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e-Enoch

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Gender determination/biological determination of sex at birth is usually made by doctors or obstetricians... penis = boys and vulva = girls... In rare occasions some may physiologically have both...and they are labeled "intersex..."

These gender determinations at birth may be entirely different from what the person feels...and that's gender identity...

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Sex Assigned at Birth and Gender Identity: What Is The Difference?

A person’s sex assigned at birth, gender identity and gender expression can all be different. Who someone is attracted to—their sexual orientation—is not related to sex assigned at birth, gender identity or gender expression. Everyone has a sex assigned at birth, a gender identity and a sexual...
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Asahiisback

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GmAry said:
They should tell us for once that who is the most handsome.

Someday taehyung is declared most handsome man in world.

Jungkook trends as sexiest man.

Now Mr. WWH has been declared as most handsome man of 21st century. I mean 21st century still has 79 more years. 21st century my foot.
So much confusion!!
Tomorrow they will declare princess joon as most handsome.
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I would not be surprised if this happen
 
Laura755y

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tzollld said:
Not all girls can have periods though ?
I dont wanna derail the thread and this will be probably the last time that I will chime in in the lgbtq+ debates that periodically keep re emerging on here.
If all you reduce womanhood to is the ability to menstruate and have children, then on the basis of that argument, according to that narrow definition, millions of people would no longer fit that definition of womanhood, since there are literall thousands if not millions of women, who for whatever multitude of reasons can not menstruate or birth children.
And what about women who choose to remove their uterus (some choose to do that), what would that make them ?
Just something ?

I'm honestly shocked about the continous and blatant ridicule and dehumanising language that people keep on openly using in reference to trans and non-conforming folk on here.
Talking about love, loving your neighbour, all that stuff, but then making fun of other people just because their struggle is outside of your realm of struggle. Most people are so comfortable with the body they are born in, that they refuse to even believe that a minority of people might not feel that way. But some people do. And it is, and should be, perfectly within their rights to do with their body as they please. Others don't have to agree, but quite frankly it is weird to "disagree" with something, that would drastically improve peoples quality of life.
Most people do feel more fulfilled after transition, for some it is not right, and it shouldn't be done without careful thought.

I could go on and on but I don't wanna derail or vent too much, and I dont wanna start a mini war on here.
I know a lot of people on here are religious and reject lgbtq+ , and I am fine and accepting with it, but not if ppl are gonna feel the need to proudly proclaim their disgust or ridicule for trans and other folk, like every 10 pages or so.
Not saying that you specifically did that, but some ppl here do do it, maybe not quite so explicitly, but the implied feeling of disgust becomes pretty clear.
I just replied to your message specifically, because the definition that all girls menstruate, is first of all, not factually true, and secondly, would eliminate millions of women the ability to define themselves as woman.

There is an agenda to lgbtq+, I would not deny it. A lot of it, really isn't good, and it does confuse a lot of the younger generation.
That I dont find good.
But that does not justify shi*ting on, and laughing about real trans and non-binary folk, for whom most, these issues are a hard, life long struggles, that too often ends up in bullying, abuse, hate crimes and worst, suic*dal tendencies.
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Its ur opinion, that i totally respect,
for me , im against transgender, who were born as female , change to male, and vise versa, the one who made it like some sort of trend, and some who do it in return of money...
I did not made fun of people who were born like @e-Enoch said "intersex..." ,
I know there is female who cant have period, my cousin is one of them, but she do have genitals that defined her sex, and that is what i implied.
i didnt say im disgust, but im disgust when they try to shove it down kids , people's (in general) throat. Making a human put under pressure, and confusin, especially with all the social medias rn.
And im not trying to creat a mini war too, i totally respect ur opinion, im not always right, and i like to know other people's point of vue.
And u were right i shouldve been more precise.
 
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Jn isnt even the best looking guy in btss much less the world

I hate those kind of polls cuz no one has seen all the men in the world and best believe the truly naturally handsome men in this world are not famous

Jn is a good looking guy but his fake child like persona is so not attractive ,what's attractive about a grown ass 30 y.o man in pigtails
 
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Berrywon88

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tzollld said:
Not all girls can have periods though ?
I dont wanna derail the thread and this will be probably the last time that I will chime in in the lgbtq+ debates that periodically keep re emerging on here.
If all you reduce womanhood to is the ability to menstruate and have children, then on the basis of that argument, according to that narrow definition, millions of people would no longer fit that definition of womanhood, since there are literall thousands if not millions of women, who for whatever multitude of reasons can not menstruate or birth children.
And what about women who choose to remove their uterus (some choose to do that), what would that make them ?
Just something ?

I'm honestly shocked about the continous and blatant ridicule and dehumanising language that people keep on openly using in reference to trans and non-conforming folk on here.
Talking about love, loving your neighbour, all that stuff, but then making fun of other people just because their struggle is outside of your realm of struggle. Most people are so comfortable with the body they are born in, that they refuse to even believe that a minority of people might not feel that way. But some people do. And it is, and should be, perfectly within their rights to do with their body as they please. Others don't have to agree, but quite frankly it is weird to "disagree" with something, that would drastically improve peoples quality of life.
Most people do feel more fulfilled after transition, for some it is not right, and it shouldn't be done without careful thought.

I could go on and on but I don't wanna derail or vent too much, and I dont wanna start a mini war on here.
I know a lot of people on here are religious and reject lgbtq+ , and I am fine and accepting with it, but not if ppl are gonna feel the need to proudly proclaim their disgust or ridicule for trans and other folk, like every 10 pages or so.
Not saying that you specifically did that, but some ppl here do do it, maybe not quite so explicitly, but the implied feeling of disgust becomes pretty clear.
I just replied to your message specifically, because the definition that all girls menstruate, is first of all, not factually true, and secondly, would eliminate millions of women the ability to define themselves as woman.

There is an agenda to lgbtq+, I would not deny it. A lot of it, really isn't good, and it does confuse a lot of the younger generation.
That I dont find good.
But that does not justify shi*ting on, and laughing about real trans and non-binary folk, for whom most, these issues are a hard, life long struggles, that too often ends up in bullying, abuse, hate crimes and worst, suic*dal tendencies.
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Who's laughing at trans people?? Who even mentioned trans people other than you just now? And what is "non-conforming folks?" I don't understand this gen z woke jargon, which is what I was talking about earlier.
 
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Berrywon88 said:
Who's laughing at trans people?? Who even mentioned trans people other than you just now? And what is "non-conforming folks?" I don't understand this gen z woke jargon, which is what I was talking about earlier.
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the question of whether certain members of the kpop world are trans has come up on here countless times, since you are a pretty active member on here,I am sure you are aware of that.
So, transness, the question whether someone is or isn't, is an ongoing topic of debate that comes up here.
And I was simply responding to it, adding my 2 cents so to speak.

Actually I wanna add another really important point tho that I havent mentioned yet.
The thing with this whole gender debate that a lot of ppl dont realise, is, they WANT us to fight with each other over it.
They want to divide, and infuriate us, so that we WASTE our time, discussing things, while they happily continue their activities.
It is a strategic tactic, that they keep flooding media with particularly divisive, or cringy examples of the gender debate.

So that we bite each others head off in anger, and are further divided.
 
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GmAry said:
You know after watching all this shit armys are posting I can't even get angry I just start laughing. My mental health is deteriorating o_O and jk is also trending for such reasons and not for his work. Oh God. Why am I here.
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A lot of people here didn't understand at the beggining why I was always laughing when I put some contents created by Armys. But we are ohliged to. Because they have so much imagination to deal with. They are crazy as hell xD so most of the time I am laughing too. I don't even have the anger in me, because I understand what type of persons we are dealing with. Completly fools.

Their edits and their titles are just gold.
 
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taepeach said:
fans literally see jm as a girl :confused:
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Difficult to not to and still, you are very nice, this man is just considered like a bitch. I know the term is high but it's his role in the group. Seriously when you see contents like this :

( this man is disgusting. James Corden's son I swear)

https://youtube.com/shorts/du8IWMtCVnA?feature=share ( If he looks like that to others predators just no wonder why is unfortunately considered like a slut)

https://youtube.com/shorts/M2FayGbWrwg?feature=share ( OK. I will be honest. I didn't laugh about his mk ultra behavior. No at all. But I wasn't ready for the edge lord. Dude was exhausted and was like please girl just get away. Please just go far away of me xD)
 
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