The Ghislaine Maxwell Trial Thread

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There is no point. You need some serious hardware to stay off the grid and remain private and it is not affordable but to a rare few. Every keystroke we make is saved, every purchase made, every place we visit with a phone in tow etc. VPN's are compromised. Most of us opted into it all for you must to surf the web. The data collected is for control and fed to algorithms with quantum computing for infinite space. There is no real privacy left in today's world.
Thanks for the tip. I always kind of wondered if I was truly secure on proton because it seemed to good to be true especially for free.
 

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You have to pay for their upgrade to be better protected. It is still a good email system but not as secure as they wish it were. The free version means when you click a link it takes you to your browser and does not open there so the encryption no longer works. Most people have nothing to hide but are just pissed they have no privacy and data is collected on them. Once you are on your browser even if it is duck duck go, google likely has a view on it die to places you have searched.
 
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This is not your f'n thread to discuss your insane politics. This is what I mean... it is pathetic. This is why people are leaving this forum.

The victim in this video told the FBI Epstein and Les Wexler held her hostage. Also says Wexner was a major funder of Iraq war and that Epstein had access to cameras in Victoria's Secret (Wexler owned), The LImited and Abercrombie Fitch dressing rooms. I highly recommend listening to this in the backdrop for it is interesting.
To say the least, it's never a dull interview when listening to Maria! I liked how she made the distinction between Jews and the Kharizan Mafia as I listed here also, which is exactly what is controlling most of the US and doing what it can to control the world with the covid psy-op (Synagogue of Satan, six of one in my books). Maria explained that she'll NEVER take a shot because not only what is happening now is reminding her of what she went through with Epstein (not being able to leave, not getting any help from authorities, etc.). She said many of the people funding the psy-op were associates of his, including many in the WEF, she said they're all pedos and are full of "bad energy". Having gone through bouts of cancer, she said that took ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for a previous ailment she had (can't recall what it was) and as soon as she stopped taking it, her cancer reappeared! Maria asked her doctors if they knew both of those drugs cure cancer, and they told her yes they do. Imagine all the lives that could be saved if the drugs weren't made so hard to obtain for cancer and covid?

She also says that Lex Wexner is incredibly evil. An understatement but she said the man is sinister and too powerful for anyone to touch him. Apparently, someone she knows did some sleuthing and found out he funded the Iraq war, another psy-op. Also, what's interesting is she said even if Ghislaine is put into prison, Maria says there are many who won't be. In fact, she thinks that Sarah Kellen is just as bad, if not, worse and should be in prison but doesn't think anything will happen to her and Epstein's other consorts. And while it's only a gut feeling, Maria believes that Epstein's cellmate actually killed him (seen at 1:22:09 in the video). She claims there'd be no other reason for someone like that to be in his cell.

One thing about Maria is that despite what she has endured from Ghislaine and Jeffrey, she seems to have a genuine good nature about her, and as the interview was winding down, they were discussing the covid psy-op, she laughed and stated, "Never has the flu been made so famous", stating the obvious but as many have eventually realized, they've (Kharizan mafia) basically weaponized the flu.
 
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Well I still don't believe Epstein is dead. I've seen no proof that Maxwell was ever jailed or even attending this trial. But my gut feeling is that the unvaccinated will all be sitting in concentration camps before Ghislaine does 10 minutes behind bars. Epstein had a doomsday plan in case anything went wrong. This is just a show to let people think something is being done. Epstein had plastic surgery and is sitting somewhere in TEL Aviv in luxury surrounded by beautiful women and snorting the highest quality Peruvian flake. Prove me wrong. Oh let's not forget Comey's daughter is the prosecutor. I have a lot of faith in her. Just like I have a lot of faith the FBI is still wondering what to do with Hunter's laptop. It wouldn't surprise me if Hunter is in the oval office right this minute with an eightball of big rocks. Yeah things are that bad.
 
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Well I still don't believe Epstein is dead. I've seen no proof that Maxwell was ever jailed or even attending this trial. But my gut feeling is that the unvaccinated will all be sitting in concentration camps before Ghislaine does 10 minutes behind bars. Epstein had a doomsday plan in case anything went wrong. This is just a show to let people think something is being done. Epstein had plastic surgery and is sitting somewhere in TEL Aviv in luxury surrounded by beautiful women and snorting the highest quality Peruvian flake. Prove me wrong. Oh let's not forget Comey's daughter is the prosecutor. I have a lot of faith in her. Just like I have a lot of faith the FBI is still wondering what to do with Hunter's laptop. It wouldn't surprise me if Hunter is in the oval office right this minute with an eightball of big rocks. Yeah things are that bad.
It's also possible that Epstein was "suicided..."
 

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Don't even think about coming in this thread after you cheerleaded the Colonel and fueled discourse and his bullshit.
 

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Don't even think about coming in this thread after you cheerleaded the Colonel and fueled discourse and his bullshit.
Yes sir!

Will she got off or not?
What do you think?
Does she still have strings to pull or is she the sacrifice?
 

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Go back to your great offering and thread - https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/a-message-from-the-colonel.9620/#post-464753 Egging him admittedly says it all about your character or lack thereof. Oh, you just removed that post too.
No, it is here.
Same as it always was.

Are you trying to derail this thread?

Yes sir!

Will she got off or not?
What do you think?
Does she still have strings to pull or is she the sacrifice?
What do you think (back on topic) will she get off?
 

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Please ignore Cintra, who is a sock and trouble-making troll. You, nor anyone else who helped shut down members' discussion can KMA and are not welcome here. Go to your own thread. Leave the adults alone, Chassidy.

FBI Epstein freedom of information search.

https://vault.fbi.gov/search?SearchableText=Jeffrey+Epstein
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I think you are trying to shut down my discussion, because you don't like my friends.

I would still like to know wether people think she still has the clout to get off, or wether she will go down.

I think that is a valid question.
She has (or had) a lot of powerful friends.
Does she still?
 

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This is OUR discussion not my as in yours. Get a life or just be banned again. We know you will come back, but that doesn't matter either for it just shows how ridiculously sad you are.

Special Agent Kelly Mcguire verified multiple exhibits of evidence found in Epstein’s safe to conclude court proceedings on Monday. Included in these exhibits: a tub full of hard drives, over 20,000 physical and digital photos, diamonds, cash, an Austrian passport listing a different name with a Saudi Arabian address. When FBI seized these hard drives and CDs (storing images), they appeared with corresponding FBI evidence tags already present on them, suggesting FBI and law enforcement officials had already been in possession of, reviewed and returned Epstein’s hard drives.

A Palm beach post article summarizes the specific items found during this 2005 FBI raid here.

Does this provoke further questions, the most troubling of which is what was Jeffrey Epstein’s relationship with domestic and foreign intelligence? This evidence heavily suggests known and intentional participation from Florida State Government and FBI officials in enabling child sex trafficking. It can also be confirmed Epstein “cooperated” after a 2008 FBI child prostitution sting and was released “as long as he maintained his agreement with the state of Florida”.

Day Seven
Day seven proceedings would begin with a short testimony given by an FBI witness (name not provided to the public) who authenticated several photos found during the 2005 Palm Beach raid. The day’s second witness would take the stand, FBI Digital Forensic Examiner Stephen Flatley. Flatley would confirm that a hard drive exhibit presented to him was linked to a computer registered to the organization “GMax”. He would also authenticate an email from Maxwell’s @MindSpring address that had been explaining grievances regarding trashed massage lotion bottles following the raid.

Flatley would continue to authenticate a document showing an advertisement made by GMax that specifically referenced “massage lotion products”. He also authenticated a piece of written material produced by GMax that discussed Jeffrey and Ghislaine. “Jeffrey and Ghislaine really complement each other, they are great partners. They are boyfriend and girlfriend unlike what some may think”. The Defense’s Menninger would begin a short cross-examination, once again grasping at straws by suggesting witness Flatley couldn’t confirm if these images had been changed since he had seen them initially (without provide evidence of alteration). Flatley was dismissed.

The next witness would be called to the stand, being made known to the public under the pseudonym “Carolyn” who explained she had met Epstein after she had left seventh grade, at the age of 14. Carolyn mentioned her mother was an alcoholic. Carolyn continued “I was introduced to Epstein to give him a massage, I said yes.” describing she had been greeted by Maxwell. She would also disclose she was paid $300 by Ghislaine Maxwell after being raped by Epstein, stating she had later received concert tickets, lingerie and a book titled “massage for dummies”.

Carolyn would also remember Maxwell calling to request she travel with her and Epstein overseas and to his island. Carolyn declined telling Maxwell her “mother would never say ok”. Carolyn would also specifically state she mentioned her age to Maxwell as “14”. Carolyn’s testimony would continue to describe her sexual abuse at the hands of Maxwell and Epstein, stating Maxwell abused her before she had given Epstein a massage.

When asked by the prosecution “did you bring friends to Jeffrey Epstein’s house?” Carolyn replied “yes” mentioning she had recruited 3 other minors that were brought to Epstein at the direction of Maxwell. Carolyn continued to disclose that all three children were raped by Maxwell and Epstein, who paid them afterward. Carolyn was asked what she would use this money for, to which she replied “I was buying drugs” as she started to tear up.

Testimony continued with Carolyn explaining she stopped seeing Epstein following a major event in her life, having a baby. She recalled returning to Epstein’s house during her pregnancy (when aged 18 years old) but said she “realized I was too old for him”. Carolyn would outline her history with drug use and a prior theft charge for which she did jail time, also stating that she is “constantly afraid of my children being trafficked.” She was also asked by the prosecution if she had previously “worked for an escort service and had sex with men for money”, to which she answered “sometimes”. Carolyn’s testimony would conclude with her acknowledging that Maxwell took pictures of her while she was raped by Epstein.

A lengthy cross-examination would begin when defense attorney Jeff Pagliuca approached the witness stand to employ the same technique that Maxwell’s defense team has used for each witness (since it’s clear her legal team has no legitimate defense). Pagliuca started by assaulting the accuser’s character asking, “you smoked marijuana and drank alcohol?” when referencing the night of alleged abuse, again an irrelevant line of questioning when the accusation involves to child r*pe.

Pagliuca would continue by leading the witness to answer the question “Virginia Roberts told you could make $300?” to which she responded “no”. Pagliuca rephrased to reference a separate alleged occurrence “Roberts approached you about making the $500, Maxwell was not there, correct?” to which Carolyn responded “yes”. The questioning continued with a dissection of a 2007 FBI statement given by Carolyn that didn’t identify Maxwell and instead identified Maxwell’s assistant Sarah Kellen.

Pagliuca continued with unrelated questions directed to Carolyn repeatedly, the prosecution nor the judge reminded the defense of their obligation. Judge Nathan’s transgressions became particularly evident when the witness herself said “what does this have to do with Ghislaine Maxwell? She fondled me and broke my soul”. This particular instance highlighted the immense failure of the prosecution and Judge Nathan to protect the witness from unrelated badgering. The U.S court system is egregiously failing child sex victims once again.

The prosecution has continually failed to object at relevant moments calling to question their intent and ability to represent their client adequately, as a lack of willingness to further inquiry has also been observed at numerous times throughout the trial.

Jeff Pagliuca stated the last name of the witness aloud for the jury to hear before concluding. This is the third occasion that Maxwell’s defense team has shown such blatant disregard for witness safety. Lawyers that fail to maintain their duty as charged by the judge should be disbarred for such actions since they are directly risking the accuser’s life. Even more troubling was a failure of the prosecution to object and pressure the judge to advocate the punishment of the defense. The discipline received for each incidence was nonexistent and shows a troubling trend noticeable in all U.S public institutions, the incompetence of those charged with ensuring due process (in this case, Judge Nathan).

Day seven concluded with news given to jurors that the prosecution would be resting their case at the end of this week, causing further scrutiny and shock from journalists in overflow rooms. How is it possible that a prosecution which initially needed five weeks to argue their case has now decided to reduce it? From public view, nothing has changed but questions arise as to what conversations or warnings have been given out of public view (as Epstein and Maxwell are tied to multiple intelligence agencies and used blackmail to force compliance from world leaders to shape public policy, as will be explained in future coverage by Free Press Report).

Throughout Epstein and Maxwell’s history, a trend of cover ups and rug sweeps can be observed. It is this writer’s opinion that the prosecution has shown no intent to seek full justice, nor protect their clients so far.
 
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This is OUR discussion not my as in yours, Chassidy. Get a life or just be banned again. We know you will come back, but that doesn't matter either for it just shows how ridiculously sad you are.
Ok
Your kind of getting really worked up about this.
You should sit down and try to understand what has triggered you.
Try to calm down a bit.

You have mistaken me for a lot of other people and are focussing all your feelings about them onto me.
Its a bit pointless (unless its cathartic for you) as I am only Cintra, and while the colonel (who I met here) has become a friend off forum, I never really met Chassidy.

I think you need to report your suspicions to VC.
Clear the air.
He has all the ip connection data, and I am sure he has had cause to examine my credentials in the past, and decide wether to let me post.

On the whole I try to get on with other posters, it's interesting here quite often.
I am happy to go back to getting on with you, if you like.
Once you've got over this weird stuff.
 

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What don't you get? You have admitted you are here for kicks and never really offer much other than putting yourself in the middle of fires. You egged the Colonel on to where it completely shut down discussion here for three days and then you post a freaking warning from him. You are not here in good spirit. The mere fact you find him friend material is telling as well for he is a basket case. You then go on to admit you egged it on thinking it was funny. It should be crystal clear that you are a troll going down the same path as he did, Bubba etc. You throw your arms up like a victim and hang onto petty lies while intentionally trolling. You are getting off on this as I type, wanting more of it, sponging the negativity like some sicko. You are not welcome in this thread I created for members who are honest, real and have some form of togetherness in exposing things in a rational way.

Lastly, you have the audacity to say you try and get along with posters after you fueled the flames of total discourse with TMT or whatever that scum bucket mentally ill prick as he attacked multiple threads and members. You want to get along> Stay out of threads created by others. Do not fuel the worst of the worst mentally ill poster from the past as if it is funny. Nothing was funny about this forum the past few days. Nothing.
 
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