What's happening in Israel? - Israeli & Jewish Friendly (NO ANTISEMITISM)

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Fun fact, Israel harms a semite practically weekly. Seeing a semite is literally one who speaks an Aramaic language.. Palestinians are semites.

Its not anti-semitism, its anti occupation. Really, this has been going on for decades. It came to my attention when an Israeli setttler decided to run over Rachel Corre with a bulldozer. Broad daylight, protester, lost her life. The murderer literally walked away with not even a slap on the wrist.

The atrocities since literally fill volumes.

From Israels refusing to allow the wrong color to walk down a street to spraying sewage on peoples homes, the apartheid state is indefensible.

Take your hasbarah somewhere else.
 

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I do not understand the anti-Semitism in the conspiracy community. I would like to share some resources I have found.

Good Resources
The Jewish Virtual Library - learn Jewish history, customs, and beliefs.​
Myths and Facts about Israel - Highly Recommended!

Jewish Perspective on News
Information
Honest Reporting of Israel

Wow...Why are you posting links to zionist black propaganda sites?
 

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Wow...Why are you posting links to zionist black propaganda sites?
They don't have a seething hatred for Jews. Show me from one of the links where Jews show any murderous hatred towards non Jews.
 

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Fun fact, Israel harms a semite practically weekly. Seeing a semite is literally one who speaks an Aramaic language.. Palestinians are semites.
Aramaic is spoken by Jews and not Arabs.

"Its not anti-semitism, its anti occupation. Really, this has been going on for decades. It came to my attention when an Israeli setttler decided to run over Rachel Corre with a bulldozer. Broad daylight, protester, lost her life. The murderer literally walked away with not even a slap on the wrist."

It was not an Israeli "settler." It was a military operation to uncover explosives.

"Corrie was in the Gaza Strip on behalf of the ISM at the height of the Second Intifada. That Palestinian-led organization uses foreign nationals as bait, deliberately placing them in volatile situations certain in the knowledge that Israel will be blamed if they are subsequently injured or killed. In an interview the day Corrie died, Thom Saffold, a founder of the ISM, said: “It’s possible they [the protesters] were not as disciplined as we would have liked. But we’re like a peace army. Generals send young men and women off to operations, and some die.”​
"When the involved bulldozer turned and pushed a large pile of debris, Corrie was kneeling on the ground and was in a blind spot of the operator’s field of vision, behind the bulldozer’s shovel and the pile of dirt. Accordingly, as the judge found, there was no way in which the bulldozer driver could have seen Corrie. "​

"From Israels refusing to allow the wrong color to walk down a street to spraying sewage on peoples homes, the apartheid state is indefensible."

References please, not hearsay.
 

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Source: The Jerusalem Post 12/20/21


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Within only 30 minutes of operating the device, an 87.9% level of reduction in the concentration of the virus in the air was recorded; after 60 minutes this level of reduction reached 99.8% and after 90 minutes it reached a level of 99.99%. The company believes that the test results are indicative of the Air Care O2 technology’s ability to be the most effective means of maintaining air quality and reducing the amount of bacteria and viruses, including the coronavirus, in closed spaces.....​
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Show me from one of the links where Jews show any murderous hatred towards non Jews.
I can already see that 'dodgeball' is your zionist superpower. I'll answer you anyway. The job of your propaganda sites is to defend, not call for, the killing of Palestinians.

In the other thread, which i don't want you to derail, you left this link John Dugard Anti-Israel Diatribe Ignores International Law in which the writer states, "Dugard asserts that Israel occupies Palestine but in the third sentence says that the Palestinians have no State. "

If you actually understand what Dugard was saying then you would also understand that your source is talking mince. Dugard is simply talking about 'effective control' when he says Palestinians 'have no state'. Israel, as the belligerent occupier, has the 'effective control' however that effective control does not negate the Palestinian right to self determination ie. an independant state.

Your source talks more mince when he states, "When Jordan’s attack on Israel in 1967 was defeated, Israel came into control of the West Bank, which was then legally ceded by Jordan about another 19 years later. "

Palestine was never Jordan's to cede to anyone legally or otherwise.
 

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Hi Stuckey,
I can already see that 'dodgeball' is your zionist superpower.
This thread is about Israeli & Jewish news. I was told I wasn't welcome so I left. You are quoting from the Palestinian post. I will answer you over there.
 

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You are quoting from the Palestinian post. I will answer you over there.

No you wont. I stated clearly, clearly, "In the other thread, which i don't want you to derail "

This is your thread....stay here! Don't go derailing anyone else's thread.
 

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No you wont. I stated clearly, clearly, "In the other thread, which i don't want you to derail "

This is your thread....stay here! Don't go derailing anyone else's thread.
Hmm then why did you come here? You want drama on your other thread clearly.
 

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I can already see that 'dodgeball' is your zionist superpower. I'll answer you anyway. The job of your propaganda sites is to defend, not call for, the killing of Palestinians.

In the other thread, which i don't want you to derail, you left this link John Dugard Anti-Israel Diatribe Ignores International Law in which the writer states, "Dugard asserts that Israel occupies Palestine but in the third sentence says that the Palestinians have no State. "

If you actually understand what Dugard was saying then you would also understand that your source is talking mince. Dugard is simply talking about 'effective control' when he says Palestinians 'have no state'. Israel, as the belligerent occupier, has the 'effective control' however that effective control does not negate the Palestinian right to self determination ie. an independant state.

Your source talks more mince when he states, "When Jordan’s attack on Israel in 1967 was defeated, Israel came into control of the West Bank, which was then legally ceded by Jordan about another 19 years later. "

Palestine was never Jordan's to cede to anyone legally or otherwise.
The word Palestine is a perversion of Philistine the name of an ancient people that lived in the Gaza area. The Philistines were an Aegean (Cypriot) people that became extinct nearly 3,000 years ago. They didn’t refer to themselves as Philistines as this was the Jewish term for them. The Hebrew bible refers to them as “Palishtim” which means “invaders” (this was later translated into Latin as Philistinus), ironically, in an attempt to claim they’re indigenous the Palestinians named their national movement after a people that were not indigenous.

philistine-was-not-palestine


Wasn’t there a country called Syria-Palestina?
2,000 years ago the region was under Roman occupation and between the years 66 and 132 CE the Jews waged continuous rebellions against the Romans. Upon crushing the Jewish Revolt of 132 CE the Romans exiled the majority of the Jews and renamed Israel “Syria-Palestina”. The idea was to erase the Jewish presence from Israel by exiling and renaming their homeland after their Biblical enemies. It was a final humiliation.

Geographically Syria-Palestina stretched from Egypt to Turkey and from Israel to Jordan, it had a diverse demography but with the Jews exiled the majority population was Phoenician, Greek and Roman… not Arab, like the Palestinians of today.

syria-palestina-in-roman-times


Where does the word Palestine come from then?
Various empires came and went in the Middle East, each of them swallowing up this tiny tract of land. Some of these empires preserved the Roman names of Syria and Palestina using them as provincial labels. By the 17th the name had almost dropped out of common parlance in the Muslim world (which favoured the names Syria and Southern Syria for that region). The name was largely kept alive by Europeans who continued the Roman tradition of calling the region Palestine.2

One of the longest empires to control the land was the Turkish Ottoman Empire which stood for 400 years (1517 – 1917). They divided their empire into provinces, but there was no province of Palestine, instead there was the Sanjak of Nablus, the Sanjak and of Acre and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem. When referring to this region collectively the Ottomans preferred the term Southern Syria and on very rare occasions Palestine (Filastin), but this was not an identity the inhabitants of the region ever adopted, they remained aligned to their religious identities.

ottoman-sanjak-jerusalem-acre-nablus


After the Ottoman Empire was defeated in World War I the conquering European powers divided the land and labelled part of it Palestine – resurrecting the European name for the region. The borders of the British Mandate of Palestine bore no resemblance to the Roman province and instead incorporated all of Jordan, Israel, Gaza and the West Bank.

The term was so sparsely used that in 1937 a Nablus born proto-Palestinian leader declared:

There is no such country as Palestine! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria.
– Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi 3

If Palestine were the name of the country his people originated from, why would he, one of the most prominent leaders of the anti-Zionist movement, be so unfamiliar with it that he believed it to be a Zionist creation? His confusion stemmed from the fact that many of the early Zionist organisations adopted the European term Palestine (such as the Palestine Wine Company) and very few Arabs used the term.

british-mandate-of-palestine-un-partition-proposal-1947


Furthermore if the British Mandate of Palestine included Jordan (a country three times the size of Israel and the disputed territories) why is there no movement to free Palestine from Jordan? This is probably best explained by King Hussein of Jordan “The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan”.4 There was never a country called Jordan which is another corruption of Hebrew (“trans” is latin for “beyond”, while “Jordan” is a latin for the Hebrew name of the river “Yarden”). Palestine and Jordan never existed and their leaders saw them as one entity – there is nothing which made the two distinct.

There was never a country called Palestine, check the timeline:
  • Pre 1272 BCE
    Canaanite kingdoms
  • 1272 BCE
    Kingdom of Israel, its rulers were Jewish.
  • 1272 BCE
    Israel splits into two Jewish Kingdoms (Judea and Israel)
  • 510 BCE
    Babylonians conquer Israel
  • 333 BCE
    Greek Seleucids conquer Israel
  • 174 BCE
    Jewish Hasmoneans re-establish Israel
  • 73 CE
    Romans conquer Israel, they rename an area which stretches from Turkey to Egypt as Syria-Palestina. This was a province of the Roman empire and had no connection to modern day Palestine or the Palestinians
  • 330 CE
    The area becomes part of the Christian Byzantine Empire, a Greek empire.
  • 650 CE
    Umayyad Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Arab empire
  • 750 CE
    Abbasid Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Arab empire
  • 868 CE
    Tulunid Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Turkish empire
  • 905 CE
    Abbasid Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Arab empire
  • 969 CE
    Fatimid Shia Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Arab empire
  • 1099 CE
    Christian Crusaders conquer Israel, incorporating it into their European empire
  • 1187 CE
    Ayyubid Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Kurdish empire
  • 1250 CE
    Bahri Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Turkish empire
  • 1382 CE
    Burji Sunni Muslims conquer Israel
  • 1517 CE
    Ottoman Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Turkish empire
  • 1917 CE
    Britain conquers Israel from the Ottomans in Israel
  • 1920 CE
    Britain awarded Mandate over the region by the League of Nations
  • 1945 CE
    Britain hands political decision making for Mandate over to the United Nations
  • 1947 CE
    The United of Nations voted to partition the land into Jewish and Arab States
  • 1948 CE
    Britain pulls out of the Mandate. The Jews declare independence, the Arabs reject the partition plan and several Arab nations invade Israel. The Palestinians refuse to declare independence.
    • The Jordanians conquer the West Bank and make it part of Jordan, granting all the Arabs Jordanian citizenship. They do not establish a Palestinian state.
    • The Egyptians conquer the Gaza Strip but and also fail to establish a Palestinian state (they do setup a pseudo-Palestinian government which they later shut down).
How these empires looked:

historical-sovereignty-of-israel-in-maps


There may not have been a country, but perhaps there was people
Many will argue that although there was never a country called Palestine, there were a people that lived there for thousands of years. This is a gross distortion of Palestinian nationalism and the history of the Levant.

  • The Palestinians are not an ancient people
  • Before the 60s they were not a national people
Most Palestinians today descend from recent migrants to region, the majority of the population were attracted to the economic opporutnities Zionist and British enterprise created.

The strive for Palestinian self-determination is unlike any other in history. Usually self-determination requires a people in an area determining their own political independence. If we look at some of the more notable examples in modern history:

  • Kurdistan
    The Kurds are an ethnic group, they have a shared history, language and culture that make them distinct from the ethnicities that surround them.
  • Chechnya
    The Chechens are also an ethnic group, they have a shared history, language and culture that make them distinct from the ethnicities that surround them.
  • Basque Country
    The Basques are an ethnic group, they have a shared history, language and culture that make them distinct from the ethnicities that surround them.
The Palestinians are not and never were a distinct people. They are a mixed multitude of people that settled in the region over the centuries (it should be noted the majority descend from recent migrants). A Greek Orthodox Christian whose forefather came from Europe does not belong to the same ethnic group as a Sunni Muslim whose forefathers came from Arabia.

Before 1900 there is no example of these groups Jews, Samaritan Jews, Karaite Jews, Arab Muslims, Arab Bedouins, Arab Ahmadis, Arab Christians, Arab Druze, Aramean Christian, Assyrian Christians, Greek Christians, Russian Christians, Catholic Christians, Armenian Christians, Circassian Christians and Baha’is collectively referring to themselves as “Palestinians”.

It is foolish to force these ethnicities together and claim them to be the same people. To understand what we mean by this, there is no Palestinian language, no Palestinian culture, no Palestinian history and before the birth of Zionism – there were no Palestinian people.

In the 1960s the anti-Zionist movement presented the “Palestinian” identity as the national identity of the indigenous people of the land. However, this was a complete fabrication as their leaders brazenly declared:

[T]he Palestinian people have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them that identity through conflict with Israel.
– Yasser Arafat 5

Today millions of people have taken on this identity and their right to do this should be respected. However, to present this identity as being an ancient one is dishonest.

You can read more about the fabrication of the Palestinian people here.

Palestine may have been diverse but it was an Arab land
We often hear that Palestine has always been an Arab country, what they mean is that Palestine has always been under Arab rule. The biggest problem with this logic is that it suggests that if a minority have oppressed the majority – the majority should be denied the right to self-determination. In the case of Israel/Palestine it is absolutely incorrect. The two ethnic groups that have ruled the land longer than any other are Jews and Turks.

ethnic-groups-that-have-ruled-israel


In fact when we look at how long each dynasty has ruled the land, it is strikingly obvious that the Jews reigned longer than any other people in the land. They are also the people with the oldest and strongest claim to sovereignty over the land. Despite this, they have always been willing to share the land.

how-long-each-dynasty-has-ruled-israel


Wasn’t there a country called Palestine between 1917 and 1947
No, British mandatory Palestine was never a country – it was a Mandate that was awarded to Britain so that Britain could help the Jewish people in that region to establish a Jewish National Home. Many objects and businesses from that period that mention Palestine are often flaunted as proof that there was a country called Palestine, we would like to dispel some of these myths below:

palestine-brigade


palestine-currency-board


palestine-post


palestine-checkpoint


palestine-airways-hebrew
\\

palestine-stamp-hebrew-arabic


palestine-coin-hebrew-arabic


Summary
  • There was never a country called Palestine
    • Philistine was the Hebrew word for an ancient people with no connection to the Palestinians
    • Syria-Palestina was a Roman province which bore no resemblance to Palestine people present today
    • British Mandatory Palestine was not a country, but an entity that was invented by the international community to help establish a Jewish National Home
  • Jews are the ethnic group that ruled the land for the longest
  • There was never a Palestinian people
    • Palestinian national identity was born in the 20th century
    • The inhabitants of the land had been very diverse and there was no language, history or culture that would tie them together as an ethnicity or a people
 

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Hmm then why did you come here? You want drama on your other thread clearly.
The other thread IS NOT MY THREAD..if you wish to take up the points i made then answer me here in your thread.
 

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The word Palestine is a perversion of Philistine the name of an ancient people that lived in the Gaza area. The Philistines were an Aegean (Cypriot) people that became extinct nearly 3,000 years ago. They didn’t refer to themselves as Philistines as this was the Jewish term for them. The Hebrew bible refers to them as “Palishtim” which means “invaders” (this was later translated into Latin as Philistinus), ironically, in an attempt to claim they’re indigenous the Palestinians named their national movement after a people that were not indigenous.

philistine-was-not-palestine


Wasn’t there a country called Syria-Palestina?
2,000 years ago the region was under Roman occupation and between the years 66 and 132 CE the Jews waged continuous rebellions against the Romans. Upon crushing the Jewish Revolt of 132 CE the Romans exiled the majority of the Jews and renamed Israel “Syria-Palestina”. The idea was to erase the Jewish presence from Israel by exiling and renaming their homeland after their Biblical enemies. It was a final humiliation.

Geographically Syria-Palestina stretched from Egypt to Turkey and from Israel to Jordan, it had a diverse demography but with the Jews exiled the majority population was Phoenician, Greek and Roman… not Arab, like the Palestinians of today.

syria-palestina-in-roman-times


Where does the word Palestine come from then?
Various empires came and went in the Middle East, each of them swallowing up this tiny tract of land. Some of these empires preserved the Roman names of Syria and Palestina using them as provincial labels. By the 17th the name had almost dropped out of common parlance in the Muslim world (which favoured the names Syria and Southern Syria for that region). The name was largely kept alive by Europeans who continued the Roman tradition of calling the region Palestine.2

One of the longest empires to control the land was the Turkish Ottoman Empire which stood for 400 years (1517 – 1917). They divided their empire into provinces, but there was no province of Palestine, instead there was the Sanjak of Nablus, the Sanjak and of Acre and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem. When referring to this region collectively the Ottomans preferred the term Southern Syria and on very rare occasions Palestine (Filastin), but this was not an identity the inhabitants of the region ever adopted, they remained aligned to their religious identities.

ottoman-sanjak-jerusalem-acre-nablus


After the Ottoman Empire was defeated in World War I the conquering European powers divided the land and labelled part of it Palestine – resurrecting the European name for the region. The borders of the British Mandate of Palestine bore no resemblance to the Roman province and instead incorporated all of Jordan, Israel, Gaza and the West Bank.

The term was so sparsely used that in 1937 a Nablus born proto-Palestinian leader declared:


– Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi 3

If Palestine were the name of the country his people originated from, why would he, one of the most prominent leaders of the anti-Zionist movement, be so unfamiliar with it that he believed it to be a Zionist creation? His confusion stemmed from the fact that many of the early Zionist organisations adopted the European term Palestine (such as the Palestine Wine Company) and very few Arabs used the term.

british-mandate-of-palestine-un-partition-proposal-1947


Furthermore if the British Mandate of Palestine included Jordan (a country three times the size of Israel and the disputed territories) why is there no movement to free Palestine from Jordan? This is probably best explained by King Hussein of Jordan “The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan”.4 There was never a country called Jordan which is another corruption of Hebrew (“trans” is latin for “beyond”, while “Jordan” is a latin for the Hebrew name of the river “Yarden”). Palestine and Jordan never existed and their leaders saw them as one entity – there is nothing which made the two distinct.

There was never a country called Palestine, check the timeline:
  • Pre 1272 BCE
    Canaanite kingdoms
  • 1272 BCE
    Kingdom of Israel, its rulers were Jewish.
  • 1272 BCE
    Israel splits into two Jewish Kingdoms (Judea and Israel)
  • 510 BCE
    Babylonians conquer Israel
  • 333 BCE
    Greek Seleucids conquer Israel
  • 174 BCE
    Jewish Hasmoneans re-establish Israel
  • 73 CE
    Romans conquer Israel, they rename an area which stretches from Turkey to Egypt as Syria-Palestina. This was a province of the Roman empire and had no connection to modern day Palestine or the Palestinians
  • 330 CE
    The area becomes part of the Christian Byzantine Empire, a Greek empire.
  • 650 CE
    Umayyad Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Arab empire
  • 750 CE
    Abbasid Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Arab empire
  • 868 CE
    Tulunid Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Turkish empire
  • 905 CE
    Abbasid Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Arab empire
  • 969 CE
    Fatimid Shia Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Arab empire
  • 1099 CE
    Christian Crusaders conquer Israel, incorporating it into their European empire
  • 1187 CE
    Ayyubid Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Kurdish empire
  • 1250 CE
    Bahri Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Turkish empire
  • 1382 CE
    Burji Sunni Muslims conquer Israel
  • 1517 CE
    Ottoman Sunni Muslims conquer Israel, incorporating it into their Turkish empire
  • 1917 CE
    Britain conquers Israel from the Ottomans in Israel
  • 1920 CE
    Britain awarded Mandate over the region by the League of Nations
  • 1945 CE
    Britain hands political decision making for Mandate over to the United Nations
  • 1947 CE
    The United of Nations voted to partition the land into Jewish and Arab States
  • 1948 CE
    Britain pulls out of the Mandate. The Jews declare independence, the Arabs reject the partition plan and several Arab nations invade Israel. The Palestinians refuse to declare independence.
    • The Jordanians conquer the West Bank and make it part of Jordan, granting all the Arabs Jordanian citizenship. They do not establish a Palestinian state.
    • The Egyptians conquer the Gaza Strip but and also fail to establish a Palestinian state (they do setup a pseudo-Palestinian government which they later shut down).
How these empires looked:

historical-sovereignty-of-israel-in-maps


There may not have been a country, but perhaps there was people
Many will argue that although there was never a country called Palestine, there were a people that lived there for thousands of years. This is a gross distortion of Palestinian nationalism and the history of the Levant.

  • The Palestinians are not an ancient people
  • Before the 60s they were not a national people
Most Palestinians today descend from recent migrants to region, the majority of the population were attracted to the economic opporutnities Zionist and British enterprise created.

The strive for Palestinian self-determination is unlike any other in history. Usually self-determination requires a people in an area determining their own political independence. If we look at some of the more notable examples in modern history:

  • Kurdistan
    The Kurds are an ethnic group, they have a shared history, language and culture that make them distinct from the ethnicities that surround them.
  • Chechnya
    The Chechens are also an ethnic group, they have a shared history, language and culture that make them distinct from the ethnicities that surround them.
  • Basque Country
    The Basques are an ethnic group, they have a shared history, language and culture that make them distinct from the ethnicities that surround them.
The Palestinians are not and never were a distinct people. They are a mixed multitude of people that settled in the region over the centuries (it should be noted the majority descend from recent migrants). A Greek Orthodox Christian whose forefather came from Europe does not belong to the same ethnic group as a Sunni Muslim whose forefathers came from Arabia.

Before 1900 there is no example of these groups Jews, Samaritan Jews, Karaite Jews, Arab Muslims, Arab Bedouins, Arab Ahmadis, Arab Christians, Arab Druze, Aramean Christian, Assyrian Christians, Greek Christians, Russian Christians, Catholic Christians, Armenian Christians, Circassian Christians and Baha’is collectively referring to themselves as “Palestinians”.

It is foolish to force these ethnicities together and claim them to be the same people. To understand what we mean by this, there is no Palestinian language, no Palestinian culture, no Palestinian history and before the birth of Zionism – there were no Palestinian people.

In the 1960s the anti-Zionist movement presented the “Palestinian” identity as the national identity of the indigenous people of the land. However, this was a complete fabrication as their leaders brazenly declared:


– Yasser Arafat 5

Today millions of people have taken on this identity and their right to do this should be respected. However, to present this identity as being an ancient one is dishonest.

You can read more about the fabrication of the Palestinian people here.

Palestine may have been diverse but it was an Arab land
We often hear that Palestine has always been an Arab country, what they mean is that Palestine has always been under Arab rule. The biggest problem with this logic is that it suggests that if a minority have oppressed the majority – the majority should be denied the right to self-determination. In the case of Israel/Palestine it is absolutely incorrect. The two ethnic groups that have ruled the land longer than any other are Jews and Turks.

ethnic-groups-that-have-ruled-israel


In fact when we look at how long each dynasty has ruled the land, it is strikingly obvious that the Jews reigned longer than any other people in the land. They are also the people with the oldest and strongest claim to sovereignty over the land. Despite this, they have always been willing to share the land.

how-long-each-dynasty-has-ruled-israel


Wasn’t there a country called Palestine between 1917 and 1947
No, British mandatory Palestine was never a country – it was a Mandate that was awarded to Britain so that Britain could help the Jewish people in that region to establish a Jewish National Home. Many objects and businesses from that period that mention Palestine are often flaunted as proof that there was a country called Palestine, we would like to dispel some of these myths below:

palestine-brigade


palestine-currency-board


palestine-post


palestine-checkpoint


palestine-airways-hebrew
\\

palestine-stamp-hebrew-arabic


palestine-coin-hebrew-arabic


Summary
  • There was never a country called Palestine
    • Philistine was the Hebrew word for an ancient people with no connection to the Palestinians
    • Syria-Palestina was a Roman province which bore no resemblance to Palestine people present today
    • British Mandatory Palestine was not a country, but an entity that was invented by the international community to help establish a Jewish National Home
  • Jews are the ethnic group that ruled the land for the longest
  • There was never a Palestinian people
    • Palestinian national identity was born in the 20th century
    • The inhabitants of the land had been very diverse and there was no language, history or culture that would tie them together as an ethnicity or a people
Wholly irrelevant. If we had to look at the world and the countries thereof in accordance with your post no one would exist including Jews.

Whether you can accept it or not Palestine has been a state with a Palestinian nationality since the 1920s' and that continues to this day.
 

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Whether you can accept it or not Palestine has been a state with a Palestinian nationality since the 1920s' and that continues to this day.
Oh I thought you said Israel was their homeland in ancient times.

The flag of Palestine (yes I acknowledge it was called Palestine)

 

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Leading up to Israel’s independence in 1948, it was common for the international press to label Jews, not Arabs, living in the mandate as Palestinians. It was not until years after Israeli independence that the Arabs living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip were called Palestinians. In fact, Arabs cannot even correctly pronounce the word Palestine in their native tongue, referring to area rather as“Filastin.”
The word Palestine or Filastin does not appear in the Koran. The term peleshet appears in the Jewish Tanakh no fewer than 250 times.
 

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Oh I thought you said Israel was their homeland in ancient times.

The flag of Palestine (yes I acknowledge it was called Palestine)


nonsense.



That was the flag of mandate Palestine.
 

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nonsense.



That was the flag of mandate Palestine.
Palestine Soccer Team. Sending Out A Few Terrorists to Play Against You in Australia.
Daphne Anson 19/01/2014 9 Comments 6,964 Views


Palestine Soccer Team. Sending Out A Few Terrorists to Play Against You in Australia.
I’ve posted this to my own blog here, but as it concerns Oz I thought readers of JDU may be interested in it. Enjoy!
Streuth! How shall we Zionists, we-so-called hasbarafiosos, ever live this one down? There was a Palestinian soccer team that visited Australia in 1939. More irrefutable evidence that there was indeed a people known as “The Palestinians” well before Yasser Arafat snatched that term for propaganda purposes in the 1960s and ran with it.
To quote the original uploader onto YouTube:
“This video is one of endless evidents [sic] which prove that Palestine was inhibted [sic] by the Palestinaians before the jewish people came from all around the world to occupy this land ,demolish the cities and villages of Palestinians slaughter the people of this land and force them to leave their homes and property.
the result of this match : Palestine 1-0 Australia
this video was taken from the historian Ahmad Mrowat Mroueh Facebook page …”





Not so fast, [REMOVED], and those who have been misled along with you. Have a listen to what the Aussie commentator says at 34 seconds and you’ll learn that the “Palestinians” aren’t Arabs, as you assume, but Jews:
“Wham! Saved! But then the Jews were always a saving race.”
But don’t just take the commentator’s word for it.
(Melbourne) Argus, 27 June 1939
Here’s some background on the team (read the entire thing here, it’s quite fascinating):

“…. Ironically it was Germany’s annexation of Austria in 1938 that put a Palestine tour of Australia back on the agenda.
The Australian Association had been in correspondence with Austrian club, Rapid, and the Indian National team about touring Australia. In June they rejected a proposal to bring out a Palestine team despite the Melbourne Jewish community backing the tour with £1000 and providing accommodation.
However when Rapid applied to the German Football Association for permission to tour it was rejected.
With little hope of any European side touring Australia, the Association eventually changed it’s previous stance and in early 1939, agreed for Palestine to tour, as long as the financial backing was guaranteed.
Before leaving for Australia, the touring party laid a wreath on the Australian War Memorial, opposite the entrance gates of the British War Cemetery, at Mount Scopus, Jerusalem in memory of fallen Australian soldiers.
The players, who were mostly from the powerful Maccabi Tel-Aviv club side with a few players from other teams included to create a ‘Palestine’ banner under which to play. The Grand Mufti had a message for Australia, when placing this ad
Grand Mufti message
in a newspaper upon the arrival of the tourists in Western Australia.
The visitors were officially welcomed to Australia by the chairman of the board of control of the West Australian Soccer Football Association (Mr.F. Smith) and members of the board. Following the official reception, the Palestine players had their first practice run since leaving Ceylon at the Stephen street Reserve, after which they were brought to Perth and entertained at a luncheon tendered by the board of management of the Perth Hebrew Congregation. They then sailed for Melbourne in the evening….”

Also this:
Sydney Morning Herald, 1 July 1939
“An interesting soccer tour took place during this time of increased tension. In 1939 The Maccabi-Palestine team arrived in Australia for 5 test matches. Overall media response was very negative with suggestions that future tours should only be accepted from members of the Empire. The Sydney Morning Herald of 7th August 1939 described play as ‘wretched’ and stated that it ‘caused resentment among paying spectators’. This assessment is bemusing as although the tourists lost the test series they won 11 and drew 3 of their 19 matches – including big wins over Queensland, Victoria, Melbourne, South Australia and Western Australia.
Despite the negativity Avrah[a]m Reznik, Avrah[a]m Beit HaLevi and Menaham Mirmvotich remained in Australia. According to records at the Australian War Memorial two were killed in action serving Australia:
Menaham Mirvotich (2/11th Battalion – Infantry) died 12 May 1945 in New Guinea
Abraham Bezalel Beth-Helevy [Anglicised] (2/12th Battalion – Infantry) died 21 January 1944.”


Sorry to disappoint you and your cohorts, [REMOVED. But that’s the situation as it was, and not as the Israel-delegitimising movement wishes it had been.
 
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