Thread dedicated to the Holy Virgin Mary, Mother of God, Queen of Heaven.

[floss]

You're being insulting and rude. Have you noticed no other Christian here other then Seek acts like you? Not a one and we got a dozen easy.

Why do you think i keep giving you opportunities to reply? Just watching you dig a bigger hole for yourself. I haven't insulted you once, yet every post you have attempted to insult a man who is followed by 2 billion.

I've known you for a long time Floss and i know how much of a vile person you actually are. I'm merely giving you the opportunity to show it to everyone else. I don't need to insult you. You do enough damage to your own faith just by being yourself.

Peace.

Insulting a pedo is a good insult. Muhamad is burning in hell per the Bible. Are you going to call God the Father insulting?
A man followed by 2 billion = man worship, good job

 

[Daze]

Insulting a pedo is a good insult. Muhamad is burning in hell per the Bible. Are you going to call God the Father insulting?
A man followed by 2 billion = man worship, good job

The mere fact that you are looking to insult says plenty. It simply highlights the fact that your own beliefs are indefensible.

Who can defend Christianity? Not you, that's for sure!. Ad-hominem is ALL you have. ... and why are you insulting me? Because i quoted your book. Ya, you sure do make your religion look like the correct path.. /s.

Aren't you tired of this back and forth yet? Last time i checked you still had no proof for your man worship but you sure do come back with the insults, even saying i worship a man????.. i mean its beyond sad at this point.

Reply again, I'm happy to reveal your ignorance and vile nature to the world.

Peace.

 

[floss]

The mere fact that you are looking to insult says plenty. It simply highlights the fact that your own beliefs are indefensible.

Who can defend Christianity? Not you, that's for sure!. Ad-hominem is ALL you have. ... and why are you insulting me? Because i quoted your book. Ya, you sure do make your religion look like the correct path.. /s.

Aren't you tired of this back and forth yet? Last time i checked you still had no proof for your man worship but you sure do come back with the insults, even saying i worship a man????.. i mean its beyond sad at this point.

Reply again, I'm happy to reveal your ignorance and vile nature to the world.

Peace.

You were the one claiming the man is followed by 2 billion, that's exactly the definition of man worship. You said it not me. But I know you claim not to worship the man muhamad, so let me ask you a genuine question (seriously). You also claim your religion is pure monotheistic.

(Serious question)
Are you a super pure muslim if you ONLY believe in Allah and rejected everything about muhamad?

"There is no god but Allah, **** muhamad"

Can you be consider a muslim by believing ONLY ALLAH and reject that polygamist murderous pedo? By definition this should be more pure than your pure monotheistic religion which REQUIRED the belief regarding muhamad.

Side note: if you're offended by me dissing out at the MAN muhamad, then you're worshipping a man. If I insult, lets say Jonah, you wouldn't give two shit.

 

[Daze]

You were the one claiming the man is followed by 2 billion, that's exactly the definition of man worship. You said it not me. But I know you claim not to worship the man muhamad, so let me ask you a genuine question (seriously). You also claim your religion is pure monotheistic.

(Serious question)
Are you a super pure muslim if you ONLY believe in Allah and rejected everything about muhamad?

"There is no god but Allah, **** muhamad"

Can you be consider a muslim by believing ONLY ALLAH and reject that polygamist murderous pedo? By definition this should be more pure than your pure monotheistic religion which REQUIRED the belief regarding muhamad.

Side note: if you're offended by me dissing out at the MAN muhamad, then you're worshipping a man. If I insult, lets say Jonah, you wouldn't give two shit.

Can you not take a look in the mirror? What kind of "serious" question is surrounded by insults? Is it your vile nature or has your devil completely taken over and that's who I'm talking to? You calling my prophet a pedo is alot like me calling your mother a whore. What kind of response can i expect from you if i did such a thing? Could we ever have a serious convo while i called your mother a whore in every 3rd sentence?

You don't get it. Well over a billion people respect this man and would sacrifice there own children for him and you come out with the worst slander against him, something that has been answered time and time again. Do you think its a coincidence that Muhammad is the most popular name on the planet? Do you ever reflect?

I could go into 80 year old Joseph and 12 year old Mary but i don't because what purpose does it serve? How does slander benefit me in anyway shape or form? Everyone here can see i do nothing more then quote Your book and it brings out the worst in you.. which you probably think is a good respectable side? Like you completely ignored the line i mentioned above how you and seek are the worst Christians here. Just absolutely vile.

You're not worth my time Floss.. You never were. I merely reply to you so everyone else can see what a vile person you are and you are exactly what man worship leads to.

Peace.

 

[Maldarker]

I just want to say thanks. It is because of people like you and your responses that is helping Christianity into its grave. After all, insults and putdowns is very "Jesus like". Loving thy neighbor and all of that.

One thing I've learned in my years Floss is people don't respond to hate, so you're doing my job for me by showing what representitves of Christinaity are really like. So thanks!.


Do you remember years ago when i told you that devil never left? You still can't even see it even today but he's right there, guiding your hands. I'm not gonna pull the ad-hominem card because we can all see it when you start the post with insults.

Good day sir.

This guy LOL! Your about as false as your religion.

 

[Daze]

This guy LOL! Your about as false as your religion.

And the circle.. goes unbroken.. by and by lord, by and by.

Well Maldarker. For starters I have an entire thread with proofs, signs of the hour. Why don't you give us something tangible from the Bible? Now's your chance to shine. See if you can produce something that will make an atheist convert today.

The problem is people reject logic.
Is it logical Jesus and God are one while they have opposing wills?
Is it logical God will appear as human, then proceed to worship himself?
Is it logical God will claim to be powerless alone by himself?
Is it logical those who walked with Jesus would call him prophet if he was God incarnate?

I can go on, we are all well versed in the 90+ verses in the Bible that reject the divinity of Jesus.

Problem is you don't want to hear the truth. Such as Jesus crying to God to save him doesn't exist. Am i right or am i right?

What you want, and every other Jesus worshiper here. Is to be told what you believe in is the truth.


But what will you do when you meet the Almighty? It is clear what the reality is when God calls Jesus his servant in Act's 3:13.

You don't even need a Muslim to tell you this. Theres actually alot of Christians who say Jesus isn't God and several of them are active here.

Its not funny, not at all. We can both agree a man who spends his entire life worshiping Noah is going to hell, But you don't want to open your eyes to see you are in the same boat.

You can call me pompous and arrogant but its not about rubbing Islam in your face. Its not about trying to win a debate. Its not about ego vindication. Its about trying to pull you and those like you from an eternal fire whose fuel is men and stone.

What will you do when you see Jesus on judgement day and you say, My lord, my lord... did I not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ .. and Jesus will say.. I never knew you, away from me you evil doer.


See it as you want it. Even laugh at it i suppose. A day's is coming when you will have wished you at least asked God to show you the truth.

There is no god but God and Jesus was His servant and His messenger.
This right here, is the absolute truth. It is the haqq, it is the reality.

God guides whomever he wills.

 

[DesertRose]

Allah is perfect! - Marcel Krass - English subtitle

For more resources: https://www.manyprophetsonemessage.com/

 

[Maldarker]

And the circle.. goes unbroken.. by and by lord, by and by.

Well Maldarker. For starters I have an entire thread with proofs, signs of the hour. Why don't you give us something tangible from the Bible? Now's your chance to shine. See if you can produce something that will make an atheist convert today.

The problem is people reject logic.
Is it logical Jesus and God are one while they have opposing wills?
Is it logical God will appear as human, then proceed to worship himself?
Is it logical God will claim to be powerless alone by himself?
Is it logical those who walked with Jesus would call him prophet if he was God incarnate?

I can go on, we are all well versed in the 90+ verses in the Bible that reject the divinity of Jesus.

Problem is you don't want to hear the truth. Such as Jesus crying to God to save him doesn't exist. Am i right or am i right?

What you want, and every other Jesus worshiper here. Is to be told what you believe in is the truth.
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But what will you do when you meet the Almighty? It is clear what the reality is when God calls Jesus his servant in Act's 3:13.

You don't even need a Muslim to tell you this. Theres actually alot of Christians who say Jesus isn't God and several of them are active here.

Its not funny, not at all. We can both agree a man who spends his entire life worshiping Noah is going to hell, But you don't want to open your eyes to see you are in the same boat.

You can call me pompous and arrogant but its not about rubbing Islam in your face. Its not about trying to win a debate. Its not about ego vindication. Its about trying to pull you and those like you from an eternal fire whose fuel is men and stone.

What will you do when you see Jesus on judgement day and you say, My lord, my lord... did I not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ .. and Jesus will say.. I never knew you, away from me you evil doer.


See it as you want it. Even laugh at it i suppose. A day's is coming when you will have wished you at least asked God to show you the truth.

There is no god but God and Jesus was His servant and His messenger.
This right here, is the absolute truth. It is the haqq, it is the reality.

God guides whomever he wills.

Do you think i laugh? NO! A person that doesn't see the reason for a SAVIOUR & understand the whole concept of why GOD laid out HIS plan of redeemption then doesn't understand GOD. No matter how much you puff up yourself with your semantical BS in the end it won't matter. Your self deluded in your sin of self arrogance & pious self righteousness. (your no different then the jews of the time) You pull out scriptures out of context etc etc that scripture you quote isn't what you think it is but then hey you know it better then me don't you? Its like this: Your infected with a ransomware virus sorry but its true. Nothing can pay that ransom & decrypt all the encrypted sin that effects your soul. The only Anti virus that works granted there are many out there but they don't decrypt like JESUS the rest just claim to but its just that a claim. They don't cover the ransom that you racked up like CHRIST does. By the way its all of you that is ransomed so...good luck thinking your doing anything for your salvation you have no blessed assurance....sorry. BTW GOD has showed me the truth since i was 4 yrs old & i have a promise from HIM so yes going to trust HIM not you.

 

[3337777777]

I am a Catholic and have received signs about Islam and Protestantism. And even without deepening I know that God acts through them as well. The two contain heresies.. but the followers act innocently. I'm using google translation. I'm from Brazil.

 

[Daze]

Do you think i laugh? NO! A person that doesn't see the reason for a SAVIOUR & understand the whole concept of why GOD laid out HIS plan of redeemption then doesn't understand GOD. No matter how much you puff up yourself with your semantical BS in the end it won't matter. Your self deluded in your sin of self arrogance & pious self righteousness. (your no different then the jews of the time) You pull out scriptures out of context etc etc that scripture you quote isn't what you think it is but then hey you know it better then me don't you? Its like this: Your infected with a ransomware virus sorry but its true. Nothing can pay that ransom & decrypt all the encrypted sin that effects your soul. The only Anti virus that works granted there are many out there but they don't decrypt like JESUS the rest just claim to but its just that a claim. They don't cover the ransom that you racked up like CHRIST does. By the way its all of you that is ransomed so...good luck thinking your doing anything for your salvation you have no blessed assurance....sorry. BTW GOD has showed me the truth since i was 4 yrs old & i have a promise from HIM so yes going to trust HIM not you.

Well,when you put the laugh emoji on my post and said.. and i quote..

This guy LOL!

It sure looks like its all a joke to you.

Savior? Right when Jesus was allegedly crucified, when he "died for your sins" he was begging God to save him.
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (Matt 27:46)
The reality is, according to your book mind you, is Jesus couldn't even save himself yet you expect him to save you? Me? Everyone else?

I don't puff myself up. We both know I do nothing more then quote scripture. The fact is Islam has the proofs. Take the Bible and Quran. Today we have over 2000 versions of the Bible while we only have 1 Quran. Now there are lots of people in this world like Floss and Seek, who just hate Islam with unbridled passion and they have been here for centuries. Yet a single person has not been able to change a single letter in 1400 years. This is fact. Look into it. Today we can take every Bible and every Quran and toss them into the sea. Then we can recreate the Quran perfectly due to the millions who have memorized it cover to cover. This is fact. Clearly, the book is protected just as it claims to be.
It is certainly We Who have revealed the Reminder, and it is certainly We Who will preserve it. (15:9 Quran)


Well, one of us are surely deluded as i often point out your book rejects your core belief. Have you noticed how often i quote my book discussing the trinity?
Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah—my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers. (5:72 Quran)
Shove those fingers into them ears even though this is what awaits you.

Now sure, you can reject the Quran because its not your religion, but when it mirrors your book you think you'd reflect.
‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” (John 20:17)


You know nothing is taken out of context. You just accept the different spin put on them, such as Red's infamous "why do you call me good, only God is good" thread. Desperate to twist the texts which clearly say Jesus is alluding to not being God because he is not good. ie he sinned. In fact he got baptisted. Perfect beings don't do this. I only quote a verse, such as..

"The father is greater then i"

And because it doesn't fit your paradigm its out of context? Please enlighten us on how God is greater then himself?

You lost me on this virus rant...


I'd like to hear this story when you were 4 years old. Lets talk about Floss for a moment. Roughly 5, 6 years ago he had a problem with demon possession and was looking for help. Least this is what he claimed, who knows if there was ever any truth to it today?

But i gave him Islamic remedies like i do with everyone. Wasn't good enough, he called on Jesus and the demon "let him be". Assuming this really happened, in his mind now its pretty solid that Jesus is the only way since "Jesus" saved him. He doesn't consider the fact that the demon left him be because he has broken the first commandment and condemned himself to hell should he die on this.

Floss has been the same ever since, taking every oppertunity since to crap on my religion when years ago I tried to help him. While much of our posts have been deleted, what you see in these last couple pages is basically our back and forth from years past. Only this time i didn't sink to his level by throwing insults back. I know everything is recorded and Floss will be held accountable for everything he's said. Just like me and just like you.

Today I'm sure Floss thinks the pedo line serves him and he believes he is doing Christianity a service. Reality is he comes off like a Pamela Gellar (or any hate preacher, take your pick).
By their fruit you will recognize them. (Matt 7:16)
We both know, people don't respond to hate.

Still, its interesting how strong of a grip that the devil can get on people and said person will never let go without Gods intervention.

You love to call me arrogant and pompous, while the question is.. What prevents you from putting your head on the ground and praying as early Christians did?

We all know Jesus prayed this way as well...
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible.. (Matt 26:39)
But somehow, so many are adverse to physically submitting to the Creator. So the devil steps in and will gladly be your guide.


I come with logic. Put the emotions down and you will realize i speak the truth. Jesus never asked for worship. Jesus himself worshiped the Creator. Jesus tells us plainly without God he could do nothing. Exactly like every prophet before, and after him.

 

[Daze]

I am a Catholic and have received signs about Islam and Protestantism. And even without deepening I know that God acts through them as well. The two contain heresies.. but the followers act innocently. I'm using google translation. I'm from Brazil.

Catholicism involves worship of statues. I can link videos where they bring them in during mass. Not to mention the "veneration" of Mary.
This allows demons in. If you think Islam is heretical due to "signs" you have received I'd question the source of your signs.

We could go back and forth, but if you rely on a translator, then i fear much would be lost. Sorry, but i don't speak a word of Brazilian.

 

[Maldarker]

Well,when you put the laugh emoji on my post and said.. and i quote..


It sure looks like its all a joke to you.

Savior? Right when Jesus was allegedly crucified, when he "died for your sins" he was begging God to save him.
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (Matt 27:46)
The reality is, according to your book mind you, is Jesus couldn't even save himself yet you expect him to save you? Me? Everyone else?

I don't puff myself up. We both know I do nothing more then quote scripture. The fact is Islam has the proofs. Take the Bible and Quran. Today we have over 2000 versions of the Bible while we only have 1 Quran. Now there are lots of people in this world like Floss and Seek, who just hate Islam with unbridled passion and they have been here for centuries. Yet a single person has not been able to change a single letter in 1400 years. This is fact. Look into it. Today we can take every Bible and every Quran and toss them into the sea. Then we can recreate the Quran perfectly due to the millions who have memorized it cover to cover. This is fact. Clearly, the book is protected just as it claims to be.
It is certainly We Who have revealed the Reminder, and it is certainly We Who will preserve it. (15:9 Quran)


Well, one of us are surely deluded as i often point out your book rejects your core belief. Have you noticed how often i quote my book discussing the trinity?
Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah—my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers. (5:72 Quran)
Shove those fingers into them ears even though this is what awaits you.

Now sure, you can reject the Quran because its not your religion, but when it mirrors your book you think you'd reflect.
‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” (John 20:17)


You know nothing is taken out of context. You just accept the different spin put on them, such as Red's infamous "why do you call me good, only God is good" thread. Desperate to twist the texts which clearly say Jesus is alluding to not being God because he is not good. ie he sinned. In fact he got baptisted. Perfect beings don't do this. I only quote a verse, such as..

"The father is greater then i"

And because it doesn't fit your paradigm its out of context? Please enlighten us on how God is greater then himself?

You lost me on this virus rant...


I'd like to hear this story when you were 4 years old. Lets talk about Floss for a moment. Roughly 5, 6 years ago he had a problem with demon possession and was looking for help. Least this is what he claimed, who knows if there was ever any truth to it today?

But i gave him Islamic remedies like i do with everyone. Wasn't good enough, he called on Jesus and the demon "let him be". Assuming this really happened, in his mind now its pretty solid that Jesus is the only way since "Jesus" saved him. He doesn't consider the fact that the demon left him be because he has broken the first commandment and condemned himself to hell should he die on this.

Floss has been the same ever since, taking every oppertunity since to crap on my religion when years ago I tried to help him. While much of our posts have been deleted, what you see in these last couple pages is basically our back and forth from years past. Only this time i didn't sink to his level by throwing insults back. I know everything is recorded and Floss will be held accountable for everything he's said. Just like me and just like you.

Today I'm sure Floss thinks the pedo line serves him and he believes he is doing Christianity a service. Reality is he comes off like a Pamela Gellar (or any hate preacher, take your pick).
By their fruit you will recognize them. (Matt 7:16)
We both know, people don't respond to hate.

Still, its interesting how strong of a grip that the devil can get on people and said person will never let go without Gods intervention.

You love to call me arrogant and pompous, while the question is.. What prevents you from putting your head on the ground and praying as early Christians did?

We all know Jesus prayed this way as well...
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible.. (Matt 26:39)
But somehow, so many are adverse to physically submitting to the Creator. So the devil steps in and will gladly be your guide.


I come with logic. Put the emotions down and you will realize i speak the truth. Jesus never asked for worship. Jesus himself worshiped the Creator. Jesus tells us plainly without God he could do nothing. Exactly like every prophet before, and after him.

Whats a joke is you. Plain & simple to hard to understand?
Example how strong a grip the devil has i say that about you.
How do you know or not know my ways of prayer for THE MOST HIGH GOD. Are you KGB nope wait your Mossad not? Peeking in my window? I don't have to show to the world how i pray or how i tithe or how i ....its none of your business. I don't watch your intimate moments with your other half not sure what you profess male female both idk don't care not the point. The time between GOD & myself is private when its neccesary & actually i pray all the time asking GOD questions or giving thanks. The point is you think you know me big mistake. Just like everything else in your life. You really don't care you say you do but you don't. If you did and it really mattered you won't come at me with the same old same old. If your so concerned for my eternal soul. YOUR not its all a facade BRO! You really don't care about others. I would never put a curse on someone but you would. Nice example of Is lame for everyone to see GOOD JOB!!!

GOD Bless.

 

[3337777777]

Catholicism involves worship of statues. I can link videos where they bring them in during mass. Not to mention the "veneration" of Mary.
This allows demons in. If you think Islam is heretical due to "signs" you have received I'd question the source of your signs.

We could go back and forth, but if you rely on a translator, then i fear much would be lost. Sorry, but i don't speak a word of Brazilian.

I understood your post. I don't know if it was clear, what I said is that despite finding Catholicism the most correct religion, God has made positive projects with Muslims and Protestants, and maybe even with other religions.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

You were the one claiming the man is followed by 2 billion, that's exactly the definition of man worship. You said it not me. But I know you claim not to worship the man muhamad, so let me ask you a genuine question (seriously). You also claim your religion is pure monotheistic.

(Serious question)
Are you a super pure muslim if you ONLY believe in Allah and rejected everything about muhamad?

"There is no god but Allah, **** muhamad"

Can you be consider a muslim by believing ONLY ALLAH and reject that polygamist murderous pedo? By definition this should be more pure than your pure monotheistic religion which REQUIRED the belief regarding muhamad.

Side note: if you're offended by me dissing out at the MAN muhamad, then you're worshipping a man. If I insult, lets say Jonah, you wouldn't give two shit.

I haven’t really engaged with Islam for some time as I have been looking into some information that is coming to light about it’s origins, and the challenge those findings present to the “Standard Islamic Narrative”.

People can be sincere, but sometimes they can be sincerely wrong.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0TKiKX1srq10oGvkaZjEnkaAOku2MdhC

The above having been mentioned, I do so in the context of cross examining the historical and textual criticism of the Bible.

If something is true, it can stand cross examination.

 

[Daze]

Whats a joke is you. Plain & simple to hard to understand?
Example how strong a grip the devil has i say that about you.
How do you know or not know my ways of prayer for THE MOST HIGH GOD. Are you KGB nope wait your Mossad not? Peeking in my window? I don't have to show to the world how i pray or how i tithe or how i ....its none of your business. I don't watch your intimate moments with your other half not sure what you profess male female both idk don't care not the point. The time between GOD & myself is private when its neccesary & actually i pray all the time asking GOD questions or giving thanks. The point is you think you know me big mistake. Just like everything else in your life. You really don't care you say you do but you don't. If you did and it really mattered you won't come at me with the same old same old. If your so concerned for my eternal soul. YOUR not its all a facade BRO! You really don't care about others. I would never put a curse on someone but you would. Nice example of Is lame for everyone to see GOOD JOB!!!

GOD Bless.

Yes, the "devil example" is valid. But this is why we look for tangible truths Maldarker. Not indoctriantion and confirmation bias. Things we can see today that were prophesied over a millennium ago. Such as the deserts turning green. Today we can see it clearly. It is irrefutable.


If you prayed the way Jesus did you'd be upon the truth. This is how i know because God guides those who are sincere. Is this not the reality of your prayer?

I know when i was a Christian it was typical to lean over the bed and pray. Lower your head at dinner for grace, ect.. Never did i put my head on the ground in 30 years.

While according to your book Maldarker, this is how Jesus prayed.

Do you spot the difference? And it was not my intent to post a Muslim here. I looked through Christian prayer images and did not find a single one with face on the ground.

Your right, its none of my business how you pray. While I'm kinda of surprised you are offended by this, it is my job to call to the truth. If i see clear deviance then i am obligated to point it out. Much like when you see a thief stealing someones purse you are at minimum required to call out altering others.



I'm not saying i know you. Just that man worship is wrong. We can both agree the Hindus are on a bad path with their multitude of Gods. Have you not considered you will be raised amongst them on judgement day? Jesus says clearly God is one and if I said Jesus you'd picture him. If i said God the father you'd picture a completely different image and if i said Holy ghost, still, you'd picture a 3rd, completely different image.

Your one god literally has 3 separate names and 3 separate image all with opposing wills. Do you not see a problem with this?

Have you considered 3 in 1 gods were common amongst pagans back then? Consider Easter, X-mas, clearly there is paganism in Christianity whether you accept it or not. While a child, a 4 year old can tell you 1+1+1 does not equal 1.



If i didn't care, then why am i putting time and effort into these replies? Stop listening to the devil singing into your ears. If you think this is all about ego I'm happy to take it to pm's. Just me and you.

I would put a curse on someone? Are you talking about the Prophets (saw) engagement with the Christians of his period? Invoking Gods wrath on the party who was in the wrong? It is interesting this deal was made 1400 years ago. Roughly 600 years after Jesus walked. Even the people back then were not 100% sure of man worship and rejected this challenge.

But yet those today, with a much more edited book.. well, they won't take it either. If you are 100% sure you are on the truth.. then why not?
Like it or not, if we both died today upon our current beliefs, it is clear one of us will know eternal torment. While your book, denies your beliefs.


You think its hilarious Maldarker, but the reality is, Islam has the proofs. Things i have mentioned such as there only being 1 Quran, even when the haters are in the millions or signs of the hour coming true in our own time are only a drop in the bucket. There is much more.
Feel free to ignore it all, after all it is your free will.

Peace.

 

[Daze]

I understood your post. I don't know if it was clear, what I said is that despite finding Catholicism the most correct religion, God has made positive projects with Muslims and Protestants, and maybe even with other religions.

I see. Well all 3 faiths, Judaism, Christianity and Islam all worshiped the God of Abraham in the beginning.

Of course you are gonna find positive things in what remains of what God has sent down. The problem is the edits man has made. Such as interest or pork being common examples. Things God has clearly forbid.. have been made "permissible" today.

There is truth in all 3. Those who fall upon the religion of Adam only do so by the will of the Almighty. May He guide us all to the truth.

 

[Maldarker]

Yes, the "devil example" is valid. But this is why we look for tangible truths Maldarker. Not indoctriantion and confirmation bias. Things we can see today that were prophesied over a millennium ago. Such as the deserts turning green. Today we can see it clearly. It is irrefutable.


If you prayed the way Jesus did you'd be upon the truth. This is how i know because God guides those who are sincere. Is this not the reality of your prayer?
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I know when i was a Christian it was typical to lean over the bed and pray. Lower your head at dinner for grace, ect.. Never did i put my head on the ground in 30 years.

While according to your book Maldarker, this is how Jesus prayed.
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Do you spot the difference? And it was not my intent to post a Muslim here. I looked through Christian prayer images and did not find a single one with face on the ground.

Your right, its none of my business how you pray. While I'm kinda of surprised you are offended by this, it is my job to call to the truth. If i see clear deviance then i am obligated to point it out. Much like when you see a thief stealing someones purse you are at minimum required to call out altering others.



I'm not saying i know you. Just that man worship is wrong. We can both agree the Hindus are on a bad path with their multitude of Gods. Have you not considered you will be raised amongst them on judgement day? Jesus says clearly God is one and if I said Jesus you'd picture him. If i said God the father you'd picture a completely different image and if i said Holy ghost, still, you'd picture a 3rd, completely different image.

Your one god literally has 3 separate names and 3 separate image all with opposing wills. Do you not see a problem with this?

Have you considered 3 in 1 gods were common amongst pagans back then? Consider Easter, X-mas, clearly there is paganism in Christianity whether you accept it or not. While a child, a 4 year old can tell you 1+1+1 does not equal 1.



If i didn't care, then why am i putting time and effort into these replies? Stop listening to the devil singing into your ears. If you think this is all about ego I'm happy to take it to pm's. Just me and you.

I would put a curse on someone? Are you talking about the Prophets (saw) engagement with the Christians of his period? Invoking Gods wrath on the party who was in the wrong? It is interesting this deal was made 1400 years ago. Roughly 600 years after Jesus walked. Even the people back then were not 100% sure of man worship and rejected this challenge.

But yet those today, with a much more edited book.. well, they won't take it either. If you are 100% sure you are on the truth.. then why not?
Like it or not, if we both died today upon our current beliefs, it is clear one of us will know eternal torment. While your book, denies your beliefs.


You think its hilarious Maldarker, but the reality is, Islam has the proofs. Things i have mentioned such as there only being 1 Quran, even when the haters are in the millions or signs of the hour coming true in our own time are only a drop in the bucket. There is much more.
Feel free to ignore it all, after all it is your free will.

Peace.

OY VEY!!! Biblical prophecy has almost 100% been fulfilled the last bit is still to come then 100% thats proof, Nothing hilarious about you being about as stiff necked as the jews of JESUS's time i get it the indoctrination & all. I'm ready to stand for my faith are you. You keep going on about eternal torment maybe that fixation is trying to tell you something about the doubt in yourself. I don't have doubt i know where i'm going see i have a promise from GOD what do you have? Just remember this on that day :

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Pretty clear there isn't DAZE. You will be in a Daze when the day of the Lord Comes aka if you don't understand its (divine judgments that will take place at the end of the age ). GOD BLESS!

BTW HERE is the NAMEs of GOD its titles that GOD has (I know hard to figure out not?):

Genesis – Jesus is our Creator

Exodus – He is the Passover Lamb

Leviticus – High Priest

Numbers – Water in the desert

Deuteronomy – He is our Eagles wings of deliverance

Joshua – Commander of the army of the Lord

Judges – He is the Lord of Peace

Ruth – He is our Redeemer

1 Samuel –He is the Prophet, Priest and King

2 Samuel – Rock of Salvation

1 Kings – Builder of a temple that will never fall

2 Kings – He is the reigning King

1 Chronicles – Son of David that is coming to rule

2 Chronicles – the King who reigns eternally

Ezra – Priest proclaiming freedom

Nehemiah – the One who restores what is broken

Esther – Protector of his people

Job – Mediator between God and man

Psalms – He is our song in the morning and in the night

Proverbs – our Wisdom and Strong Tower!

Ecclesiastes – our meaning for life

Song of Solomon – Author of faithful love

Isaiah – He is our Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace

Jeremiah – the weeping Messiah

Lamentations – He assumes God’s wrath for us

Ezekiel – Son of Man

Daniel – He is the Son of God with us in the fiery furnace

Hosea – Faithful husband even when we run away

Joel – He is the baptizer of the Holy Spirit

Amos – delivers justice to the oppressed

Obadiah – He is Mighty to Save

Jonah – The great missionary

Micah – He casts our sin into the sea of forgetfulness

Nahum – He proclaims future world peace

Habakkuk – He crushes injustice

Zephaniah – He’s the Warrior who saves

Haggai – He restores our worship

Zechariah – He is Lord and King over all the earth

Malachi – Sun of righteousness who brings healing

Matthew – The Messiah who is King

Mark – The Messiah who is a Servant

Luke – The Messiah who is a Deliverer

John – The Messiah who is a God in the flesh

Acts – The Spirit who dwells in His people

Romans – The Power of God unto salvation

1 Corinthians – He is our conqueror over death; Our resurrection!

2 Corinthians – He is the down payment of what’s to come

Galatians – He is our inheritance

Ephesians – He is our peace at the right hand of the Father

Philippians – He is the God that supplies all our needs

Colossians – He holds the supreme position in all things

1 Thessalonians – He is our comfort in the last days

2 Thessalonians – He is our returning King

1 Timothy – He is our Crown of Righteousness

2 Timothy – He is Christ our Helper

Titus – He is our Hope

Philemon – He is a friend that sticks closer than a brother

Hebrews – He is our High Priest

James – He is the Great Physician

1 Peter – He is our hope in times of suffering

2 Peter – He is the restorer of all things

1 John – He is our Love and Light

2 John – He is Christ come in the flesh

3 John – He is our prosperity, health and peace

Jude – Jesus is the Lord coming with 10,000 of his believers

Revelation – Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords,

The Alpha and the Omega, The Beginning and the End, and

He is coming again and the One who makes all things new!



As for this:

Your right, its none of my business how you pray. While I'm kinda of surprised you are offended by this, it is my job to call to the truth. If i see clear deviance then i am obligated to point it out. Much like when you see a thief stealing someones purse you are at minimum required to call out altering others.

My response to you:

I have been on the ground in prostrate crying out to the MOST HIGH....I just don't do it in public. And this is my personal reason....
The wrong motive for prayer is praying to be seen or heard by other people. Praying—even loving to pray—is not a sign that a person really knows God. Christ says that people who pray to be seen or heard by others love to pray, but they are hypocrites. They may experience good feelings and satisfying thoughts about their spiritual state and religious devoutness, but in this case it is a false self-image. A person who prays to receive recognition misses out on the most intimate presence in the universe.


The right motive for prayer is praying to be heard by God. Christ says that a person who is genuine prays to be heard by God and not by others. In other words, pray as if you are unobserved, undisturbed, and unheard by anyone other than God Himself. The willingness to take time to pray is a beautiful act of reverence. Too few ever take time to pray, and even fewer spend more than scant minutes in prayer. God is available to us just as fathers are available to their children. We are to go to Him, pray, share, commune and let Him shower us with His care and protection and meet our every need (Ps. 91:1).

 

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My response to you:

I have been on the ground in prostrate crying out to the MOST HIGH....I just don't do it in public. And this is my personal reason....
The wrong motive for prayer is praying to be seen or heard by other people. Praying—even loving to pray—is not a sign that a person really knows God. Christ says that people who pray to be seen or heard by others love to pray, but they are hypocrites. They may experience good feelings and satisfying thoughts about their spiritual state and religious devoutness, but in this case it is a false self-image. A person who prays to receive recognition misses out on the most intimate presence in the universe.


The right motive for prayer is praying to be heard by God. Christ says that a person who is genuine prays to be heard by God and not by others. In other words, pray as if you are unobserved, undisturbed, and unheard by anyone other than God Himself. The willingness to take time to pray is a beautiful act of reverence. Too few ever take time to pray, and even fewer spend more than scant minutes in prayer. God is available to us just as fathers are available to their children. We are to go to Him, pray, share, commune and let Him shower us with His care and protection and meet our every need (Ps. 91:1).

Tell me, the Hindu who prays to Kali, is he ever finding truth? Is he getting to know God?

Problem is you don't call on God the father alone. You think his prophet, whom he created.
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself. (John 5:26)
Is God incarnate.

Now if i was you and i called upon Kali and Jesus is my prayer ever gonna be answered? Even if i believed strongly they were both god incarnate?


Idk what it is. The truth is no one finds God unless he wills it. Had God willed every man, woman and child would be a believer. But we are not. As a people we are divided. So what is the reason for this? If it is not arrogance or ego then cognitive dissonance? Idk, help me out here.

When Jesus says he does not know when the hour is, yet knowledge itself comes from God. Is it possible for anyone to know anything that did not source from God? How can there be anything within existence that is outside of God's knowledge? God knows when the Hour is. Jesus doesn't because he is not god.


While i certainly don't have all the answers i think turning to the Creator himself, will eventually lead one to Him and his path. This is why i often recommend prayer, asking God himself to show you truth. ..and i recommend the way Jesus prayed in your Bible. The way the first Christians used to pray. The way Muslims pray today.

I never meant to imply you weren't sincere in prayer.. But if you worship a man who literally told everyone he is a prophet. There is a problem there. If you pray to one who is not divine, it will only distance you from the truth. In fact it earns Gods wrath. Gratitude owed to Him is given to his creation. While you might see a problem with invoking His curse in this life what do you think you are running to? Indeed to God we all belong and to God is the return.

Scary thing is the Quran says those who worship Jesus will be in hell. This might mean nothing to you, but when you look into the miracles of the Quran itself and the proofs in Islam.. Clearly the Quran has a divine source. It is obviously from the God of Abraham. Idk, what can happen without Gods will? While you live and breathe today you have a chance to seek truth. If you think you already have it? Then God help you for the deviance is clear to even your own brothers of faith who say Jesus is not divine.

There is no god but God Maldarker. May He guide you.

 

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Can you not take a look in the mirror? What kind of "serious" question is surrounded by insults? Is it your vile nature or has your devil completely taken over and that's who I'm talking to? You calling my prophet a pedo is alot like me calling your mother a whore. What kind of response can i expect from you if i did such a thing? Could we ever have a serious convo while i called your mother a whore in every 3rd sentence?

You don't get it. Well over a billion people respect this man and would sacrifice there own children for him and you come out with the worst slander against him, something that has been answered time and time again. Do you think its a coincidence that Muhammad is the most popular name on the planet? Do you ever reflect?

I could go into 80 year old Joseph and 12 year old Mary but i don't because what purpose does it serve? How does slander benefit me in anyway shape or form? Everyone here can see i do nothing more then quote Your book and it brings out the worst in you.. which you probably think is a good respectable side? Like you completely ignored the line i mentioned above how you and seek are the worst Christians here. Just absolutely vile.

You're not worth my time Floss.. You never were. I merely reply to you so everyone else can see what a vile person you are and you are exactly what man worship leads to.

Peace.

"Well over a billion people respect this man and would sacrifice there own children for him"
That wsnt asked of you, but its a revealing statement nonetheless.

 

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"Well over a billion people respect this man and would sacrifice there own children for him"
That wsnt asked of you, but its a revealing statement nonetheless.

Edit: My apologies, i misread your post. The prophet (saw) never sought praise. This is true, but neither does your mother. Yet the vast majority only has kind words for their mother.