talking about even some I have shared
myself but there is many here that share a lot of
Truthful and Knowledgable information
so please go read some of the other threads
outside of the 2 Ya were drawn to this site for
 

Kith

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1 video. Why Nazis? That man came to kill people and people say that it's Ukraine and that they don't want to be a part of russia
2 video. He didn't say they're nazis. But when you listen to what russia says, you'll see that they are Nazis. They say that they are better then others, they have a dictator, say that Ukraine has never existed, that their territory is everywhere where russian is spoken and that the whole Europe is their territory
3 video. You can't understand anything from this video. Like who is this man? Who told him to shoot? What they wrote can be a lie. It doesn't prove anything
 

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Kith is either completely brainwashed by US/NATO mainstream disinformation or a paid online influencer. But the majority at this site are far too aware the truth in Ukraine to believe such propaganda.

The exchange there is a US led proxy war against Russia that was gamed out years ago. I think it was the leaked RAND documents that show their wish to lure Russia into a drawn out battle to weaken them. The heavy increase of shelling on the Donbass region the weeks before Russia's invasion was probably green-lighted by the US. The military exercises, talks of Ukraine joining NATO, even talk of gaining nuclear weapons was all to sucker Russia in.

Ukraine and the West don't want peace- they want to drag the fighting out. But for what? Is their goal to weaken Russia, destabilize the global economy, gain a foothold in central Eurasia, or is this all a boon for financiers and weapons contractors? Russia is asking for the Donbass to be recognized as independent and Ukraine to be neutral militarily; Zelensky could have ended this on day 1 but they clearly want the death, destruction, and the arming of citizens to continue indefinitely.
 

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their insignias,their actions and beliefs
and other Ukrainians
I have no doubt Ya have soldiers and civilians
hiding together as your government decided
anyone able body enough to fight must fight
so some those Your calling soldiers probably are
not actual trained soldiers and they didn't even
want to fight thats why they are with Ya asking for help
they are everyday civilians just like Ya

Ya have been told it's Russia
Russia has been told it's Ukraine
that is the only reason Ya believe that
is who's attacking Ya

I'm again sorry I do not have time to
explain it simpler for Ya to understand
that our rulers/controllers constantly
lie and kill Us and no country from what
I can See is exempt from this

I would implore again that Ya check out
this sites forums as there is enough
information shared here to show Ya exactly
what I'm talking about even some I have shared
myself but there is many here that share a lot of
Truthful and Knowledgable information
so please go read some of the other threads
outside of the 2 Ya were drawn to this site for
Azov and civilians are hiding there. They are trained soldiers. What actions? They just defend our people
No, we weren't told, we see who attacks, whose helicopters, tanks and missiles are ruining our country and killing people. And why are russians there then?
I watched the first video. Azov regime. Ok, there they show how people are happy to be evacuated to Ukrainian territory and say that they don't want to go to russia, cause Ukraine is their country
I saw here so much lies. I live here and know what's happening. And I don't need to watch all that lying videos. When you live here and know the history, then you know what's really happening
 

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The fact of the Nazi/Neo-Nazi militias isn't worth our time to even discuss. There's literally a hundred mainstream articles from the past years and hundreds more already circulating in independent media. The US senate had hearings and tried to pass some bill to block funding for Azov, Right-Sektor, etc. One of the strangest things is Israel openly collaborating with these Nazis... which was called out by Russia's Lavrov (among other critics). The CIA's mainstream media is trying to muddy the narrative but everyone already knows.
 

Kith

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Kith is either completely brainwashed by US/NATO mainstream disinformation or a paid online influencer. But the majority at this site are far too aware the truth in Ukraine to believe such propaganda.

The exchange there is a US led proxy war against Russia that was gamed out years ago. I think it was the leaked RAND documents that show their wish to lure Russia into a drawn out battle to weaken them. The heavy increase of shelling on the Donbass region the weeks before Russia's invasion was probably green-lighted by the US. The military exercises, talks of Ukraine joining NATO, even talk of gaining nuclear weapons was all to sucker Russia in.

Ukraine and the West don't want peace- they want to drag the fighting out. But for what? Is their goal to weaken Russia, destabilize the global economy, gain a foothold in central Eurasia, or is this all a boon for financiers and weapons contractors? Russia is asking for the Donbass to be recognized as independent and Ukraine to be neutral militarily; Zelensky could have ended this on day 1 but they clearly want the death, destruction, and the arming of citizens to continue indefinitely.
I wish someone paid me for this. How do you know this? You live here? You saw that? We don't have nuclear weapons, and I'll tell you more. We sold them to russia many years ago. And what about joining NATO? Ukraine is an independent country and can join different unions and alliances. Started from autumn 2021 russia began accumulating their soldiers near the Ukrainian border.
Majority on this site is from different countries,but not Ukraine and they know nothing about Ukraine, russia and their history
Why donbas should be independent? It's Ukrainian territory that was illegally occupied
What is military neutral. And why is other country decides what should we do. They should mind their own business.
How could he end this war. Became a part of russia? We don't want this. We're not russia
 

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The US is almost $30 Trillion in debt yet they have money to dump onto weapons manufacturers for Ukraine? War is the one thing that unites our politicians like nothing else. All for a corrupt POS puppet state and a fake war against Russia and China. I like the US people but the MIC is the most despicable entity in the world.

 
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